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Bar’s defence after murder

10:08am Thursday 26th June 2008

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By Linda Piper »

THE bar which became the scene of the murder of Harry Potter actor Robert Knox and the wounding of five other young people has been defending itself at a review of its alcohol licence.

Mr Knox, 18, of Maidstone Road, Sidcup, died from multiple stab wounds after the incident outside the Metro Bar in Station Road, Sidcup, on May 24.

But licence holder Kenneth Ryan told last Friday's review hearing: "In our opinion, the Metro Bar did nothing to cause this randomly tragic incident."

Three days after the murder, at an emergency Bexley Council licensing sub-committee hearing, police had suggested "alcohol, mixed with a young clientele, some of whom are underage, might have been the cause of this tragedy".

The bar had its licence suspended for five days, at the request of the police, "to allow tensions to diminish".

At the full licence review, Mr Ryan accepted a number of new conditions on the bar's licence.

In a statement to the sub-committee, Mr Ryan said the bar had not been the subject of any previous concerns from the police or the council.

He said: "I would feel sure any wrongdoings would be passed up the line if there was any inappropriate behaviour by people using the bar."

Mr Ryan said his staff had always ensured all customers were searched and their ID checked.

On the night Mr Knox died, Mr Ryan claimed only one underage drinker had gained entry to the bar, by using his older brother's ID.

He added: "There has been no evidence of drinks being passed through the patio and neither were our customers carrying knives or other offensive weapons, as they were patted down and body searched."

Mr Ryan said none of the other underage teenagers injured during the incident had attempted to get into the bar that night and had "sat on the wall all evening".

A number of people, including middle-aged couples who use the bar at lunchtime and students who work there, wrote in support of the bar.

But there were a number of complaints, especially about the use of the outside wall and the patio area by drinkers.

New conditions on the bar's licence include a ban on the use of the patio after 11pm, except for smoking, plus all the conditions added at the emergency hearing.

These include the use of door entry metal scanners and a ban on under-18s in the bar after 10pm during the week and 9pm at weekends.

The bar has also been told to apply for planning permission to install a fence between the pub's front patio and the adjoining public footpath.

  • Karl Bishop, aged 21, of Beaver Lodge, Carlton Road, Sidcup, will appear at the Old Bailey on September 2 charged with the murder of Mr Knox and wounding five other people with intent.

PARENTS' MEMORIAL FUND

THE parents of Robert Knox have set up a fund in memory of their teenage son.

Sally and Colin Knox have set up a memorial fund for those people who would like to make a donation instead of sending flowers to his funeral, which was due to take place today at Eltham Crematorium.

Anyone who wishes to donate can send cheques made payable to the Rob Knox Memorial Fund Account at Barclays Bank, 91 High Street, Sidcup.

After the private funeral, a memorial service is being held at St John's Church, Church Road, Sidcup.


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Mark, Dartford says...
10:56am Thu 26 Jun 08

So, there were complaints about the patio area and outside wall?
What were these?
Badly managed?

Outsider, Erith says...
11:05am Thu 26 Jun 08


Sadly Knife crime as most on here are aware is happening everywhere. Their is not anything people seem to be able to do to stop it. Did them kids who stabbed 2 people in bexleyheath 2 sat ago think oh no its not the right place to do it, so it goes to show not even outside a police station are you safe these day. RIP Rob

n.p.n, sidcup says...
11:36am Thu 26 Jun 08

knife crime is so stupid something needs 2 b done!! when rob knox was killed at the end of my road it really did effect me i was scared 2 go home on my own.i cant even look at knifes no more when i went 2 a cafe they gave me a stake knife i had 2 get my nan 2 rap it up in tissue..how many more people are going 2 feel like this..for the familys of the young people i feel so sorry for them how many people are going 2 loose a nice caring person..i allso agree when 2bois wer stabed in bexleyheath out side a POLICE STATION!! it is getting really worrieing it needs to stop now R.I.P ROB AND EVERY1 ELSE WHO HAS LOST THERE LIFEXXXX

Luciarna, Abbeywood says...
3:08pm Thu 26 Jun 08

I Am Totally Shocked At How This Young, Innocent Boy was Killed, Its Sickening. He hAD sO Much To Give, R.I.P ROB

pete beat, kent says...
8:34pm Thu 26 Jun 08

This bar is surrounded by shops selling booze, 6 cans for £4, you know the type.
Booze is to strong and to easy to buy.
We have let our society drown in its own misery.
Rob KnoX RIP

Martin, sidcup says...
11:47pm Thu 26 Jun 08

This bar is to blame. They let in under age people. they allowed someone to enter after 11.30pm, their doormen did not prevent the murderer from entering having been told he was returning with a knife. Im my opinion the bar is lucky to still have its licence. The Metro Bar has always been a place to buy & take drugs.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Court says...
11:17am Fri 27 Jun 08

Shut the eyesore down forever!

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

kayleigh, woolwich says...
11:17am Fri 27 Jun 08

RIP ROB !!!..

Pinkerbell, SE London says...
12:05pm Fri 27 Jun 08

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Shut the eyesore down forever!

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
I agree i think any place that has a stabbing or a murder should be shut down and never be able to open again.

RIP Rob you are safe now
x

anon, erith says...
3:19am Sun 29 Jun 08

make an example of this place and shut them down , it will send a good message to other bar owners , keep your place in order or face the same ...
write our MP's they will have to take note if enough write in , Derek Conway MP
is the man
and " writetothem.com " is the site to do it
don't just sit back and wait for someone else to do it ..you do it !

anon, erith says...
5:39pm Sun 29 Jun 08

while we are at it how about the death penalty , a decent penalty for murder might make these scum think twice before they take a life

Dan, Sidcup says...
11:16pm Sun 29 Jun 08

I heard otherwise.

The bouncers locked Rob Knox and his friends out, even when they were shouting that they have a knife.

It is totally the bars fault, it was on the bar's property and their bouncers should be taken to court for negligence.

hello, near by says...
12:19am Mon 30 Jun 08

Dan wrote:
I heard otherwise. The bouncers locked Rob Knox and his friends out, even when they were shouting that they have a knife. It is totally the bars fault, it was on the bar\\\'s property and their bouncers should be taken to court for negligence.
Let's look at the whole picture! What happened was awful a young person who had a promesing life in front of him was sadly taken away because of what! Because of a person who chose to arm himself with a knife. One of many problems this country faces

Was the bar to blame no-If they were the place would have closed down and friends would not still be drinking there! Was the person responsible for this crime drinking in the pub that night - no Did the crime actually happen on the pubs property - no Where there underage people in the pub that night - no Does the pub have a past of trouble - no (even though peple on here say it does. what do you really know - nothing)

The pub has a good atmosphere, especially on a Tyes, Wd & Sat and the satff/management work hard, along with the bouncers to ensure the place is safe!

This was an awful crime, and only time may heal those who are suffering.

Five Arches, Sidcup says...
11:02am Mon 30 Jun 08


Even Mr Ryan admits to one under age person in the bar. So how you can say there were none I do not Know. How many did he not admit too???

Nawty, dartford says...
4:03pm Wed 2 Jul 08

I thought the desceased was defending his 16 years old brother.

Mark, says...
9:38pm Wed 2 Jul 08

Jamie Knox was 17 I think rather 16...that was another boy.


zena, swanley says...
5:00pm Mon 7 Jul 08

whats it matter how old the boy was, rob died from protecting his brother. he's a hero!!! R.I.P

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