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Bar closed to curb tension after stabbing

10:51am Wednesday 28th May 2008

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By Linda Piper »

THE Sidcup bar where teenage actor Rob Knox was stabbed to death has had its drinks licence suspended for a week to "allow tensions to diminish."

Bexley police made an interim application for the temporary closure of the Metro Bar in Station Road, Sidcup, at a hastily convened emergency meeting of Bexley Council's licensing sub-committee at the civic offices in Bexleyheath Broadway last night.

When it reopens next Tuesday (June 2) the bar will have to abide by new licensing conditions.

These include the use of hand-held metal detectors on customers entering the bar, to check for weapons such as knives.

Mr Knox, aged 18, of Maidstone Road, Sidcup, was killed and five others were injured in the incident outside the bar.

In the interim application, presented by Bexley police's licensing officer PC Eddy Boston, police stated: "Police would suggest that alcohol, mixed with a young clientele, some of whom are underage, might have been a cause of this terrible tragedy."

The application continued: "As a result of the murder and woundings, tension is high throughout Sidcup.

"Police are of the opinion that if the premises were open to the public, it may be a flashpoint for further incidents of serious crime and disorder."

Other conditions imposed by the licensing sub-committee include the requirement for customers who look under the age of 25 to produce ID and a ban on the sale of alcohol if the bar's upgraded CCTV system is not in operation.

A full review of the licence will take place on June 20.

Karl Bishop, aged 21, of Beaver Lodge, Carlton Road, Sidcup, appeared before Bexley Magistrates Court yesterday, charged with the murder of Mr Knox and five charges of wounding with intent.

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Jayne, Bromley says...
11:10am Wed 28 May 08

And So the rules and reg's should remain and be extended to all premises where young people gather.

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Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru, The Armchair says...
12:01pm Wed 28 May 08

Close the dive down for good, not just for a week.

Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

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A, says...
12:13pm Wed 28 May 08

Do you really think shutting this dive down for a week is going to make any difference, only way is to shut it down permanently.

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S, Sidcup says...
1:05pm Wed 28 May 08

This place has always had a reputation and attracted trouble, even back when it was the Iron Horse. I agree bulldoze it, preferably with some of the clientelle still in it.

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bb, Sidcup says...
1:07pm Wed 28 May 08

Just because under 25s are asked for ID, doesn't mean that the ID provided will be legitimate.
You would be surprised at the extent of underage drinking in commercial premises, catered for by the wide availability of fake ID

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J***, London says...
1:07pm Wed 28 May 08

R.I.P Rob! i no what it feels like to lose someone close to you because its happened to me! People that do this are just idoits! The ones that are gone will never be missed!! x

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27, Sidcup says...
1:59pm Wed 28 May 08

It should at least lost its 1am licence - I can't believe out of all the bars in Sidcup, this trouble-ridden dive is the only one with its opening hours extended beyond midnight. Ridiculous. I'd love to see the place closed for good, but unfortunately they'll only go elsewhere - probably to the few places I like socialising in the area.

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Sidcup drinker, Sidcup says...
2:13pm Wed 28 May 08

I blame the "Bouncers". If they had done their job, Rob would still be alive. Now thanks to their lazy attitudes, i have to find somewhere else to drink.

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Debbie, Bex;ley says...
2:27pm Wed 28 May 08

This pub needs to be closed for good, my x-partner was bottled in this pub about 8 years ago when it was called the Iron Horse, the pub has always had a bad name for trouble, how can you give a pub back a license that has always had trouble around it!!! Wake up! how many more lives need to be taken before something is done!

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., Sidcup says...
3:21pm Wed 28 May 08

Debbie wrote:
This pub needs to be closed for good, my x-partner was bottled in this pub about 8 years ago when it was called the Iron Horse, the pub has always had a bad name for trouble, how can you give a pub back a license that has always had trouble around it!!! Wake up! how many more lives need to be taken before something is done!
Debbie, closing the pub won't do anything. The idiots will just find somewhere else to cause trouble. The British Justice system is a shambles, so the Government needs to address that, to put these idiots off causing trouble. They just get a slap on the wrist and thats it. Also, the parents need to be educated on how to teach their kids respect for others.

If you went round closing every pub where there's been trouble, there'd be nowhere left for civilised people to drink.

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Ali, Bromley says...
3:46pm Wed 28 May 08

R.i.P i kno what it feels like to lose someone close becos of a knife. BUT u cant go blamin the BOUNCERS as their job isnt to look after the punters, they are not babysitters! it is a tragic yet again another kid is killed but even if a bouncer had got involved just like the other boys he would have been stabbed... too many ppl are scared these days to jump in and help ppl out. do u blame them?! i hope justice comes to rob n robs parents. i would just like to see something being done about it! before we lose anymore Ppl over Knifes and Guns!

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Can Crusher, London says...
3:54pm Wed 28 May 08

The solution is to create a place where people that like to carry guns and knives can go to let off some steam and leave normal people alone. It would solve so many problems! I say give the pub its license leave them to it......

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me, Dartford says...
4:29pm Wed 28 May 08

RIP ROB
They should bring back hanging its what the scum who commit these sort of crimes deserve,they also need to give toughter sentences for people who carry knifes if your willing to carry a knife you are willing to use it STOP CARRYING KNIFES
My condolences to the family

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anon, says...
4:50pm Wed 28 May 08

the 1am licence should be removed.

if it was known that customers were under age why were they let in why were they served?

why dont all pubs/clubs have hand held metal detectors?

if the bouncers were told there was going to be trouble why did the bar remain open why were the police not called sooner?

was there a problem with the cctv if its being upgraded??


lives put at risk for
what ?? profits

even if all these proposed measures are put in place the culture needs to be changed, why do people need to carry weapons life has become so cheap there is no deterent that's even if they are caught!!!!

r.i.p rob, my thoughts are with your family and friends.

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Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The Angry, The Study says...
4:51pm Wed 28 May 08

I ask the politicians outright what they are going to do about all this uncontrolled violence in my blog in the Your Shopper section:

COME ON, WE ARE WAITNG!
Posted by Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott at 12:07am today.

Please leave a comment on the blog and tell the politicians and councillors exactly what you think and I will make sure they read it.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

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Reader, Of the News Shopper says...
4:51pm Wed 28 May 08

They should bring back hanging its what the scum who commit these sort of crimes deserve

Couldn't agree more "Me", been saying it for years, it's a great deterrent and in theory will reduce the amount of crime in this country. Thugs that go around stabbing are most of the time off their head on drugs aswell but drugs are something that has got completely out of control - something has to be done, we can't go on living like this and it's all happening so close to home
My thought are with family and friends of Rob

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Ellie, says...
5:23pm Wed 28 May 08

Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
I am surprised You know what the place is like ?

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Agog, Kent says...
5:24pm Wed 28 May 08

How far are people expecting the pubs jurisdiction to extend to? He didn't get into the pub! Perhaps the expectation is that pubs should provide stop and search facilities on anyone entering - where shall we say - the High Street!

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Stop Scaremongering, Sidcup says...
5:29pm Wed 28 May 08

Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott please be quiet. The young people that frequent The Metro Bar are mainly students and there is hardly any trouble there now and hasn't been for a few years. The trouble was caused by young people who usually do not use the pub and were not regulars. I feel sorry for you if in the past you had a problem in the pub but that was in the past. If you want to check the area for problem premises check the high street. And by the way who made you a Lord. I believe that to be a title bestowed upon someone not given to themselves.

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Steve, says...
7:12pm Wed 28 May 08

The pub will just comply with the conditions, for a while, then it'll be back to chaos as usual

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James, Staring in horror at this report says...
7:19pm Wed 28 May 08

"Police would suggest that alcohol, mixed with a young clientele, some of whom are underage, might have been a cause of this terrible tragedy."

Oh dear, obviously the Police did bugger all before this terrible murder although they were clearly aware and had concerns.

I would suggest that Police could have easily implemented a few measures before this poor boy was murdered to prevent this crime.

Sounds a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. No change there with either Bexley Council or the inept fools who Police that area.

Now I wonder whether this tragedy could have been avoided if someone had simply bothered to pull their finger out before another young life was snubbed out?

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Paul Evans, Sidcup says...
8:08pm Wed 28 May 08

When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.

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Jo, St Pauls Cray says...
10:15pm Wed 28 May 08

Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
You are really getting on my nerves (you seem to not live in the real world) get a life and stop commenting on other peoples misfortunes (wake up ans smell the S''T)

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name, here says...
10:18pm Wed 28 May 08

i think that if the metro closes the trouble will just move on to all the other pubs and bars in and around sidcup. if they closed every pub where there was violence and crimes where would everyopne drink and socialise?

in the reports Karl wasnt actually drinking in the pub and the murder happened outside. it really is a tragic loss of life and i feel the greatest sympathy for Robs family and friends.

I definately think that something needs to be done about the bouncers though. people should be searched EVERYTIME they enter the bar regardless of if they had been drinking in there and then left and returned. the times i have been to the metro gone in, had a drink, popped across the road to the shop and returned and been let straight back in without being searched. theres alot of people who do that who knows what else they are bringin in to the pub.

You can normally have quite a good nite in the metro, most of the rows and fights happen after closing time and near the station and bus stops, would u like to bulldoze them too?

RIP Rob

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Jo, St pauls Cray says...
10:19pm Wed 28 May 08

Paul Evans wrote:
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
You are another one let people grieve for pittens sake one day you may lose someone close to you and you may want to grieve where ever that person died (as for larking about they are teenagers) was you never a teenager !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sidcup Local, Sidcup says...
10:47pm Wed 28 May 08

With out wishing to sound harsh Paul is correct, obviously there are people going to the site to grieve but there is also an element of youngsters going there because of the attention the area is receiving. This element is the same element that used to terrorise people waiting for the buses outside the Tesco by the stations and not true friends of relatives of the deceased.

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a mum, says...
10:48pm Wed 28 May 08

Well said Jo!
Let them grieve in their own way. For some of these youngsters it maybe the first experience of a death of a close friend and so tragically at that. The flowers and balloons, etc are doing no harm, they just show what a remarkable person Rob was and that he was much loved by all his friends.
RIP Rob xxx

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Tanya, Bexley says...
10:50pm Wed 28 May 08

This pub has always been well known for underage drinkers.I have been there on a Friday night,it is more like a kids youth club,if it gets its licence back then it needs to be monitored very closely,why are all pubs not given these knife detectors, at the end of the day its the magistrates who need to get real, that is prosecute everyone carrying knives, give the police back their powers,stop parents shirking their responsibilities, it begins at home,no respect,kids have been too spoilt,they do not rule the streets the police do, and they all need to learn respect,who cares if kids get upset because police are turning out their pockets, it may keep your child safe !heart goes out to robs family,

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Sue, Bromley says...
10:52pm Wed 28 May 08

Why shouldn't the pub management take some of the responsibility for what happened? They employ bouncers for a reason. So if this thing charged with murder had been checked on the way in to the pub the knives may have been found?
Also why are there underage people in there? Surely the management should take the responsibility for that.
There are so many pubs/clubs in Bromley and surrounding areas that allow underage drinkers in I find it amazing that it's allowed to go on.

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Mark, says...
10:56pm Wed 28 May 08

Sidcup Local wrote:
With out wishing to sound harsh Paul is correct, obviously there are people going to the site to grieve but there is also an element of youngsters going there because of the attention the area is receiving. This element is the same element that used to terrorise people waiting for the buses outside the Tesco by the stations and not true friends of relatives of the deceased.
The vast marjority of people probably are paying their respects but you may well get a few people hanging around.


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Tom, says...
10:57pm Wed 28 May 08

a mum wrote:
Well said Jo! Let them grieve in their own way. For some of these youngsters it maybe the first experience of a death of a close friend and so tragically at that. The flowers and balloons, etc are doing no harm, they just show what a remarkable person Rob was and that he was much loved by all his friends. RIP Rob xxx
Agreed...if there are a few casuing problems or showing disrepect just ignore them but I know a lot of people of all ages are thinking of Rob and hais family.

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R.I.P ROB KNOXS, says...
1:32am Thu 29 May 08

Paul Evans wrote:
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
DO YOU NOT HAVE A HART YOU SICK PERSON ALL THESES PEOPLE ARE GRIEVEING YOU IF THERE ARE LOADS OF PEOPLE THERE DOESNT IT SHOW HOW MUCH ROB WAS LOVED BY ALL I HOPE YOU FIND IT HARD TO SLEEP AT NITE YOU HARTLESS CREEP

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Sidcup Local, Local says...
6:42am Thu 29 May 08

I agree totally, most people are honestly showing their respect with flowers and balloons etc and apart from the odd one's there is no problem, though I am not sure graffitiing the railway bridge with "RIP Rob" in spray paint is the correct way to show grief. But like so many other things the few always seem to spoil it for the ones that really care.

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Curious, says...
8:18am Thu 29 May 08

If contributers making comments knew this pub was a well known trouble spot for at least 8 years I assume they made their concerns known to the appropriate authorities?

The same with the alleged underage drinkers, did contributers who witnessed it draw it to the attention of the owners?

Did any of those who feel it should have been closed down ever register their opposition to any licence renewals or extensions over the years?

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Mark Abbott, Sidcup says...
9:19am Thu 29 May 08

Paul Evans wrote:
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Well paul if you are a sidcup resident you are an heartless one. These teenagers are coming to terms with the death of a friend or acquaintance or just someone they recognised on the street - some cant belive it has happened - so sorry if a few balloons and flowers and hanging around annoys you well tough because in your area there have been 2 stabbings
so s** your upper class attitude and lets hope the kid are there for a few weeks yet .
I went there with my daughter and they are just talking about rob and trying to cope

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Sidcup Local, Local says...
9:31am Thu 29 May 08

And graffitiing - though I know thats the exception!
I have no problem with the flowers and tributes etc but if the kids can't accept the law in a time like this when will they.

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anita, dartford says...
10:03am Thu 29 May 08

I think the kids hanging around outside Somerfield really dont know what to do next, they are very young to have lost a friend, I don't think they thought for one minute that a friend of theirs would die at such an early age and don't forget he was murdered, and for some of them it's probably the first time they have lost somebody close. We all grieve in different ways.

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JS, Sidcup says...
10:18am Thu 29 May 08

I Agree with Paul. Most of the people now hanging around are trouble makers. I have noticed some of the graffitiing and really not paying much respect. It does seem to be the place to hang around and cause trouble at the moment.... Move them along.......

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PG, Sidcup says...
10:51am Thu 29 May 08

JS wrote:
I Agree with Paul. Most of the people now hanging around are trouble makers. I have noticed some of the graffitiing and really not paying much respect. It does seem to be the place to hang around and cause trouble at the moment.... Move them along.......
I agree. I wanted to go into Somerfield last night after getting off the train, and found it very intimidating. If Tesco's had been open, i would have gone there instead. There's 1.. yes only 1 community police officer standing there, yet there were at least 20 youths there. What good is 1 officer going to be if anything kicks off. It doesn't help that it is half term and they have no where to go. I agree with earlier comments. They've had their time to grieve. Time to let things get back to normal.

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not tonight gents, orpington says...
11:04am Thu 29 May 08

bb wrote:
Just because under 25s are asked for ID, doesn\'t mean that the ID provided will be legitimate. You would be surprised at the extent of underage drinking in commercial premises, catered for by the wide availability of fake ID
yes but door staff and pub managers are wise to tis and now days most door staff if they suspect the id will check it for the uv markings which is an excellent way of telling fakes so i dont think this would be the case

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not tonight gents, says...
11:12am Thu 29 May 08

Hannah wrote:
90% of the clientele at the metro are lovely people. Unfortunatly you get the occasional scum bag like Kyle Bishop (who was not a regular)as does every pub!! closing the metro wont make any difference, the scum bags will still appear.
make you totally 100 percent right if it was to shut they would appear in the portrait hogs head and ye olde black horse so closing it wont make any difference

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Lizzielooloo, says...
11:15am Thu 29 May 08

Well said Anita

Let the young people have this site to take the time they need to grieve, after everything that has happened I am sure the last thing on their minds is to cause trouble. I am sure as time passes, life can get back to some normality, but for the time being let the family and friends do their grieving in their own way.

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RASHERS, Bexley says...
11:21am Thu 29 May 08

It makes me laugh that people are shouting "shut the dive down"...do you even know the real story?? or are you taking what the news of the screws is reporting??most probably the latter. perhaps if you knew the real story you would realise that the bar did everything in its power to prevent this happening...is it their fault that the police failed to act on information that was passed to them before this tragic event...and lord whatever you name, what a complete joke, you need to get yourself out more and realise that 99% of ppl in the metro are there to have a good time and enjoy a good relationship with the management and/or staff, as usual its the minority ruining it for the majority...in fact the scum who committed this crime wasn't even in the bar!!
The police blaming the bar is just there way of hiding their errors in the handling of the situation. And for those wondering why the police weren't called earlier they were..is it the bars fault they did nothing about it???
as for the underage drinkers, i know the bar is very strict on this with a policy of anyone looking under 21 to be ID'd and when possible try to police outside the bar to ensure that people are not buying alcohol for underage people..however again when asking the police for assistance in moving underage people or troublemakers on they get no help.
so before you come out with your pitchforks and torches looking for a scapegoat and blaming the Metro bar, perhaps you should consider that nobody is to blame apart from the scum/cowards that carry knives.

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pinky, chislehurst says...
11:23am Thu 29 May 08

Having been in the metro on a reguar basis i can honestly say that the bouncers and bar staff do id anyone who looks 'young'. what is the point of closing one pub their is trouble everywhere not just in the metro have you driven through bexleyheath or bromley at kicking out time????

trouble will happen anywhere i think that is obvious from what has been happening in todays society. clearly people are trying to blame someone or something. try the murdering scum who carry knives and go out with the intent to kill.

as for PAUL EVANS are you being serious????? some of the people outside are the ones who were with the people who were murdedred/injured and held the knife man until the police arrived they are lost and dont know what to do or where to go. theses youngsters have images that they can never erase allow them to grieve for their friend without the likes of you making pathetic comments.

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Sidcup Local, Local says...
11:28am Thu 29 May 08

Lizzieloo - Do you live in Sidcup? The people hanging round there are not close friends and family as per the begining of the week. I doubt whether this young mans close friends and family would scale a railway bridge with fast flowing traffic underneath to spray paint the bridge in graffiti.

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PG, Sidcup says...
12:57pm Thu 29 May 08

I have just read that Sidcup Library has opened up a book of condolence. Good idea, but just another place for these hoodies to hang around and intimidate people. Come on Bexley Council, give them something constructive to do during half term.

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clare, sidcup says...
1:34pm Thu 29 May 08

The night Rob knox was killed there was rumours that men were coming down with knifes. Rob and his friends told the bouncers and they simply told them "not to worry."

If they had done their job they would have called the police and Rob may still be here today.

Something needs to be done fast, and if they had these detectors for knifes originally that would also have helped!

I'm not going back to that place again.

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george, sidcup says...
2:50pm Thu 29 May 08

Sue wrote:
Why shouldn\'t the pub management take some of the responsibility for what happened? They employ bouncers for a reason. So if this thing charged with murder had been checked on the way in to the pub the knives may have been found? Also why are there underage people in there? Surely the management should take the responsibility for that. There are so many pubs/clubs in Bromley and surrounding areas that allow underage drinkers in I find it amazing that it\'s allowed to go on.
The doormen had barred this individual a week before and he was not allowed to enter the premises.You may want to ask why the police did not search him when told of him ?I.D checks are stringent at the metro bar but if someone has a brothers passport who is two years older,what do you suggest then ?Please do not believe all you read in the paper.

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george, sidcup says...
2:57pm Thu 29 May 08

clare wrote:
The night Rob knox was killed there was rumours that men were coming down with knifes. Rob and his friends told the bouncers and they simply told them "not to worry." If they had done their job they would have called the police and Rob may still be here today. Something needs to be done fast, and if they had these detectors for knifes originally that would also have helped! I'm not going back to that place again.
The police were called 30 minutes before it happened,dont believe all you read in the papers

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george, sidcup says...
3:08pm Thu 29 May 08

Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
Thanks for those costructive views !

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george, sidcup says...
3:22pm Thu 29 May 08

Steve wrote:
The pub will just comply with the conditions, for a while, then it'll be back to chaos as usual
the pub will comply and work with the council and policw forever !to try to make sure another tragic incident doesn't happen outside again

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Bill, Sidcup says...
4:53pm Thu 29 May 08

Some of the comments on here are a disgace, Oh I felt intimiated so couodnt go shopping, blah blah.
If these grief stricken teenagers were doing anything wrong they would be moved on by the police. I am a Sidcup resident and have been for over 30 years - I have teenage granchildren and have past the scene in my car many times. They are not intimadating they look lost and are meeting others there. remember it is half term and this killing is still very raw for them.

I presume it is comments from the snobby sidcup residents who would rather this young man was killed somewhere else so as not to effect the price of
their chalet homes.

Rant over

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Don Logan, says...
5:28pm Thu 29 May 08

Well said Bill.

Bloody morons

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Sidcup Local, Local says...
7:04pm Thu 29 May 08

Bill I understand what you saying but surely you can't say that spray painting the bridge with grafitti is an act of grief. We complain the kids these days do not know any boundries and here is a prime example.
Please note I do not object to the ballons, flowers and gathering....just vandalism in the name of remberance.

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anniemac, sidcup says...
8:37pm Thu 29 May 08

" Metro Bar a rough pub " I have drank in the Metro Bar since 1996 when it was called the Iron Horse and I can saftley say it has NEVER been "ROUGH".

It is a friendly welcoming pub with regular customers, many of whom are from the local collages and drama schools. This is not a pub for underage drinkers as everyones ID is checked even mine at age 28.

As for the comment on sending the bulldozers in with people inside YOU ARE SICK ! there is a family living above there with a baby !

Instead of blaming the pub maybe you should take a closer look at "BROKEN BRITAIN" The bad policing and leanient laws in the this country is where to lay the blame.

It frightens me to think what Britain will be like when my children grow up !

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mwah, dartford says...
12:01am Fri 30 May 08

Go Anniemac!!!! totally agree "Broken Britain" this country is now completely shagged.. i feel ashamed to be british when abroad

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Ali, Bromley says...
4:35pm Fri 30 May 08

Why are all these comment about you lot!!! it suprises me how selfish most of u r!! im glad the youths are havin where he died its respect!! you was a teen ones! GET OVER IT your views dont count!! R I P ROB xxx

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GOD, UP ERE says...
12:05am Sun 1 Jun 08

Ali wrote:
Why are all these comment about you lot!!! it suprises me how selfish most of u r!! im glad the youths are havin where he died its respect!! you was a teen ones! GET OVER IT your views dont count!! R I P ROB xxx
Mmmm, your views are worth reading you TW%T. The only thing worth anything is RIP ROB.

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GOD, UP ERE says...
12:31am Tue 3 Jun 08

Just read some of the messages on the Somerfield board. Did anyone see the message" Never back down ". Mmmmmmmmm. Interesting!!!!

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Mark, says...
4:40pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Paul Evans wrote:
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Rob's Mum/Dad and friends have spent the day taking some of the tributes and messages of support away from said area as memories of their son.

Now you can get on with your life as you wish...

Just hope you never have to do the same thing.



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Sam, says...
4:54pm Tue 3 Jun 08

Rob's friends are thinking of creating a memorial at the place where Rob lost his life which I think its a lovely idea as a mark of remembrance if the local council allow it.

http://www.facebook.
com/topic.php?uid=19
432677175&topic=6168


Gone but not forgotten Rob!