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VIDEO: Are crime maps welcome in your area?
2:02pm Friday 15th August 2008
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CRIME maps showing where and how often offences are committed could be seen on the internet from next month.
The Met is currently testing electronic crime mapping software and plans to launch the system in September, after a technical review.
Interactive maps will sit alongside monthly crime statistics published on the Met police website and will provide details of the number, rate and geographical location of defined crime types on a ward, borough and pan-London basis.
A test map can be viewed online at maps.met.police.uk.
By clicking on a borough, you can see the figures for burglary, robbery and vehicle crime and comparison figures from previous years.
According to the map the crime rate in the Bromley, Lewisham and Greenwich boroughs is average for London.
And Bexley is below average.
Crime maps have been used in the US - notably in Chicago, New York and Los Angeles - where police departments show incidents at a house-to-house level.
News Shopper went to Burnt Ash Hill in Lee - the scene of the murder of teenager Jimmy Mizen on May 10 - to find out what people think about crime maps.
Watch the video to hear their views.
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Posh nosh, State side. says...
4:05pm Fri 15 Aug 08
Good.
At least the unsightly will move over to another neighbourhood and leave us alone.
At least the unsightly will move over to another neighbourhood and leave us alone.
cassie, bromley says...
9:38pm Fri 15 Aug 08
perhaps we should have maps showing 'crime related incidents' too
Diane, Bromley says...
11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08
cassie wrote:Shame that they don't warn about what area boring people live in, so we can steer well clear. I bet you're a real blast at parties.
perhaps we should have maps showing \'crime related incidents\' too
Excalibur, Bromley says...
11:29pm Fri 15 Aug 08
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We'd know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............
....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime' in a particular area.
This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You'd be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc!
What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime' in a particular area.
This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You'd be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc!
What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
Ferrett, Bickley says...
11:31pm Fri 15 Aug 08
How about Judge - Top Trumps?
For each Judge they could have categories such as;
Age
Years in the Job
Salary
Cost to Bribe
Number of community service hours sentenced
Time spent at Lunch
Number of Perversions
Death Sentences Awarded
and
(in)Sanity Level
The kids could play against each other and learn which judges to avoid at the same time.
For each Judge they could have categories such as;
Age
Years in the Job
Salary
Cost to Bribe
Number of community service hours sentenced
Time spent at Lunch
Number of Perversions
Death Sentences Awarded
and
(in)Sanity Level
The kids could play against each other and learn which judges to avoid at the same time.
Gypo, says...
11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08
Gypo wrote:I agree about Cassie, but Sisyphus is quite amusing.
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
Matt, Bromley says...
2:40pm Sat 16 Aug 08
I think that we should be focusing on what will improve the effectiveness of the police - the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner, so using it is nothing new to them and will unlikely be of any benefit in reducing crime. We will end up stigmatising areas and the only people to really benefit will be the reorters on newspapers who will be able to whip up emotions and create a mob mentality - and possibly the crafty Estate Agents who will raise prices in an area if it has below average crime.
I think the real thing we need to do is make the judiciary more open and accountable - the Police can target a high crime area time and again, nicking the criminals, only for the courts to fail to hand down any effective deterrent.
I think the real thing we need to do is make the judiciary more open and accountable - the Police can target a high crime area time and again, nicking the criminals, only for the courts to fail to hand down any effective deterrent.
Edward, Bromley says...
3:53pm Sat 16 Aug 08
What a waste of money, money that could be spent on policing. As has already been said, the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner. Use the money elsewhere in policing. Without any computer data or police expertese I can quite easily map the crime areas - Lewisham, Croydon, Southwark........
cassie, bromley says...
2:54am Sun 17 Aug 08
Diane, Bromley on 11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08
aw thanks and i'd similarly bet your ad hom attacks are considered the height of intelligence and wit to bullies in school playgrounds :)
aw thanks and i'd similarly bet your ad hom attacks are considered the height of intelligence and wit to bullies in school playgrounds :)
cassie, bromley says...
2:59am Sun 17 Aug 08
Gypo on 11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08
ooh more ad hom attacks, i'm sure bullies everywhere really look up to you and diane
ooh more ad hom attacks, i'm sure bullies everywhere really look up to you and diane
cassie, bromley says...
3:04am Sun 17 Aug 08
Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08
and yet another ad hom attack....wonder if gypo, diane and seven are in the same gang
and yet another ad hom attack....wonder if gypo, diane and seven are in the same gang
Gypo, says...
1:24pm Sun 17 Aug 08
No gang 'cassie'. Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
You really are a bore. Not bullying, not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
You really are a bore. Not bullying, not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
4:16pm Sun 17 Aug 08
I have to agree, Gypo. Cassie is incredibly tedious and the type you'd find in the corner of a room at a party.
Eddie, Beckenham says...
7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08
and yet another ad hom attack....Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely.
cassie, bromley says...
3:50am Tue 19 Aug 08
No gang 'cassie'
aw never mind, same mentality
Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
did it ever cross your mind that people really do find bullying as unacceptable in adults as they do in children
of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners
You really are a bore
you really are a bully
Not bullying
actually your behaviour is well-recognised as bullying
not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
the fact you obviously don't like is that your behaviour is no different to that of bullies in a school playground
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
oh name-calling - that's what bullies do, you've just absolutely proved i'm right :)
aw never mind, same mentality
Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
did it ever cross your mind that people really do find bullying as unacceptable in adults as they do in children
of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners
You really are a bore
you really are a bully
Not bullying
actually your behaviour is well-recognised as bullying
not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
the fact you obviously don't like is that your behaviour is no different to that of bullies in a school playground
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
oh name-calling - that's what bullies do, you've just absolutely proved i'm right :)
cassie, bromley says...
3:56am Tue 19 Aug 08
I have to agree, Gypo.
(want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
(want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
cassie, bromley says...
4:07am Tue 19 Aug 08
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?
lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring
Sorry, cassie
no need to be, i find human nature very interesting
I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort!
said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef
Harsh, maybe. True, definitely
due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring
Sorry, cassie
no need to be, i find human nature very interesting
I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort!
said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef
Harsh, maybe. True, definitely
due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Sweary Stan, Lee says...
4:42am Tue 19 Aug 08
cassie wrote:Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Chris, Penge says...
7:02am Tue 19 Aug 08
cassie wrote:You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders! However, merely calling everyone who disagrees with you or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring is stretching credibility a bit.
I have to agree, Gypo. (want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
Sussed, Bromley says...
8:55am Tue 19 Aug 08
Sweary Stan wrote:Two of a kind -or the same person?
cassie wrote: Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitelySwaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
Gypo, says...
10:24pm Tue 19 Aug 08
"of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners "
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me.
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post, and whenever you dont like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children. How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
Perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not.
the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners "
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me.
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post, and whenever you dont like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children. How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
Perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not.
cassie, bromley says...
10:58pm Tue 19 Aug 08
You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders!
aw bless, a truly pitiful attempt at the old 'blame the victim' tactic so loved by bullies
merely calling everyone who disagrees with you
the simple point which eludes you with such astonishing success is the difference between disagreeing with someone's viewpoint on an issue and mindless ad hom attacks
or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring
oh dear, another very simple point that eludes you, ie whether anyone is or isn't boring is of course entirely subjective...
so you see, or rather if only you could see, while you must presumably think you are incredibly interesting others find you incredibly boring, not to mention incredibly stupid and lacking in the most basic manners :)
however, if we all spent our time telling everyone we thought was boring / stupid / ignorant that they are boring / stupid / ignorant every comment board would simply be full of posts saying 'your boring / stupid / ignorant'...
while i can see that you might find that most interesting and stimulating, to the majority of people over the age of five it would be mindnumbingly boring
aw bless, a truly pitiful attempt at the old 'blame the victim' tactic so loved by bullies
merely calling everyone who disagrees with you
the simple point which eludes you with such astonishing success is the difference between disagreeing with someone's viewpoint on an issue and mindless ad hom attacks
or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring
oh dear, another very simple point that eludes you, ie whether anyone is or isn't boring is of course entirely subjective...
so you see, or rather if only you could see, while you must presumably think you are incredibly interesting others find you incredibly boring, not to mention incredibly stupid and lacking in the most basic manners :)
however, if we all spent our time telling everyone we thought was boring / stupid / ignorant that they are boring / stupid / ignorant every comment board would simply be full of posts saying 'your boring / stupid / ignorant'...
while i can see that you might find that most interesting and stimulating, to the majority of people over the age of five it would be mindnumbingly boring
Eddie, Beckenham says...
11:29pm Tue 19 Aug 08
Cassie,
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says - you could not be more wrong.
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
And perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says - you could not be more wrong.
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
And perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
cassie, bromley says...
11:54pm Tue 19 Aug 08
Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me
from your posts obviously i'm not though
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post
oh how very dare you, you've gone waaay too far now - sis is not my 'amigo', sis is a self-confessed supremacist
and whenever you dont like a post
it isn't a matter of 'not liking' posts it is a matter of ojecting to attempts to bully
you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card.
er no...you must be confusing me with another poster
When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children
er no again...you've just made that up in your head, you seem to have forgetten that anyone can go to the top of this board, read through the comments and see that i merely commented on the story and was then mindlessly personally insulted
How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
sorry don't understand that, is it gang-slang?
Perhaps you should practise what you preach
i do...well i don't practise but i do practice
you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not
no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)
from your posts obviously i'm not though
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post
oh how very dare you, you've gone waaay too far now - sis is not my 'amigo', sis is a self-confessed supremacist
and whenever you dont like a post
it isn't a matter of 'not liking' posts it is a matter of ojecting to attempts to bully
you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card.
er no...you must be confusing me with another poster
When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children
er no again...you've just made that up in your head, you seem to have forgetten that anyone can go to the top of this board, read through the comments and see that i merely commented on the story and was then mindlessly personally insulted
How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
sorry don't understand that, is it gang-slang?
Perhaps you should practise what you preach
i do...well i don't practise but i do practice
you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not
no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)
Gypo, says...
12:06am Wed 20 Aug 08
"no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)"
Two wrongs don't make a right. Or do they in your twisted mind.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This prac·tise Audio Help (prâk'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
v. & n. Chiefly British
Variant of practice.
A British variant, much like you I expect. :)
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore. At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause. Bored on night shift are you ?
Two wrongs don't make a right. Or do they in your twisted mind.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This prac·tise Audio Help (prâk'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
v. & n. Chiefly British
Variant of practice.
A British variant, much like you I expect. :)
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore. At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause. Bored on night shift are you ?
cassie, bromley says...
12:56am Wed 20 Aug 08
Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says
you've reminded me of another reason for bullying - join in because scared of becoming a target of the bullies
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card
that simply isn't true though, you've just made it up - or rather 'gypo' made it up and you are just mindlessly parroting it
When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
lol, no i don't, although of course feel free to give an example to support your claim...if you actually can
And perhaps you should practise what you preach,
hmmmm... your post is so similar to gypo's i thought there was an echo in here and then exactly the same spelling error as 'gypo'...spookily uncanny or someone with very low-self-esteem resorting to posting comments agreeing with themself under a different name :)
you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
no because that was said in response to you saying first "Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely."...
i'll try to explain for you the significance of the order of the posts - you posted to me first -
Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08...
you chose to join in with the personal attacks on me, you chose to be rude and insulting to me, even though i hadn't said anything to you or about you...
so i replied - cassie, bromley on 4:07am today - giving back what you had chosen to dish out...which i'm sure you'd agree is only fair :)
you've reminded me of another reason for bullying - join in because scared of becoming a target of the bullies
I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card
that simply isn't true though, you've just made it up - or rather 'gypo' made it up and you are just mindlessly parroting it
When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.
lol, no i don't, although of course feel free to give an example to support your claim...if you actually can
And perhaps you should practise what you preach,
hmmmm... your post is so similar to gypo's i thought there was an echo in here and then exactly the same spelling error as 'gypo'...spookily uncanny or someone with very low-self-esteem resorting to posting comments agreeing with themself under a different name :)
you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?
no because that was said in response to you saying first "Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely."...
i'll try to explain for you the significance of the order of the posts - you posted to me first -
Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08...
you chose to join in with the personal attacks on me, you chose to be rude and insulting to me, even though i hadn't said anything to you or about you...
so i replied - cassie, bromley on 4:07am today - giving back what you had chosen to dish out...which i'm sure you'd agree is only fair :)
Gypo, says...
1:17am Wed 20 Aug 08
Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep.
good night, what is it you say....
"aw bless"
Feel free to carry on posting though, as I'm sure you will.
good night, what is it you say....
"aw bless"
Feel free to carry on posting though, as I'm sure you will.
cassie, bromley says...
2:39am Wed 20 Aug 08
Two wrongs don't make a right.
oh you are a pacifist, how curious given your bullyboy behaviour...for those who are not pacifists two wrongs can and very often do make a right, for example self-defence, standing up to bullies, going to war to stop despots etc
Or do they in your twisted mind.
lol - the 'twisted mind' is obviously in the person who did the first wrong, in the person who started it...and that was you dear...
why, anyone would think you are a complete hypocrite who likes dishing it out but can't take it back...
American Heritage Dictionary...
an american pacifist, even more interesting...anyway
, oxford english dictionary - 'practice...usage it should be noted that practice is the spelling for the noun...'
so,- being british - as i said to you i don't practise what i preach i practice what i preach
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore
oh well if simon 'i'm not putting up with what i insist eveyone else puts up with' bull said it that absolutely proves it's true doesn't it - well it does to the sycophants :)
At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause.
you mean like the bullies mess up other boards when the story is about someone trying to do good, but - as they don't have simon's power to remove posts - unlike him they just have to put up with it?
Bored on night shift are you ?
feeling so inadequate you feel the need to try to bully others are you?
oh you are a pacifist, how curious given your bullyboy behaviour...for those who are not pacifists two wrongs can and very often do make a right, for example self-defence, standing up to bullies, going to war to stop despots etc
Or do they in your twisted mind.
lol - the 'twisted mind' is obviously in the person who did the first wrong, in the person who started it...and that was you dear...
why, anyone would think you are a complete hypocrite who likes dishing it out but can't take it back...
American Heritage Dictionary...
an american pacifist, even more interesting...anyway
, oxford english dictionary - 'practice...usage it should be noted that practice is the spelling for the noun...'
so,- being british - as i said to you i don't practise what i preach i practice what i preach
Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore
oh well if simon 'i'm not putting up with what i insist eveyone else puts up with' bull said it that absolutely proves it's true doesn't it - well it does to the sycophants :)
At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause.
you mean like the bullies mess up other boards when the story is about someone trying to do good, but - as they don't have simon's power to remove posts - unlike him they just have to put up with it?
Bored on night shift are you ?
feeling so inadequate you feel the need to try to bully others are you?
cassie, bromley says...
2:48am Wed 20 Aug 08
Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep. good night, what is it you say...."aw bless"
night gypo / eddie, hope overnight you realise your bullying gets you nowhere (and makes for incredibly boring boards) and so you resolve to act like an civilised adult in future
night gypo / eddie, hope overnight you realise your bullying gets you nowhere (and makes for incredibly boring boards) and so you resolve to act like an civilised adult in future
Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
1:47pm Wed 20 Aug 08
I couldnt Agree with you more JayJay. they are trying to make improvments & move a step forward but fear like yourself that they are simply going to be taking 2 steps back if they were to implement this Idea & acutally launch it in September, bad idea, they need to go back to the drawing board & think of something else!
Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
2:20pm Wed 20 Aug 08
Excalibur wrote:Its the best & most sensible idea ive read in a long time! you have my Vote!
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We\'d know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............ ....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime\' in a particular area. This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You\'d be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc! What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
cassie, bromley says...
1:14am Thu 21 Aug 08
That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are
not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
Gypo, says...
1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring.
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring.
Excalibur, Bromley says...
10:17am Thu 21 Aug 08
cassie wrote:I hear where you're coming from, but how many times do the judges and magistrates stick to these? We read time and again about the guidelines being ignored. Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time.
That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
11:21am Thu 21 Aug 08
Cassie Answer me this Question... if magistrates/judges as it were" we faced with a case where a drink driver was behind the wheel of a car & knocked over a young child & killed them out right! Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?
There are judges out there that will throw the book at the person responsible! & Judges who just decide to give the person responsible for that crime a slap on the wrist & ill meet ya in the pub for a pint later to say thanks for the light sentence! **** to the guidelines! I say only employ the Judges who have the balls to throw the book at the Criminals of our Society! Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
There are judges out there that will throw the book at the person responsible! & Judges who just decide to give the person responsible for that crime a slap on the wrist & ill meet ya in the pub for a pint later to say thanks for the light sentence! **** to the guidelines! I say only employ the Judges who have the balls to throw the book at the Criminals of our Society! Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
cassie, bromley says...
1:04am Fri 22 Aug 08
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring .
while bullying is soooo very interesting and soooo very exciting isn't it, well to big and clever and really really hard bullies like you, gosh bet all your gang-mates really look up to you :)
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring .
while bullying is soooo very interesting and soooo very exciting isn't it, well to big and clever and really really hard bullies like you, gosh bet all your gang-mates really look up to you :)
cassie, bromley says...
1:23am Fri 22 Aug 08
Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time
not too sure about mandatory same-for-every-case, i feel that as a principle of justice each case should be treated individually - perhaps we need appropriate minimums
i'd agree that far too much leniency is shown to repeat, and violent, offenders
really the whole sentencing and prison regimes need a complete overhaul
not too sure about mandatory same-for-every-case, i feel that as a principle of justice each case should be treated individually - perhaps we need appropriate minimums
i'd agree that far too much leniency is shown to repeat, and violent, offenders
really the whole sentencing and prison regimes need a complete overhaul
cassie, bromley says...
1:58am Fri 22 Aug 08
...Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?...
no but there are many factors which have to be, or should be, taken into account, eg how much over the legal limit, culpability etc
i see on the sentencing guidelines council website they've just issued their definitive guidelines re causing death by driving, it includes drink-driving, careless driving etc, effective 4 august
i've had a v v quick look, haven't read it properly but there are lots of ins and outs mags/judges are supposed to consider when working out the sentence, the link to those new guidelines is on this page
www.sentencing-guide
lines.gov.uk/
Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
yes! the rank incompetence of this government is shocking and obviously dangerous for society, why they are not being held to account for this i don't know
no but there are many factors which have to be, or should be, taken into account, eg how much over the legal limit, culpability etc
i see on the sentencing guidelines council website they've just issued their definitive guidelines re causing death by driving, it includes drink-driving, careless driving etc, effective 4 august
i've had a v v quick look, haven't read it properly but there are lots of ins and outs mags/judges are supposed to consider when working out the sentence, the link to those new guidelines is on this page
www.sentencing-guide
lines.gov.uk/
Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!
yes! the rank incompetence of this government is shocking and obviously dangerous for society, why they are not being held to account for this i don't know
Kate, Sidcup says...
7:06pm Fri 22 Aug 08
i see on the sentencing guidelines council websiteGet a life, saddo.
cassie, bromley says...
4:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08
fascinating...your problem obviously stems from deep-seated feelings of inadequacy
Gypo, says...
11:24pm Sun 24 Aug 08
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cassie, bromley says...
3:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08
gypo, thanks because with your every post you prove you are a bully, keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)
Gypo, says...
7:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
cassie you do like having the last word. You are a bore, a bore, a bore. Hows that little Miss Boring. You'r like a spoilt child," boo hoo I'm being bullied". Guess what, no one's listening or cares because you are just that, a BORE.
Gypo, says...
7:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08
"keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)"
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity cassie. Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say ". :)
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity cassie. Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say ". :)
Kate, Sidcup says...
8:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08
Gypo,
You're obviously a psychiatrist - you've sussed boring cassie out perfectly!
You're obviously a psychiatrist - you've sussed boring cassie out perfectly!
cassie, bromley says...
11:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08
cassie you do like having the last word
er...no, i'm replying to your posts...you are the one who wants the last word, you are post first and i reply
You are a bore, a bore, a bore. /italic]
you are a bully, a bully, a bully
Hows that little Miss Boring
lol...it's pathetic but doubtless you think it makes you look really, really big and clever and sooooo hard
You'r like a spoilt child
you are the one behaving like a spoilt child, keeping on and on and on
"boo hoo I'm being bullied"
ha you wish...i'm not though, i'm just giving you back what you are choosing to dish out...which surely you would agree is only fair
you say you think i'm boring, i reply that you are a bully...and that you are still keeping on and on just proves you are
Guess what, no one's listening or cares
hmmmm....except... you obviously are and do!
because you are just that, a BORE
and you are just that, a BULLY :)
er...no, i'm replying to your posts...you are the one who wants the last word, you are post first and i reply
You are a bore, a bore, a bore. /italic]
you are a bully, a bully, a bully
Hows that little Miss Boring
lol...it's pathetic but doubtless you think it makes you look really, really big and clever and sooooo hard
You'r like a spoilt child
you are the one behaving like a spoilt child, keeping on and on and on
"boo hoo I'm being bullied"
ha you wish...i'm not though, i'm just giving you back what you are choosing to dish out...which surely you would agree is only fair
you say you think i'm boring, i reply that you are a bully...and that you are still keeping on and on just proves you are
Guess what, no one's listening or cares
hmmmm....except... you obviously are and do!
because you are just that, a BORE
and you are just that, a BULLY :)
cassie, bromley says...
12:01am Tue 26 Aug 08
Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity
i didn't though, i posted a comment about the story , some then chose to keep making comments to me so i replied
Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say "
as above, i was merely replying to comments made to me, ie it wasn't me keeping on it was those who kept posting to me first...
a simple enough sequence to grasp but i'm not particularly surprised you are having great difficulty understanding it
i didn't though, i posted a comment about the story , some then chose to keep making comments to me so i replied
Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say "
as above, i was merely replying to comments made to me, ie it wasn't me keeping on it was those who kept posting to me first...
a simple enough sequence to grasp but i'm not particularly surprised you are having great difficulty understanding it
cassie, bromley says...
12:06am Tue 26 Aug 08
You're obviously a psychiatrist
you are obviously a bully kate...or should i say gypo / eddie :)
you are obviously a bully kate...or should i say gypo / eddie :)
Gypo, says...
1:20am Tue 26 Aug 08
"Bully" you just love that word cassie. The same old, same old.
Boring, boring, you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores.
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
Boring, boring, you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores.
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
cassie, bromley says...
2:27am Tue 26 Aug 08
"Bully" you just love that word cassie.
"boring" you just love that word gypo
The same old, same old
you've being posting first and i'm merely replying to your 'same old same old'....i see you've still not managed to grasp the simple sequence yet
Boring, boring
bullying, bullying
you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores
you and ya 'pals' kate and eddie etc, i bet you all have yellow belts in being really really big and clever and soooo hard bullies
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
see ya, defo would not want to be ya, doubtless you don't want to be ya either hence the attempts to bully someone else :)
"boring" you just love that word gypo
The same old, same old
you've being posting first and i'm merely replying to your 'same old same old'....i see you've still not managed to grasp the simple sequence yet
Boring, boring
bullying, bullying
you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores
you and ya 'pals' kate and eddie etc, i bet you all have yellow belts in being really really big and clever and soooo hard bullies
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)
see ya, defo would not want to be ya, doubtless you don't want to be ya either hence the attempts to bully someone else :)
Kate, Sidcup says...
8:00am Tue 26 Aug 08
Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie. And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring? Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore. Or in your language btw you're a sad bore :)
Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
10:56am Tue 26 Aug 08
I can feel the Love on this page!
Gypo, says...
8:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Cassie don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does, in fact most of us find you the B word. :)
cassie, bromley says...
11:50pm Tue 26 Aug 08
Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie.
sure some counselling will help you with them
And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring?
why do you find it so hard to understand the meaning of the word 'subjective'
Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore
most people find you a really stupid little bully
Or in your language btw you're a sad bore
in your own language you're a thicko :)
sure some counselling will help you with them
And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring?
why do you find it so hard to understand the meaning of the word 'subjective'
Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore
most people find you a really stupid little bully
Or in your language btw you're a sad bore
in your own language you're a thicko :)
cassie, bromley says...
12:10am Wed 27 Aug 08
Cassie don't take yourself so seriously
i'm not, i'm just replying to your posts
in fact most of us find you the B word.
in fact you show yet again that you are a bully...you just don't realise you are exposing your low self-esteem :)
i'm not, i'm just replying to your posts
in fact most of us find you the B word.
in fact you show yet again that you are a bully...you just don't realise you are exposing your low self-esteem :)
Kate, Sidcup says...
9:00am Wed 27 Aug 08
cassie,
Get some treatment - they may release you one day. I expect you've bored the other inmates to death by now. 'Death by cassie' - you really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy!
Get some treatment - they may release you one day. I expect you've bored the other inmates to death by now. 'Death by cassie' - you really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy!
jayjay, here says...
3:08pm Fri 15 Aug 08