Touchy Leeds fans are so easy to wind up for us Lions

2:37pm Wednesday 21st November 2012 in Sport

Leeds fans travelled in big numbers for Sunday's defeat at The Den. PICTURE BY EDMUND BOYDEN. Leeds fans travelled in big numbers for Sunday's defeat at The Den. PICTURE BY EDMUND BOYDEN.

MILLWALL columnist MATT LITTLE feels Sunday’s win over Leeds United was the perfect way to mark Kenny Jackett’s century of victories, a club who the Lions have regularly enjoyed impressive results against during the current Den manager’s reign.

IT was rather apt that Kenny Jackett's 100th win as Millwall manager came against fallen Yorkshire giants Leeds United on Sunday.

Especially as it was settled by one of his trademark astute loan signings, rescued from another club's scrap-bin, after a typically hard working and spirited performance.

It was also apt as the two clubs have been locked in battle for the majority of Jackett's five year reign at The Den.

And it tells you a lot about Kenny's managerial skills that we have not only been able to keep up with the Elland Road outfit in that time, but also become a bit of a thorn in their side too.

We have really got under their pale northern skin over the last few years.

So much so that according to a recent football fan survey they thought of little old Millwall as their second main rival after Manchester United.

Bless ‘em, they didn't feature in ours.

It is true Leeds really have been manna from heaven for us mickey taking south Londoners, they are so easy to wind up it is almost cruel.

I say almost because let's not forget this is the club whose fans have taken great delight in mocking the Munich tragedy, setting fire to a burger van to 'celebrate' the anniversary of the Bradford fire and running amok in poor old sleepy Bournemouth.

Therefore it is highly amusing they genuinely believe we are the spawn of the devil.

Even funnier is the fact they are getting all upset about our little Jimmy Savile ditty on Sunday, bleating on about it to anybody that'll listen.

It really is like the school bully squealing to teacher about being called a name, even more so as it was they who started chanting the shamed Yorkshire celebrity's name in the warm-up.

Besides, you'd think they'd be keeping a low profile and focusing on their own problems after a few of their passionate fans went marching on together onto the Hillsborough pitch, resulting in one assaulting the Wednesday goalkeeper live on Sky.

But then again they've never been the sharpest tools in the box.

They thought Ken Bates was the saviour not so long ago and got a Leeds-supporting and promising young manager in Simon Grayson sacked, only to replace him with a Sheffield United supporting motormouth.

Pity, as they were winning friends under Grayson but have reverted to type and gone back to being known as Dirty Leeds under Warnock, almost back to their diving and thuggish 1970s best if Sunday was anything to go by.

For those of us not around in the early 1970s, that was the last time Leeds were really justified in having Manchester United as their main rivals.

I looked it up.

Although one Brian Clough wouldn't even agree with that, he thought they should have thrown their medals in the bin as they hadn't earned them fair and square.

But then again he liked wearing green jumpers and called his son Nigel, so who knows.

The best thing about Leeds United though is the fact they get so angry about our wind ups, yet their only comeback on us is about the numbers we take up to Elland Road.

It's hardly cutting stuff though, the fact that most Millwall fans have enough of a life not to bother paying over the odds to spend the day meeting the West Yorkshire Police in motorway service stations just to visit a provincial dive and sit in a half empty stadium watching second tier football.

Isn't that embarrassing?

Indeed, they should take a leaf out of our books, after all getting thrashed at the hands of mighty Watford couldn't have been much fun to watch for over £30 a pop in that lopsided stadium of theirs.

Although going by the twenty thousand empty seats at most Elland Road games thses days, some have started to see our logic.

Perhaps there is hope for them yet.

Anyway, that's enough on Leeds, certainly enough to make them feel better about being such a worthy club to talk about at least.

See, the Championship isn't all bad, is it you mighty Whites?

We now travel to Blackburn and Wolves before my next blog, two very tough away games.

If we can remain unbeaten for 12 games after facing those two, then it will say a lot about how our season may take shape.

However, I think we might see this great run come to an end at one of these fixtures.

There would be no shame in this, but it might temper rising expectations a bit.

The high intensity of this league is taking its toll on the team somewhat.

I thought we looked a bit leggy on Sunday and although we are a match for anybody on our day you only have to look at the strength of depth at our next two opponents to see what we are up against over a season.

Whatever happens here's to another 100 wins under King Kenny and one more against Leeds!

Agree or disagree? Leave your comments below.

Comments(45)

sir michael says...
3:41pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Iam a Leeds United fan, yes the biggest club outside the top flight and as most Leeds fans couldnt careless about your little club.Has we all know Millwall fans are vile animals and thats the only reason anyone knows who little millwall are.
Marching On Together.

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joeshawty says...
3:43pm Wed 21 Nov 12

oh dear - 'Millwall columnist' who uses up 90% of his inches talking about Leeds? And apparently you don't really care about us? Pull the other one

Full of clichés, bigotry and generalisations that verge on libel - someone (and someone's editor) hasn't done their NCTJ course. The sort of thing I'd expect to see in Ken Bates' programme notes!

Enjoy your career in low-quality local press... I have a feeling it's going to be a long one.

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JoeRichardson says...
4:19pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Very enjoyable watching another smaller club lavish at the possibility of overtaking Leeds. I truly hope you keep savouring it while it lasts; as your club reaches it's limit, existing in thje championship with no realistic prospect of pushing for the Prem, we acknowledge the fact that in our relative rock bottom state, your football compares to us. We are currently amidst one of the worst eras in our history, one that small clubs such as yourself relish, perhaps even more so due to the acceptance we shall eventually returned to the heights we have deserved for so long. Enjoy your peak while you're there, enjoy celebrating a manager that can sustain mediocrity, enjoy being able to compare yourselves to us while you can. Ten years from know, we'll have long forgotten you, don't worry.
And how any Millwall fan can judge any opposing fan behaviour is beyond me.

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Marty1979 says...
4:21pm Wed 21 Nov 12

sir michael wrote:
Iam a Leeds United fan, yes the biggest club outside the top flight and as most Leeds fans couldnt careless about your little club.Has we all know Millwall fans are vile animals and thats the only reason anyone knows who little millwall are.
Marching On Together.
Careless? I presume you mean care less?

Try learning spelling and grammar at your primary school

Remember we speak English down here

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joeshawty says...
4:30pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Marty1979 wrote:
sir michael wrote:
Iam a Leeds United fan, yes the biggest club outside the top flight and as most Leeds fans couldnt careless about your little club.Has we all know Millwall fans are vile animals and thats the only reason anyone knows who little millwall are.
Marching On Together.
Careless? I presume you mean care less?

Try learning spelling and grammar at your primary school

Remember we speak English down here
Punctuate your sentences a bit better if you're going to try that one matey. Don't be afraid to use a full-stop now and again!

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THC1988 says...
4:40pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Dear Leeds fans,
I think it is time you let go of your inhibitions and really embrace us as rivals.
I mean the thing you had with Man Utd is over, they've moved on and it is time for you to move on too.
Perhaps you were over achieving back in the 70s and now you have found your true level - I know that can be hard to accept but it doesn't mean we can't have fun together.
I think the last 4 or 5 seasons of games could really develop into something, you know, special - we could be really good together - you like to play the victim and we like to victimise people - it is a match made in heaven!

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sir michael says...
4:45pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Sad you southern softies have nothing better to talk about.bye millscum

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Ricky123 says...
5:31pm Wed 21 Nov 12

I think you better tell the Man U fans the rivalry is over, as they chant about us every game.
Also when you looked back did you skip 1991-2004? The rivalry was there, especially when we beat them to the title.
I like how you point out how committed your fans are by saying you have better things to do that watch your club play, using your excuse then god help you when you go down again as " just to visit a provincial dive and sit in a half empty stadium watching second tier football." is the order of the day in League 1.
You keep telling yourself you think nothing of Leeds then keep talking and writing about us.

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Rob Atk61 says...
5:49pm Wed 21 Nov 12

I've complained about this article to the Met Police, whose job I believe your gutter journalism is making that much harder. You seem to think you're extremely clever, picking up the people you've needlessly irritated on points of grammar and so forth, yet I notice it's only lately that the spelling of "manna" has been corrected in your juvenile excuse for an article.

I sincerely hope that the Police will take some action against you, for what amounts to behaviour likely to exacerbate an already bad situation the next time Millwall and Leeds United meet. You're not half so clever as you seem to think you are, and I will be bringing this piece of irresponsible rubbish to the attention of as many in authority as I'm able, until I get some sort of satisfactory response.

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Tony Clifton says...
5:58pm Wed 21 Nov 12

"It's hardly cutting stuff though, the fact that most Millwall fans have enough of a life not to bother paying over the odds to spend the day meeting the West Yorkshire Police in motorway service stations just to visit a provincial dive and sit in a half empty stadium watching second tier football."

It seems this Millwall fan is still a bit upset about how they were treated ahead of the semi-final play-off match at Elland Road in 2009. Why was it that Millwall fans were asked to pick up tickets from a service station from West Yorkshire police ahead of the game? Oh yeah I remember it is because on of your fans ran onto the pitch and pushed Casper Ankergren. Odd that Mr Little mentions the incident at Hillsborough but fails to elaborate on that point. Glass houses, throwing stones?

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Tony Clifton says...
5:58pm Wed 21 Nov 12

"It's hardly cutting stuff though, the fact that most Millwall fans have enough of a life not to bother paying over the odds to spend the day meeting the West Yorkshire Police in motorway service stations just to visit a provincial dive and sit in a half empty stadium watching second tier football."

It seems this Millwall fan is still a bit upset about how they were treated ahead of the semi-final play-off match at Elland Road in 2009. Why was it that Millwall fans were asked to pick up tickets from a service station from West Yorkshire police ahead of the game? Oh yeah I remember it is because on of your fans ran onto the pitch and pushed Casper Ankergren. Odd that Mr Little mentions the incident at Hillsborough but fails to elaborate on that point. Glass houses, throwing stones?

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GazzaLDN says...
6:14pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Rob Atk61 wrote:
I've complained about this article to the Met Police, whose job I believe your gutter journalism is making that much harder. You seem to think you're extremely clever, picking up the people you've needlessly irritated on points of grammar and so forth, yet I notice it's only lately that the spelling of "manna" has been corrected in your juvenile excuse for an article.

I sincerely hope that the Police will take some action against you, for what amounts to behaviour likely to exacerbate an already bad situation the next time Millwall and Leeds United meet. You're not half so clever as you seem to think you are, and I will be bringing this piece of irresponsible rubbish to the attention of as many in authority as I'm able, until I get some sort of satisfactory response.
Oh Dear, Leeds soon to be twinned with Liverpool. sanctimonious victimhood

Hopefully the Old Bill will do you for wasting their time.

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joeshawty says...
6:53pm Wed 21 Nov 12

A journalist with some integrity would put a bit of distance between himself and average scumbag on the terraces of The Den.

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Knavesmire says...
7:21pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Lets go easy on this poor fool Matt Little.

He draws his earnings from News Shopper and that is sufficient humiliation.

Also, we must pity all Millwall fans that their club and it's environs are the most loathsome in the UK. (I lived in Lewisham for 12 forgettable months so I am qualified in this opinion).

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Johnmurt says...
7:47pm Wed 21 Nov 12

The really sad thing about this article is the fact the author cannot bring himself to say how they wind Leeds fans up. Just to clarify it's nothing to do with Jimmy Saville it's the fact they mock the death of two fans murdered in Turkey. They wear shirts slit their throats with their hands and sing Istanbul and always look on the Turk man for knives. They try and excuse themselves by saying it's banter or that Leeds fans deserve it for their past acts. The author however knows that this is no real excuse and so he doesn't mention it. The sad thing is he isn't 14 and he isn't stupid but him and his mates not only do it but then post blogs glorifying it. What he must know is that all decent people will recognise it's his behaviourand not the Leeds fans he writes about that is reprehensible.

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barrylion says...
8:38pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Matt little is bang on 100%

All crying over spilt milk haha

And same old Leeds thinking there a big club haha

And yes Rob please go and grass to the police, thats what your fans do , give it the large when no police about but grass when the tables turned! and as a fan pushed casper over, didnt a leeds fan punch chris kirkland in the head? (and typical leeds style from behind?)

just admit your club are going to league one...haha with a player like michael brown thats the only league your going

p.s. Jimmy saville, his one of your own!...one of your own!

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paulbowler60 says...
9:08pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Millwall a Leeds nemesis?...you are avin a laarf my old china. Just join the back of the line with everyone else who consider themselves a rival;

Man Urinals (Still sing about us)
Cardiff (started our slide..yeah right)
Bradford (their cup final every time)
Barnsley (love to hate us)
Both Sheffield teams
Huddersfield (close but no cigar)
Chelsea (still sing about us too)
Notts Forest (scabs)
Hull City (coz they are in Yorks-just)
Burnley (not even in Yorkshire)
Chesterfield (never even played em!)
Rotherham

Fact is, we don't consider Millwall a rival apart from the 2 games per season we play em. We are hated by just about everyone we play and despite the fact you all remind us we aint famous anymore, its normally the biggest crowd of the season at the lesser stadiums like the citadel that is the new Denn.

Like Millwall, do you really think we give a flying feck about being disliked?! If you consider that dragging-up murders of family blokes in Turkey and kiddy fiddlers from Yorkshire is clever then knock yourselves out my eel munching chums.

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Epimetheus says...
9:12pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Slightly disappointed with this article. Shooting fish in a barrel springs to mind. Leeds fans have enough on their plates without you adding to their woes. I was told never to mock the afflicted and I stand by that motto.

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Rob Atk61 says...
11:31pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Epimetheus wrote:
Slightly disappointed with this article. Shooting fish in a barrel springs to mind. Leeds fans have enough on their plates without you adding to their woes. I was told never to mock the afflicted and I stand by that motto.
Thing is, Epimetheus, mocking the afflicted counts as self-abuse in your case. Ask your wiser sibling, Prometheus...

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Rob Atk61 says...
12:28am Thu 22 Nov 12

Not at all. I just believe that Millwall FC represent everything bad about the game, as typified by various of their adherents, notably this talentless hack Matt Little, whom I sincerely hope to see lose his job.

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Londump says...
12:38am Thu 22 Nov 12

joeshawty wrote:
A journalist with some integrity would put a bit of distance between himself and average scumbag on the terraces of The Den.
just goes to show how low they are at Millwall, even their journalists are racist bigots. I'm sure he thought the racist abuse directed at Diouf was a good laugh

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Whitey12 says...
1:13am Thu 22 Nov 12

Just to let you know...Jimmy Saville was a Man U fan!.
Also is it true the new den has the threat of closure from the local council?
A design fault I heard!
Yep that's right
The stands are facing the pitch!

Love ya!

See you at Eland Road you cheeky second rate London team supporter. Xx

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PaulErith says...
8:46am Thu 22 Nov 12

Marty1979 wrote:
sir michael wrote: Iam a Leeds United fan, yes the biggest club outside the top flight and as most Leeds fans couldnt careless about your little club.Has we all know Millwall fans are vile animals and thats the only reason anyone knows who little millwall are. Marching On Together.
Careless? I presume you mean care less? Try learning spelling and grammar at your primary school Remember we speak English down here
That's a very funny comment. You have criticised someone's grammar, and yet you've failed to put full stops at the end of your sentences. That's something that a 5 year old kid learns! You've tried to make yourself look big, and ended up looking like a fool.

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cookster says...
10:38am Thu 22 Nov 12

I don't support either club but could clearly hear on Sky Millwall fans (not a minority either) taunting Leeds supporters with a song about the murders in Turkey.

I think I'd be wound up too. Classy as ever.

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LittleByLittle says...
10:50am Thu 22 Nov 12

Just to put some of you Leeds fans' minds at rest, here is the football fan survey I used to say Leeds fans see Millwall as their 2nd rival:

http://thechriswhiti
ngshow.wordpress.com
/2012/08/28/2012-foo
tball-rivalry-census
-results/

I never simply make things up.

As for this Millwall fan numbers at Elland Road nonsense. The last time Millwall fans could travel to Leeds with no restrictions 1,431 travelled to a Sunday afternoon game - representing circa 12% of our average home support at the time.

Millwall are actually quite a well-supported team on the road - as a percentage of home fans. We regularly take 9-12% of our average home gate to away fixtures.

If restrictions for Leeds United away were lifted and the fixture was played on a Saturday 3pm then I would imagine, given the history between the two clubs, 1,500 to 2,500 would travel. However, unlike the Met. Police the West Yorkshire Police obviously do not feel they can host a Saturday 3pm fixture between the two clubs at this time.

I know some will say that is because of us Millwall fans - well, as with this whole thread on here that is only half the story. Because Saturday 3pm games at The Den, involving up to 16,000 Millwall fans, for a Leeds fixture have gone off without incident. As have games against our fiercest rivals West Ham at 3pm Saturday games at The Den.

As I hinted at in the article, Leeds need to look closer to home. Yes, I have left out are own misdeeds, it's an extremely biased Millwall blog, I hold my hands up for that...but Leeds fans need to recognise it was they who started chanted Jimmy Savile's name in the warm-up and they also threw seats and coins at home fans. It's funny, but we never have these long debates over who did what with Norwich City or Fulham fans.

Furthermore, our closes geographical rivals Charlton Athletic are our next home fixture - there are NO restrictions in place for either set of fans. They will be on the bottom tier, pubs will be open and I doubt I’ll be writing about trouble at all.

You can check these sites for all figures in this reply: http://www.football-
league.co.uk/page/Ho
me/0,,10794,00.html

http://www.millwall-
history.org.uk/Millw
all-Stats0405-1.htm

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LittleByLittle says...
10:51am Thu 22 Nov 12

Here's that fan survey link again..so you don't have to type it out:

http://thechriswhiti
ngshow.wordpress.com
/2012/08/28/2012-foo
tball-rivalry-census
-results/

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LittleByLittle says...
10:52am Thu 22 Nov 12

Oh well, looks like you will have too.

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Johnmurt says...
12:52pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Matt the fact you still want to talk about Jimmy Saville and can't bring yourself to mention the Turkey chants suggests to me you're ashamed. Hope so you should be.

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cm punk says...
1:13pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Matt had it fixed for him by jimmy

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Tony Clifton says...
3:19pm Thu 22 Nov 12

LittleByLittle wrote:
Just to put some of you Leeds fans' minds at rest, here is the football fan survey I used to say Leeds fans see Millwall as their 2nd rival:

http://thechriswhiti

ngshow.wordpress.com

/2012/08/28/2012-foo

tball-rivalry-census

-results/

I never simply make things up.

As for this Millwall fan numbers at Elland Road nonsense. The last time Millwall fans could travel to Leeds with no restrictions 1,431 travelled to a Sunday afternoon game - representing circa 12% of our average home support at the time.

Millwall are actually quite a well-supported team on the road - as a percentage of home fans. We regularly take 9-12% of our average home gate to away fixtures.

If restrictions for Leeds United away were lifted and the fixture was played on a Saturday 3pm then I would imagine, given the history between the two clubs, 1,500 to 2,500 would travel. However, unlike the Met. Police the West Yorkshire Police obviously do not feel they can host a Saturday 3pm fixture between the two clubs at this time.

I know some will say that is because of us Millwall fans - well, as with this whole thread on here that is only half the story. Because Saturday 3pm games at The Den, involving up to 16,000 Millwall fans, for a Leeds fixture have gone off without incident. As have games against our fiercest rivals West Ham at 3pm Saturday games at The Den.

As I hinted at in the article, Leeds need to look closer to home. Yes, I have left out are own misdeeds, it's an extremely biased Millwall blog, I hold my hands up for that...but Leeds fans need to recognise it was they who started chanted Jimmy Savile's name in the warm-up and they also threw seats and coins at home fans. It's funny, but we never have these long debates over who did what with Norwich City or Fulham fans.

Furthermore, our closes geographical rivals Charlton Athletic are our next home fixture - there are NO restrictions in place for either set of fans. They will be on the bottom tier, pubs will be open and I doubt I’ll be writing about trouble at all.

You can check these sites for all figures in this reply: http://www.football-

league.co.uk/page/Ho

me/0,,10794,00.html

http://www.millwall-

history.org.uk/Millw

all-Stats0405-1.htm
"Yes, I have left out are own misdeeds, it's an extremely biased Millwall blog, I hold my hands up for that."

Glad to see you have admitted that Mr Little. Enjoy your broken greenhouse. I personally do not want to see you lose your job as one other fan has put and don't think you will do. After all this blog has set out what it intended to do in generating a lot of one-off traffic to the website. Even if I don't agree with the way you have gone about it.
It is very Tony Clifton/Andy Kaufman like. As the comedian would say himself. "I want gut reactions. I want the audience to have gone through an experience. They love me, they hate me, they walk out. At least I have provoked a reaction."
As for the idiots correct each other's spelling do something better with your time, nobody wins in that argument.

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LEEDSMOT says...
3:24pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Yeah it should be fun while it lasts, that depends on your survival though!

http://www.sportingl
ife.com/football/cha
mpionship/news/artic
le/360/8270999/millw
all-post-4m-losses?

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LEEDSMOT says...
3:24pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Yeah it should be fun while it lasts, that depends on your survival though!

http://www.sportingl
ife.com/football/cha
mpionship/news/artic
le/360/8270999/millw
all-post-4m-losses?

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LittleByLittle says...
7:24pm Thu 22 Nov 12

LEEDSMOT wrote:
Yeah it should be fun while it lasts, that depends on your survival though!

http://www.sportingl

ife.com/football/cha

mpionship/news/artic

le/Millwall FC aims for ‘sustainable success’ with new loan facility

Millwall Holdings PLC has agreed an increased loan facility with its majority shareholder Chestnut Hill Ventures amounting to £20m until July 2015 to fund ‘sustainable success’ at the Championship club.
The facility consolidates current outstanding loans of approximately £11.5m and provides the Company with sufficient working capital to fund day-to-day operations and likely investment in the regeneration of the immediate area surrounding The Den over the next few years.
Chairman John G Berylson, who also runs CHV, commented: “This shows our continued commitment to Millwall FC. We have stated in the past that we see this as a long term plan and I am delighted the Club continues to make progress both on and off the field.
The regeneration of the surrounding area at The Den and our commitment to the Millwall Community Scheme shows that we are here to stay and want to achieve sustainable success.
Too many clubs in the past have gone through boom and bust in their attempts to get to The Premiership. Millwall is committed to getting there in a sensible way that doesn’t threaten the Club’s long-term viability. Developing The Den and our surrounding area will help to future proof our prospects and success.
The Club is benefiting from a long period of continuity. We have one of the country’s longest serving managers in Kenny Jackett who has just marked his 5th year in charge of the team. We are also looking forward to next season when we celebrate 20 years at The Den in Bermondsey.”
The Financial Statements of Millwall Holdings PLC for the year ended 30 June 2012 have been sent to shareholders of the Company. The results for the year show an increased loss from operations to £3.95m compared with a £0.60m loss in the previous year. The principal reasons for the increase in the loss are the reduction in profit arising from the transfer of player registrations of £1.48m and the increase in player related costs of £1.90m.
John Berylson added: “The results reflect how difficult it is to compete at Championship level especially in regard to building and financing a squad capable of being successful in a very tough league. We have a sound and competent management team that is both ambitious and responsibly cautious.
I am delighted at the progress we have made and would like to pay tribute to everyone involved at the Club for the hard work, commitment and support. I look forward to further progress both on the field and in regard to the regeneration of the area surrounding our stadium.”

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LittleByLittle says...
7:27pm Thu 22 Nov 12

Basically, I think we will be okay LeedsMOT.

As am sure Leeds will return to the big time. And when you do, after a few years you might even look back on these battles with us with a warped kind of fondness.

We've almost out Leeds you.

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Londump says...
9:34pm Thu 22 Nov 12

This Millwall journalist will write an article next sending out his respect and admiration to Lazio fans, I suppose Spurs fans are 'touchy' for getting stabbed and beaten up, they really need to man up eh? you utter filth

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LittleByLittle says...
12:10pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Londump wrote:
This Millwall journalist will write an article next sending out his respect and admiration to Lazio fans, I suppose Spurs fans are 'touchy' for getting stabbed and beaten up, they really need to man up eh? you utter filth
________
What a silly thing to say.

You need to have a think about why Millwall and Leeds are in this silly name calling / wind up spate.

The article is saying how I find it amusing Leeds are moaning...given Leeds' unsavoury history and the first thing they did on their first visit to the 'new' Den was to rip out seats and sing about Millwall fans getting stabbed in Budapest, after disturbing a minute’s silence.

We’ve just given you some of your own medicine back. And it doesn't taste nice does it? It’s all sticks and stones really though.

Perhaps Leeds fans should stick to terrorising more meek targets in future?

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Johnmurt says...
7:09pm Fri 23 Nov 12

That's brilliant he's now resorted to pretending we once mocked some of their fans who had been stabbed to justify his vile behaviour. Think this idiot has shown himself up enough. Leeds have problems but compared to Millwall we are Mary Poppins

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LittleByLittle says...
8:25pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Pretend? Leeds fans brought a Hungarian flag one season.

No one has ever had to resort to making up stuff about how low some will resort to in the name of Leeds United. You're comparison is an interesting one - as Millwall do indeed have their problems, but a bit of fisticuffs with other clubs' hooligans & a few wind up chants seems almost 'boys will boys' compared to wrecking a whole innocent town and setting fire to a burger van at a stadium the home club had to move to because a fire had gutted their ground and killed fans...on the anniversary.

Perhaps you're right though...Leeds have changed. They were a lot more like the likes of Reading and Watford fans on Sunday...compared to previous visits. However, Id be a bit catatonic too if I was a Leeds fan.

Sorry if I think Leeds fans moaning about us is about as credible as a vote of confidence by Roman Abramovich.

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Johnmurt says...
10:35pm Fri 23 Nov 12

Yea course they did. If it makes you feel better to lie and talk about things that happened a quarter of a century ago, go ahead. Sing your Turkey songs if you think it's clever. But you and I both know better.

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LittleByLittle says...
8:33am Sat 24 Nov 12

John, and other Leeds fans on here...you really have to stop thinking as yourselves as the victims in all of this.

Ask any other football fan outside of Millwall & Leeds and they'll say we are as bad as each other.

It's this sense of victimisation that I have found amusing this last 5 years. And now you're saying I'm making stuff up, genuinely outraged that I would suggest that Leeds fans are anything but the model football fans. And you're serious.

That's why you lot have been 'manna from heaven'...you're not victims, you're equal protagonist in this silly tit for tat...the amusement comes from the fact we recognise this, you lot don't. We don't actually mean any of the things we say or chant...you lot do.

Sorry, if you find a bully's button you're gonna push it again and again.

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Johnmurt says...
9:59am Sat 24 Nov 12

You're making yourself look stupid. Next you'll be on about Paris nearly 40 years ago.

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LittleByLittle says...
5:42pm Sat 24 Nov 12

So, we all imagined the attack on the Sheffield Wednesday keeper a few weeks ago?

And the footage of Leeds herberts on CCTV Cities a year or so ago was CGI?

Like I said...this whole 'Leeds fans are poor, put upon little lambs' act is highly amusing...and probably just not for Millwall fans, but the entire league.

If no one had of left a comment to this blog I would have looked such a muppet.

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Johnmurt says...
8:30am Sun 25 Nov 12

Ha ha. Now he changes from prattling on about events 25yrs ago. You're not very good at this are you. Seems you're the one getting wound up. Go down the pub with your mates and sing some Turkey songs that'll cheer you all up

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Tip-Top says...
9:32am Mon 26 Nov 12

From what I've been told, it wasn't all solely about "Turkey songs"....most of it was aimed at Leeds fans for leaving their mates behind on that terrible night.

The songs are not acceptable, end of!!! And although a vast majority of teams have their hooligan element, most of which is not reported by the media, depending on which team of course, Leeds and Millwall do have previous. What the blog is about is purely down to “Leeds” becoming insecure about their status within the football pyramid…its all about opinions!

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the wall says...
9:41am Mon 26 Nov 12

LittleByLittle wrote:
So, we all imagined the attack on the Sheffield Wednesday keeper a few weeks ago?

And the footage of Leeds herberts on CCTV Cities a year or so ago was CGI?

Like I said...this whole 'Leeds fans are poor, put upon little lambs' act is highly amusing...and probably just not for Millwall fans, but the entire league.

If no one had of left a comment to this blog I would have looked such a muppet.
This +1

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