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Tweets of carnage after Sheffield Wednesday v Millwall game made me cringe
4:14pm Tuesday 28th August 2012 in Millwall
MILLWALL columnist MATT LITTLE this week highlights a downside to Twitter after the social networking site was used to spread unfounded rumours of widespread disorder following Millwall’s 3-2 defeat at Hillsborough on Saturday.
I HAVE really had to motivate myself to write this blog this week.
The events of the weekend were so predictable it is boring just thinking about them.
I wasn't able to make it to Hillsborough but I followed events via Twitter and Lions Player, and even though I was 200 odd miles away I could see that last minute sickener a mile off.
It could have all been avoided though.
By most accounts we looked pretty decent before we swapped the slick passing game that saw us see off Peterborough midweek and slice through Wednesday to take a 2-1 lead for unthinking hoof-ball.
This was meat and drink for a club recently used to the rigours of League One and allowed Wednesday to build up a head of steam.
Dave Jones even commented on setting out to stop our passing game.
Well, we did it for him.
It sounded like we went out in the second half to protect, rather than increase, our lead.
I just hope we can learn from this and make sure this match will be remembered as one of those entertaining and open games that sometimes go for you, and sometimes go against you, rather than as a signifier for the rest of the season.
More depressing than the last minute loss though was the even more predictable ramblings of the home fans.
Fallen Yorkshire giants really should come with a health warning along the lines of 'Be prepared to be bored to death'.
Talking to Leeds and Wednesday fans is like getting stuck on a table with the office bores at a wedding - you have to nod and smile at every utterance which confirms how brilliant they are.
However, we must be even worse wedding guests because rather than nod and smile, we knock back the booze all night and eventually end up laying one on them in the car park.
If you read Twitter in the aftermath of the game, you'd have thought the arrival of 1,300 Millwall fans is the most exciting thing to have happened in Sheffield since the premiere of The Full Monty.
Although to be fair, having lived in Sheffield for two years I can see how it might be in the top five events of the last decade at least.
I'll always remember telling my parents I was moving to Yorkshire, my mum couldn't believe I was actually going to live among northern people.
To her credit she did visit though, although her summary was that it was a “bit depressing”.
Anyway, by the end of the night Twitter had turned a smashed tram door into an epic tale of Viking-esque destruction.
Not that I want to trivialise vandalism, but the medieval lynch mob mentality which exists on the internet is just as ugly and destructive.
According to these roving reporters, Millwall fans had pushed a police horse on top of two children, attacked a teenager who, depending on the righteous verve of the Tweeter, veered from being pregnant to blind or/and deaf.
We also attacked an old man on a mobility scooter, or in some reports a disabled boy, later changed to a girl.
It wasn't confirmed whether they were carrying a box of kittens to their nan's hospital bed or not.
Basically, we were scum and it was a shame we were still around to cast a shadow on the otherwise beautiful game.
Which is odd, well, for me anyway, having lived down the road from Bramall Lane and just off of the notorious London Road.
Odd because I'd never seen so much football related violence in my life as I did when I was living in Sheffield.
And I've been going to Millwall since the late 1980s.
In fact, one of the very rare occasions I've seen fighting on the pitch was at Hillsborough a few years back when home fans, upset at being relegated, gave a few celebrating Palace fans a slap live on the BBC.
So if the righteous of Twitter want us 'kicked out of the league' then I imagine they'd want Wednesday fans hung, drawn and quartered for that.
And if our minor excursion caused such disdain among the natives, then the Sheffield derby must have really calmed down because the last time I was in the city for that, my mates and I were locked in a pub in the city centre for over an hour while the police tried to separate warring factions.
This was before the invention of Twitter in the early 2000s though, so there was no platform for us to get into a hysterical state of public outrage, we just got quite drunk.
Sheffield pubs are excellent.
Oh well, as I say, it was all very predictable.
Although one thing I certainly wouldn't have predicted was for the country's least congenial force, the South Yorkshire Police, to go to the trouble of issuing a Tweet to clear our name of horse killing, shop window smashing and wheelchair bashing.
I guess miracles, like last minute defeats, do sometimes happen.
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Comments(21)
owlfan
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4:39pm Tue 28 Aug 12
geesheffield
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5:20pm Tue 28 Aug 12
Being a Millwall fan you have got no right to direct accusations of violence at Sheffield Wednesday fans or any other fans for that matter, your club’s disgraceful past revokes you of that privilege.
Millwall coming to play at Hillsborough is of no interest what so ever to 99.99% of Sheffield Wednesday fans, it’s just another game, and one that we expected to win. After all… Millwall are famous for what apart from the appalling reputation of their fans?
This weekend 3 trams were damaged by Millwall fans, video evidence has been passed to the police to investigate. This never seems to happen when any other of the football league team visits Sheffield.
Do I sense sour grapes in your article?
AntBrooking
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5:28pm Tue 28 Aug 12
With the exception of Steel City these comments simply back up what you're saying mate!
And as for the boring northern slurs about the Millwall fans' past, its just as boring as your clubs glory days.... a very very long time ago nobody gives a toss!! See you at the Den!!
renard83
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6:11pm Tue 28 Aug 12
That said, every team has its own idiots who like fighting more than football.
Millwall were decent - first goal was very classy - after we fell asleep mid-way through the first half, but we were easily the better side and should have won more easily. See you at the Den for another three points!
owls25
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9:58pm Tue 28 Aug 12
JamesDH
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12:43am Wed 29 Aug 12
This article is really poor indeed. Matt - you obviously do not have any friends or family outside your own geographical circumference of South East London. To be so negative towards Sheffield and Sheffielders is poor indeed and simply shows sour grapes. It's a shame. Opnions vary about the game of course, but you can't deny Wednesday were good value for the win. But I'm sure Millwall will be better come the game at the Den as they did show some nice touches at times. But must say, very poor attitude indeed.
owlster
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1:17am Wed 29 Aug 12
interesting article, you post about twitter and social media being responsible for allowing people to spread unfounded rumours.
Can you explain why if you have such strong feelings on the matter that you spent the whole weekend posting sick and libelous accusations about dave jones on a Sheffield Wednesday message board?
PaulErith
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9:13am Wed 29 Aug 12
the wall
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9:50am Wed 29 Aug 12
PaulErith wrote:Paula is a Charlton Athletic fanboi. Lets look at how Charlton fans behave. A group of Charlton Athletic supporters singing racist songs on a train following their FA Cup tie at Fulham on 7 January 2012. How about the fighting with palace fans. So wind your neck in.
Millwall have made their own reputation, and now I'm afraid they have to live with it. Trouble never seems to be too far away from the club. I know several Millwall 'fans' in my local, and the main reason they 'support' them is because they like causing trouble and getting into fights. They've openly admitted this. It seems that the club attracts these types.
cookster
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9:53am Wed 29 Aug 12
I stopped reading at that point. What a waste of the internet.
the wall
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10:42am Wed 29 Aug 12
Horrified parents were forced to shield their children as they fled a train while a mob of football hooligans punched, kicked and stamped on a group of rival fans on board.
The yobs were savagely attacking rival football fans in what a judge called the worst case of mob violence he's seen have been jailed.
The drunken group of Sheffield Wednesday supporters were caught on CCTV attacking a group of Leeds United fans returning from a day at the races, causing pandemonium on the York to Manchester TransPennine Service.
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PaulErith
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12:20pm Wed 29 Aug 12
the wall wrote:lol! "The wally" is touchy today!
PaulErith wrote: Millwall have made their own reputation, and now I'm afraid they have to live with it. Trouble never seems to be too far away from the club. I know several Millwall 'fans' in my local, and the main reason they 'support' them is because they like causing trouble and getting into fights. They've openly admitted this. It seems that the club attracts these types.Paula is a Charlton Athletic fanboi. Lets look at how Charlton fans behave. A group of Charlton Athletic supporters singing racist songs on a train following their FA Cup tie at Fulham on 7 January 2012. How about the fighting with palace fans. So wind your neck in.
For just about every team, you could find issolated incidents such as those mentioned. Obviously, I think those incidents are terrible, and rightly a lot of the culprits were prosecuted and banned from Charlton for life.
However, you can't dispute that if you were to do a google search of violence involving Millwall fans, you are likely to come up with many more stories over the years than if you did the same for other clubs. And as I say, my personal experience is of a group of Millwall fans that drunk in my local who didn't seem to hide the fact that they go away to away grounds for fights. Scum!
The club has and will always have a terrible reputation.
PaulErith
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12:58pm Wed 29 Aug 12
Without a doubt, the worst set of away supporters I've experienced in 20 years as a season ticket holder. Loads of them had got into the home end to left of me. They were aggressive and vile, and eventually most got kicked out by the police...not before they'd headbutted and punched an official.
Then there was the game a few years back when some Millwall scum climbed up into the director's box and threatened Richard Murray. Again, I don't remember any other fans doing that.
The club is an absolute disgrace.
the wall
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1:21pm Wed 29 Aug 12
PaulErith wrote:OK right so you have never seen them at a game just in the pub.
the wall wrote:lol! "The wally" is touchy today! For just about every team, you could find issolated incidents such as those mentioned. Obviously, I think those incidents are terrible, and rightly a lot of the culprits were prosecuted and banned from Charlton for life. However, you can't dispute that if you were to do a google search of violence involving Millwall fans, you are likely to come up with many more stories over the years than if you did the same for other clubs. And as I say, my personal experience is of a group of Millwall fans that drunk in my local who didn't seem to hide the fact that they go away to away grounds for fights. Scum! The club has and will always have a terrible reputation.PaulErith wrote: Millwall have made their own reputation, and now I'm afraid they have to live with it. Trouble never seems to be too far away from the club. I know several Millwall 'fans' in my local, and the main reason they 'support' them is because they like causing trouble and getting into fights. They've openly admitted this. It seems that the club attracts these types.Paula is a Charlton Athletic fanboi. Lets look at how Charlton fans behave. A group of Charlton Athletic supporters singing racist songs on a train following their FA Cup tie at Fulham on 7 January 2012. How about the fighting with palace fans. So wind your neck in.
Right that it's then hang them.
You're such a moron.
PaulErith
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2:33pm Wed 29 Aug 12
Outandabout
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1:31pm Thu 30 Aug 12
reasonable75
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5:57pm Thu 30 Aug 12
The Sheffield Wed fans invaded the pitch at the end and some Palace players got attacked
Trying to get back to the station was a nightmare
LittleByLittle
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4:04pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Outandabout wrote:I have to say this quite a bit on here...I'm not a journalist. It's a Millwall blog for Millwall fans, written in a fanzine style. Therefore it does combine gossip with speculation and rumours with opinions and musings.
"I wasn't able to make it to Hillsborough but I followed events via Twitter and Lions Player". LAZY reporting. Everyone is doing it. Using non verifiable sources for 'news' the BBC do it and you did it. I could have easily set up a sad B** account, I mean 'Twitter and added anything I liked while sat anywhere in the world and it gets quoted as fact. Lazy, lazy reporting. Either report what you actually saw or use verifiable and attributable sources. It’s called ‘Journalism’ not ‘gossip’.
Don't worry, I acknowledge your apologies in advance.
LittleByLittle
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4:09pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Others have compared my mum not liking Sheffield to racism...I'll be interested to hear people who have lived through apartheid views on that. Sorry, she just doesn't like northern cities - she genuinely finds them depressing. But she doesn't think a wall should be built across the Watford Gap.
As for Paul from Erith - the last time we played you was in fact the 4-0 win at The Den, not the draw at The Valley. This makes me question whether you actually know what you're talking about at all, and therefore discredits everything you've said.
PaulErith
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12:20pm Mon 3 Sep 12
LittleByLittle wrote:I was talking about last time we played Millwall at home. I'm sure you could have worked that out! Didn't get to the away game. But as a very long time season ticket holder who also goes to many away games, I certainly do know what I'm talking about.
As for the rest of you - some of you have very poor comprehension and have missed the point. Others have compared my mum not liking Sheffield to racism...I'll be interested to hear people who have lived through apartheid views on that. Sorry, she just doesn't like northern cities - she genuinely finds them depressing. But she doesn't think a wall should be built across the Watford Gap. As for Paul from Erith - the last time we played you was in fact the 4-0 win at The Den, not the draw at The Valley. This makes me question whether you actually know what you're talking about at all, and therefore discredits everything you've said.

steel city says...
4:36pm Tue 28 Aug 12