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Why I miss northern grimness when I follow Millwall away

NEWS Shopper online’s Millwall columnist MATT LITTLE bemoans the soulless new stadiums found in the north of England after Saturday’s trip to Hull City’s shiny new KC Arena.

WHEN I was growing up I used to love the re-runs of classic 70s sitcom ‘The Likely Lads’.

The nostalgic look at how everything you hold dear, your hair-line, your favourite pub, your neighbourhood, changes, and not always for the better, was entertaining stuff.

The signature tune had the line ‘whatever happened to you?’ in it, and more and more these days I think this about some of Millwall’s opponents, especially the northern ones.

The north of England used to be home to some of this country’s most atmospheric old grounds and the likes of Ayresome Park, the Victoria Ground, Roker Park, Filbert Street and the Baseball Ground really could raise a racket.

And yes, Derby and Leicester is the north to us south Londoners, they’re both past the Watford Gap.

These old grounds used to be filled with tough old miners, shipbuilders and car and metal workers, so it’s quite a sight to see these clubs playing at characterless bowl stadiums in front of club-shop bedecked odd-balls dancing around to goal celebration music these days.

Saturday’s opponents Hull City are one of the most extreme examples of this transformation.

The old Boothferry Park, scene of Millwall’s greatest ever achievement – promotion to the top flight in 1988 as champions - was a rough old place filled with rough old people.

Hull the place still is rough, not in a romantic sepia kind of way, but in a depressingly bleak and hopeless one.

Yet the football team play in a shiny plastic bowl stadium where the locals sing ‘you’re getting mauled by the tigers’, complete with camp mock mauling actions.

I don’t know about you but when I travel to some grim northern outpost I want to experience grim northern culture.

These new grounds need to be deliberately ramshackled and free tickets given to local meatheads to give it a more authentic northern feel.

I’m being glib, of course.

However, when the alternative is a sea of grown men in ill-fitting and garish amber replica tops sitting in complete silence, unless prompted, you do wonder.

I have no idea where the likes of Hull City are getting these people from, though.

This idea of the ultimate football fan was created in about 1998 by the Sky executives and like a common cold, it has spread.

Sky seem to have convinced people unless you are totally obsessed with your club and constantly involved in harmless ‘banter’ while wearing every item in the club-shop, then you’re not a true fan.

The days when ordinary people simply went along to watch their side as a hobby, dressed in normal clothes after sharing a beer with friends and family seem a world away.

Grounds used to be very partisan, filled with local pride and built up venom.

However, it was left at the ground once people got home to their lives and family.

Now grounds are mostly silent, but the internet and phone-in shows seem to hum with ‘banter’ constantly.

The fact most of this so-called banter is banal and puerile doesn’t seem to hinder its popularity with this generation of fans at all.

Before this Sky revolution, saying you were a football fan was simply an admission of enjoying a hobby.

Now it is like admitting to being a mentally immature oddball with no grasp on reality.

The likes of Millwall and Stoke City seem to have bucked this trend so far.

Our rewards have been to be called throwbacks to the 1980s, or to receive constant scorn from the Murdoch empire, not that either of us seem to care.

Maybe if the bubble does finally burst we will be remembered as valiant bastions of English football culture?

But that’s about as likely as Millwall winning on the road these days, as it was the Sky clones of Hull who went home happy on Saturday after an insipid 2-0 win.

Perhaps the Likely Lads song was right - the only thing to look forward to is the past.

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Comments(5)

londontiger says...
10:06am Wed 21 Dec 11

I was at Saturday's game and what struck me was how little away support there was. Only about 150 Millwall fans showed up. Millwall-- "Valiant bastions of English football culture?" Really?

moody1885 says...
11:14am Wed 21 Dec 11

I'm not sure what number of fans has to do with English football culture.

I would argue that the 3,000 odd souls that make up Rochdale's average home crowd are more reflective of traditional English fan culture than the 60,000 that go to watch Arsenal at the Emirates.

And I can think we can all work out why there was so little support from south London -

1) That FA Cup game when 2,846 Millwall fans travel saw the local police force embarrassed. They are still out for our blood; so many stayed at home.

Which was an easy choice when you consider...

2) Hull is a nightmare to get to, there's nothing there when you do and it's the week before Christmas when there's the worst recession since the 1930s going on.

3) We're crap on the road.

Millwall's average away turn out this season is 1,104. The fact that 900 or so chose to stay at home or go out with mates says more about Hull the place than it does our away support.

Like the article implies...we're not sad obsessed odd balls that have to prove things to other sad cases by wearing the club shop or going to hell holes like Hull.

Rich Tiger says...
11:01pm Wed 21 Dec 11

You say Hull is a nightmare to get to and nothing there when you do. There are 2 direct services on a Saturday from London that would get you there in time for 3pm kick off; and an easy walk back to the station for an 18:30 train home. No harder than when we go to London to support The Tigers and we regularly take over a 1,000.

As for there being nothing there...well if you had the time you could have taken in some excellent real ale pubs in the Old Town or if you turn your nose up at that we have modern bars a plenty in the Princes Ave/Newland Ave student area.

If you want culture we have an excellent art gallery (Ferens), half a dozen internationally revered museums incl one dedicated to William Wilberforce and the abolition of slavery.
You could have read the poems of Philip Larkin in the railway station...awww I give up I can't help but laugh...I guess you have all this and very much more in Bermondsey! Please come back again when you actually have a cogent and well researched point to make.

moody1885 says...
4:09pm Fri 23 Dec 11

Erm, you do realise that Bermondsey is near the centre of one of greatest cities in the world, right?

I'm sure Hull is a lovely place to a simple provincial like you.

But I've seen the bright lights of London, Berlin, Paris, Munich, Rome, Milan, Amsterdam, New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Francisco, Barcelona, Budapest, Prague, Istanbul, Vienna....

And my head has been turned...and your list of cultural activities sounds laughable, almost pathetic.

Sorry.

Aye opp...any road up...etc..

londontiger says...
1:11pm Sat 24 Dec 11

"Bermondsey is near the centre of one of the greatest cities in the world, right?" Totally agree. I've lived in London for over forty years and have never been there.

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