SWANLEY: Residents say BNP councillor has 'done nothing' for the area (From News Shopper)
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SWANLEY: Residents say BNP councillor has 'done nothing' for the area
7:00am Monday 28th September 2009 in News Exclusive By Michael Purton
A BNP councillor has done nothing for his ward since being elected, residents and councillors say.
Paul Golding was voted in as councillor for the Swanley St Mary’s ward of Sevenoaks District Council in February after being the first ever British National Party member to stand in the area.
At the time the 27-year-old said his success was down to a “professional and pro-active campaign knocking on every door in Swanley” and the promise of “change for the area”.
He said: “Native British people are sick of being treated like second-class citizens in their own country.
“They are bottom of the list for council houses after asylum seekers and foreigners.
“I will do my best to sort out the problems.”
However, a council spokesman said Cllr Golding has not joined any council committees, which make decisions on key issues in Swanley.
And residents of the St Mary’s ward say he has not been in touch with them since the election or championed their concerns to the council.
John Dudley, of St Mary’s Road, said: “The only time I saw him was when he was canvassing - they really put the pressure on and were here every day.
“But since then we have not heard anything from him.”
The 73-year-old added: “He should be doing more to represent the ward and find out what the people want.”
Cherry Avenue resident Ronald Gasson, 76, agreed, saying: “In my opinion he only showed interest in us to get votes and doesn’t care about us now he’s been elected.”
Labour councillor for the Swanley St Mary’s ward John Underwood says he has seen no evidence of Cllr Golding being active in the area.
He said: “He is not on any committees, doesn’t say anything at full council meetings and constituents have told me he is hard to reach, so I don’t see how he can be making a difference.”
Conservative councillor for the Swanley Christchurch and Swanley Village ward Robert Brookbank said he has only seen Cllr Golding at full council meetings.
He said: “I’m not sure he has done anything.”
Cherry Avenue resident Joan White says she fears people outside of Swanley St Mary’s associate its residents with the BNP and the allegations of racism against the party.
The 82-year-old said: “I worry they associate us with the BNP and therefore being racist.”
Cllr Golding was unavailable to respond to the residents’ or councillors’ allegations.
In July News Shopper revealed a Gravesend woman convicted of intimidating an Asian mother was a member of the BNP, after Cllr Golding made a video stating she was not.
Helen Forster, aged 32, of Park Place, denied being a member in the video posted on YouTube and the BNP website, but she was registered under a different surname - Colclough.
Cllr Golding says he was unaware Forster was a member of the party under a different name at the time of making the video.
Comments(384)
Sayso
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10:08am Mon 28 Sep 09
Northbynorth
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10:47am Mon 28 Sep 09
People moan about new people coming in and getting council houses before the locals or job losses ,or crime , yet all these things are beyond what any single councillor could do - blame the main parties for uncontrolled immigration, crime and the causes of crime?? and blame the main parties for objecting to the Bnp whenever they try to join any of the local council committies
Perhaps when they get a few more elected councillors they'll be able to achieve a bit more - either way it sounds like a smear story to me by a few disgruntled people who thought cllr Golding could wave a magic wand and put right the decades of wrong doing by the established parties !!! Lol
blazer666_uk
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11:00am Mon 28 Sep 09
Virtual-Monster
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12:17pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Pat Dobbs
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12:37pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Cllr Paul Golding
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12:48pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Firstly, I put my mobile number out 8 times now on leaflets in the whole of the ward and appealed for people to ring if they need assistance. I have helped many people since February included a disabled lady who was ignored by that cretin John Underwood. Hardly 'unavailable' is it!
All they have done is rolled out several Labour supporters to chat nonsense, all topped off nicely with a quote from John Underwood. Hardly a 'story'. Ask residents in Swanley, they will all tell you it is the Labour lot who are derided as the 'invisible councillors'. I am immensely popular in Swanley, Labour are universally unpopular, and rightly so.
I have a 100% attendence record at council, UNLIKE Labour.
I regularly drive around the ward reporting rubbish and getting it cleared, UNLIKE Labour.
The bit that makes me chuckle is the part where I was 'unavailable' for comment. Despite my number being lodged with the council and all local media outlets, I wasn't approached at any time for a quote. Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst.
Shame on you. Let's see if you print this comment......
rod 689
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12:49pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Local lady
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12:53pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Not one of them knocked on my door during the campaign. I even told a Labour eprson this - he noted my address and still nothing!
Also, I am sick to death of the tatty Sentinal brochure from the Labour party that drops through my letter box - it is not a community news letter but an ongoing smear campaign against the Conservative party. If these two parties had stopped acting like school boys and fighting in the playground they would have overcome the BNP in the election with ease. Let's hope they have learned their lesson.
I rang their contact number for Labour during the campaign as I had a complaint about the abysmal way that Adult Education were treating the creative writing tutor and students in Dartford and Gravesend centres (many students live in Swanley)- they never rang back -
they were too busy poking the other parties with a stick!
B K Sewer
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1:07pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Simon Bull
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1:18pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Cllr Paul Golding wrote:Comment from Richard Firth, News Shopper editor:
A typical Labour/media smear story. The usual bilge when a BNP candidate gets elected and starts to chip away at traditional Labour support. Firstly, I put my mobile number out 8 times now on leaflets in the whole of the ward and appealed for people to ring if they need assistance. I have helped many people since February included a disabled lady who was ignored by that cretin John Underwood. Hardly 'unavailable' is it! All they have done is rolled out several Labour supporters to chat nonsense, all topped off nicely with a quote from John Underwood. Hardly a 'story'. Ask residents in Swanley, they will all tell you it is the Labour lot who are derided as the 'invisible councillors'. I am immensely popular in Swanley, Labour are universally unpopular, and rightly so. I have a 100% attendence record at council, UNLIKE Labour. I regularly drive around the ward reporting rubbish and getting it cleared, UNLIKE Labour. The bit that makes me chuckle is the part where I was 'unavailable' for comment. Despite my number being lodged with the council and all local media outlets, I wasn't approached at any time for a quote. Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst. Shame on you. Let's see if you print this comment......
Cllr Golding is not telling the truth when he says he was not approached for a quote. Our reporter rang him SIX times between last Wednesday and Friday and left a message requesting he return our calls. He didn’t bother. It’s obviously his choice whether or not he responds to our requests for a quote but, apparently unlike him, my reporters are able to do their job properly.
Local lady
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2:41pm Mon 28 Sep 09
I like to think that I have an open mind and am prepared to listen to any person's point of view - hence my previous post where I mentioned the labour party not getting back to me - it is pure bad manners.
Mr Golding you must be polite or you will not win votes regardless of you wearing nice smart suits.
Words like 'cretin' are not pleasant and only makes you stoop to the level of the type of people we do not want living in Swanley.
Regardless of some silly posts above the majority of people in Swanley are polite, hard working people who own their own homes - we didn't get this way by using words like 'cretin'
An apology perhaps?
Also, there is no shame in saying to this publication that you didn't have time to ring them back is there? You must have had good reason to miss so many calls?
This publication has been good to my writing school and we have profited by their articles and photgraphs in recent issues. Richard Firth, in the past, has spoken and given advice to my students so this is a newspaper to treasure. You would do well to keep the local press onside.
If you would like lessons in how to write polite letters and articles I can fit you into my writing school classes. We do not judge by race, creed or political alliances.
rod 689
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3:20pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Edith Crowther
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5:15pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Terrence Williams
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6:13pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Local lady
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8:53pm Mon 28 Sep 09
Also pick up the rubbish and tidy the pathway - not just report it. Some of the local councillors did this just before the judging of Town in Bloom each year but at no other time. The other week it was dangerous to walk through there with so many nettles overhanging the path.
Do something about the youths that hang around the town square - it is intimidating for older people. Also encourage them to pick up their litter and not to spit on the pavements.
What about the shops in Swanley? So many are closing down - why is that? We hear that rents are too high for shopkeepers. We've lost the wool shop amongst others and we need some sort of input to regenerate the town.
A shop for a load of layabouts to hang around is not the way to go - again it is intimidating.
How about checking why so many adult ed classes have closed down they are now almost obsolete in the town?
Why are room hire charges so costly with Swanley Town Council that local people wanting to run an event have to go elsewhere?
Buses - we need more!
Is that enough to be going on with?
Writing a letter is not enough - we need someone who is prepared to roll up their sleeves and make themselves heard - perhaps be seen to get their hands dirty with their fellow party members. I'm sure that the newsshopper would gladly report any successes our councillor can achieve, after all Labour and Conservatives councillors have all but failed the area so here is a chance for the BNP to shine.
There's your challenge if you choose to accept it!
Northbynorth
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10:15am Tue 29 Sep 09
Local lady wrote:Do you actually think St.Mary's ward in Swanley is the only area in the Uk that has graffiti on a wall, rubbish on a pathway, a few nettles overhanging on a pathway, youths hanging around on street corners (every generation has had that !) a wool shop that closed, blah, blah, blah ???
Clear the graffitti from the walls near the footpath behind St Mary's Church it is an eyesore and not very nice to look at when burying loved ones. A few strong men and a can of paint could work wonders in half a day. Also pick up the rubbish and tidy the pathway - not just report it. Some of the local councillors did this just before the judging of Town in Bloom each year but at no other time. The other week it was dangerous to walk through there with so many nettles overhanging the path. Do something about the youths that hang around the town square - it is intimidating for older people. Also encourage them to pick up their litter and not to spit on the pavements. What about the shops in Swanley? So many are closing down - why is that? We hear that rents are too high for shopkeepers. We've lost the wool shop amongst others and we need some sort of input to regenerate the town. A shop for a load of layabouts to hang around is not the way to go - again it is intimidating. How about checking why so many adult ed classes have closed down they are now almost obsolete in the town? Why are room hire charges so costly with Swanley Town Council that local people wanting to run an event have to go elsewhere? Buses - we need more! Is that enough to be going on with? Writing a letter is not enough - we need someone who is prepared to roll up their sleeves and make themselves heard - perhaps be seen to get their hands dirty with their fellow party members. I'm sure that the newsshopper would gladly report any successes our councillor can achieve, after all Labour and Conservatives councillors have all but failed the area so here is a chance for the BNP to shine. There's your challenge if you choose to accept it!
Whatever stopped you clipping a few nettles or organising a community spirited group to remove graffiti ? most councils if approached will provide the materials for free to community groups offering to help removing graffiti.
Grumbling about what faults you have found in your area and then expecting one new councillor to sort out the problems is ridiculous.. whole areas of the country have graffiti, rubbish, teenagers hanging around, unemployment, crime, high rents for business premises etc. The government not local councils are to be blamed for many of societies problems which we see across the country, and if other areas where the bnp do not have a councillor elected have identical problems under labour and conservative councillors what is the difference ?
Another point, you yourself could stand as an independant councillor and offer to put right the things you are so ready to complain about in your area if you so wanted - there is nothing stopping you unless you feel you are not up to it.
Local lady
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11:00am Tue 29 Sep 09
Northbynorth wrote:I see. Someone asks for locals to make lists and then you pop in from outside the area to ridicule what we write.
Local lady wrote: Clear the graffitti from the walls near the footpath behind St Mary's Church it is an eyesore and not very nice to look at when burying loved ones. A few strong men and a can of paint could work wonders in half a day. Also pick up the rubbish and tidy the pathway - not just report it. Some of the local councillors did this just before the judging of Town in Bloom each year but at no other time. The other week it was dangerous to walk through there with so many nettles overhanging the path. Do something about the youths that hang around the town square - it is intimidating for older people. Also encourage them to pick up their litter and not to spit on the pavements. What about the shops in Swanley? So many are closing down - why is that? We hear that rents are too high for shopkeepers. We've lost the wool shop amongst others and we need some sort of input to regenerate the town. A shop for a load of layabouts to hang around is not the way to go - again it is intimidating. How about checking why so many adult ed classes have closed down they are now almost obsolete in the town? Why are room hire charges so costly with Swanley Town Council that local people wanting to run an event have to go elsewhere? Buses - we need more! Is that enough to be going on with? Writing a letter is not enough - we need someone who is prepared to roll up their sleeves and make themselves heard - perhaps be seen to get their hands dirty with their fellow party members. I'm sure that the newsshopper would gladly report any successes our councillor can achieve, after all Labour and Conservatives councillors have all but failed the area so here is a chance for the BNP to shine. There's your challenge if you choose to accept it!Do you actually think St.Mary's ward in Swanley is the only area in the Uk that has graffiti on a wall, rubbish on a pathway, a few nettles overhanging on a pathway, youths hanging around on street corners (every generation has had that !) a wool shop that closed, blah, blah, blah ??? Whatever stopped you clipping a few nettles or organising a community spirited group to remove graffiti ? most councils if approached will provide the materials for free to community groups offering to help removing graffiti. Grumbling about what faults you have found in your area and then expecting one new councillor to sort out the problems is ridiculous.. whole areas of the country have graffiti, rubbish, teenagers hanging around, unemployment, crime, high rents for business premises etc. The government not local councils are to be blamed for many of societies problems which we see across the country, and if other areas where the bnp do not have a councillor elected have identical problems under labour and conservative councillors what is the difference ? Another point, you yourself could stand as an independant councillor and offer to put right the things you are so ready to complain about in your area if you so wanted - there is nothing stopping you unless you feel you are not up to it.
This is just a way to turn the discussion into a slanging match so that the councillor concerned can duck out of answering.
For your information I do run groups for local people - but we have to do it in Dartford as the fees for halls and rooms in Swanley is too expensive. We travel by bus to get there - good for the environment but not us due to bad service.
To get to the bus stop we've been stung by nettles - when do we get time between paying our council tax and earning a living to do this gardening you suggest?
The wool shop also sold other essential items that locals now need to travel outside the area for - taking much needed economy away from the town as people will start to shop elsewhere.
Then travelling back into Swanley we have to pass these yobs that hang around and our safety is jeopardised.
Yes, I have considered standing in local elections and when I am semi retired and able to devote the time I will do so thank you.
Now, will our councillor - and others reply?
Terrence Williams
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11:52am Tue 29 Sep 09
Local lady wrote:let's examine your list of complaints
Northbynorth wrote:I see. Someone asks for locals to make lists and then you pop in from outside the area to ridicule what we write. This is just a way to turn the discussion into a slanging match so that the councillor concerned can duck out of answering. For your information I do run groups for local people - but we have to do it in Dartford as the fees for halls and rooms in Swanley is too expensive. We travel by bus to get there - good for the environment but not us due to bad service. To get to the bus stop we've been stung by nettles - when do we get time between paying our council tax and earning a living to do this gardening you suggest? The wool shop also sold other essential items that locals now need to travel outside the area for - taking much needed economy away from the town as people will start to shop elsewhere. Then travelling back into Swanley we have to pass these yobs that hang around and our safety is jeopardised. Yes, I have considered standing in local elections and when I am semi retired and able to devote the time I will do so thank you. Now, will our councillor - and others reply?Local lady wrote: Clear the graffitti from the walls near the footpath behind St Mary's Church it is an eyesore and not very nice to look at when burying loved ones. A few strong men and a can of paint could work wonders in half a day. Also pick up the rubbish and tidy the pathway - not just report it. Some of the local councillors did this just before the judging of Town in Bloom each year but at no other time. The other week it was dangerous to walk through there with so many nettles overhanging the path. Do something about the youths that hang around the town square - it is intimidating for older people. Also encourage them to pick up their litter and not to spit on the pavements. What about the shops in Swanley? So many are closing down - why is that? We hear that rents are too high for shopkeepers. We've lost the wool shop amongst others and we need some sort of input to regenerate the town. A shop for a load of layabouts to hang around is not the way to go - again it is intimidating. How about checking why so many adult ed classes have closed down they are now almost obsolete in the town? Why are room hire charges so costly with Swanley Town Council that local people wanting to run an event have to go elsewhere? Buses - we need more! Is that enough to be going on with? Writing a letter is not enough - we need someone who is prepared to roll up their sleeves and make themselves heard - perhaps be seen to get their hands dirty with their fellow party members. I'm sure that the newsshopper would gladly report any successes our councillor can achieve, after all Labour and Conservatives councillors have all but failed the area so here is a chance for the BNP to shine. There's your challenge if you choose to accept it!Do you actually think St.Mary's ward in Swanley is the only area in the Uk that has graffiti on a wall, rubbish on a pathway, a few nettles overhanging on a pathway, youths hanging around on street corners (every generation has had that !) a wool shop that closed, blah, blah, blah ??? Whatever stopped you clipping a few nettles or organising a community spirited group to remove graffiti ? most councils if approached will provide the materials for free to community groups offering to help removing graffiti. Grumbling about what faults you have found in your area and then expecting one new councillor to sort out the problems is ridiculous.. whole areas of the country have graffiti, rubbish, teenagers hanging around, unemployment, crime, high rents for business premises etc. The government not local councils are to be blamed for many of societies problems which we see across the country, and if other areas where the bnp do not have a councillor elected have identical problems under labour and conservative councillors what is the difference ? Another point, you yourself could stand as an independant councillor and offer to put right the things you are so ready to complain about in your area if you so wanted - there is nothing stopping you unless you feel you are not up to it.
1) Local shops closing down because of high rents ? what can a single councillor do against this ? please explain
2) Yobs hanging around ? yob defined as : 'an aggressive and surly youth' are they aggresive ? or are they just teenagers meeting their friends and generally a bit loud ? Have you tried speaking to them and being friendly ? You could possibly explain to them about taking part in community/Christian church groups where young people take pride in helping others ? Do you have teenage sons and daughters ? would you like them to be classed as a 'yob' just because they are meeting their friends
3) Overhanging nettles.
Dearie me, the council cannot be everywhere cutting back nettles and in anycase the autumn will soon do it's job in that department! lol . You could have trotted of to the offending nettle and gave it a trimming if you had not spent so much time finding fault
4) You have not understood the conceipt that big shopping giants have ruined many local shopkeepers by being allowed planning permission by various councils in England and Wales ,even small villages are suffering whilst the main parties do nothing in central office to support rural communities and shopkeepers , so this is not something new , you need to find out more before
5) The easy thing is to criticise our councils and elected councillors for the unseen hard work they carry out which many members of the public do not know about ,and complaining for the sake of it when St.Mary is no different from many other wards in Kent .Kentish men and women have a tradition of rolling up their sleeves and just getting on with it, i suggest you do just that .Cheers!
Sayso
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12:19pm Tue 29 Sep 09
The BNP supporters have unsurprisingly completely missed the main point of the story. It's not about whether Paul Golding should launch a one-man crusade to improve the area, it's about what he's done since being elected as a councillor. As the article makes very clear to anyone who reads it properly, Paul Golding has not got involved in any council business since being elected, not joined any committees or done anything as the 'middle man' in taking residents' concerns to the council.
It begs the very obvious question of why he wanted to get elected in the first place if he's not bothering to fulfil any of his councillor duties. One wonders if it was merely a publicity stunt to get a BNP councillor elected in an easy target of a ward, and he wasn't actually interested in being a councillor afterwards.
One final question. I heard a rumour circulating in the area that Paul Golding was arrested the other week after he got into a fight. Does anyone know if this is true?
Terrence Williams
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1:01pm Tue 29 Sep 09
Sayso wrote:Sayso, let's look at the two residents named, and read again what they complain of.
Most of the comments on here seem to be from BNP supporters from outside the area who have nothing to do with Swanley or this particular councillor. They seem to be trying to create a smokescreen, trying to distract people with talk of what's wrong with Swanley to steer the discussion away from criticism of Paul Golding. The BNP supporters have unsurprisingly completely missed the main point of the story. It's not about whether Paul Golding should launch a one-man crusade to improve the area, it's about what he's done since being elected as a councillor. As the article makes very clear to anyone who reads it properly, Paul Golding has not got involved in any council business since being elected, not joined any committees or done anything as the 'middle man' in taking residents' concerns to the council. It begs the very obvious question of why he wanted to get elected in the first place if he's not bothering to fulfil any of his councillor duties. One wonders if it was merely a publicity stunt to get a BNP councillor elected in an easy target of a ward, and he wasn't actually interested in being a councillor afterwards. One final question. I heard a rumour circulating in the area that Paul Golding was arrested the other week after he got into a fight. Does anyone know if this is true?
"And residents of the St Mary’s ward say he has not been in touch with them since the election or championed their concerns to the council.
John Dudley, of St Mary’s Road, said: “The only time I saw him was when he was canvassing - they really put the pressure on and were here every day.
“But since then we have not heard anything from him.”
The 73-year-old added: “He should be doing more to represent the ward and find out what the people want.”
Cherry Avenue resident Ronald Gasson, 76, agreed, saying: “In my opinion he only showed interest in us to get votes and doesn’t care about us now he’s been elected.”
What exactly do the people want done ? The newspaper has not said what the local people want carried out apart from some nettles trimmed back and graffiti removed
Both these residents are in their 70s and they must have noticed in many years gone by that in ALL local elections General elections and European elections that is the ONLY time you see these people of ALL political parties, they are ALL all the same, it's nothing new my friend
The other thing well worth cosidering is this : if Councillor Golding applied to join any of the council committees are you seriously saying that there would not be an outcry from labour liberal democrats or conservatives sitting councillors ? because that is the norm,, on the one hand they accuse people of not doing anything once elected and on the other hand they oppose them once elected at every twist and turn, sending them to coventry so to speak ? are you suggesting that even if they were elected to any of these committees they could wave a magic wand and change things for the residents that the previous elected council members could not do by themselves ?
At least give the man a chance , and in anycase councillors have surgeries for residents to turn up and voice their complaints why have they not done this ? .Cheers
Local lady
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3:04pm Tue 29 Sep 09
Can you tell me when this councillor holds his surgery and where?
babs g
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3:49pm Tue 29 Sep 09
Local lady
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4:37pm Tue 29 Sep 09
babs g wrote:That is rather a silly comment isn't it? For your information many people in Swanley are fed up with council tax maney being wated on promoting Swanley in Bloom with hanging baskets and expensive floral decorations when roads and pathways away from the limelight are left to grow waste high in weeds.
perhaps she's going to ask the councillor to arrange santa to fetch her a pair of secateurs for xmas lol
Why would someone from Potters Bar be interested in this news item unless it was to cause mischief?
I notice our councillor has not replied perhaps he's busy cruising the streets of Swanley in his car again.
Adam McArthur
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7:06pm Tue 29 Sep 09
Simon Bull wrote:This message is in respose to Richard Firth's comments about his reporter leaving six messages for Cllr Golding:
Cllr Paul Golding wrote: A typical Labour/media smear story. The usual bilge when a BNP candidate gets elected and starts to chip away at traditional Labour support. Firstly, I put my mobile number out 8 times now on leaflets in the whole of the ward and appealed for people to ring if they need assistance. I have helped many people since February included a disabled lady who was ignored by that cretin John Underwood. Hardly 'unavailable' is it! All they have done is rolled out several Labour supporters to chat nonsense, all topped off nicely with a quote from John Underwood. Hardly a 'story'. Ask residents in Swanley, they will all tell you it is the Labour lot who are derided as the 'invisible councillors'. I am immensely popular in Swanley, Labour are universally unpopular, and rightly so. I have a 100% attendence record at council, UNLIKE Labour. I regularly drive around the ward reporting rubbish and getting it cleared, UNLIKE Labour. The bit that makes me chuckle is the part where I was 'unavailable' for comment. Despite my number being lodged with the council and all local media outlets, I wasn't approached at any time for a quote. Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst. Shame on you. Let's see if you print this comment......Comment from Richard Firth, News Shopper editor: Cllr Golding is not telling the truth when he says he was not approached for a quote. Our reporter rang him SIX times between last Wednesday and Friday and left a message requesting he return our calls. He didn’t bother. It’s obviously his choice whether or not he responds to our requests for a quote but, apparently unlike him, my reporters are able to do their job properly.
Maybe, just maybe he didn't return the calls because he doesn't see the value in speaking to the press. The press always edits a spoken or written statement until it becomes unrecognisable to the way it was originally presented.
He has a 100% attendence record, so you couldn't slam him on that count. Out of desperation, you contacted a bunch of Labour voters/activists for their opinions. All in all this was a very one sided story.
Someone else on this comments board mentioned that if you want Cllr. Golding to do something for you, you should visit him during his surgery hours. A simple solution!
No wonder the newspapers are either closing down or being bought by Russian spies.
Excalibur
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9:19pm Tue 29 Sep 09
"Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst" - how will you ever live your life now that you've been branded a commie by a member of the BNP?!!!
For info, I suspect the reason that Mr Golding didn't want to make a quote is that "Uggg, deport them all, they're taking all our jobs blah blah blah" doesn't exactly make good copy!
Adam McArthur
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3:29am Wed 30 Sep 09
Excalibur wrote:When you say "you've been branded a commie, deport the lot of them". Are you suggesting we deport all commies? That sounds like a great idea!
Ooooh Mr Purton what a storm you've whipped up! "Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst" - how will you ever live your life now that you've been branded a commie by a member of the BNP?!!! For info, I suspect the reason that Mr Golding didn't want to make a quote is that "Uggg, deport them all, they're taking all our jobs blah blah blah" doesn't exactly make good copy!
Only problem is, where do we send commies to these days? China and Russia are no longer Communist. Is there an island off of the coast of Cuba that is currently accepting unemployed journalists?
Excalibur
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8:01am Wed 30 Sep 09
Adam McArthur wrote:Read all of the post doofus!
Excalibur wrote: Ooooh Mr Purton what a storm you've whipped up! "Typical pro-Labour gutter journalism at its worst" - how will you ever live your life now that you've been branded a commie by a member of the BNP?!!! For info, I suspect the reason that Mr Golding didn't want to make a quote is that "Uggg, deport them all, they're taking all our jobs blah blah blah" doesn't exactly make good copy!When you say "you've been branded a commie, deport the lot of them". Are you suggesting we deport all commies? That sounds like a great idea! Only problem is, where do we send commies to these days? China and Russia are no longer Communist. Is there an island off of the coast of Cuba that is currently accepting unemployed journalists?
Edith Crowther
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9:27am Wed 30 Sep 09
Sayso
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10:00am Wed 30 Sep 09
It's also amusing to watch the BNP supporters' tactics in these situations, deviating mid-discussion when one approach doesn't work. First of all they try to deflect attention from Paul Golding on to petty issues in Swanley and then they start attacking the press. You can almost hear the two brain cells rubbing together.
How stupid are these people to believe anyone takes them seriously? Actually, don't answer that as I already know the answer thanks to Terence Williams' ridiculous claim that Cllr Golding might get picked on by other mean councillors, Adam McArthur's bizarre misreading of Excalibur's very simple comments and Edith Crowther's warped accusations of press bullying.
Far from being a one-sided story, it's perfectly clear Paul Golding was given ample opportunity to defend himself without the need for other people to protect him.
As for these surgeries people keep mentioning (if he actually bothers holding any), who cares about them? The article is about his lack of involvement in council business, he action or rather inaction since being elected. Every other member of Sevenoaks is on committees but he's not. Councillors don't apply to join committees, everyone of them is asked to join something. Clearly Cllr Golding has no interest in council decision making or representing the people who were foolish enough to elect him.
David Turnbull
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11:42am Wed 30 Sep 09
Sayso wrote:Poor sayso is annoyed that the staged two residents cannot name what they want done in ST.Mary's ward lol
It's always amusing when BNP numpties come from far and wide whenever one of their own comes under the slightest attack. It's a bit like how they gather from far and wide to burn golliwogs. It's also amusing to watch the BNP supporters' tactics in these situations, deviating mid-discussion when one approach doesn't work. First of all they try to deflect attention from Paul Golding on to petty issues in Swanley and then they start attacking the press. You can almost hear the two brain cells rubbing together. How stupid are these people to believe anyone takes them seriously? Actually, don't answer that as I already know the answer thanks to Terence Williams' ridiculous claim that Cllr Golding might get picked on by other mean councillors, Adam McArthur's bizarre misreading of Excalibur's very simple comments and Edith Crowther's warped accusations of press bullying. Far from being a one-sided story, it's perfectly clear Paul Golding was given ample opportunity to defend himself without the need for other people to protect him. As for these surgeries people keep mentioning (if he actually bothers holding any), who cares about them? The article is about his lack of involvement in council business, he action or rather inaction since being elected. Every other member of Sevenoaks is on committees but he's not. Councillors don't apply to join committees, everyone of them is asked to join something. Clearly Cllr Golding has no interest in council decision making or representing the people who were foolish enough to elect him.
What has the other labour councillor done in ST.Mary's ward then that these two so called disgruntled residents find they want the bnp cllr to do that the labour chap has not done ? ? ?
A lot of residents big up the expectations they want carried out when voting locally, mostly all national levels of complaints about the major issues ruining this country, perhaps they ought to get involved more in politics rather than drawing up a list of immpossible things they thought a local elected councillor could possibly achieve all by himself
Perhaps sayso and his ilk are worried that no one takes seriously the same worn out lies and smears anymore and people realise that if ST.Mary's ward is failing the expectations of the residents they could always form a queue outside cllr underwoods surgery and let's see if he can wave a magic wand !
Local lady
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2:22pm Wed 30 Sep 09
So, if Mr Golding is not going to answer my questions are there any other local councillors willing to do so?
Also, can any one of you tell me when you have your open surgeries?
Thank you!
Edith Crowther
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3:25pm Wed 30 Sep 09
Edith Crowther
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3:28pm Wed 30 Sep 09
Edith Crowther
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3:28pm Wed 30 Sep 09
Edith Crowther
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3:29pm Wed 30 Sep 09
eddie da eagle
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3:42pm Wed 30 Sep 09
Adam McArthur
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5:25pm Wed 30 Sep 09
If he isn't pulling his weight, he will see this article, take note, and if it's true, will improve his performance.
I do not see the point of all of the committees that are forced down the throats of the councillors. Most of them are pointless and keep the councillors away from the work that they are paid to do. Some Councillors join them to make themselves feel important.
Give Paul Golding a chance, he has only been a Councillor since February this year. He has a 100% attendance record, so can only build on that.
Betty Clucklebuck
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3:57pm Thu 1 Oct 09
Erastus
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11:54am Fri 2 Oct 09
Betty Clucklebuck
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12:44pm Fri 2 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:Why call the bnp names when the present Labour administration have engaged in torturing suspects from Iraq and Afghanistan for the American secret Service on Uk soil? and invaded their countries for oil for America .Blair lied about weapons of mass destruction and got our beloved country into a war where young men of 20yrs. of age are being killed and maimed? where are your complaints about these modern day fascists then?
BNP members are simply facist, racist bullies, they are NOT politicians. The fact that this lot were voted in simply shows how discontent the residents of Swanley are with the main parties. The BNP (British Nazi Party) would have about as much of a clue how to govern should they ever be elected as the Green Party would. I daresay the BNP couldn't believe it when they were elected - but then again, neither could the Nazi Party in Germany all those years ago. I hope the people who voted for these thugs have learned a very valuable lesson.
When a million people demonstrated against the war in London (and I was one of them !) and we find we are being totally ignored by these politicians then why should we support these politicians? Thugs? fascists? i think you need to open your eyes to those in govt. instead of using the same garbage used to tell us it's labour or conservative and NO other political party! thanks ,but no thanks!
Erastus
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1:11pm Fri 2 Oct 09
Betty Clucklebuck wrote:You are talking utter and total nonsense, like all you BNP supporters always do. The story is about a BNP councillor who has done nothing since he was voted in by misguided and discontented people. I will not get into an argument with the likes of you as you are best ignored. Go and spread your filthy opinions elsewhere. With luck the BNP will soon no longer exist because it's policy that it will not allow members of ethnic minorities is, quite rightly, illegal. Not that any sane person, ethnic or not, would want to belong to such a disgusting party as the British National (Nazi) Party.
Erastus wrote: BNP members are simply facist, racist bullies, they are NOT politicians. The fact that this lot were voted in simply shows how discontent the residents of Swanley are with the main parties. The BNP (British Nazi Party) would have about as much of a clue how to govern should they ever be elected as the Green Party would. I daresay the BNP couldn't believe it when they were elected - but then again, neither could the Nazi Party in Germany all those years ago. I hope the people who voted for these thugs have learned a very valuable lesson.Why call the bnp names when the present Labour administration have engaged in torturing suspects from Iraq and Afghanistan for the American secret Service on Uk soil? and invaded their countries for oil for America .Blair lied about weapons of mass destruction and got our beloved country into a war where young men of 20yrs. of age are being killed and maimed? where are your complaints about these modern day fascists then? When a million people demonstrated against the war in London (and I was one of them !) and we find we are being totally ignored by these politicians then why should we support these politicians? Thugs? fascists? i think you need to open your eyes to those in govt. instead of using the same garbage used to tell us it's labour or conservative and NO other political party! thanks ,but no thanks!
Now you can open your eyes and look for some other place to pollute with your ignorant, vile views.
Betty Clucklebuck
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1:45pm Fri 2 Oct 09
We can now all see the types of nasty thugs that pollute the internet demanding in a free and open society that we follow 'our orders' when it comes to electing people from whoever we choose!
Erastus
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2:03pm Fri 2 Oct 09
rod smith
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2:40pm Fri 2 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:picking on an elderly lady ? ? sums you marxist fools up doesn't it
Did someone say something?
betty hills
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4:50pm Fri 2 Oct 09
betty hills
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4:58pm Fri 2 Oct 09
rod smith
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5:31pm Fri 2 Oct 09
I think there are more important issues at stake than checking out on just one councillor out of the numerous thousands elected in england
Im not a voter of bnp but will certainly look into this matter as i think this is unjust investigating against one councillor instead of checking on the rest of them which would be fine
Local lady
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5:34pm Fri 2 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:Perhaps the Newsshopper could contaxct our other councillors in the area and take a poll on what committees they sit on? It would be interesting to know.
There are thousands of elected councillors up and down the country in england, are we going to see the press investigating what each and everyone of them does or is it just the selected few to be targetted? ive never seen this kind of thing happen before in the local press so it appears to be just smears in an effort to stop people voting for them I think there are more important issues at stake than checking out on just one councillor out of the numerous thousands elected in england Im not a voter of bnp but will certainly look into this matter as i think this is unjust investigating against one councillor instead of checking on the rest of them which would be fine
I'm still waiting to hear where Mr Golding holds his surgery in Swanley as I'd like to speak to him about something.
don walker
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12:40pm Sat 3 Oct 09
clive2
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11:21pm Sat 3 Oct 09
Local lady
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12:34pm Sun 4 Oct 09
don walker wrote:What a strange thing to say! Why waste energy logging onto a website just to write such an inane comment?
Local lady ain't that local she's from Chiselhurst caves ! HaHaHaHa
don walker
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12:35pm Sun 4 Oct 09
My sister in Swanley said cllr golding has sorted out her problems with outstanding repairs after one telephone call
Storminxx
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9:14am Mon 5 Oct 09
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Newpaper editors who understand the civic system of committees in councils should point out to there readers that cou cillors dont join committees, they are invited by the council leader or cabinet.
Best regards
Englandwinsagain
mattggg
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9:55am Mon 5 Oct 09
.i have been under both labour and the cons and feel we need a party which will stand up against our so called imigration policies and help us brits out as its the other two who have caused this situation we all find our selfs in......i am sure if my grandad was to know what he was realy fighting for he would not of fought in the 2ww...........its a total disgrace
ihavehadituptohere
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10:22am Mon 5 Oct 09
I voted for Cllr Golding as the Labour Party in council, and Government, have done absolutely nothing for me.
My wife was having long term problems with the council and Golding sorted it out within days.
That was my first vote for the BNP and I resent those left-wing extremists who dare call me or the BNP nazi.
The old parties have reduced this country to a shambles. Take a look around you. Open your eyes. Cllr Golding IS doing a good job, something the Labour lot failed to do.
airhead
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12:10pm Mon 5 Oct 09
ihavehadituptohere wrote:i am currently serveing in the royal engineers, and you basicly summed it up for me too.
I am ex army, six years Royal Engineers and six Royal Military Police. I voted for Cllr Golding as the Labour Party in council, and Government, have done absolutely nothing for me. My wife was having long term problems with the council and Golding sorted it out within days. That was my first vote for the BNP and I resent those left-wing extremists who dare call me or the BNP nazi. The old parties have reduced this country to a shambles. Take a look around you. Open your eyes. Cllr Golding IS doing a good job, something the Labour lot failed to do.
i voted for golding, i stick by my vote!
Erastus
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1:21pm Mon 5 Oct 09
I have said this before and I will say it forever: The BNP stands for the British Nazi Party and Nazi stands for evil.
"I am ex army, six years Royal Engineers and six Royal Military Police. I voted for Cllr Golding as the Labour Party in council, and Government, have done absolutely nothing for me." Then you should know better. Did you leave the army of your own accord or did they realise they had recruited nothing more than a brainless thug and throw you the hell out? If the army had known your opinions, I doubt very much that you would have been recruited in the first place.
I can think of many other people back in the '30s and '40s who were in the services and gave their lives to stamp out the sort of regime the BNP wants to enforce in this country. Anyone who votes BNP is a traitor to the memory of all those servicemen, servicewomen and innocent civilians who suffered and died as a result of the Nazi's abhorant, filthy, vile and repugnant view that some people's lives are worth more than others. In fact, when it came to the Jews, the Nazis viewed their lives as completely worthless.
Underneath the smart suits that the BNP likes to put at the forefront of their campaigns are not only the shocking swastika tattoos that they love so much but pure, unashamed, cold-blooded evil.
I urge people not to fall into the BNP's trap and succumb to their tales of how they are going to sort this country out. They will sort it out all right, just like the Nazis did in Germany all those years ago. If the BNP were to succeed and be voted into office, I hope anyone who puts their cross down beside those three, ominous initials, can live with their consciences.
Hugo Syn
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2:14pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Is it the black uniforms; the big boots; the thought of all those ironed-muscled, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, herr unt herren? Or is it that secretly these "****-handed sons and daughters of toil", who outwardly proclaim their solidarity with "the workers", would love to be able to lock up in concentration camps (and otherwise dispose of) EVERYONE who dares to hold a different opinion to them.
Go on admit it, "Erastus", don't sublimate those hidden urges of yours - you really would like to follow in your heroes footsteps wouldn't you? What is it to be - the concentration camps of Hitler's Germany, or (far worse) the Gulags of Stalin, if someone offers a dissenting view to yours?
Oh, and don't forget, that the ideology that you probably follow (marxist-leninism) has been responsible for over 120,000,000 million deaths since 1917.
We await your next dose of spewing bile and hatred in anticipation!
don walker
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2:15pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:Boring! boring! boring! So many lies,so many old fashioned boring insults and smears that fools NOBODY!!!!!!! :)
It never fails to amaze me as to how far the one-celled organisms also known as BNP supporters will go to cover their tracks, completely change the subject of a debate they are losing and vainly attempt to come across as nice people who care. I have said this before and I will say it forever: The BNP stands for the British Nazi Party and Nazi stands for evil. "I am ex army, six years Royal Engineers and six Royal Military Police. I voted for Cllr Golding as the Labour Party in council, and Government, have done absolutely nothing for me." Then you should know better. Did you leave the army of your own accord or did they realise they had recruited nothing more than a brainless thug and throw you the hell out? If the army had known your opinions, I doubt very much that you would have been recruited in the first place. I can think of many other people back in the '30s and '40s who were in the services and gave their lives to stamp out the sort of regime the BNP wants to enforce in this country. Anyone who votes BNP is a traitor to the memory of all those servicemen, servicewomen and innocent civilians who suffered and died as a result of the Nazi's abhorant, filthy, vile and repugnant view that some people's lives are worth more than others. In fact, when it came to the Jews, the Nazis viewed their lives as completely worthless. Underneath the smart suits that the BNP likes to put at the forefront of their campaigns are not only the shocking swastika tattoos that they love so much but pure, unashamed, cold-blooded evil. I urge people not to fall into the BNP's trap and succumb to their tales of how they are going to sort this country out. They will sort it out all right, just like the Nazis did in Germany all those years ago. If the BNP were to succeed and be voted into office, I hope anyone who puts their cross down beside those three, ominous initials, can live with their consciences.
Erastus
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3:35pm Mon 5 Oct 09
One thing I will never do is get into a slanging match with the British Nazi Party because the less publicity it gets, the better.
Another reason for my refusal to argue the toss with these nasty people is that it is impossible to have a sensible debate with the BNP because its members' views are based on race hatred, and there can be no middle ground to be found there. Race hatred is wrong and there is no room for debate on the subject.
No one who has learned anything from history would dream of voting for a party with such far-right-wing and dangerous views as the BNP. That is why the BNP prey upon those in society who perhaps find themselves without a job or at some other low-point in their lives. The BNP loves the vulnerable, as did the German Nazi Party back in the 1930s and '40s.
Obviously, it goes without saying that the main political parties have let us all down, what with expenses and all number of other scandals and, quite rightly, they should be brought to task. But the difference between the main parties and the BNP is that the main parties' policies are not founded in hatred for a person's skin, where they were born or their religion; the BNP's are.
Erastus
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3:50pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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3:53pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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4:00pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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4:06pm Mon 5 Oct 09
http://www.dailymail
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Sidcupite
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5:03pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:04pm Mon 5 Oct 09
If the Daily Mail thinks that the BNP is too far-right, surely we ALL should.
Erastus
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5:05pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:11pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Why else would someone from Watford or, of all places, Darlington, be reading the News Shopper?
It certainly makes one think, doesn't it?
Local lady
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5:14pm Mon 5 Oct 09
We want what is best for our area not a load of mudslinging.
I'm sick to death of all the political parties not doing their jobs and blaming each other.
What we need in Swanley are independent councillors who just want what's best for us without cowtowing to leaders and string pullers.
Erastus
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5:15pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Sidcupite
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5:17pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Sidcupite
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5:17pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:20pm Mon 5 Oct 09
WHY would someone living in WATFORD or DARLINGTON read this local online newspaper?
Have you no local newspapers in your neck of the woods?
Or is it a case that you are really DO live in the area but are too cowardly to admit it?
As Sidcupite quite rightly pointed out, did you just happen to come across this story by trawling the internet or were you 'tipped-off' to come on here to defend the BNP?
We await your reply with anticipation.
Erastus
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5:26pm Mon 5 Oct 09
What we must NOT do is let them get away carte blanche with their views and allow them to go unchallenged.
That is why I am challenging them now:
Why would someone who resides in Watford or Darlington be interested in this story?
Erastus
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5:29pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:29pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:30pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:31pm Mon 5 Oct 09
WHY would someone living in Watford or Darlington come across this story in the first place?
WHY?
Erastus
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5:32pm Mon 5 Oct 09
WHY?
Erastus
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5:35pm Mon 5 Oct 09
WHY would someone living in Watford or Darlington come across this story in the first place?
WHY?
Erastus
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5:37pm Mon 5 Oct 09
There, I spelt it out for you, just to make it easier.
Erastus
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5:39pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:40pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:43pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Local lady
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5:45pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:Just bumping my quote up again as it was lost amongst the 'whys' from someone else who doesn't live in Swanley.
As a decent hard working local person I am horrified by what has been written in this thread. We want what is best for our area not a load of mudslinging. I'm sick to death of all the political parties not doing their jobs and blaming each other. What we need in Swanley are independent councillors who just want what's best for us without cowtowing to leaders and string pullers.
Erastus
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5:45pm Mon 5 Oct 09
WHY would someone living in Watford or Darlington come across this story in the first place?
WHY?
boxer
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5:50pm Mon 5 Oct 09
dropping depleted uranium, on men/women and children bombing schools,
was it not the nazis who wanted to unite europe?
they dont give a dam.
The jackboots you can hear Erastus
are yours.
wear them with pride comrade.
Erastus
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5:51pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:Dear Local Lady, I will now 'bump' myself up by saying this: I am more local to Swanley than someone who resides in Watford or Darlington.
Local lady wrote: As a decent hard working local person I am horrified by what has been written in this thread. We want what is best for our area not a load of mudslinging. I'm sick to death of all the political parties not doing their jobs and blaming each other. What we need in Swanley are independent councillors who just want what's best for us without cowtowing to leaders and string pullers.Just bumping my quote up again as it was lost amongst the 'whys' from someone else who doesn't live in Swanley.
Perhaps you could answer my very simple question, seeing as those who live out of the locality can't quite seem to?
Erastus
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5:53pm Mon 5 Oct 09
boxer wrote:Very big place, London. Not as far as Darlington, though.
Yep your right lab/lib/con partys treat all people the same, dropping depleted uranium, on men/women and children bombing schools, was it not the nazis who wanted to unite europe? they dont give a dam. The jackboots you can hear Erastus are yours. wear them with pride comrade.
Erastus
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5:55pm Mon 5 Oct 09
It's a LOCAL paper, you see.
Erastus
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5:58pm Mon 5 Oct 09
That is why I am so confused as to why someone in Watford or Darlington should read it.
You see my point, don't you?
Erastus
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6:02pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington
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6:40pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Local lady
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8:48pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:What road does she live in?
I think Cllr. Golding is doing an A1 job see, according to my auntie Mabel who resides in Swanley and is not on the internet but has spoken to me on the telephone over this matter and wanted me to send in this message of thanks to Mr. Golding for helping her with a few local problems.Thanks Pam x
Let's Agree To Differ
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9:03pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Local Lady I hope that you get the answers that you seek but I doubt it very much. I think you would yourself make a good councillor from what I have read here.
Eratus I don't think you are going to get answers either. I have been a regular reader of NS for sometime and most comments are left by people from the local area. Most news stories also have little if any response. It is, therefore, always interesting to see how posts a BNP story attracts. Strange that!
As for the BNP supporters I think my security word says it all...join-deny...on
ce again the NS is spot on! Spooky!
boxer
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10:21pm Mon 5 Oct 09
Let's Agree To Differ
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11:10pm Mon 5 Oct 09
boxer wrote:Such a well thought out and coherant response Boxer. We can all now see from the evidence that you have presented that Councillor Golding is doing a great job. Thanks for clearing that one up!
Cop out...
OckendonPaul
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12:08am Tue 6 Oct 09
Calm down Doris, this story is linked from the BNP website, and when one of our members is (once again) being smeared by the media, we like to come on and give 'em a bit of support.
Now, pick up your dummy and get back to throwing the insults. Or, alternatively, explain why the BNP are wrong and why packing britain with ever more third-world immigrants is the best way forward.
Hope you enjoyed your dinner, do you agree with Halal slaughter?
Erastus
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7:21am Tue 6 Oct 09
OckendonPaul wrote:The BNP has mobilised its stormtroopers and henchmen. I wonder why this does not surprise me - most probably because that is what Hitler would have done.
To Erastus. Calm down Doris, this story is linked from the BNP website, and when one of our members is (once again) being smeared by the media, we like to come on and give 'em a bit of support. Now, pick up your dummy and get back to throwing the insults. Or, alternatively, explain why the BNP are wrong and why packing britain with ever more third-world immigrants is the best way forward. Hope you enjoyed your dinner, do you agree with Halal slaughter?
Poor Herr Golding feels all ganged-up on, bless. Best call the big boys in, eh?
Now that we have established just how the BNP operates, thanks to OckendonPaul, I will now leave this debate because I can't stand the stench of racism any longer.
Pam Riley-Ellington
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8:38am Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:Auntie Mabel is in her 70s how dare you ask for her address in Swanley on here so you can throw eggs at her home.
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: I think Cllr. Golding is doing an A1 job see, according to my auntie Mabel who resides in Swanley and is not on the internet but has spoken to me on the telephone over this matter and wanted me to send in this message of thanks to Mr. Golding for helping her with a few local problems.Thanks Pam xWhat road does she live in?
As we have seen most anti Bnp supporters are violent hooligans hell bent on violence and intimidation demanding to know why comments have been posted in support of Mr.Golding but only wanting anti Bnp comments allowed.This sums up these people.Fascists!
J.Hollington
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8:58am Tue 6 Oct 09
Sayso
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10:28am Tue 6 Oct 09
It really doesn't take much for them to expose their true colours does it? Scared, paranoid, weak - reacting with anger to the slightest provocation.
The only thing the BNP supporters haven't done here is to explain exactly what Paul Golding has done since being elected, which is actually the whole point of the story in the first place.
Sayso
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10:41am Tue 6 Oct 09
The letter, which I believe may have emanated from the esteemed projects co-ordinator (snigger) himself, has been emailed around party drones.
I need to issue a health warning before you read it. Hold on to your sides because they may split from the laughing you do while reading the following jibberish:
Time to Fight Back Against News Shopper Lies!
The News Shopper rag that covers south-east London and north-west Kent is a particularly venomous anti-British leftwing propaganda outlet. For years they have spewed an endless stream of deception, lies and outright fabrications against the local BNP branches in that region.
Recently, the professional liars at the News Shopper excelled themselves in leftist gutter journalism by printing a Labour fabricated non-story claiming that the South East's only elected BNP councillor, BNP Projects Coordinator Paul Golding, has "done nothing" since elected, claiming that it this is the conclusion of the local 'residents'.
Who are these 'residents'? Two Labour supporters and two Lib-Lab-Con councillors terrified of losing their seats to the BNP! This is without a doubt a Labour/media hatchet job designed to arrest the overwhelming leakage of support from Labour to the BNP in Swanley, Kent. The Labour councillors in Swanley are known as the 'Invisible Councillors' and are deeply unpopular, losing one of their two seats in Sevenoaks to the BNP the first time we stood in the area. No wonder they are desperate!
The only way of forcing these lying newspapers to treat the BNP with the same impartiality with which they treat Lib-Lab-Con is to complain to their advertisers. Free circulation newspapers like the News Shopper are dependent on local companies placing adverts to survive financially. The whole media industry is in deep financial trouble, so pressure placed against the advertisers of newspapers is a very powerful way of fighting back against their monopoly on news and information.
Do you want to help the BNP fight back against media lies? If so, then we are calling on you and all our online supporters, numbered at over 40,000 at present, to complain to the advertisers of the lying gutter rag News Shopper. If enough people do this, then they will be cowed into dropping any future attempts to smear our Party. Remember, this method of fighting back worked wonders against the Manchester Evening News (the largest regional newspaper in the UK) during the Euro Election, and will almost certainly work against the News Shopper if enough people take only a few minutes to muck in and help.
Write a polite email or make a polite phone call to the companies below informing them that you will no longer be having any dealings with their company whilst they place adverts in the lying News Shopper gutter rag.
1. Wise Bedding
2. Camelot (double glazing)
3. Wellingtons Electrical
To view the smear article in question please use the following link:
- SWANLEY: Residents say BNP councillor has 'done nothing' for the area (News Shopper 28/09/2009)
Letters ends. So there you have it. Told you it was funny.
Sidcupite
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11:03am Tue 6 Oct 09
Dartbored
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11:05am Tue 6 Oct 09
However, if the letter printed by sayso (above) IS true then the BNP have scored a massive own goal with this one. If it's true (and I guess we will never know because you will all frantically deny it's existence) then it has got to be one of the lamest, laughable, pathetic, insecure, paranoid, delusional pieces of PR I have ever heard in my entire life.
I'm all for an objective and reasoned debate, but this letter is no better than playground bullying. You're right sayso, it is very funny.
Oh dear BNP, what have you done....?
Erastus
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11:07am Tue 6 Oct 09
Thanks, I haven't laughed so much in ages. I am going to show it to as many people as I can because I am sure they could do with a good chuckle too.
J.Hollington
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11:28am Tue 6 Oct 09
Dartbored
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11:28am Tue 6 Oct 09
Here's the opening paragraph (which you can all check for yourself):
"What is cyberactivism?
This simply means using the Internet to good effect in making complaints, defending the truth and making those who claim to represent us listen to the voice of patriotic Britons. It means using email, chat and message forums, local and national online newspapers, TV Channel websites, and social networking websites to influence decision making, bring about change and ensure that our voice is not overlooked or underestimated."
Erastus
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11:30am Tue 6 Oct 09
"The News Shopper rag that covers south-east London and north-west Kent is a particularly venomous anti-British leftwing propaganda outlet."
I actually had tears rolling down my face!
Erastus
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11:39am Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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11:52am Tue 6 Oct 09
Even the BNP leaders are ashamed of their own party members and only summon them when they want to start a fight.
You see, I was right when I said 'stormtroopers', wasn't I?
Erastus
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12:09pm Tue 6 Oct 09
"Write a polite email or make a polite phone call to the companies below informing them that you will no longer be having any dealings with their company whilst they place adverts in the lying News Shopper gutter rag.
1. Wise Bedding
2. Camelot (double glazing)
3. Wellingtons Electrical"
I would be interested to find out if these companies have been contacted and/or threatened by BNP members/henchmen/sto
rmtroopers.
I wonder what the BNP's definition of 'polite' is.
Northbynorth
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12:44pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I suspect the latter, there cannot be so many disturbed people posting one after the other with the same style of stupidity in any part of this country.
Take this "Erastus" character - she asked eleven or twelve times "Why" on different posts ??? one after the other - something you would not expect from someone who was normal and sensible. Posts have been flying in within minutes of each other which is a total giveaway of one delusional person pretending there are lot's of upset people in Swanley all at a moments notice who are all at their computers exactly the same time! lol.
We've seen "Sayso" aka "Erastus" accusing these words against the bnp on this thread - "Bullying", "insults", "racism", "scared", "paranoid", "weak", I have not seen any of these things at all - but then again, when you are dealing with unstable people on their computers without their medication - what can we expect ??? (perhaps these Words were on your personal medical asssement form that you were able to sneak a look at!)
"Erastus" actually has tears rolling down her face! Ah bless, poor thing, one can just imagine how easily and simple she is pleased on her computer dripping all over her keyboard as she posts another pile of smears under bogus names hoping a few people will be taken in with this very amateurish hatchet job. lol.
As it stands, unless EVERY councillor in this country is put under exactly the same scruitiny as this councillor by the newspapers, then no one will be fooled by this "Erastus & Co"
Erastus
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12:49pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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12:53pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Oh well, I guess I will have to keep looking.
Erastus
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12:57pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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12:59pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady
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1:02pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:How dare you assume I have money to waste throwing eggs at your aunt!
Local lady wrote:Auntie Mabel is in her 70s how dare you ask for her address in Swanley on here so you can throw eggs at her home. As we have seen most anti Bnp supporters are violent hooligans hell bent on violence and intimidation demanding to know why comments have been posted in support of Mr.Golding but only wanting anti Bnp comments allowed.This sums up these people.Fascists!Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: I think Cllr. Golding is doing an A1 job see, according to my auntie Mabel who resides in Swanley and is not on the internet but has spoken to me on the telephone over this matter and wanted me to send in this message of thanks to Mr. Golding for helping her with a few local problems.Thanks Pam xWhat road does she live in?
I only asked as I am pretty sure that you don't even have an aunt and are here to cause trouble. I am a genuine local person - almost the only one on here at present.
Sayso
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1:03pm Tue 6 Oct 09
So then Northbynorth and all your other BNP followers, what exactly is your defence of Paul Golding? How can you stand by him still after he has been exposed as a blatant liar? Even on this thread he has been exposed for one of his own "deception, lies and outright fabrications" by claiming the newspaper hadn't contacted him when they clearly had.
It's also interesting how neither Paul Golding nor any of his cronies have been able to answer my earlier question and deny the claim that only recently Cllr Golding, a supposed pillar of the community, has been in trouble with the police for fighting.
Local lady
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1:13pm Tue 6 Oct 09
As the paper is not delivered to many homes in Swanley anymore and only read online then they are most likely only preaching to a minority at the best.
As someone who has used the publication for advertisments and press releases on many occasions the BNP (or any other policial party with an agenda) would not stop me using what is the best local news outlet in NW Kent and SE London
Erastus
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1:23pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:Hear, hear! I agree wholeheartedly.
Me too Erastus and I was the one keeping an open mind! As the paper is not delivered to many homes in Swanley anymore and only read online then they are most likely only preaching to a minority at the best. As someone who has used the publication for advertisments and press releases on many occasions the BNP (or any other policial party with an agenda) would not stop me using what is the best local news outlet in NW Kent and SE London
Northbynorth
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1:57pm Tue 6 Oct 09
11.28am { Dartbored
11.30am { Erastus
11.39am { Erastus
11.52am { Erastus
12.09pm { Erastus
12.49pm { Erastus
12.53pm { Erastus
12.57pm { Erastus
12.57pm { Erastus
12.59pm { Erastus
1.02pm { Local/lady
1.03pm { Sayso
1.13pm { Local/lady
1.23pm { Erastus
Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would notice the pattern of frantic postings by the same person using multiple names intending to portray something that does not exsist in Swanley - except in their own tiny confused mind. Let's hope the NHS can only improve in time in helping thse individuals, because as it stands there are some desperate, confused, individuals out there on the loose who are anti bnp maniacs.
Now don't worry Erastus, i'm sure one day you'll be much better! lol
Erastus
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2:01pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Or even 'hilarious', perhaps?
Erastus
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2:10pm Tue 6 Oct 09
"Remember you are personally responsible for what you post on this site and must abide by our site terms. Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious. If you wish to complain, please use the ‘report this comment’ link."
Many of us have been insulted and called a variety of names during the course of this 'debate'. We are entitled to report direct insults and request that they be removed but we have not because we want the nastiness of the BNP to remain on record.
The BNP are starting to remind me of The Exorcist movie. I can just imagine them writhing on the bed and spewing forth bile and insults as they are slowly, but surely, exorcised and the demons that dwell within them are exposed for all the world to see.
Sayso
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2:16pm Tue 6 Oct 09
"...intending to portray something that does not exsist in Swanley"
Ignoring the terrrible spelling, what do you think people are 'intending to portray' and how would you know anyway living the other side of London?
"an ounce of intelligence"
That would rule most BNP followers out then wouldn't it, including you. Well done on all your copying and pasting though by the way. That Basic Computing NVQ is really paying off.
"frantic postings"
The same comment could be levelled at you and several others.
Now, instead of blowing more hot air, can you please tell me EXACTLY what Paul Golding has done for Swanley since being elected and also confirm or deny the rumour about his recent arrest?
Local lady
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2:17pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Northbynorth wrote:I'm afraid that you have made a mistake in thinking I write under any other name than local lady. I am an honest local person and one you should keep on side if you want votes in the next election as I am one of the few who have an open mind.
Now this is hilararous at the following frantic postings. 11.28am { Dartbored 11.30am { Erastus 11.39am { Erastus 11.52am { Erastus 12.09pm { Erastus 12.49pm { Erastus 12.53pm { Erastus 12.57pm { Erastus 12.57pm { Erastus 12.59pm { Erastus 1.02pm { Local/lady 1.03pm { Sayso 1.13pm { Local/lady 1.23pm { Erastus Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would notice the pattern of frantic postings by the same person using multiple names intending to portray something that does not exsist in Swanley - except in their own tiny confused mind. Let's hope the NHS can only improve in time in helping thse individuals, because as it stands there are some desperate, confused, individuals out there on the loose who are anti bnp maniacs. Now don't worry Erastus, i'm sure one day you'll be much better! lol
Dartbored
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2:18pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady
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2:19pm Tue 6 Oct 09
When and where does the councillor in question hold his surgeries in Swanley?
I've ask around at groups I attend and no one has ever seen him in the area. Does he ever come into Swanley? Is he even local?
Sayso
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2:29pm Tue 6 Oct 09
However, I think you'll find the Golding family are from Slade Green and are rather well known.
http://www.newsshopp
er.co.uk/search/6874
51.Burglars_jailed_f
or_30_months_/
Northbynorth
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2:51pm Tue 6 Oct 09
You are frustrated that the bnp are gaining ground and making inroads with their policies into areas like Swanley by the electorate who decided to support them.
Why don't you tell us if you are so anti bnp, which political party the residents of Swanley should support and vote for and why ??? instead of the one they chose in february ???
Tell us why you think the St.Mary's ward was lost to the bnp in the first place ???
Go on amongst the five of you - ( although we can see it's just one person! lol ) answer these questions.
Dartbored
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3:11pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Dartbored wrote:Northbynorth, in my previous post (above) I politely asked for an answer to the points raised in this thread, but you've continued to berate others whilst avoiding the question(s)....again
Northbynorth, I think you've made your point. Whilst it's easy to get into a tit-for-tat argument on a site such as this, I for one would be grateful if you could actually answer some of the points raised. Mr Golding is on the proverbial ropes in this story so instead of berating other users, I'd like to hear some coherent responses to the allegations levied against Mr Golding and moreover, the BNP in general. Over to you.
.
Sayso
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3:13pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Now, as the self-appointed spokeswoman for the BNP today are you actually capable of answering the very simple questions posed? I know you live in Finchley and don't have a clue about what goes on around here but I expect you've been given in-depth briefings by Nick Griffin and Paul Golding.
Golding surgeries - when and where?
Golding police arrest - true or false?
Representing his electorate - what has Golding done, if anything?
Erastus
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3:31pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Why hasn't Paul Golding apologised for calling John Underwood a "cretin"?
I can't imagine members of the main parties using such a crude term as this. If they did, there would be an outcry, and quite rightly so.
Mr Golding, will you please apologise for insulting Mr Underwood?
Erastus
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4:06pm Tue 6 Oct 09
So, when are you going to resign, Mr Golding?
Erastus
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4:19pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Idiot: a person of subnormal intelligence
That's not very nice, is it, Mr Golding?
When are you going to apologise to Mr Underwood and do the decent thing by resigning?
Erastus
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4:21pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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4:33pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Why hasn't Paul Golding apologised for calling John Underwood a "cretin"?
J.Hollington
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4:52pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady
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4:53pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Sayso wrote:Interesting that he cannot say where he lives, I'm very loath to write to a po box - he should be in Swanley doing his job.
Local Lady, on the Sevenoaks District Council website Cllr Golding doesn't bother giving his home address, like most other councillors do. Instead he uses a PO box number in Bexleyheath. However, I think you'll find the Golding family are from Slade Green and are rather well known. http://www.newsshopp er.co.uk/search/6874 51.Burglars_jailed_f or_30_months_/
I did sent a message to the BNP website but as it is monitored and I was not there casing trouble I will no doubt be deleted.
Re the post about his links to Slade green. That is very sad as I am an ex Slade Green local and many of my family still live there. So, his family are amongst the few dragging that area down as well are they?
It's very sad.
Come on Mr Golding - where are these surgeries? Are you frightened to show your face in the town?
Erastus
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4:56pm Tue 6 Oct 09
J.Hollington wrote:What bones?
At the risk of sounding repetitive, I have not got a problem with Golding. There, pick the bones out of that !
Erastus
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4:58pm Tue 6 Oct 09
J.Hollington wrote:There are probably more bones, and backbone for that matter, in a jellyfish.
At the risk of sounding repetitive, I have not got a problem with Golding. There, pick the bones out of that !
Erastus
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5:00pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Dartbored
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5:06pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:18pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Definition: Portuguese man-of-war (plural Portuguese men-of-war): A floating colony of hydrozoans (Physalia physalis) attached to a float; it superficially resembles a jellyfish.
Seems about right.
Erastus
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5:21pm Tue 6 Oct 09
OckendonPaul
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5:22pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Dinnertime soon Erastus? Looking forward to your Halal again??
Erastus
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5:26pm Tue 6 Oct 09
OckendonPaul wrote:Surely, ONE question mark is enough, isn't it?
Calm DOWN Doris! I told you last night. Dinnertime soon Erastus? Looking forward to your Halal again??
For example, here is a question with only ONE question mark:
Mr Golding, will you please apologise for insulting Mr Underwood?
Erastus
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5:31pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith
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5:33pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:35pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:Probably because his fellow Physalia physalis are keeping him afloat, their stingers drawn.
I wonder why Mr Golding is so reticent?
Erastus
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5:36pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:Well, you are obviously doing the evening shift. Will you be here at 8am tomorrow?
Let's see if all the various anti bnp'rs all vanish at a certain time ? should be fun to see if they can keep this going beyond 6.30pm
Erastus
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5:38pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:44pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:46pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:53pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Still, at least I will be refreshed enough tomorrow morning to continue to ask this:
Mr Golding, will you please apologise for insulting Mr Underwood?
rod smith
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6:12pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Let's see if dartbored , local lady , sayso , sidcupite , letsagreetodiffer , or any of the other names will post shortly ...
Erastus
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6:34pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Bon appetite!
Postman Pete
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6:51pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Northbynorth
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7:00pm Tue 6 Oct 09
cider maker
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7:23pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I suggest you start looking for alternative employment sonny because let's be honest a smart 8yr old child could do the job of the average postman, or even better change the rules for impending asylum seekers and let them do a better job of delivering mail than the present bunch of left wing idiots..now that could be a good idea lmao
Big Will Johnson
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8:29pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Sayso
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8:38pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Northbynorth wrote:Thinking northbynorth must have a bit of a crush on Erastus. You're so obssessed with him. You're starting to sound like a broken record though. Is frantic your word of the day?
Erastus posted 28 frantic posts on monday and so far 32 frantic posts from 7.21am today which looks like she is getting even more frantic ahh bless!
I must remember not to ask you too many questions because I know you can't answer them.
Golding surgeries - when and where?
Golding police arrest - true or false?
Representing his electorate - what has Golding done, if anything?
Anyone, anyone?
Come on northbynorth, dazzle us with your intelligence and insight.
Sayso
says...
8:42pm Tue 6 Oct 09
OckendonPaul wrote:Do you really think it's clever to post such a stupid comment? I mean, seriously? You're sat in front of your computer and you can post virtually any response to this story to defend the BNP or sing the praises of Paul Golding, and that's the best you can do. Truly staggering.
Calm DOWN Doris! I told you last night. Dinnertime soon Erastus? Looking forward to your Halal again??
Sayso
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8:45pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Big Will Johnson wrote:I rather suspect the Big in your name is something of an exaggeration. But in any case, how would you know where Erastus works? Inside information? Or are you another one of those insightful smart BNP types who knows everything? After all, you are also rather keen on the word frantic. The plot thickens.
Why are you surprised that Erastus is so interested in this story and has left so many frantic posts? After all, he does work for the News Shopper.
Sayso
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8:54pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:Evening Rod. How's the News Shopper Herts edition looking this week? Oh wait, there isn't one. Silly me.
Let's see , it's just past six and erastus has said it's near his dinner time ... Let's see if dartbored , local lady , sayso , sidcupite , letsagreetodiffer , or any of the other names will post shortly ...
Funny how you and others think there is only ONE person on here who despises the BNP. The truth is the vast majority of genuine News Shopper readers will be appalled by this councillor's actions, or lack of them. The vasy majority of right-minded people will be disgusted by the blackmail and threats used by BNP members to put pressure on the newspaper for exposing the truth. And most decent people will be staggered how so many simple questions posed on this thread remain unanswered, still.
Erastus
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9:12pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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9:39pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Thank you.
Mr Golding, will you please apologise for insulting Mr Underwood?
Let's Agree To Differ
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9:42pm Tue 6 Oct 09
We know that the BNP will vehemently support him and their party. We know that they will create all kinds of smokescreens to try to deflect people from the original question. We know that they will abuse anyone who asks what Councillor Golding has done.
As for all the people who are asking being one and the same that is just ridiculous. Surely you cannot all really believe that there is only one person in the whole of SE London and Kent. I am definitely not Erastus, Sayso, Dartbored or Local Lady. I am Let's Agree to Differ.
For the record I only post during the evenings. I do not use the internet during my working hours for my personal use. I use my own internet in my own time.
I believe that I have only made 2 previous posts :
9:03pm Mon 5 Oct 09
11:10pm Mon 5 Oct 09 which I would hardly call 'frantic.'
So what exactly has Coucncillor Golding done fo the people of Swanley since being elected?
Let's Agree To Differ
says...
9:46pm Tue 6 Oct 09
See how easy it is to give an apology and admit mistakes.
Let's Agree To Differ
says...
9:48pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
10:05pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
Erastus
says...
10:05pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
10:08pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I AM.
Erastus
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10:09pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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10:10pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:WE are still here, Roddy.
Let's see , it's just past six and erastus has said it's near his dinner time ... Let's see if dartbored , local lady , sayso , sidcupite , letsagreetodiffer , or any of the other names will post shortly ...
Where are you?
Erastus
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10:13pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:Where are you, Roddy?
Let's see , it's just past six and erastus has said it's near his dinner time ... Let's see if dartbored , local lady , sayso , sidcupite , letsagreetodiffer , or any of the other names will post shortly ...
Erastus
says...
10:16pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I will then see you at exactly 8am tomorrow morning. I will be ready and waiting.
Erastus
J.Hollington
says...
10:18pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Night night kiddywinks, adults have lot's of enjoyment left before retiring to bed at such an earlier hour
Let's Agree To Differ
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10:24pm Tue 6 Oct 09
So maybe by then someone somewhere will have managed to find an aswer to the very difficult question posed on here so many times by so many people.
Come out, come out wherever you Councillor Golding and tell us what exactly you have done for the people of Swanley. I'm sure if you ask your party very nicely they can give you a prepared script!
Erastus
says...
10:26pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Let's Agree To Differ
says...
10:33pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
10:36pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
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10:46pm Tue 6 Oct 09
rod smith wrote:We did keep it going, didn't we?
Let's see if all the various anti bnp'rs all vanish at a certain time ? should be fun to see if they can keep this going beyond 6.30pm
In fact, we will always keep it going.
Erastus
says...
10:48pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady
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11:08pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I reckon he's chicken, bitten off more than he can chew and is plain scared to join this thread.
Let's face it he isn't busy is he?
TELL ME MR GOLDING WHEN IS YOUR NEXT SURGERY?
Erastus
says...
11:32pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:Hear, hear!
One wonders why Mr Golding wants to represent Swanley when he's never here! No point in calling him a councillor as yu have to earn the job title. I reckon he's chicken, bitten off more than he can chew and is plain scared to join this thread. Let's face it he isn't busy is he? TELL ME MR GOLDING WHEN IS YOUR NEXT SURGERY?
Erastus
says...
11:33pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
11:35pm Tue 6 Oct 09
If you cannot force yourself to apologise, would you please do the decent thing and RESIGN?
Erastus
says...
11:38pm Tue 6 Oct 09
I am STILL here - unlike the BNP.
Erastus
says...
11:42pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Are there any BNP around in the next 10 minutes while I am drinking my cocoa?
Erastus
says...
11:47pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:My apologies, I should have said: "it has been a long day and I should go to bed at sometime".
Look, I am have to go to bed sometime. Are there any BNP around in the next 10 minutes while I am drinking my cocoa?
Still, I haven't finished my cocoa yet so I will give the BNP a minute or so to respond.
Erastus
says...
11:48pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
11:51pm Tue 6 Oct 09
See you at 8 tomorrow, BNP. Sleep well.
PS: Mr Golding, will you please apologise for insulting Mr Underwood?
Erastus
says...
11:56pm Tue 6 Oct 09
Sleep well - because I will.
Erastus
says...
7:13am Wed 7 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington
says...
7:13am Wed 7 Oct 09
All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected.
More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!
Erastus
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7:49am Wed 7 Oct 09
betty hills
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8:18am Wed 7 Oct 09
clive2
says...
8:45am Wed 7 Oct 09
Erastus
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8:50am Wed 7 Oct 09
betty hills
says...
9:35am Wed 7 Oct 09
L Hammond
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9:46am Wed 7 Oct 09
It's truely pathetic to see how one councillor is being tracked by a couple of internet agitators ( because that is how easy it is to see ) hell-bent on attempting to create a storm when in reality it's hardly going to cause a ripple in an ocean.
I also suggest that Councillor Golding did not send any communication reply into this thread ... again, it's fairly easy for anyone to try setting someone up in this fashion and it's happening a lot against BNP officials as marxist agitators, and oddballs, trawl internet forums hoping that masses of readers will be 'taken in' with these rather weak, lilly-livered attacks directed against BNP elected officials.
I suggest you start growing up Erastus because the British public are getting pretty fed up with these childish games on the internet and will place the box against a BNP candidate simply to get even with communist cranks who are trying to put pressure on the public at large in an effort to persuade them to 'do as they are told' at election times ... the public do not like being told what to do - and they can see like we all can on here the immature ramblings of a couple of cranks at work ... and they can see for themselves also the wider picture of what is happening in their areas and at a national level across the country as a whole. The British public are slowly awakening, like a slumbering giant ... and asking them to vote for the same corrupt, and greedy politicians who have created the downfall of this country for the last forty odd years ... is simply not an option for them anymor
Erastus
says...
10:15am Wed 7 Oct 09
Dartbored
says...
10:19am Wed 7 Oct 09
This was a relatively innocuous local story, printed by a local "rag", for local people. It has since manifested into a 200+ comment article and let me explain why:
Firstly, Cllr Paul Golding has posted a rather combative message, using offensive language against a fellow Cllr and accusing the Newsshopper of not contacting him. The editor of the Newsshopper has replied to his post and has accused Mr Golding of lying. Cllr Paul Golding has declined to comment on this allegation. This has understandably annoyed several readers. His silence has confirmed most peoples suspicions.
Secondly, people in and around the Swanley area (myself included) have been rather taken aback at the level of interest shown by people from across the UK. You yourself are from Bristol but claim to have been "browsing through..." - why would you be browsing through a regional newspaper in Kent?
I do not appreciate having a local story hijacked by people across the country. I agree that some of this thread has degenerated into rather banal tit-for-tat but nevertheless, it does not give BNP cyberactivists the right to bombard this story in the hope that you will beat the readers into submission.
NW Kent is not a left wing strong hold and I'm personally still undecided about where my allegiance will lie next May. One thing is for sure, the actions of BNP supporters on this site has at least helped me to form an opinion about that party, so for that, I must thank you all.
Sayso
says...
10:26am Wed 7 Oct 09
Do you people go to training camps in the mountains somewhere to be taught how to write so much without actually saying anything? Rarely has one post contained so much mumbo-jumbo.
By the way, do you come from the Bristol near Wales or the slightly lesser known Bristol in Kent?
I know it's a long shot since you obviously have no knowledge of this area or this councillor but do you actually have any response to the simple questions posed by numerous people during this discussion?
Northbynorth
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10:46am Wed 7 Oct 09
Erastus
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10:50am Wed 7 Oct 09
rod smith
says...
10:51am Wed 7 Oct 09
I heard there will be the biggest tv ratings for QT for years ! haha
Erastus
says...
10:53am Wed 7 Oct 09
Northbynorth
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10:56am Wed 7 Oct 09
rod smith
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11:01am Wed 7 Oct 09
Dartbored
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11:41am Wed 7 Oct 09
Northbynorth wrote:Considering the fact that every BNP contributor on this site has failed to answer a SINGLE question posed to them (including Cllr Golding) it will be refreshing to hear Mr Griffin actually answer a question for once.
Oh hello Rod nice to hear from you, how's the family ? And yes is it on a thursday this political show ? i'll have to check my diary - just off for an espresso now byeeeee lol
PS: Northbynorth - Question Time has been broadcast on a Thursday for years. You've clearly never watched it, clearly have no understanding about politics in this country and this explains why you are unable to answer the most basic questions that are put to you.
Byeeee lol
J.Hollington
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11:51am Wed 7 Oct 09
Dartbored wrote:Perhaps no one can be bothered answering your silly questions? ignored and cast aside lol
Northbynorth wrote: Oh hello Rod nice to hear from you, how's the family ? And yes is it on a thursday this political show ? i'll have to check my diary - just off for an espresso now byeeeee lolConsidering the fact that every BNP contributor on this site has failed to answer a SINGLE question posed to them (including Cllr Golding) it will be refreshing to hear Mr Griffin actually answer a question for once. PS: Northbynorth - Question Time has been broadcast on a Thursday for years. You've clearly never watched it, clearly have no understanding about politics in this country and this explains why you are unable to answer the most basic questions that are put to you. Byeeee lol
Kelly T
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12:01pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Dartbored
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12:14pm Wed 7 Oct 09
J.Hollington wrote:Ahh, I see. It's not that you're all too stupid to answer the questions, you simply cannot be bothered. Well that's alright then.
Dartbored wrote:Perhaps no one can be bothered answering your silly questions? ignored and cast aside lol
Northbynorth wrote: Oh hello Rod nice to hear from you, how's the family ? And yes is it on a thursday this political show ? i'll have to check my diary - just off for an espresso now byeeeee lolConsidering the fact that every BNP contributor on this site has failed to answer a SINGLE question posed to them (including Cllr Golding) it will be refreshing to hear Mr Griffin actually answer a question for once. PS: Northbynorth - Question Time has been broadcast on a Thursday for years. You've clearly never watched it, clearly have no understanding about politics in this country and this explains why you are unable to answer the most basic questions that are put to you. Byeeee lol
For the sake of the TV viewers, let us hope that Mr Griffin adopts a slightly more robust approach on Question Time.
Local lady
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12:36pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Lies, lies, lies,
Someone demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done for the residents of Swanley. I telephoned my auntie Mabel yesterday and here is a list of what he has carried out. Contacted the council on my aunts behalf and got three outstanding works orders carried out. He also helped three other neighbours with outstanding problems to be investigated and carried out to a satisfactory conclusion. All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected. More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!
How can you sleep at night after writing such fiction?
Local lady
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12:46pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Perhaps we could have a feature run, 'have you seen this man?'
With CCTV and mobile phone technology it would be easy to spot if he ever ventured into the town?
The Newshopper could pay a fiver for every sighting!
I am usually a mild mannered middle aged woman but boy this young oink is making me annoyed now.
Why doesn't his mother give him a slap and tell him to watch his manners and reply to these posts? Or is she in prison as well?
J.Hollington
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12:54pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Dr Jones
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1:02pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Regarding the above comment made by another reader I can't help but feel that this person is somewhat confused, indeed, many of our young chaps fought and many died fighting in the (politicians) war. They fought for ''Freedom'' yet that same freedom has been taken away from us, bit by bit we have been stripped our our English identity and heritage, and everything that we gained from the war we have given away to immigrants coming to settle in our country.
Dr Jones
Nick the Lid
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1:20pm Wed 7 Oct 09
All councillors have to follow a code of conduct, and if people feel that Cllr Golding has broken this code, then they can complain.
Both of which can be found here:
http://www.sevenoaks
.gov.uk/council_demo
cracy__local_service
s/councillors_and_de
cision_making/3288.a
sp
Of course come the next election, the electorate can make their true views known as is their democratic right.
Dartbored
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1:20pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Dr Jones wrote:Yawn....yet another dweeb joins the "debate" from another part of the country. So, Dr Jones, what are your thoughts about the article itself?
All those people who died in the 2nd world war to stop fascists ruling. SHAME on you and I cant say I feel sorry for you either.......
Regarding the above comment made by another reader I can't help but feel that this person is somewhat confused, indeed, many of our young chaps fought and many died fighting in the (politicians) war. They fought for ''Freedom'' yet that same freedom has been taken away from us, bit by bit we have been stripped our our English identity and heritage, and everything that we gained from the war we have given away to immigrants coming to settle in our country.
Dr Jones
Oh, you don't have any because you live 200 miles away?
Thought so. Cheerio.
Who's next I wonder - we haven't had anyone from Newcastle yet.....
Big Will Johnson
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1:45pm Wed 7 Oct 09
c. You and Sayso/Sysiphus are simply displaying your ignorance with your posts.
boxer
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2:19pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Or was it because you dont like people asking the tough questions NS? You all have blood on your hands
and your corrupt leaders.
Local lady
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2:34pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Why not go into schools and educate youngsters about the finer things of England not brainwash them with immigration rubbish. Yes it is a problem but not one that should be settled by violence and thuggery.
Why not make us proud to be English instead of hiding our heads in shame when your crowd start their nastiness?
Simon Bull
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2:37pm Wed 7 Oct 09
As for the rest of your latest comment I've got no idea what you're going on about.
Pam Riley-Ellington
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2:37pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:How dare you accuse me of telling lies.
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: Someone demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done for the residents of Swanley. I telephoned my auntie Mabel yesterday and here is a list of what he has carried out. Contacted the council on my aunts behalf and got three outstanding works orders carried out. He also helped three other neighbours with outstanding problems to be investigated and carried out to a satisfactory conclusion. All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected. More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!Lies, lies, lies, How can you sleep at night after writing such fiction?
You demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done and I gave you some examples of his work carried out for my auntie Mabel and her neighbours all satisfied customers. Now you may not like reading about this excellent work carried out by Mr. Golding and no doubt other residents can confirm this too. Not everyone likes running to the newspaers telling people what councillors have done for them as it's private between themselves and the councillors for them alone and not for you to go poking your nose into residents private business demanding to know where people live so you can threaten an elderly lady by throwing eggs at her home which seems to be what anti bnp hooligans engage in these days. Good bye and good riddance!
Dartbored
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2:39pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Big Will Johnson wrote:The only thing that's tedious "Big Will" is having to read the puerile rants from you and your fellow imbeciles. Frankly, I'm surprised at how easy it has been to win this war of words, I thought at least one of you would have some fight in you. But no, you've all scurried away like the cowards you are. As a PR exercise, it was, quite simply, a disaster for the BNP. You'll have to raise your game next May to avoid looking this stupid again.
What a dull, tedious and obsessive man you are Erastus/Dartbored/et
c. You and Sayso/Sysiphus are simply displaying your ignorance with your posts.
Alavidha! (as they say in Hindi)
Simon Bull
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2:47pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Hello Pam. If your dear Aunt Mabel has actually been helped by Cllr Golding then naturally we would be very interested to find out more about her experiences. Perhaps you could contact me privately with details of how we might be able to speak with your aunt. My email address is sbull@london.newsque
Local lady wrote:How dare you accuse me of telling lies. You demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done and I gave you some examples of his work carried out for my auntie Mabel and her neighbours all satisfied customers. Now you may not like reading about this excellent work carried out by Mr. Golding and no doubt other residents can confirm this too. Not everyone likes running to the newspaers telling people what councillors have done for them as it's private between themselves and the councillors for them alone and not for you to go poking your nose into residents private business demanding to know where people live so you can threaten an elderly lady by throwing eggs at her home which seems to be what anti bnp hooligans engage in these days. Good bye and good riddance!Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: Someone demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done for the residents of Swanley. I telephoned my auntie Mabel yesterday and here is a list of what he has carried out. Contacted the council on my aunts behalf and got three outstanding works orders carried out. He also helped three other neighbours with outstanding problems to be investigated and carried out to a satisfactory conclusion. All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected. More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!Lies, lies, lies, How can you sleep at night after writing such fiction?
st.co.uk. Thanks very much.
Pam Riley-Ellington
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3:18pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Simon Bull wrote:Hello Simon, i've just checked with auntie and she said to thank you for your enquiry, but she is not interested in speaking to anyone from the press. Thanks for your concern, thank you and goodbye.
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Hello Pam. If your dear Aunt Mabel has actually been helped by Cllr Golding then naturally we would be very interested to find out more about her experiences. Perhaps you could contact me privately with details of how we might be able to speak with your aunt. My email address is sbull@london.newsque st.co.uk. Thanks very much.Local lady wrote:How dare you accuse me of telling lies. You demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done and I gave you some examples of his work carried out for my auntie Mabel and her neighbours all satisfied customers. Now you may not like reading about this excellent work carried out by Mr. Golding and no doubt other residents can confirm this too. Not everyone likes running to the newspaers telling people what councillors have done for them as it's private between themselves and the councillors for them alone and not for you to go poking your nose into residents private business demanding to know where people live so you can threaten an elderly lady by throwing eggs at her home which seems to be what anti bnp hooligans engage in these days. Good bye and good riddance!Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: Someone demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done for the residents of Swanley. I telephoned my auntie Mabel yesterday and here is a list of what he has carried out. Contacted the council on my aunts behalf and got three outstanding works orders carried out. He also helped three other neighbours with outstanding problems to be investigated and carried out to a satisfactory conclusion. All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected. More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!Lies, lies, lies, How can you sleep at night after writing such fiction?
Local lady
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3:41pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Surprise surprise!
Simon Bull wrote:Hello Simon, i've just checked with auntie and she said to thank you for your enquiry, but she is not interested in speaking to anyone from the press. Thanks for your concern, thank you and goodbye.Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Hello Pam. If your dear Aunt Mabel has actually been helped by Cllr Golding then naturally we would be very interested to find out more about her experiences. Perhaps you could contact me privately with details of how we might be able to speak with your aunt. My email address is sbull@london.newsque st.co.uk. Thanks very much.Local lady wrote:How dare you accuse me of telling lies. You demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done and I gave you some examples of his work carried out for my auntie Mabel and her neighbours all satisfied customers. Now you may not like reading about this excellent work carried out by Mr. Golding and no doubt other residents can confirm this too. Not everyone likes running to the newspaers telling people what councillors have done for them as it's private between themselves and the councillors for them alone and not for you to go poking your nose into residents private business demanding to know where people live so you can threaten an elderly lady by throwing eggs at her home which seems to be what anti bnp hooligans engage in these days. Good bye and good riddance!Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: Someone demanded to know what Mr.Golding had done for the residents of Swanley. I telephoned my auntie Mabel yesterday and here is a list of what he has carried out. Contacted the council on my aunts behalf and got three outstanding works orders carried out. He also helped three other neighbours with outstanding problems to be investigated and carried out to a satisfactory conclusion. All these residents say these problems were ignored by the previous councillor who took for granted he would automatically be re-elected. More satisfied customers. Now I suggest Erastus you look very silly on here demanding to know what this gentleman has done, there's the list. Good day. I suggest Erastus is totally ignored now and this thread is as dead as the labour party in Britain!Lies, lies, lies, How can you sleep at night after writing such fiction?
Could you not even mention what area of Swanley?
Eggs are too expensive to waste and as a slightly overweight middle aged woman I would look daft waging a war on an elderly person with a box of 15 smart price eggs. Besdies it is the bnp thugs who do this not us decent honest locals who want a nice place to live.
By the way could you ask aunty how she found the man? Did she go to his surgery and when?
Dartbored
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3:48pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Newsshopper & local residents 1
BNP cyberactivists across UK 0
vini, vidi, vici
Erastus
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4:15pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Simon, it's over to you.
cider maker
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4:46pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Simon Bull
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5:05pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Funnily enough, he was happy with the attention of the press when he was elected but doesn't seem so keen on it now.
If anyone else has similar concerns about other local councillors not joining any committees, not being seen by anyone in their wards, not speaking at meetings or generally not doing very much for their residents then we would be very interested to hear from you.
L Hammond
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6:39pm Wed 7 Oct 09
betty hills
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7:47pm Wed 7 Oct 09
cider maker
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8:07pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Simon Bull wrote:What "people" ? just the two people named in the article and we all know how newspapers twist and turn things to suit their own biased agenda don't we ? these two people did not specify in what areas they had felt let down by the councillor or named anything they wanted doing in the ward which is very puzzling until one realises it's nothing other than a smear story. Please go around and knock on a few other doors and do a proper survey on the rest of the elected councillors, otherwise picking on just one councillor to complain about will only be seen for what it is - biased reporting from the n.shopper - used to be a decent honest paper one time - shame
There is no bias in this story whatsoever. The article arose out of dissatisfaction felt by people towards Cllr Golding's performance since he was elected. He came in with a lot of bravado, pledging to bring change to the area. People simply feel he has failed to do very much since getting in. Funnily enough, he was happy with the attention of the press when he was elected but doesn't seem so keen on it now. If anyone else has similar concerns about other local councillors not joining any committees, not being seen by anyone in their wards, not speaking at meetings or generally not doing very much for their residents then we would be very interested to hear from you.
Let's Agree To Differ
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9:05pm Wed 7 Oct 09
L Hammond
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9:33pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Let's Agree To Differ
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10:35pm Wed 7 Oct 09
Erastus
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10:44pm Wed 7 Oct 09
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boxer
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11:25pm Wed 7 Oct 09
caused by the bnp, could you please show proof of your claim.
how about looking into the uaf hammer attack on a bnp member.
O' i see you can only turn you head one way.
But it is a serous issue if only because all three parties fund/back this vile group of work shy filth.
while our good men are getting blown to bits, and for what?
Erastus
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11:32pm Wed 7 Oct 09
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See you there.
Erastus
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11:38pm Wed 7 Oct 09
There's a good chap.
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
Erastus
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11:39pm Wed 7 Oct 09
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See you there.
Roman
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12:37am Thu 8 Oct 09
your all obviously not originally from this country if you was then you would know that no man is more racially abused in this country than the white native Englishmen, Fact. Why we are even told it is considered offensive to fly the flag that represents OUR country. Stop bleating and whining like sad little girls, it was a democratic vote and democracy won, just because some English folk with a back bone have made a decision you don’t like you deem them all racist and scum, hey you want to see racists and scum, take a good look in the mirror, the image looking back at you is what is racist and scum. What are you all so scared of ? being sent home ? Then you seriously need to get your facts right about the BNP. That’s it go on, now you small minded mugs will no doubt slag me off like the children you are calling me a racist as well, funny that, my wife’s Scottish, my best mate Jamaican, my best man at my wedding was a Muslim, so yeah im a real racist you numpties. Its not about being racist, its about wanting what is best for this country and for the white English folk to be treated as EQUALS to those who are not native to this country, but get treated better than us ! Its about closing the door to illegal immigrants, and those that are nothing but a burden to this country, its about letting in, those that can offer the uk something, add to it, not bring it down, if you cant accept that then get the hell out, cos its fools like you that are bringing this once great country to its knees.
I have 3 children, all born here, all are British, not English, their mother is Scottish, my first born would be dead but for an Australian dr saving her life when she was born. my 2nd would be dead but for an Indian dr saving her when she was born with the cord around her neck, and my son has chronic asthma, but for the nhs which runs on foreign workers he would be dead, So you see I owe a lot to the fact we have over seas workers here in the UK, we need them, what we don’t need is those coming over who can offer nothing, just want an easy ride and a roof over their heads, what we don’t want is even more of a burden on our nhs because they come here to live and be treated for aids or god knows what other disease. Go away and get your facts right and get educated before you come here spouting you vile racist rubbish. Someone in this country has to make a stand, well done to the people of Swanly for being amongst the first, shame on those knocking them for making such a stand, your as spineless as our politicians.
Pam Riley-Ellington
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7:07am Thu 8 Oct 09
Erastus
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8:06am Thu 8 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
My auntie Mabel contacted Mr.Golding who said he has never posted anything on the paper so it look's as if someone is pretending to be him see.
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Dartbored
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9:06am Thu 8 Oct 09
"I have to laugh at the poorly educated morons spouting rubbish about racists.
your all obviously not originally from this country if you was then you would know that no man is more racially abused in this country than the white native Englishmen, Fact."
I have to laugh at the poorly educated morons who cannot start a sentence with a capital letter and then use "your" instead of "you're"
Sayso
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9:51am Thu 8 Oct 09
Sayso
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9:55am Thu 8 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Pam, I can say with complete certainty that you are talking complete and utter rubbish. I would wager that your supposed Aunt Mabel is completely fictional. And as for Paul Golding claiming to have never posted anything on here ... absolute tosh. If it was true he would have been on to the newspaper by now demanding the supposedly bogus comment be removed. But it's still there isn't it, so it clearly came from him.
My auntie Mabel contacted Mr.Golding who said he has never posted anything on the paper so it look's as if someone is pretending to be him see.
cider maker
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11:59am Thu 8 Oct 09
Sayso wrote:Looks like the bnp won this thread hands down lol
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote: My auntie Mabel contacted Mr.Golding who said he has never posted anything on the paper so it look's as if someone is pretending to be him see.Pam, I can say with complete certainty that you are talking complete and utter rubbish. I would wager that your supposed Aunt Mabel is completely fictional. And as for Paul Golding claiming to have never posted anything on here ... absolute tosh. If it was true he would have been on to the newspaper by now demanding the supposedly bogus comment be removed. But it's still there isn't it, so it clearly came from him.
Sayso
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12:10pm Thu 8 Oct 09
How exactly has the BNP 'won' this thread, cider maker? By being shown up to be complete idiots? By revealing themselves to be paranoid, deluded liars? By not answering a single question out of the many asked of them? Interesting theory of yours, not backed up by the slightest scrap of reality, as is the BNP way.
cider maker
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1:22pm Thu 8 Oct 09
Sayso
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1:33pm Thu 8 Oct 09
cider maker
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1:52pm Thu 8 Oct 09
Bill g
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2:20pm Thu 8 Oct 09
In my last 40 Odd years ive yet to see a politician answer a straight forward question put to them
Maybe when these anti people can get the main politicians to answer a straight forward question; perhaps they can then start complaining about the newer political groups; im still waiting for my mp to tell me why we invaded iraq; why we have not found the causes of crime; and why we have to keep taking in immigrants from france who have travelled thousands of miles across safe countries just to get to ours then claim asylum!
cliff hay
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3:46pm Thu 8 Oct 09
clive2
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4:10pm Thu 8 Oct 09
eddie da eagle
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5:13pm Thu 8 Oct 09
cliff hay
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9:00pm Thu 8 Oct 09
Local lady
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11:50pm Thu 8 Oct 09
Sayso
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10:33am Fri 9 Oct 09
1. Is it true or false that Paul Golding was arrested for getting into a fight recently?
2. When and where does Golding hold his surgeries for residents in Swanley?
3. What has he done for residents since being elected, other than not helping the fictitious Aunty Mabel?
I daresay that the huge nationwide interest shown in this story has been great for this local newspaper. All those people coming from around the country just to discuss this one little councillor! I expect by now they must have loads of follow up material and more revelations about Golding. I can't wait to read the next chapter!
Shadow 99
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11:11am Fri 9 Oct 09
a) people can see it's just a smear campaign against a single councillor singled out because you do not like the bnp
b) you've not chosen to investigate and report the detailed breakdown of what the rest of the councillors do in sevenoaks
c) it's a non-story
Erastus
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11:16am Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:Has no one ever told this person about capital letters, full stops and question marks?
perhaps you are being ignored because : a) people can see it's just a smear campaign against a single councillor singled out because you do not like the bnp b) you've not chosen to investigate and report the detailed breakdown of what the rest of the councillors do in sevenoaks c) it's a non-story
Dartbored
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11:25am Fri 9 Oct 09
Dartbored
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11:26am Fri 9 Oct 09
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Nosher 2
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11:49am Fri 9 Oct 09
If you are going to try and support the notion that only one councillor should be investigated ..... then that would be like only investigation one political party over the expenses scandal recently in Parliment .... no one would accept that , so what's the difference ? I'm sure if you carried out a proper survey and asked , 'would the residents of Swanley like the rest of the councillors investigated in the same manner as Cllr Jim Golding ?' you would find some that would say yes .... in the same way that nominations for candidates standing in elections have to have supportive nomination signatures from local people too .
As it stands , there are only two upset locals with some kind of beef to which it's not very clear what they are complaining about or , what they would like carried out locally .
Let's hope there will be a level playing field otherwise , the assuption of a biased report will definitely stand .
Sayso
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11:54am Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:You seem to be mistaking me with someone who works for the paper. It's ok, I've got used to BNP people not being able to read properly. I am in fact just an interested local, unlike you.
perhaps you are being ignored because : a) people can see it's just a smear campaign against a single councillor singled out because you do not like the bnp b) you've not chosen to investigate and report the detailed breakdown of what the rest of the councillors do in sevenoaks c) it's a non-story
The reason I'm being ignored is because nobody from the BNP is capable of getting both their brain cells working together at the same time to answer my simple questions. In any case, they don't want to answer my questions because the truth would hurt.
The answer to the first question is probably true, the second is there are no surgeries and the third is nothing.
Dartbored
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11:56am Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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12:15pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Nosher 2 wrote:Nosher 2's school report:
Is this newspaper going to list what all the other councillors have done then ? If you are going to try and support the notion that only one councillor should be investigated ..... then that would be like only investigation one political party over the expenses scandal recently in Parliment .... no one would accept that , so what's the difference ? I'm sure if you carried out a proper survey and asked , 'would the residents of Swanley like the rest of the councillors investigated in the same manner as Cllr Jim Golding ?' you would find some that would say yes .... in the same way that nominations for candidates standing in elections have to have supportive nomination signatures from local people too . As it stands , there are only two upset locals with some kind of beef to which it's not very clear what they are complaining about or , what they would like carried out locally . Let's hope there will be a level playing field otherwise , the assuption of a biased report will definitely stand .
Nosher must pay more attention to what is being said to him and make sure he has revised properly by reading through all previous notes. I would also like to see an improvement in his spelling, punctuation and grammar.
Grade: E-
Simon Bull
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12:24pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Just because only two residents are quoted in this particular story, it doesn't follow that only two people have been spoken to.
As for what the other councillors have been doing, take a look on the Sevenoaks District Council website. Pull up the profiles for the various members and you'll see a long list of outside represenation and committee activity for all of them, apart from Cllr Golding.
Getting a council seat somewhere in the south east was obviously a coup for the far-right BNP but to avoid it being seen as a cheap publicity stunt Cllr Golding needs to be seen to be active in the area he is supposed to be representing. All we're doing is highlighting what he's done, or not done, in the months since he was elected.
Nosher 2
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12:35pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Are you seriously suggesting , that two 'other' residents could not be found in Swanley .... who also , if asked , would demand that the rest of the councillors also be investigated in the same way as Golding ? If the newsshopper went around knocking on residents doors looking for people to pass comments about Golding .... and therby giving them the ammo they were seeking to write a story .... why not also knock on a few doors and ask if anyone would like the rest of the councillors also investigated in the same way ? .... you see , if you do not offer do this ..... then it smacks of selected journalism .... which is biased , and unfair journalism . That presumably is not the case is it ?
Dartbored
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1:31pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Cllr Golding posted a comment on this very messageboard. In that comment, he made two assertions:
1. That a fellow Cllr was a "cretin"
2. That The Newsshopper didn't contact Cllr Golding for his opinion.
Following his comments, The Newsshopper printed a hasty reply stating that they DID contact Cllr Golding - thereby labelling Cllr Golding a liar. He hasn't replied to this allegation.
So, not only is Cllr Golding a liar, he is also too much of a coward to stick up for himself on this forum.
If the residents of his ward are happy with a cowardly liar as a councillor then more fool them.
And please, can all the other BNP morons stop spouting their childish rants on this site - let Cllr Golding fight his own battle. Mind you, if his command of the English language is as poor as every other BNP comment poster on this site, I'm not sure I've got the energy to decipher his comments.
Simon Bull
says...
1:40pm Fri 9 Oct 09
If you can name a single other councillor in Sevenoaks or any of the other districts we cover who does as little in their job then I'd love to hear about it.
Shadow 99
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2:14pm Fri 9 Oct 09
a) dartbored ?
b) erastus ?
c) sayso ?
d) local lady ?
e) cliff hay ?
f) clive 2 ?
Ronald Duron
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2:36pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:I'll wager none of them will admit to supporting any political party ! Lol
which political party do you support a) dartbored ? b) erastus ? c) sayso ? d) local lady ? e) cliff hay ? f) clive 2 ?
cliff hay
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2:59pm Fri 9 Oct 09
cliff hay
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3:01pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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3:47pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:I have yet to decide who to vote for in the next election because, unlike BNP supporters, I am not a sheep that follows the crowd. Instead, I prefer to aquaint myself with the policies of ALL the parties and THEN decide. Obviously, I will not be voting BNP because their policies are vile and repugnant. When I vote it will be for a party with sound policies, not one with dangerous and highly-venomous ones that the BNP adhere to.
which political party do you support a) dartbored ? b) erastus ? c) sayso ? d) local lady ? e) cliff hay ? f) clive 2 ?
There, I have answered the question. Now, would Councillor Golding please answer the questions that have been put to him instead of hiding behind his stormtroopers like the coward he so obviously is?
Erastus
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4:00pm Fri 9 Oct 09
So far, it's been a very long wait ...
Erastus
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4:02pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Golding, do you possess a backbone or are you indeed a jellyfish?
Erastus
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4:05pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Golding, will you please apologise to Councillor Underwood and then do the decent thing by resigning?
Erastus
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4:16pm Fri 9 Oct 09
I am almost tempted to'laugh out loud' myself. Unfortunately, the BNP's policies are far too dangerous to raise even the slightest chuckle.
Tell me, BNP supporters, what does it feel like to realise that Golding is a coward of the first order? How does it feel to take his side and defend him in the knowledge that he is cowering in his bunker while you take all the flack?
Erastus
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4:22pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Still, I suppose 'coward' is the operative word in this case.
Erastus
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4:36pm Fri 9 Oct 09
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=33uSVd9-x
zM
Erastus
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4:45pm Fri 9 Oct 09
That is why the readers of News Shopper have taken up the fight against this evil organisation.
Local lady
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4:50pm Fri 9 Oct 09
cliff hay wrote:He obviously doesn't have a proper job then - does he live off benefits?
It is not true the Cllr Paul Golding is doing nothing, in fact he is a very busy man, that's why he can't get to Swanley. He is BNP Projects Co-ordinator and according to their website he has been very pro-active in September he was in Swindon speaking about the illegal war in Afghanistan and how, in his opinion, it is making the threat of terrorism worse. According to other websites he has been all across the country campaigning, driving lorries and assisting with the European elections. He does remember wherever he is though that he is a Councillor, just can't remember that he is supposed to visit the place occasionally and represent the people. So if he is so busy and so important why, oh why, did he personally stand in Swanley instead of someone else in his party that would have more time. oh by the way answer my questions and I of course will answer yours.
Erastus
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4:55pm Fri 9 Oct 09
A bit like Hitler did.
Erastus
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4:59pm Fri 9 Oct 09
It seems so in Golding's case.
Erastus
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5:03pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Whose views were somewhat foreboding
He took to the sofa
Because he's a loafer
And didn't like News Shopper's scolding
Erastus
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5:19pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Who wished he was posher
He offered some views
But give him his dues
His views held more holes than a washer
Shadow 99
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5:20pm Fri 9 Oct 09
cliff hay wrote:chichester ? who posted from there ? btw you never said which political party you support ? erastus said he wasn't sure and local lady has not said either what about you ? only,if everyone of you says you are not sure then something is very fishy about this whole business on here which proves it is nothing other than a smear!
Sorry I forgot - is Chichester in Swanley?
Erastus
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5:26pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Whose psyche was incredibly shallow
He asked silly questions
To the News Shopper veterans
And proved his thought-processing fallow
Pete Beat
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5:29pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Sayso
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5:37pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:Since you're a rare specimen of a BNP supporter who can write the alphabet from A to F, and in the right order no less, I'll be honest and answer your question. I have no political bias or leanings whatsoever. I'm not a member of any party nor do I support any particular party. I have no clue who I will vote for at the next election. It certainly won't be the BNP ... by far the worst of a bad bunch.
which political party do you support a) dartbored ? b) erastus ? c) sayso ? d) local lady ? e) cliff hay ? f) clive 2 ?
Now, what exactly is 'fishy' about not knowing what party to support? Just because you wear your swastika-shaped heart on your sleeve as a BNP follower doesn't mean that everyone has to take a side.
Since we're in Q&A mode I don't suppose there's any danger of you or any of your other clones answering the simple questions asked on here of Paul Golding? No? Thought not.
Erastus
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5:45pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Who felt fit to take the NS on
He offered a bet
We accepted but yet
He continues to be a complete moron
Shadow 99
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5:49pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:52pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:You really ARE on the ropes now, aren't you?
if proof was ever needed that this thread is nothing other than a smear attack against the bnp when twenty names appear all supposedly outraged local residents, yet none of them can say which political party they support ? it's laughable that not a single resident can say who they support-which proves that it's probably a single disturbed person let loose on the computer as part of it's rehabilitation recovery programme-let's hope there are no hardware shops open because i would not want my family anywhere near such nasty anti bnp people!
Where is Golding?
Erastus
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5:54pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:55pm Fri 9 Oct 09
cockles & mussels
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5:57pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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5:59pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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6:02pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:Shadow, it might do you a favour to learn about capital letters and full stops.
There once was a poster called Duron Who felt fit to take the NS on He offered a bet We accepted but yet He continues to be a complete moron
It's basic English, after all.
Erastus
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6:04pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Still, at least I can admit to it.
Why can't Golding admit to his errors?
Erastus
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6:07pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Shadow 99 wrote:Now please allow me to correct myself.
if proof was ever needed that this thread is nothing other than a smear attack against the bnp when twenty names appear all supposedly outraged local residents, yet none of them can say which political party they support ? it's laughable that not a single resident can say who they support-which proves that it's probably a single disturbed person let loose on the computer as part of it's rehabilitation recovery programme-let's hope there are no hardware shops open because i would not want my family anywhere near such nasty anti bnp people!
"Shadow, it might do you a favour to learn about capital letters and full stops.
It's basic English, after all."
That's better. If only certain other people would be so upfront and honest ...
Erastus
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6:12pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Perhaps Golding would like to admit to his mistakes?
Erastus
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6:16pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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6:19pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Erastus
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6:21pm Fri 9 Oct 09
They seem to be willing to sell their souls to you, so why not?
Erastus
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6:32pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Still, I doubt you will answer my question. Eh?
Erastus
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6:35pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Golding, please come forth.
Erastus
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6:39pm Fri 9 Oct 09
The answer, Goldy, is very clear. It has been the BNP stormtroopers.
Be a man, Golding.
Erastus
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6:42pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Perhaps they need a reminder, so here it is:
http://www.newsshopp
er.co.uk/yoursay/blo
gs/4668054.A_PICTURE
_PAINTS_A_THOUSAND_W
ORDS/
cockles & mussels
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6:57pm Fri 9 Oct 09
Local lady
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7:31pm Fri 9 Oct 09
clive2
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8:43pm Fri 9 Oct 09
(well at least the ones that vote for him).
I like to keep who I vote for a secret. It's my perogative, like a woman and her age, a man and his voting choices! I did once meet Nick Griffin he reminded me of HITLER on speed.
Is Colchester or Croydon in Swanley?
Has Golding answered the questions?
Is the Pope a jew?
The lorry he drives is called the truth truck or the lie lorry, well he knows about that.
Some of his mates:BNP members:
Ian Hindle -jailed for 3 years for having sex with a child (November 2008)
Richard Mulhill, the BNP's council group leader in Calderdale was sentenced to 200 hours or unpaid work on four counts of benefit fraud branding him thoroughly dishonest. (December 2006).
There's pages and pages of these BNP members
Happy Divali (okay I'm a bit early)
' I just like the fireworks'
Surrey Borders
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9:35am Sat 10 Oct 09
Posting up criminal convictions from past and present BNP`rs may sound very damaging until one realises that searching on any of the search engines available for Conservative ~ Liberal Democratic ~ and Labour criminal convictions, brings hundreds of convictions recorded by these parties too!
The BNP are here to stay, they have been elected into many levels of Government, and are supported by ethnic minorities as well as whites who feel they are no longer represented by politicians ~ even though the far left will deny this fact. All in all, the above is a rather weak attempt at damaging the BNP ~ but did make amusing reading at how weak and childish it was put together with multiple postings within minutes of each other.
Dartbored
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11:22am Sat 10 Oct 09
Surrey Borders wrote:Another BNP supporter, another post littered with spelling mistakes. And you wonder why we think we're intellectually (as opposed to intellectuaility) superior?
The anti BNP`rs think they are far more intellectuaility superior in any argument ~ in the meantime, the British National Party are now representing the electorate at Council level, County Council level, and in the European Parliment with two MEP`s ~ scaremongering, and smearing has little or no affect, and so, the far left is left with scrambling onto the internet airways hoping thousands of outraged residents will log on and see threads like this ~ the reality is, this has been tried before, and telling people not to vote for the BNP without giving them an alternative is hopeless and futile.
Posting up criminal convictions from past and present BNP`rs may sound very damaging until one realises that searching on any of the search engines available for Conservative ~ Liberal Democratic ~ and Labour criminal convictions, brings hundreds of convictions recorded by these parties too!
The BNP are here to stay, they have been elected into many levels of Government, and are supported by ethnic minorities as well as whites who feel they are no longer represented by politicians ~ even though the far left will deny this fact. All in all, the above is a rather weak attempt at damaging the BNP ~ but did make amusing reading at how weak and childish it was put together with multiple postings within minutes of each other.
Feel free to post further comments, but only return when:
a) You can spell
b) You live somewhere even remotely linked to the actual story you feel the need to comment on
PS: I notice that Paul Golding is still too cowardly to defend himself on this message board and instead, is STILL relying on his illiterate "comrades" to fight his battles for him, even though they're doing a pretty dismal job.
Bring on the next cretin, there seems to be a never ending supply....
Brendan Macpherson
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11:34am Sat 10 Oct 09
betty hills
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11:48am Sat 10 Oct 09
Nosher 2
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1:24pm Sat 10 Oct 09
cliff hay
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1:28pm Sat 10 Oct 09
clive2
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2:27pm Sat 10 Oct 09
Let's Agree To Differ
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2:53pm Sat 10 Oct 09
fact-show...classic!
Local lady
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5:10pm Sat 10 Oct 09
I was prepared to listen to him as I was to the other parties but his arragance in not replying to this thread has angered me. Why is it possible to print and deliver leaflets slamming a local paper within days of being questioned but not to face his questioners online?
Why do we not get helpful leaflets through our doors rather than his political twaddle?
To be honest I'm the sort of person he should be campaigning to get on his side (I'm white and know how to write an X in a box) but instead he is alienating himself even more so.
Swanley is goinf to be a lively palce come the next election.
BRING IT ON - US DECENT FOLK ARE WAITING FOR YOU GOLDING!
Local lady
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5:27pm Sat 10 Oct 09
http://www.narutowal
lpaper.biz/streaming
/bnp-cllr-paul-goldi
ng/eLXAKi0Kz7A/
cliff hay
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5:50pm Sat 10 Oct 09
Erastus
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7:05pm Sat 10 Oct 09
Still, you live and learn.
By the way, when is Golding going to answer the questions put to him?
haddah welsh
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7:58pm Sat 10 Oct 09
ian jenkins wrote:Typical uaf drunken scumbags!( still littering the streets of Swanley will go down well with the residents who's taxpayers will pay the bill not that you extremist people care too much about that.
yea we met some uaf dudes in the pub and shouted at the bmp nazis off ar streets we threw there papers and leaflets on the floor so we done a good job fellow people on here
At least you've shown yourselves to be what you lot are really like; and please; it's bnp NOT bmp moron! he he
Erastus
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8:29pm Sat 10 Oct 09
haddah welsh
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11:27pm Sat 10 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:When are you going to get a broom and sweep up after your vile comrades? your drunken friends littered Swanley today shouting and swearing in front of children yet you have no comments to make about that eh?
When is Golding going to answer the questions put to him?
Unless you condemn the vile actions of these uaf people you will be guilty of supporting this kind of action in Swanley; now let's hear what you have to say; if you do not answer then it means you support this kind of behaviour
Will you answer the question ? over to you erastus Shhhh...............
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Local lady
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12:00am Sun 11 Oct 09
haddah welsh wrote:Goodness! Of course we don't condone their behaviour as much as we don't condone yours!
Erastus wrote: When is Golding going to answer the questions put to him?When are you going to get a broom and sweep up after your vile comrades? your drunken friends littered Swanley today shouting and swearing in front of children yet you have no comments to make about that eh? Unless you condemn the vile actions of these uaf people you will be guilty of supporting this kind of action in Swanley; now let's hear what you have to say; if you do not answer then it means you support this kind of behaviour Will you answer the question ? over to you erastus Shhhh............... .................... .................... .................... ...............
Any low life is not welcome here.
Erastus
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12:31am Sun 11 Oct 09
Erastus
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12:43am Sun 11 Oct 09
Do you not feel ashamed, disappointed and let-down that he is hiding in the bunker and banking on you to fight his corner?
Why do you not ask him to defend himself instead of allowing you to take the flack?
I put it to all Golding's supporters that they are flunkies.
If Golding were a man, he would not let you stand up to defend his corner because he was too cowardly to defend it himself.
Tell me, what MAN would cower and let his 'supporters' stand his fight?
GOLDING IS A COWARD!
Let him now defend HIMSELF.
Erastus
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12:46am Sun 11 Oct 09
Answer them NOW!
Cowardy cowardy custard Golding.
All cowards are bullies, aren't they?
Erastus
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12:49am Sun 11 Oct 09
Golding, is it comfortable behind the settee?
Erastus
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12:53am Sun 11 Oct 09
You are a yellow-belly aren't you? As yellow as the stars your Hero Hitler and Himmler liked to see the jews wearing.
If you are a man, you would not take these insults.
Are you a man or a coward?
Perhaps you are just a little rat.
Erastus
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1:00am Sun 11 Oct 09
Be a man and answer the questions.
Why did you lie about the telephone calls from the NS? Why did you post a vile letter to your BNP supporters urging them to intimidate sponsors of NEWS SHOPPER and provide them with telephone numbers?
WHY, WHY, WHY?
Erastus
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1:06am Sun 11 Oct 09
More to the point, why aren't your supporters answering my questions?
You had better get yourself some better stormtroopers because this lot seem only to do Monday to Friday, 9-5.
Still, give them their due, they put more hours in than you, don't they?
Erastus
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1:07am Sun 11 Oct 09
cliff hay
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1:09am Sun 11 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
1:12am Sun 11 Oct 09
There's a good NAZI.
Erastus
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1:16am Sun 11 Oct 09
Let's hope they sleep well because I will return tomorrow to repeat the questions already put them.
It appears that they underestimate our determination for the truth.
Erastus
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1:21am Sun 11 Oct 09
Erastus
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1:24am Sun 11 Oct 09
Sleep tight because the same questions will be asked of you tomorrow.
Erastus
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1:33am Sun 11 Oct 09
Goodnight.
Erastus
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1:59am Sun 11 Oct 09
Golding, will you please do the decent thing and apologise for calling Councillor Underwood a "cretin"?
My cocoa is now ready as will be my coffee when I awake.
Naturally, my question will be awake too.
Erastus
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2:01am Sun 11 Oct 09
Have sweet dreams.
Erastus
Erastus
says...
8:46am Sun 11 Oct 09
Golding, please answer the questions that have been put to you.
haddah welsh
says...
8:59am Sun 11 Oct 09
..hammer attacks in the past, drunkeness, swearing in front of children in Swanley yesterday and throwing litter onto the streets ????????????????????
? drug taking to give them dutch courage?????????? if you do not answer then you will be associated with these vile people who go on and on and on about the bnp as if they were also on drugs........over to you erastus............m
an or mouse ????????????
Anne Gillingham
says...
2:12pm Sun 11 Oct 09
Get over yourself!!!!
Get a date online if you are a frustrated old fool now run along ,im off for a espresso and texting a donation to my favourite political party!!!!! what a hoot!!!!! :)
Erastus
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3:41pm Sun 11 Oct 09
haddah welsh
says...
4:03pm Sun 11 Oct 09
Let's Agree To Differ
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4:09pm Sun 11 Oct 09
http://blackcountryb
np.blogspot.com/2009
/09/councillor-goldi
ng-back-in-black.htm
l
I particularly liked these two bits:
"Councillor Paul Golding was introduced. Surprising the audience, Councillor Golding said that the last time he'd spoken at a Black Country meeting, was when he was just 18 years old, 9 years previously"
and
"Councillor Golding spoke of the task ahead for him, not only as a hard working Councillor, but as one of the leading lights behind the ''BNP media'' campaigns that both the party, and it's bitter enemies, were mightily impressed with."
Looks like he's going to be far too busy to hold any surgeries in Swanley. Maybe he'll follow the precedent set in the Black Country and return to Swanley in 9 years!
Let's Agree To Differ
says...
4:29pm Sun 11 Oct 09
However, this story isn't about anyones political leanings it is actually about whether this councillor is doing the job that he was elected do. So forget about the rights and wrongs of policies and tactics for a moment and answer the questions. Or, better still, see if you can track down Councillor Golding and ask him if he will answer the questions that have been put to him.
much-hope...uncanny! Couldn't have put it better myself!
Local lady
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4:49pm Sun 11 Oct 09
http://blackcountryb
np.blogspot.com/2009
/09/councillor-goldi
ng-back-in-black.htm
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I particularly liked these two bits:
"Councillor Paul Golding was introduced. Surprising the audience, Councillor Golding said that the last time he'd spoken at a Black Country meeting, was when he was just 18 years old, 9 years previously"
and
"Councillor Golding spoke of the task ahead for him, not only as a hard working Councillor, but as one of the leading lights behind the ''BNP media'' campaigns that both the party, and it's bitter enemies, were mightily impressed with."
Looks like he's going to be far too busy to hold any surgeries in Swanley. Maybe he'll follow the precedent set in the Black Country and return to Swanley in 9 years!
And we can go post a comment - unfortunately they are moderating the site so will not let any posts critical of the bnp or Mr G go public - just like their official site.
Scared of the truth methinks.
Anyway I left a message asking for Mr G to pop by here or even visit Swanley. Perhaps I should have left a map reference?
Let's Agree To Differ
says...
5:15pm Sun 11 Oct 09
I only asked when Councillor Golding would be returning to Swanley as his constituents were waiting to attend his surgeries. Not exactly a critical message but not one that they are willing to post.
betty hills
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6:13pm Sun 11 Oct 09
D Mallard
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6:34pm Sun 11 Oct 09
k/index.php?pg=show&
c=1616&eid=29UKHK-0&
this=1616 I note with interest from looking through the thread of comments on this story and being pointed in directions to look http://www.newsshopp
er.co.uk/search/6847
98.Burglars_jailed_f
or_30_months_/that Mr Golding’s own brother has been involved with the police due to anti-social behaviour. At another point on this thread one of the BNP supporters suggested that a certain poster would throw eggs at her Auntie Mabel’s windows if that certain poster had Auntie Mabel’s address – how ironic when at the end of the news story this type of behaviour has been perpetrated by a BNP member – yet again the show of anti social behaviour that Mr Golding wishes to put pressure on the police about!
D Mallard
says...
7:06pm Sun 11 Oct 09
er.co.uk/search/4525
878.VIDEO___NORTH_KE
NT__Woman_who_intimi
dated_Asian_mother_w
as_BNP_member_despit
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Erastus
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8:06pm Sun 11 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
8:10am Mon 12 Oct 09
Simon Bull
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9:25am Mon 12 Oct 09
Nosher 2 wrote:Look, I've tyldd, sorry, I mean told you people before that Erastus has nothing whatsoever to do with this newspaper. I know the concept might be a little hard for some to comprehend but we've got no need to generate comments ourselves or pay anyone to do it. Our thousands of readers do a very good job of it on their own.
And arastus works for the micky mouse local press mon-fri posting in loads of different names loser
Erastus
says...
10:59am Mon 12 Oct 09
Simon Bull wrote:And Nosher 2, the reason why I read News Shopper is because I live in the LOCAL area, not because I have been rallied by a leader who has not only told lies but also lacks the courage to defend himself.
Nosher 2 wrote: And arastus works for the micky mouse local press mon-fri posting in loads of different names loserLook, I've tyldd, sorry, I mean told you people before that Erastus has nothing whatsoever to do with this newspaper. I know the concept might be a little hard for some to comprehend but we've got no need to generate comments ourselves or pay anyone to do it. Our thousands of readers do a very good job of it on their own.
Golding, when are you going to apologise for your dishonesty and insults?
haddah welsh
says...
11:59am Mon 12 Oct 09
Simon Bull wrote:Yawn!!
Nosher 2 wrote: And arastus works for the micky mouse local press mon-fri posting in loads of different names loserLook, I've tyldd, sorry, I mean told you people before that Erastus has nothing whatsoever to do with this newspaper. I know the concept might be a little hard for some to comprehend but we've got no need to generate comments ourselves or pay anyone to do it. Our thousands of readers do a very good job of it on their own.
haddah welsh
says...
12:00pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:Yawn!! yawn!!
Simon Bull wrote:And Nosher 2, the reason why I read News Shopper is because I live in the LOCAL area, not because I have been rallied by a leader who has not only told lies but also lacks the courage to defend himself. Golding, when are you going to apologise for your dishonesty and insults?Nosher 2 wrote: And arastus works for the micky mouse local press mon-fri posting in loads of different names loserLook, I've tyldd, sorry, I mean told you people before that Erastus has nothing whatsoever to do with this newspaper. I know the concept might be a little hard for some to comprehend but we've got no need to generate comments ourselves or pay anyone to do it. Our thousands of readers do a very good job of it on their own.
Simon Bull
says...
12:25pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
12:28pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Dartbored
says...
12:40pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:"BNP Wives" was repeated on Sky 3 last night and I watched it for the first time, spurred on by the morons who have plagued this story for the last two weeks. If you can watch it, please do - it's comedy gold. In one scene, a group of female activists were handing out leaflets to protest against a mosque being built. Nothing wrong with that, it's a free country and people are allowed to have their views.
Mr Bull, I cannot wait to read the second instalment. I hope you fully expose the BNP and its unpleasant supporters for what they really are.
But as soon as someone confronted them and presented a reasoned argument, they couldn't actually reply. After a few mumbled comments they packed their table up and drove off in their car.
Which is exactly what we've seen on this thread - BNP supporters giving it the "big I am" and as soon as they're challenged, they scuttle off into the shadows as they haven't the intellect to form any objective reply (as demonstrated by haddah, above)
No matter how Sky may have edited the footage to give it a certain slant, nothing could change the fact that they were all as thick as two particularly short planks.
Simon, I look forward to the update.
cliff hay
says...
12:41pm Mon 12 Oct 09
By the way News shopper she lives in Brooke Road, as she has obviously given permission to give her details out she won't mind me mentioning it. We all know of her anyway. Always after something for nothing.
Local lady
says...
12:45pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Erastus
says...
1:03pm Mon 12 Oct 09
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=33uSVd9-x
zM
Dartbored
says...
1:05pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Pam Riley-Ellington wrote:Paul Golding has confirmed, in another article on this site, that he DID make the post.
My auntie Mabel contacted Mr.Golding who said he has never posted anything on the paper so it look's as if someone is pretending to be him see.
So you're lying, Pam. Plain and simple.
As I've said before, this has turned into a PR DISASTER for the BNP. Insults, lies, bullying....and there's me thinking you were all trying to distance yourself from that image, that you wanted to be taken seriously? Don't make me laugh.
Simon Bull
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1:08pm Mon 12 Oct 09
By the way, thanks for the info Cliff. There is so much rubbish which comes out from the BNP that it can be hard to keep up. I've not seen it myself, but I believe we are aware of the leaflet you're referring to. No doubt it's up to their usual standards.
Postman Pete
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1:29pm Mon 12 Oct 09
clive2
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8:22pm Mon 12 Oct 09
betty hills
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9:09pm Mon 12 Oct 09
Sayso
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10:31pm Mon 12 Oct 09
cliff hay
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7:46pm Tue 13 Oct 09
but Marie Constable of BNP leaflet fame does live at no 20 Brooke Road, only that is not the name she would have letters delivered in, because that is not EXACTLY her name. Its Marie Vaughan Constable and the guy that lives there is called Martin Crawley. Wonder why she would have sent an email (obviously fictious) signing it with the wrong name. Perhaps she 'forgot' herself. Also the photo on the leaflet that is supposed to be rubbish in Swanley, wasn't even taken in Swanley and is used on other leaflets by the BNP in other areas. ROSE the resident association for St Mary's work with the local labour councillors to report and clear rubbish up, but then Cllr Golding wouldn't have known that when he started these lies would he as he doesn't come here or know anything about the area.
betty hills
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3:34pm Thu 15 Oct 09
Local lady wrote:I know this is only word of mouth but a friend of mine knows Cllr Underwood and said he told them that 'No, he certainly, hadn't received any email from this so-called lady called Marie Constable' but then again if the other writer is correct that isnt her real name anyway. Perhaps the Editor will check this?
It would be interesting to hear from Councillor Underwood as to whether he actually received this so called email?
Adam McArthur
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5:38pm Thu 15 Oct 09
Erastus wrote:What's so hilarious about the above paragraph?
The following is my favourite bit from the letter and the more I read it the more I keep laughing: "The News Shopper rag that covers south-east London and north-west Kent is a particularly venomous anti-British leftwing propaganda outlet." I actually had tears rolling down my face!
I would love to do a stand-up show in front of a UAF audience if they're as easy to amuse as Erasmus is.
I could charge them all £25.00 a ticket and repeat the above paragraph over and over again for an hour. I'd have them rolling in the aisles.
clive2
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1:44pm Sat 17 Oct 09
Adam McArthur wrote:Adam from Croydon (in Swanley I presume) - the man's name is Erastus. There you gave us all a good laugh again with your literacy, or lack of it!
Erastus wrote: The following is my favourite bit from the letter and the more I read it the more I keep laughing: "The News Shopper rag that covers south-east London and north-west Kent is a particularly venomous anti-British leftwing propaganda outlet." I actually had tears rolling down my face!What's so hilarious about the above paragraph? I would love to do a stand-up show in front of a UAF audience if they're as easy to amuse as Erasmus is. I could charge them all £25.00 a ticket and repeat the above paragraph over and over again for an hour. I'd have them rolling in the aisles.
demontfort says...
9:37am Mon 28 Sep 09
Designating private organisations as public authorities
If an organisation doesn't meet the conditions for inclusion in Schedule 1, section 5 of the FOI Act gives the Secretary of State a power to designate private organisations as public authorities if either:
* they appear to him to be performing functions of a public nature; or
* they are carrying out functions under contract with a public authority which would otherwise be up to the authority to provide.
The members of the general public noted will also be contacted to find out exactly where this smear has emerged from.