Political war on streets of Bromley over leaflet delivery

Deputy leader of Bromley Council Councillor Colin Smith (left) is battling with Lewisham West and Penge MP Jim Dowd (right) Deputy leader of Bromley Council Councillor Colin Smith (left) is battling with Lewisham West and Penge MP Jim Dowd (right)

A POLITICAL war has broken out on the streets of Bromley over the delivery of leaflets.

It comes after a Boris Johnson election pamphlet was delivered at the same time as Bromley Council’s Environment Matters leaflet.

This was due to an error by the distribution company London Letterbox Marketing which has written to the affected households and disciplined its staff.

But despite it being an error out of the control of Bromley Council and the Conservative Party, the Labour MP for Lewisham West and Penge Jim Dowd referred it to the council’s chief internal auditor.

He says he is also considering referring the matter to the Audit Commission.

At the same time councillors are threatening to refer him to the parliamentary standards commissioner for “deliberately spreading misinformation which he either knows, or should know is totally untrue”.

The portfolio holder for the environment Councillor Colin Smith, whose department produces the Environment Matters newsletter, says the MP knew it was a simple error before he put out his press release.

And now the deputy leader of Bromley Council is calling on Mr Dowd to apologise.

Cllr Smith said: “MPs have a moral and professional duty to uphold high standards at all times and not engage in pathetic political muck raking for their own parochial gain in the run up to elections.

“Quite why Mr Dowd chose to act in such a low manner after his councillors had been advised two days previously as to the facts of the matter is something he may wish to explain or justify.

“I’m not holding my breath, but when you’re caught red handed spreading falsehoods as he has been, a public apology is normally the most civilised and easiest way to resolve the matter.”

Mr Dowd said: “The rotten borough that is Bromley Council is not used to being called to account.

“They’ve been found out and they don’t like it.

“I will be pursuing this matter in parliament and with the auditors.”

Comments(20)

BickleyBoy says...
12:28pm Tue 17 Apr 12

What a load of nonsense over nothing!

The council pay a firm to deliver leaflets for them, Meridian pay the firm to deliver their glossy magazine, the estate agents pay the firm to deliver their adverts, the pizza firm pay the same firm to deliver their menus and the Boris campaign pay the firm to deliver (yet another!) Boris leaflet. All the leaflets get delivered at the same time and they all go into the recycling at the same time but some loony lefty chooses to make a fuss over nothing!

Jim Dowd should find better things to do with his time!

The Gypo Returns !! says...
12:35pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Thats just about right though for a socialist, spending and wasting someone elses money.

He aint paying so he don't give a F.

glenn_london says...
12:58pm Tue 17 Apr 12

What absolute rubbish, I bet most people didn't read either of them anyway. It's this sort of crass stupidity that costs us a fortune.

bnorther says...
3:45pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Jim Dowd needs to stop throwing his toys out of the pram.

Whilst I totally understand why there are rules about council leaflets and election leaflets being separate - everyone involved has realised it was just a good old fashioned balls up, no conspiracy etc. Everyone has said sorry, it shouldn't happen again.

Move on.

bnorther says...
3:50pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Ohh whilst we were at it Jim, how was the free flower show paid for by the tobacco industry?

Did they have a little word in your ear about plain fag packets?

goldenbroomboy says...
4:46pm Tue 17 Apr 12

BickleyBoy wrote:
What a load of nonsense over nothing! The council pay a firm to deliver leaflets for them, Meridian pay the firm to deliver their glossy magazine, the estate agents pay the firm to deliver their adverts, the pizza firm pay the same firm to deliver their menus and the Boris campaign pay the firm to deliver (yet another!) Boris leaflet. All the leaflets get delivered at the same time and they all go into the recycling at the same time but some loony lefty chooses to make a fuss over nothing! Jim Dowd should find better things to do with his time!
I complained about the Boris leaflet being enclosed within official council literature, to the NS, and to my local councillor. Using public funding for partisan leaflets is not a minor matter. Not everybody who lives in the Bromley borough supports Tory politicians, and not everybody considers an abuse of public money to be "a fuss over nothing".

Cllr Colin Smith says...
4:54pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Setting aside the fact that complaining about the Council was inappropriate, as the decision was taking solely by London letterbox operatives (who have since apologised in writting and the NS have a copy of their letter), no public money was spent on the Environment Matters leaflet either (it's sponsored by Veolia) so that's another false assertion and excuse I'm afraid.

ps I'm not 'BickleyBoy' either although he talks much sense !

bnorther says...
5:35pm Tue 17 Apr 12

goldenbroomboy wrote:
BickleyBoy wrote:
What a load of nonsense over nothing! The council pay a firm to deliver leaflets for them, Meridian pay the firm to deliver their glossy magazine, the estate agents pay the firm to deliver their adverts, the pizza firm pay the same firm to deliver their menus and the Boris campaign pay the firm to deliver (yet another!) Boris leaflet. All the leaflets get delivered at the same time and they all go into the recycling at the same time but some loony lefty chooses to make a fuss over nothing! Jim Dowd should find better things to do with his time!
I complained about the Boris leaflet being enclosed within official council literature, to the NS, and to my local councillor. Using public funding for partisan leaflets is not a minor matter. Not everybody who lives in the Bromley borough supports Tory politicians, and not everybody considers an abuse of public money to be "a fuss over nothing".
I don't support Tory's, but it has been explained that it was a balls up by a private company. No public funding was used, and it was all just a small mess.

Stop trying to gain political gain from a minor screw up that everyone has apologised for.

JessicaM says...
5:44pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Erm...wasn't this in The Bromley Times weeks ago?
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goldenbroomboy says...
5:46pm Tue 17 Apr 12

bnorther wrote:
goldenbroomboy wrote:
BickleyBoy wrote: What a load of nonsense over nothing! The council pay a firm to deliver leaflets for them, Meridian pay the firm to deliver their glossy magazine, the estate agents pay the firm to deliver their adverts, the pizza firm pay the same firm to deliver their menus and the Boris campaign pay the firm to deliver (yet another!) Boris leaflet. All the leaflets get delivered at the same time and they all go into the recycling at the same time but some loony lefty chooses to make a fuss over nothing! Jim Dowd should find better things to do with his time!
I complained about the Boris leaflet being enclosed within official council literature, to the NS, and to my local councillor. Using public funding for partisan leaflets is not a minor matter. Not everybody who lives in the Bromley borough supports Tory politicians, and not everybody considers an abuse of public money to be "a fuss over nothing".
I don't support Tory's, but it has been explained that it was a balls up by a private company. No public funding was used, and it was all just a small mess. Stop trying to gain political gain from a minor screw up that everyone has apologised for.
It was not a "small" matter at all, it could have had very serious repercussions. As for "political gain", as I have written before on these boards I will not be voting for either of the faces of "Ben".

The Gypo Returns !! says...
6:45pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Please vote though people, lets deny the racist BNP their 5% they are so desperate for.
They are just praying for a low turn out.

Excalibur says...
8:36pm Tue 17 Apr 12

Although I have crossed swords with Councillor Smith on many occasions, I'm with him on this one. It was simply a mess up by the distribution company, who have since hels their hands up and apologised.

The fact that Jim Dowd is trying to make political capital out of this shows he's nothing more than a chancer.

For Dowd to claim that Bromley Council aren't used to being called to account is laughable. Hello pot, kettle etc! This is the man who voted strongly for the illegal war in Iraq and voted against there being any investigation into it! He is clearly a man who hates eing called to account himself.

Sling your hook Dowd, back to the Lewisham slums.

goldenbroomboy says...
8:30am Fri 20 Apr 12

Excalibur wrote:
Although I have crossed swords with Councillor Smith on many occasions, I'm with him on this one. It was simply a mess up by the distribution company, who have since hels their hands up and apologised. The fact that Jim Dowd is trying to make political capital out of this shows he's nothing more than a chancer. For Dowd to claim that Bromley Council aren't used to being called to account is laughable. Hello pot, kettle etc! This is the man who voted strongly for the illegal war in Iraq and voted against there being any investigation into it! He is clearly a man who hates eing called to account himself. Sling your hook Dowd, back to the Lewisham slums.
OK Jim is perhaps putting on the style a bit, but remember that he is the first non Tory MP to represent any part of the current Bromley borough since Charles Wyckham Martin lost in 1859. He will not be representing Penge after 2015 since the Boundary Commission have recommended reversing their changes of ten years ago & returning Penge to Beckenham. If they had left the boundaries alone then Orpington would have been spared the final four years of John "Thunderbolt" Horam.

The Real Gypo says...
9:53am Fri 20 Apr 12

The Gypo Returns !! wrote:
Please vote though people, lets deny the racist BNP their 5% they are so desperate for. They are just praying for a low turn out.
What are YOU scared of sonny? will the world come to a sudden end if they get Carlos elected?Wll pubs shut down overnight?Sporting venues be banned?Theatres closed down?people look you are frightened of crossing the road!Lol
This country needs alternative elected members' of other parties to keep the main 3 on their toes because at the moment there is not much between LabConLibs they may as well all merge under the same banner as "Organised corruption"
LMFO!

Justin Case3 says...
10:26am Fri 20 Apr 12

I keep seeing comments from marxist bullies telling us not to vote for this candidate or that candidate... after seeing the bickering & smears by the main candidates about their "hidden" finances i shouldn't wonder if the smaller parties gain from the in-fighting plus there will probably be a low turn out as people are fed up with the lies, spin, and smears of the main 3....

The Gypo Returns ! says...
12:00pm Fri 20 Apr 12

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

I have to admit I watched Carlos or should I say "Manuel" last night. ROFL. He has NO chance NO CHANCE !!

You vote for who ya like though that's a Democracy. I think almost everyone will see it as a joke that the anti immigration party want to elect an immigrant with more than a little bit of an accent. Lets not go there about his Argentinian sympathies, or his posts in sex contact magazines.
Hypocrisy !!!

PaulErith says...
1:12pm Fri 20 Apr 12

goldenbroomboy wrote:
bnorther wrote:
goldenbroomboy wrote:
BickleyBoy wrote: What a load of nonsense over nothing! The council pay a firm to deliver leaflets for them, Meridian pay the firm to deliver their glossy magazine, the estate agents pay the firm to deliver their adverts, the pizza firm pay the same firm to deliver their menus and the Boris campaign pay the firm to deliver (yet another!) Boris leaflet. All the leaflets get delivered at the same time and they all go into the recycling at the same time but some loony lefty chooses to make a fuss over nothing! Jim Dowd should find better things to do with his time!
I complained about the Boris leaflet being enclosed within official council literature, to the NS, and to my local councillor. Using public funding for partisan leaflets is not a minor matter. Not everybody who lives in the Bromley borough supports Tory politicians, and not everybody considers an abuse of public money to be "a fuss over nothing".
I don't support Tory's, but it has been explained that it was a balls up by a private company. No public funding was used, and it was all just a small mess. Stop trying to gain political gain from a minor screw up that everyone has apologised for.
It was not a "small" matter at all, it could have had very serious repercussions. As for "political gain", as I have written before on these boards I will not be voting for either of the faces of "Ben".
There's bigger things to worry about than getting some leaflet incorrectly delivered. Mistake was made - that's it. No point wasting public time and money saying any more.

Angela M says...
5:06pm Fri 20 Apr 12

The other day I received leaflets from two different takeaways AT THE SAME TIME. They are clearly in cahoots, so I don't feel safe ordering from either of them. After destroying the leaflets in a controlled explosion, I put on my tin-foil hat and retreated to the basement.

Brian Sewer3 says...
10:31am Mon 23 Apr 12

What happ in france yest yar haha har ha

The Gypo Returns ! says...
12:07pm Mon 23 Apr 12

No worries about France weasel face Tone, they are like the Italians, they will no doubt surrender tomorrow. Well it all depends what way the wind is blowing of course.

tHaNk yOU

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