RESIDENTS have vowed to continue their campaign to keep a historic building as a pub.
Pub and restaurant The Tudor Barn, Well Hall Road, Eltham, was closed last month by owner Greenwich Council.
The council's plan to change the use of the historic landmark, which dates back to the 16th Century, was announced at a cabinet committee meeting on January 22 after complaints about anti-social behaviour in the surrounding gardens.
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Although the decision sparked a campaign by residents to keep the barn as a pub, it reopened as a tea room on March 17.
Greenwich Council insists the tea room is only temporary and is inviting people to make suggestions about the barn's future.
However, campaigners say the building should remain a pub.
Campaign organiser and teacher Lynne Chamberlain, 56, of Brewery Road, Plumstead said: "Let's cater for all the community. However, there are people who want to go in for a beer, not a cup of tea.
"We are going to re-ignite the campaign and we will be petitioning the council."
Folk music club Folk Mob was held at the pub and attracted 30 to 40 people of all ages every Wednesday.
Its members say they share Ms Chamberlain's disappointment at the loss of the bar facilities.
Club member Mick Woods, 52, of Chiswell Square, Kidbrooke, said: "Everyone was really gutted by the closure. There's no pubs in the area and, now it is a tea room, some of the atmosphere will be lost.
"Folk music really suits the venue and I can see the club fizzling out."
Mr Woods says he will support any petition made to the council.
Greenwich Council cabinet member for culture Councillor John Fahy said: "We've listened to what people said and have come up with a really positive use for the building."
A council spokesman said: "A decision on the long-term use of the Tudor Barn will be taken later in the year."
For further information and to submit suggestions about the future of The Tudor Barn, email tudorbarn@greenwich.gov.uk
Why do decision makers constantly ignore recidents' views and common sense when it comes to making Eltham a nice area to live? We've seen this recently with school funding, Archery Road traffic calming, the planning permission for Lidl etc., and now this. They always refer to secret reports or other "facts" that can't be verified, like in this case the alledged compplaints "in the gardens". All locals know the trouble spots that spill over to the park, but this has nothing to do with the use of the barn as a pub. Can somebody explain to me why we are being treated like this?
Why do decision makers constantly ignore recidents' views and common sense when it comes to making Eltham a nice area to live? We've seen this recently with school funding, Archery Road traffic calming, the planning permission for Lidl etc., and now this. They always refer to secret reports or other "facts" that can't be verified, like in this case the alledged compplaints "in the gardens". All locals know the trouble spots that spill over to the park, but this has nothing to do with the use of the barn as a pub. Can somebody explain to me why we are being treated like this?
well i am a local resident live opposite and i think a tea rooms is a great idea i certainly havent had no trouble since it shut and am glad, ive actually been able to sleep at weekends now no idiots coming out of pub drunk peeing up our cars and fights and vanderlising its all stopped yea ha peace at last i bet you will not find any local resident living opposite tudor campaining
well i am a local resident live opposite and i think a tea rooms is a great idea i certainly havent had no trouble since it shut and am glad, ive actually been able to sleep at weekends now no idiots coming out of pub drunk peeing up our cars and fights and vanderlising its all stopped yea ha peace at last i bet you will not find any local resident living opposite tudor campaining
Posted by: Mick, Walderslade on 8:21am Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sarah[/bold] wrote:
well i am a local resident live opposite and i think a tea rooms is a great idea i certainly havent had no trouble since it shut and am glad, ive actually been able to sleep at weekends now no idiots coming out of pub drunk peeing up our cars and fights and vanderlising its all stopped yea ha peace at last i bet you will not find any local resident living opposite tudor campaining [/quote] I Think this should be the main concern (local residents) these are the people that ultimately suffer for others enjoyment, I used to live opposite a club, always got woken up every evening at kicking out time, also my visitors had their cars broken into, was well pleased when it got shut down. Sarah, enjoy your sleep.
sarah wrote:
well i am a local resident live opposite and i think a tea rooms is a great idea i certainly havent had no trouble since it shut and am glad, ive actually been able to sleep at weekends now no idiots coming out of pub drunk peeing up our cars and fights and vanderlising its all stopped yea ha peace at last i bet you will not find any local resident living opposite tudor campaining
I Think this should be the main concern (local residents) these are the people that ultimately suffer for others enjoyment, I used to live opposite a club, always got woken up every evening at kicking out time, also my visitors had their cars broken into, was well pleased when it got shut down. Sarah, enjoy your sleep.
Posted by: Anne Boleyn, The Palace on 11:17am Mon 24 Mar 08
Sarah,
I totally agree with you. I often work in Eltham and would really enjoy a local tea room. Enjoy the peace and let's hope the pub does not re-open.
Sarah,
I totally agree with you. I often work in Eltham and would really enjoy a local tea room. Enjoy the peace and let's hope the pub does not re-open.
not everybody wants a roudy pub on there doorstep i have enjoyed manya drink over there ive lived in eltham for the pat 30 yrs and im not a old fuddy duddy its just alot nicer place for young and old to go without drunk yobs hanging around its got to be a better enviroment for children thanks for support
not everybody wants a roudy pub on there doorstep i have enjoyed manya drink over there ive lived in eltham for the pat 30 yrs and im not a old fuddy duddy its just alot nicer place for young and old to go without drunk yobs hanging around its got to be a better enviroment for children thanks for support
After reading the comments on this board along with the spelling mistakes from the people opposite the Tudor Barn, perhaps Greenwich Council should put an Education Centre in there where they could learn to spell whilst having a cup of tea.
After reading the comments on this board along with the spelling mistakes from the people opposite the Tudor Barn, perhaps Greenwich Council should put an Education Centre in there where they could learn to spell whilst having a cup of tea.
oh im ever so sorry linda didnt know it was a spelling test,and just a update come and join the tea rooms and support it its very well run ahve been there today with my mother and sisters lovely homemade quiche of which my sisters had i have a lovely large piece of homemade victoria sponge and its reasonably priced , and a education centre wouldnt be a bad idea atleast all could use it then not just drunks
oh im ever so sorry linda didnt know it was a spelling test,and just a update come and join the tea rooms and support it its very well run ahve been there today with my mother and sisters lovely homemade quiche of which my sisters had i have a lovely large piece of homemade victoria sponge and its reasonably priced , and a education centre wouldnt be a bad idea atleast all could use it then not just drunks
The anti social behaviour has not stopped it's just gone somewhere else.
Like most social problems in this country, they don't get solved they just get moved to different areas.
The anti social behaviour has not stopped it's just gone somewhere else.
Like most social problems in this country, they don't get solved they just get moved to different areas.
I have lived in eltham for the last twenty years and am devastated that the Tudor Barn is no longer a pub. i live near the well hall round about and loses not just the Welcome Inn but now the Tudor barn has been a harsh blow on the local community. I have 2 children who love coming with me to meet our friends for an enjoyable sunday after noon. Do the people of well hall deserve nothing but new flats and tea rooms that cater for the old and unemployed. also totally agree with j horndyke
I have lived in eltham for the last twenty years and am devastated that the Tudor Barn is no longer a pub. i live near the well hall round about and loses not just the Welcome Inn but now the Tudor barn has been a harsh blow on the local community. I have 2 children who love coming with me to meet our friends for an enjoyable sunday after noon. Do the people of well hall deserve nothing but new flats and tea rooms that cater for the old and unemployed. also totally agree with j horndyke
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