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12:31pm Wednesday 20th February 2008
PEOPLE living in Bexley will not be offered discount prices on the new Dartford tolls.
The Department of Transport is proposing residents of Dartford will get 50 free crossings and then discounts of nearly 90 per cent when the toll is increased from £1 to £1.50.
But people from Bexley will be expected to pay the full amount.
Bexley Council leader Councillor Ian Clement is fuming about this.
He described the move as "ludicrous" and said: "Yet again we find Bexley residents being treated as second-class citizens by Government.
"Because of the serious lack of public transport options in our borough, people are forced into using cars.
"They are then being penalised for this."
Cllr Clement said Dartford was the nearest river crossing point to Bexley and the proposal would "rob some of the most isolated and deprived communities in the Thames Gateway area of better job prospects".
Consultations are under way on the proposals, which would give toll discounts only to people living in Dartford and Thurrock.
It is expected the new tolls and the discounts - which apply only to private cars - will begin in the autumn.
tasha, sidcup says...
1:25pm Wed 20 Feb 08
Bromgal, Kent says...
2:35pm Wed 20 Feb 08
BB, London says...
2:36pm Wed 20 Feb 08
ABC, London says...
3:09pm Wed 20 Feb 08
wrong!, bexley says...
6:03pm Wed 20 Feb 08
ABC, London says...
7:13pm Wed 20 Feb 08
RJ Moan, Bexley says...
7:47pm Wed 20 Feb 08
Sibonetic, Plumstead says...
9:57pm Wed 20 Feb 08
Fran, Greenwich says...
2:22pm Thu 21 Feb 08
RJ Moan wrote:If you remember back when the plans for charges were put in place, if you have a pre-paid DART-Tag card it will increase from 93p to £1. So you will save 50p on each crossing.
As a government employee, travelling from Bexley to Thurrock, I will not be entitled to the discount. My journey time is currently 35mins. If i had to use the Ferry or Blackwall tunnel, although it is free, it is an extra 30mins each way, thus making my carbon foot print larger. This government really cannot see the wood for the trees. I also work with people who, for the government, travel from Surrey who need to cross the bridge, should they not be entitled to the discount?? Should every road-tax, car-insurance, MOT paying driver not be entitled to the discount. Surely this will just give c**vs a discount on getting from lakeside to bluewater.
RJ Moan, Bexley says...
2:56pm Thu 21 Feb 08
Fran wrote:I think maybe i din't explain myself properly but giving a discount to those who live in those borough's, whether they use the bridge or not just doesn't make sense, surely people who have no real choice but to drive this route on a daily basis should be entitled to some form of discount, given the tax and high prices we pay for owning a vehicle. This is where we are let down, I would not be saving 50p a crossing I would be losing 7p per crossing because the prices are put up to force us onto other roads or modes of transport that just aren't available. Other than cycling on extremely dangerous roads, taking a 3 1/2 hour journey on buses/trains or having enough money to own a boat there is no other means of me getting to work. I would happily take public transport if there was the option. So i will continue to pay high petrol prices, road tax and £2 a day to get to work as there are no other options to choose from.
RJ Moan wrote: As a government employee, travelling from Bexley to Thurrock, I will not be entitled to the discount. My journey time is currently 35mins. If i had to use the Ferry or Blackwall tunnel, although it is free, it is an extra 30mins each way, thus making my carbon foot print larger. This government really cannot see the wood for the trees. I also work with people who, for the government, travel from Surrey who need to cross the bridge, should they not be entitled to the discount?? Should every road-tax, car-insurance, MOT paying driver not be entitled to the discount. Surely this will just give c**vs a discount on getting from lakeside to bluewater.If you remember back when the plans for charges were put in place, if you have a pre-paid DART-Tag card it will increase from 93p to £1. So you will save 50p on each crossing. I am also a government employee, I didn\\\'t moan when they put the bus prices up and I certinly don\\\'t expect to get free travel. It is your choice to drive so therefore pay the price. I don\\\'t agree with the fuel increases but it is my choice to own a car.
Mmmm, says...
4:17pm Thu 21 Feb 08
Sibonetic, Plumstead says...
9:45pm Thu 21 Feb 08
RJ Moan wrote:You could move and stop moaning
Fran wrote:I think maybe i din't explain myself properly but giving a discount to those who live in those borough's, whether they use the bridge or not just doesn't make sense, surely people who have no real choice but to drive this route on a daily basis should be entitled to some form of discount, given the tax and high prices we pay for owning a vehicle. This is where we are let down, I would not be saving 50p a crossing I would be losing 7p per crossing because the prices are put up to force us onto other roads or modes of transport that just aren't available. Other than cycling on extremely dangerous roads, taking a 3 1/2 hour journey on buses/trains or having enough money to own a boat there is no other means of me getting to work. I would happily take public transport if there was the option. So i will continue to pay high petrol prices, road tax and £2 a day to get to work as there are no other options to choose from.
RJ Moan wrote: As a government employee, travelling from Bexley to Thurrock, I will not be entitled to the discount. My journey time is currently 35mins. If i had to use the Ferry or Blackwall tunnel, although it is free, it is an extra 30mins each way, thus making my carbon foot print larger. This government really cannot see the wood for the trees. I also work with people who, for the government, travel from Surrey who need to cross the bridge, should they not be entitled to the discount?? Should every road-tax, car-insurance, MOT paying driver not be entitled to the discount. Surely this will just give c**vs a discount on getting from lakeside to bluewater.If you remember back when the plans for charges were put in place, if you have a pre-paid DART-Tag card it will increase from 93p to £1. So you will save 50p on each crossing. I am also a government employee, I didn\\\'t moan when they put the bus prices up and I certinly don\\\'t expect to get free travel. It is your choice to drive so therefore pay the price. I don\\\'t agree with the fuel increases but it is my choice to own a car.
Hannan, Bexley! says...
10:54pm Thu 21 Feb 08
RJ Moan wrote:Or you could get a job closer to home!
Fran wrote:I think maybe i din't explain myself properly but giving a discount to those who live in those borough's, whether they use the bridge or not just doesn't make sense, surely people who have no real choice but to drive this route on a daily basis should be entitled to some form of discount, given the tax and high prices we pay for owning a vehicle. This is where we are let down, I would not be saving 50p a crossing I would be losing 7p per crossing because the prices are put up to force us onto other roads or modes of transport that just aren't available. Other than cycling on extremely dangerous roads, taking a 3 1/2 hour journey on buses/trains or having enough money to own a boat there is no other means of me getting to work. I would happily take public transport if there was the option. So i will continue to pay high petrol prices, road tax and £2 a day to get to work as there are no other options to choose from.RJ Moan wrote: As a government employee, travelling from Bexley to Thurrock, I will not be entitled to the discount. My journey time is currently 35mins. If i had to use the Ferry or Blackwall tunnel, although it is free, it is an extra 30mins each way, thus making my carbon foot print larger. This government really cannot see the wood for the trees. I also work with people who, for the government, travel from Surrey who need to cross the bridge, should they not be entitled to the discount?? Should every road-tax, car-insurance, MOT paying driver not be entitled to the discount. Surely this will just give c**vs a discount on getting from lakeside to bluewater.If you remember back when the plans for charges were put in place, if you have a pre-paid DART-Tag card it will increase from 93p to £1. So you will save 50p on each crossing. I am also a government employee, I didn\\\'t moan when they put the bus prices up and I certinly don\\\'t expect to get free travel. It is your choice to drive so therefore pay the price. I don\\\'t agree with the fuel increases but it is my choice to own a car.
Gemma, Belvedere says...
12:48pm Wed 27 Feb 08
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ClockWatcher, says...
12:39pm Wed 20 Feb 08
Yes it would have been nice to get a discount, but just on the other side of Bexley borough is the Woolwich river crossing - that's free already.
It also joins directly to the A13 which goes straight into Thurrock.
If people are so desperate to cross the river for free, they can get on the ferry.
...if it's working that is ;)