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SWANLEY: BNP wins council by-election

Councillor Paul Golding and Michael Barnbrook BNP candidate for East Wickham Councillor Paul Golding and Michael Barnbrook BNP candidate for East Wickham

THE British National Party (BNP) is celebrating a surprise win at a district council by-election.

Paul Golding won the Swanley St Mary’s ward in Sevenoaks district by 76 votes on Thursday.

It is the first time the BNP has stood in the Sevenoaks District, managing to swipe a safe Labour seat in the Tory-controlled district.

Councillor Golding, aged 27, described it as an historic day for the BNP.

He said: “We organised a very professional and pro-active campaign knocking on every door in Swanley.

“Earlier on in the campaign we didn’t know what to expect but we found that we had huge support in the ward.

“It has been a Labour stronghold for 40 years but I think people were becoming fed-up and were looking for a change.”

Cllr Golding won with 408 votes, with Labour candidate Michael Hogg receiving 332 votes and Conservative candidate Tony Searles 247 votes.

Turnout for the election was 31.3 per cent.

The election came about following the resignation of Labour councillor Lesley Dyball last November.

Cllr Golding, who joined the party in 1999 at the age of 17, as director of publicity, said: “Native British people are sick of being treated like second-class citizens in their own country.

“They are bottom of the list for council houses after asylum seekers and foreigners.

“I will do my best to sort out the problems.”

Councillor Ian Rashbrook, Swanley Town Council leader and agent for the Labour candidate in the by-election, said: “It is a very disappointing result.

“Now we will be working hard to ensure that the BNP do not make any further gains in Swanley or the Sevenoaks district.

“There are lots of reasons why people turned to the BNP, people are very frustrated at the moment and any by-election will be difficult for the Labour Party to win.”

Sevenoaks District Council leader Councillor Peter Fleming said: “It had been Labour’s safest seat in Kent for many years, so this is a terrible blow for Labour.

“I think voters are turning to the BNP because they are scared at the moment, it is an indication of how people feel on a national scale about the Labour Party.”

Comments(108)

MJB says...
10:20am Fri 20 Feb 09

Brilliant. This is what happens when you get voter apathy - the bloody BNP.

Trish & Eddie says...
10:22am Fri 20 Feb 09

Well done bnp we gave you our support - more of the same please !

Terry Williamson says...
10:31am Fri 20 Feb 09

This was on the cards........... the only thing that surprised me was there wasn't a bigger BNP majority.

The main "Three" have let the electorate down........... and when this happens the people will refuse to support Labour or Conservatives who seem to be constantly embroiled in corruption and tax-fiddle scandals while British people are suffering economic hardships with this recession


Linja says...
11:00am Fri 20 Feb 09

And this Party will go on winning seats unfortunately because the main 3 Parties are doing nothing to stop allaying peoples fears on employment, housing, education and having to listen to various'minorities' telling us how awful we and this Country are whilst happily receiving handouts from us.

Brian Sewer says...
11:04am Fri 20 Feb 09

Good result !

Micia says...
11:35am Fri 20 Feb 09

Unsurprising result. Labour has failed on education, immigration, economy, even the morals of its own members and the main opposition parties don't inspire confidence. This was probably the result of protest voting but I dread to think who we're going to vote for in a general election.

Virtual-Monster says...
11:37am Fri 20 Feb 09

The USA, despite being a child of our own democratic process, is able to elect Barack Obama, yet over here we are still electing people with racist, hate-filled, ignorant agendas.

Congratulations to the people of Swanley, you must be very proud! Everyone else with a brain cell and an IQ larger than their shoe size weeps for you.

MB says...
12:22pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Labour has drifted too far to the left and many of their traditional working class woters have been alienated as a result. The problem is that we'll see even more populist quick fixes as the election approaches and that's not going to do any good for the country in the long run, no matter who wins the election.

It's Me again ! says...
12:33pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Virtual-Monster wrote:
The USA, despite being a child of our own democratic process, is able to elect Barack Obama, yet over here we are still electing people with racist, hate-filled, ignorant agendas. Congratulations to the people of Swanley, you must be very proud! Everyone else with a brain cell and an IQ larger than their shoe size weeps for you.
I agree with You.

People of Swanley who voted for this disgusting party should be ashamed of themselves....

Voting in a party that spout hate !

Well done Swanley...NOT

Nick the Lid says...
12:51pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Virtual-Monster, please note that Swanley is split into 3 wards, so not all of us had a vote. Please do not tar the entire population of Swanley with the same brush.

Dr. T. Jennison says...
1:01pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Congratulations Councillor! The good people have had their say ... what a fantastic result ! I'm just about to have a glass of port !

DavidW says...
1:08pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Virtual-Monster!

What exactly is undemocratic about this election result then?

You mention Obama, well its our time for 'CHANGE' now or do I smell double standards, which would be typical of what I suspect are your PC, anti-white, pro-minority, bigoted thinking! You don't fool anybody, we can see exactly the kind of person you are!


It's Me again ! says...
1:46pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Nick the Lid wrote:
Virtual-Monster, please note that Swanley is split into 3 wards, so not all of us had a vote. Please do not tar the entire population of Swanley with the same brush.
Actually that's right.

Sorry if I also tared everyone in Swanley with the same brush

Mabel says...
1:48pm Fri 20 Feb 09

"What exactly is undemocratic about this election result then?"

The fact that the BNP do not represent all citizens equally? the fact that you have to be white to join them, even if you were born in Britain?

Local lady says...
2:09pm Fri 20 Feb 09

I am a home owner and work in a highly skilled profession, who lives in Swanley. To some this seems to be a contrasdiction but believe me withing the ward that voted there are many of us. I have been a life long tory voter (apart from once in Ted Heath's time). I looked to this election with interest and found early on that there were only three candidates. I like to think that if someone wants my vote they will write to me, I may even meet them. The Conservative candidate failed miserably on this score - possibly thinking it was a sure win, so they lost my vote and my husband's vote.The chap in question seems to pop up every time there is an election (I believe was even an independant once) and my feeling was he was after a job and a position not to represnet our ward.
Next I researched the local labour party and what put me off was their constant bickering a back biting in their newsletter 'The Sentinal' - everything wrong in the area was someone elses fault - never theirs! So, my vote went to the person who sent logical, interesting leaflets (and didn't throw them in my garden like some parties did), kept me updated with the campaign and seemed to have a grip on what is wrong with Swanley and indeed our country today.
The BNP has moved on from the bully boys days and are a party to start taking seriously.
The Labour party and the Conservative party shouild start looking to what they can offer residents or be prepared for more disappointment.

Anne Siles says...
2:20pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Mabel wrote:
"What exactly is undemocratic about this election result then?" The fact that the BNP do not represent all citizens equally? the fact that you have to be white to join them, even if you were born in Britain?
Well done BNP !!!

Joar says...
3:15pm Fri 20 Feb 09

MJB wrote:
Brilliant. This is what happens when you get voter apathy - the bloody BNP.
Just for the record, the last time St Marys Ward was contested in 2007, the turnout was 25.56%. Yesterday the turnout was 31.3%.

Therefore BNP participation in this election equals more choice and less apathy.

Let's Agree To Differ says...
5:38pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Shame on those who voted for a party that cannot even live up to its name.

British National Party - a party where being a British National is not enough to allow you membership.


Wobbo says...
5:56pm Fri 20 Feb 09

It's a shame so many idiots assume the BNP is racist. This party want what's right for England not like other parties who rob us on our earnings to give the money to immigrants that sit at home all day on our taxes, get a free house, free gas, free electric even free travel and driving lessons whilst we're out working to make ends meat!
It's only a matter of time before the BNP take over more in more areas as more and more English people are fed up with the way they get treated!
Well done BNP

Let's Agree To Differ says...
6:46pm Fri 20 Feb 09

I am a British National: I was born in this country 46 years ago. I work and pay my taxes as does my partner and my three children. However, as my parents weren't born in this country the BNP see no place for me here. I would be offered money to relocate. Thanks BNP but I have earned my right to be here.

Read their manifesto and don't get carried away with the spin.

Pete Beat says...
8:01pm Fri 20 Feb 09

I am english, i want to be english, i do not want multi cultural, spineless england.
BNP good luck

Katie Webster says...
8:41pm Fri 20 Feb 09

I'm a mixed-race gal and I have no problem with the BNP

I've read their manifesto and nowhere does it say anything about forced repatriation - perhaps some people are just scaremongering? which so often happens when political left-wing extremists try their dirty tricks to which no one is listening to anyway

The other thing is this - the Labour party are paying illegal immigrants to leave this country and have spent millions of pounds offering cash incentives for these 'illegals' to return home? and it's not even in their manifesto!!!

It's Me again ! says...
8:46pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Local lady wrote:
I am a home owner and work in a highly skilled profession, who lives in Swanley. To some this seems to be a contrasdiction but believe me withing the ward that voted there are many of us. I have been a life long tory voter (apart from once in Ted Heath's time). I looked to this election with interest and found early on that there were only three candidates. I like to think that if someone wants my vote they will write to me, I may even meet them. The Conservative candidate failed miserably on this score - possibly thinking it was a sure win, so they lost my vote and my husband's vote.The chap in question seems to pop up every time there is an election (I believe was even an independant once) and my feeling was he was after a job and a position not to represnet our ward. Next I researched the local labour party and what put me off was their constant bickering a back biting in their newsletter 'The Sentinal' - everything wrong in the area was someone elses fault - never theirs! So, my vote went to the person who sent logical, interesting leaflets (and didn't throw them in my garden like some parties did), kept me updated with the campaign and seemed to have a grip on what is wrong with Swanley and indeed our country today. The BNP has moved on from the bully boys days and are a party to start taking seriously. The Labour party and the Conservative party shouild start looking to what they can offer residents or be prepared for more disappointment.
Silly silly lady !

You have just voted for a party who prout hate and all because their leaflets were nice !

Let's Agree To Differ says...
8:57pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Katie Webster you may not have a problem with the BNP but as a mixed race girl they will have a problem with you. I've copied and pasted info from their website. Are you sure they are the right party for you?

"To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question." copied from BNP website - bnp.org.uk/policies-
2/immigration/


SECTION 2: MEMBERSHIP
2) The indigenous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of ‘Indigenous
Caucasian’ consist of members of: i) The Anglo-Saxon Folk Community; ii) The Celtic
Scottish Folk Community; iii) The Scots-Northern Irish Folk Community; iv) The
Celtic Welsh Folk Community; v) The Celtic Irish Folk Community; vi) The Celtic
Cornish Folk Community; vii) The Anglo-Saxon-Celtic Folk Community; viii) The
Celtic-Norse Folk Community; ix) The Anglo-Saxon-Norse Folk Community; x) The
Anglo-Saxon-Indigeno
us European Folk Community; xi) Members of these ethnic
groups who reside either within or outside Europe but ethnically derive from them.
3) Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over
and whose ethnic origin is listed within Sub-section 2 - copied from BNp website - bnp.org.uk/Constitut
ion


JPG says...
9:11pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Well done BNP

Perhaps this shows everyone the country as a whole is fed up with our laws and life style being shaped to fit in with a multi cultural society,our way of life is at risk.
Immigrants housed first,given everything for free,given a vote(to keep labour in).
Anyone that is saying you should be ashamed to vote for the BNP needs their head testing.
You should be ashamed if you dont,if you are happy with this coutry of ours being spineless and seen as a soft touch by the rest of the world for any immagrant to come and stay for free and drain us dry.
All of you that say bully boys and so on is so out of date.

Its nothing to do with bully boy tactics, its a party that will give this country back something it lost or rather was given away by the others a BACK BONE.

As a wise man said "The Bulldog Will Rise Again"
And put the Great back in to Britain.

Local lady says...
9:47pm Fri 20 Feb 09

It's Me again !, says...
8:46pm Fri 20 Feb 09
Local lady wrote:
I am a home owner and work in a highly skilled profession, who lives in Swanley. To some this seems to be a contrasdiction but believe me withing the ward that voted there are many of us. I have been a life long tory voter (apart from once in Ted Heath's time). I looked to this election with interest and found early on that there were only three candidates. I like to think that if someone wants my vote they will write to me, I may even meet them. The Conservative candidate failed miserably on this score - possibly thinking it was a sure win, so they lost my vote and my husband's vote.The chap in question seems to pop up every time there is an election (I believe was even an independant once) and my feeling was he was after a job and a position not to represnet our ward. Next I researched the local labour party and what put me off was their constant bickering a back biting in their newsletter 'The Sentinal' - everything wrong in the area was someone elses fault - never theirs! So, my vote went to the person who sent logical, interesting leaflets (and didn't throw them in my garden like some parties did), kept me updated with the campaign and seemed to have a grip on what is wrong with Swanley and indeed our country today. The BNP has moved on from the bully boys days and are a party to start taking seriously. The Labour party and the Conservative party shouild start looking to what they can offer residents or be prepared for more disappointment.
Silly silly lady !

You have just voted for a party who prout hate and all because their leaflets were nice !

Not at all. If you read my post properly you would see that I researched the subject and did not vote with preconceived ideas as you would have done.

chrome says...
9:58pm Fri 20 Feb 09

virtual monster? You must be the people the BNP wish to get rid off & I appreciate that you don't like it but this country belongs to the British & they have had a lot to put up with over the past 100 years.
perhaps it's time you demonstrated a bit of respect for these generous & noble hearted people before you get carried away with your socialist mentors. To be fair though the ethnic minorities in the UK are as much victims of the New World Order communists as the indigenous people's whose democracy you were invited in to dilute & render meaningless. Divide & Rule is the reason an old & tired british colonial trick, still works obviously. My advise is buy a piece of land in your homeland as the UK is no longer going to be a soft target.

Virtual-Monster says...
10:42pm Fri 20 Feb 09

chrome wrote:
virtual monster? You must be the people the BNP wish to get rid off & I appreciate that you don't like it but this country belongs to the British & they have had a lot to put up with over the past 100 years. perhaps it's time you demonstrated a bit of respect for these generous & noble hearted people before you get carried away with your socialist mentors. To be fair though the ethnic minorities in the UK are as much victims of the New World Order communists as the indigenous people's whose democracy you were invited in to dilute & render meaningless. Divide & Rule is the reason an old & tired british colonial trick, still works obviously. My advise is buy a piece of land in your homeland as the UK is no longer going to be a soft target.
I am indeed one of the people the BNP wish to get rid of. I am a white man, English, born of English parents, and English grand parents, I am educated to a standard where I can think for myself, I work full time, I pay tax, I do not participate in violence or bullying and I stand up for those people who are excluded from mainstream society. Of course the BNP want rid of me!

I am not fooled by BNP PR, I am not fooled by their new glossy look, I am not fooled by their words. The BNP are Nazis and just like in the thirties in Germany, the BNP are targeting indigenous people with untruths and misdirection to move the focus away from the true causes of the problems this country faces and place the cause at the door of immigration.

A wide range of socioeconomic factors have destabilised this country and opened the door for hate mongers to manipulate truth to achieve their own warped, ill-educated goals. This country is not perfect, it has never been perfect. The BNP is an organisation based on separatism, isolationism and hatred.

We don’t need our country to be divided further; we need to heal, to learn, to grow and to progress.



Let's Agree To Differ says...
11:04pm Fri 20 Feb 09

Well said Virtual-Monster.

As they say there's non so blind as those that cannot see.

If only people realised how they are being manipulated by BNP.




JPG says...
2:00am Sat 21 Feb 09

Its time to stop the manipulation and think for ourselves.

As the people of swanley have, you need to remove the blinkers and look around.
See the problems for what they are and not what you are told.

How can a country heal without finding out and dealing with the real problems.
Yes we do need to learn, but to learn people need to listen.

And to be open to reality,and not to **** foot around the reality to make people happy.

The only thing that you said right Virtual-monster was IT IS OUR COUNTRY, but now we need to rebuild it.

Ronnie gravel says...
9:29am Sat 21 Feb 09

There is nothing wrong with the BNP policy of membership. If you were 'white' and a police officer you could not join the 'black police officer's association' or the many other dozens of organisations in this country which stipulate 'race' or 'colour' requirements........
.it's there if you open your eyes
As for the rest of 'let's agree to differ'.............
complaints I cannot see what the problem is of a) no more immigration b) illegal immigrants and criminals deported c) resettlement programe introuduced for those WISHING to take up the offer

I know of many immigrant families voting BNP because they say they want £50,000 cash lump sums to return home because THEY say this country is sliding down the pan with uncontrolled immigration-yes they are saying this too! the calling of the BNP nazis etc was something that used to work in this country against the BNP.......not anymore, people can see the REAL nazi's are the ones at number ten downing street with their ILLEGAL wars IGNORING ONE MILLION people who demonstrated against the war and pressed ahead killing thousands of men women and children in Iraq...............a
llowing 3 million immigrants to come to this country to work as cheap labour and putting British people out of work then falsley saying 'British jobs for British workers' not forgetting how these facists they bailed out their friends in the banking industry with Bitish tax-payers cash only to see these fat-cats award themselves massive bonuses for NOT doing their jobs properley!

I agree with the BNP and so do many other ordinary members of the public who've had enough of these facists in ten downing street, so I suggest we just get used to the BNP because they are NOT going away and as proven by this result.........they are becoming very popular

Liam i9 says...
11:27am Sat 21 Feb 09

Can I just thank Cllr Golding, already, he has telephoned me to say he was on the case of an exsisting on going problem I have had for some six months ... this problem has been resolved with a couple of telephone calls from newly elected Cllr Golding.

This new Councillor has been in the job just one day and promised he would act if he was elected when he spoke to me on my doorstep. All I can say is that this is the first time anyone in twenty years has dealt with a local issue so promptly.

Mabel says...
12:58pm Sat 21 Feb 09

What would happen to those non-white immigrants who don't want to be 'resettled' though? There are bound to be lots of second and third generation (at least) immigrants with families, in some cases mixed race families. What happens then? Why should they leave if they were born here?

If the BNP simply want to halt all further immigration and deport illegals, why won't they allow settled non-white people to join their party? After all they claim to represent British people! You have to be white to be British it seems, in their view.

Another thing - the National Black Police Association allows anyone working in policing to join, regardless of race or skin colour.

Swanley local says...
2:58pm Sat 21 Feb 09

Look's like the new candidate has got staight into helping local people with local issues ... well done ... I also think this 'one trick pony' issue about immigration needs to be put on the back burner for the time being ... once the BNP are in office, i'm sure any tinkering with the immigration issue can be resolved like all the main parties seem to do once elected ... say one thing ... then tinker with the problem once elected. Cheers.

Mabel says...
5:56pm Sat 21 Feb 09

The BNP's main issue is immigration, so it's wise to be informed about their stance before casting your vote for them. Only whites are allowed into the party and if they ever had any real power they would push non-white British people who are legally settled here very firmly to the back of the queue for housing, school places, civil rights etc... thereby making life so difficult many would have to leave. Which is of course the idea as their leader has stated his wish for an 'all-white Britain'.

marcoscu says...
6:20pm Sat 21 Feb 09

Well done the BNP!
The Guardian readers and muesli eaters may not like it but the political tide is starting to turn and this result is one of the many signs of the awakening of the the British people.
For too long foreigners and supporters of alien cultures have been imposing their views upon us. Now that they see their places at the trough are under threat our NuLab masters and their lickspittles are running scared.
Roll on the EU elections!

Kevin-L says...
6:29pm Sat 21 Feb 09

The BNPs has lot's of important issues, immigration is one of them and I can't see what's so bad about wanting to stop completly any futher immigration... we are only a small island and the majority view amongst all my work colleagues is that enough is enough, no one wants any forced repatriation of settled immigrants at all, and it's certainly not the case that the BNP proposes forced repatriation in any shape or form. I think we should respect the people of Swanley decision to elect a perfectly registered political party and let them get on with the job.

joanne-f says...
7:36pm Sat 21 Feb 09

I'm now ashamed to say I live in swanley!
Fortunately though I don't live in the st Mary's ward, so I can hold my head up high, at least I played no part in voting in the disgusting BNP candidate. For those of you that did, I say "Shame on you!"
As someone else has already also said on this subjct..."please don't judge all swanley people Alike" The brainless, bigoted,sheep that voted for this discriminating,racis
t party are not speaking for us all.

MrsW2b says...
8:07pm Sat 21 Feb 09

joanne-f wrote:
I'm now ashamed to say I live in swanley! Fortunately though I don't live in the st Mary's ward, so I can hold my head up high, at least I played no part in voting in the disgusting BNP candidate. For those of you that did, I say "Shame on you!" As someone else has already also said on this subjct..."please don't judge all swanley people Alike" The brainless, bigoted,sheep that voted for this discriminating,racis t party are not speaking for us all.
Are you not discriminating against people for their political beliefs? I thought equal opportunities meant equality for all not only those that share the same political views as yourself? I am sure most equal opportunities policies are worded to include race, religion, disability, political views, sexuality and gender to name but a few!

The fact is the BNP is a valid political party and people are free to vote for them if they wish, political discrimination is becoming a major issue and is maybe one that should be looked into more, surely in this day and age people should be free to believe in whatever they like even if you disagree with it.

I dislike Labour intensely for what they have done to this country but I don't insult people I have never met and I don't make generalisations about the people that chose to vote for them, it is down to individual choice and if we are to have a fair society then everybody should be able to agree and disagree with each other and more importantly agree to disagree.

People have a right to vote, they have a right to decide who to vote for and if they decide that the BNP are the better people for the job and lots of people agree with them then the BNP will quite rightly and fairly win seats just the way the other major political parties do and have done for many years.

Congratulations to Councillor Golding.

Happy Bunny says...
8:12pm Sat 21 Feb 09

joanne-f wrote:
I'm now ashamed to say I live in swanley! Fortunately though I don't live in the st Mary's ward, so I can hold my head up high, at least I played no part in voting in the disgusting BNP candidate. For those of you that did, I say "Shame on you!" As someone else has already also said on this subjct..."please don't judge all swanley people Alike" The brainless, bigoted,sheep that voted for this discriminating,racis t party are not speaking for us all.
The majority of people in St.Mary's ward voted for what they wanted

I'm delighted wit the result and if you dont like it just move out if you feel so strongly over the issue
p.s. please just move to a very high immigrant populated area to prove to yourself you are happy with that otherwise you are a hypocrite!

joanne-f says...
11:09pm Sat 21 Feb 09

You just dont get it do you...all can think about is hatred, blame, and how hard done by you think you are.
Some of You say labour are to blame,others say conservative's...Wel
l were all to blame!
For the state of this town, for the problems Britain is facing, the world financial condition and planetary abuse!
You, me, and everyone of us, in this our rich, wasteful, over privileged western world.
We dont go to bed hungry, REALLY HUNGRY! OR thirsty, and we have the nerve to whinge whine about our lot.
Even if were sadly unlucky enough to loose our jobs, and our homes. We still won't starve or die of disease's of neglect.

We squander our money and resources, on trivia.
We blame anyone but ourselves,for the state of our country and the world and it's ecconomy.
it's not just Britain's masters or any one political party that have caused the crisis we are now facing.
And it certinly isn't anything to do with, immigrants or Britains that happen to have their roots in another country...nearly all of us do if you go far enough back.
WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PLANET, ON WHICH WE COULD ALL LIVE IN PEACE, PLENTY AND HAPPYNESS, IF ONLY WE COULD LEARN TO SHARE FAIRLY, WORK TOGETHER, AND BE LESS GREEDY and SELFISH.
The road some of you are on is the road our father's and grandfather's gave their lives to prevent...Hitler's Nazi fascist state.
You shame them you, you shame all decent civilised and humane people.
If all you want is to shift the blame onto others, why don't you move to another planet preferably...go and destroy that one too!!


Peacelover says...
12:12am Sun 22 Feb 09

Joanne-f you are so right. This is so scary because the BNP is clever and using disadvantaged people's(or people who perceive themselves to be disadvantaged)fears. No-one wants to examine themselves and find they are wanting, so it is easier to blame others. I would like to know what the good people of Swanley might do if all the immigrants that work in the health service, education and the jobs that most people do not want to do were repatriated. These people do not think about all those who represented the British Empire who have fought for Britain in many conflict. I know my partner would be very proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with a Gurkha in a tight spot. I would also be interested to better understand how you qualify as an immigrant, how far would we go back? How many people have Irish blood, what about Jewish and Polish...or is this about colour? I too am ashamed that I have an association with Swanley, but more than anything I am scared for our future. It is not about turning on people, it is better achieved by working together for solutions. We should be motivated by love for our fellow men and work together for a greater good. Finally, when all the 'immigrants' have 'gone home' how will the good burghers of dine on a Saturday evening?

joanne-f says...
2:11am Sun 22 Feb 09

Thank goodness for your words of sanity peacelover, west kingsdown.
I too fear for the future if these 'Blame it on the...' folk have their way.
When they have finished blaming immigrant's, who will they blame next?
The disabled, the elderly? Saying they cost too much and are a drain on society.

As you rightly say we've been and are glad enough for the commonwealth counties, and other nation's peoples, help in times of war, or to do our dirty jobs etc.
If we could only realise that more could be accomplished by caring about each other, and working at making his a better world for all.
We are really a global village, travel almost any where in the world is possible, relatively easily. Trade with other countries is a necessity.
We can not close ourselves off from the larger world, even if we wanted to.
So why not embrace this realization, and work at making it a fairer world for all.
Maybe then less people would feel the need to leave their own homelands, to come to this country for a better life, as we also do, by going to places like Australia incidentally.

Britain has a history of exploration to further trade, and also exploitation to strip countries of their assets. The price of both of these has enriched our community with a wide diversity of peoples and cultures.
If we wanted to stay insular, we should have stayed a home and not ventured out to the world ourselves.

kaz 9i says...
12:46pm Sun 22 Feb 09

I have no problem with the bnp.

The results proved that is what the majority wanted.

Just except the bnp are here to stay and that they are becoming more and more accepted in british society.

Im not a big fan of sinn fein but even yesterday bbc news24 broadcaste their political annual conference meeting live from dublin,which kind of proves that killers and bombers of men women and children who now wear suits are accepted by the british tv companies and the british govt.

I guess we just have to be more tolerant of other political parties ~ nothing more to say is there really,they were elected in a fair and proper election ~ end of!



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Peacelover says...
1:40pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Kaz 9i, I think you will find my worry is not about the application of due process in the election. But, rather the insidious wickedness which motivates people's voting behaviour, in particular greed, hate and an abject lack of compassion and social responsibilty. Please do not forget that is was the 1929 depression in the Weimar Republic which precipitated the hideous obscenity which was the holocaust. Also, as Joanne-f pointed out, the atrocities were not only visited on people by dint of their race...Nazism then extended to sexual orientation and disability. The WWII was fought for our freedom to express our views, which is why the BNP is able to exist. However, it is for the electorate to choose not to give oxygen to the party's inflammatory rhetoric and ensure the country gets through the recession whilst being inclusive, protecting our poor and weak, fostering diversity and understanding that hate merely diminishes us; does it improve one's life if we see another suffer?

joanne-f says...
2:01pm Sun 22 Feb 09

kaz 9i wrote:
I have no problem with the bnp. The results proved that is what the majority wanted. Just except the bnp are here to stay and that they are becoming more and more accepted in british society. Im not a big fan of sinn fein but even yesterday bbc news24 broadcaste their political annual conference meeting live from dublin,which kind of proves that killers and bombers of men women and children who now wear suits are accepted by the british tv companies and the british govt. I guess we just have to be more tolerant of other political parties ~ nothing more to say is there really,they were elected in a fair and proper election ~ end of! This
Tolerance and the BNP are not words that sit together comfortably I afraid.
Some people have said about 'free speech' the right to own opinions and free debate...Absolutly, I agree, which is why we are able to enter into this dialogue here and now, but if the BNP were ever to gain real power and control... heaven help us! I doubt we would be allowed these prized privileges for long.

Those of you who have been convinced, or are trying to convince yourselves, that the BNP are now some kind of benevolent, benefactor's of salvation, may be fooled, but fortunately the TOLERANT, FREE SPEECH, advocates in British society are NOT.
We respect our fellow man, be they black, white, yellow , pink or green.
The sprouting propaganda, about all the free hand outs foreigners are supposedly getting, is a huge exaggeration, there are just as many lazy, fettles freeloading British people. Similarly there are plenty of very hard working British and so called foreigners, who are ALL contributing to this countries wealth.
And don't forget, yes, we still are a very wealthy country.

There will be no "end of" In a free Britain, the true believers of democracy, will not be silenced so easily!

Gazza 4n says...
2:31pm Sun 22 Feb 09

I read the leaflets that said more or less what joanne-f and peacelover says and still voted BNP

And im voting BNP in the 2009 Euro elections too!

sidnee says...
3:00pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Congratulations bnp we all voted for them in our household and will do so whenever we can.

Good on them!

TruePatriot says...
7:17pm Sun 22 Feb 09

At the end of the day, uncontrolled mass immigration has put immense pressure on the NHS, Police, Schools, housing, transport networks, water boards, power stations and other public services, further draining our already near bankrupt economy in the process.

The Lib-Lab-Con axis, in their ivory towers, have ignored the pleas of the British public who see the disasterous social and economic consequences of uncontrolled mass immigration/ multiculturalism on a daily basis.

It has therefore been left to the British National Party to come to the rescue.

Only the British National Party will listen to the silent majority of the British public and put an end to the neo-Marxist social experiment of uncontrolled mass immigration/multicul
turalism.

Only the British National Party will listen to the British public and get Britain out of the dictatorship that is the EU, saving the British taxpayer £Billions.

Only the British National Party will listen to the British public and put more police on the street, and impose proper sentence, including bringing back the death penalty for child murderers and terrorists.

Yes, the far-left will keep popping up screaming 'Wacist!' and 'Nutzi' at anyone who merely expresses Common Sense, yet this is just a sign of how desperate the far-left and their funders (the Lib-Lab-Con axis) have become.

People can simply just go to the British National Party website and judge them for themselves.

This is an excellent and historic victory for the British National Party, and a sign that common sense is prevailing.

pt-j890 says...
7:37pm Sun 22 Feb 09

joanne-f wrote:
kaz 9i wrote: I have no problem with the bnp. The results proved that is what the majority wanted. Just except the bnp are here to stay and that they are becoming more and more accepted in british society. Im not a big fan of sinn fein but even yesterday bbc news24 broadcaste their political annual conference meeting live from dublin,which kind of proves that killers and bombers of men women and children who now wear suits are accepted by the british tv companies and the british govt. I guess we just have to be more tolerant of other political parties ~ nothing more to say is there really,they were elected in a fair and proper election ~ end of! This
Tolerance and the BNP are not words that sit together comfortably I afraid. Some people have said about 'free speech' the right to own opinions and free debate...Absolutly, I agree, which is why we are able to enter into this dialogue here and now, but if the BNP were ever to gain real power and control... heaven help us! I doubt we would be allowed these prized privileges for long. Those of you who have been convinced, or are trying to convince yourselves, that the BNP are now some kind of benevolent, benefactor's of salvation, may be fooled, but fortunately the TOLERANT, FREE SPEECH, advocates in British society are NOT. We respect our fellow man, be they black, white, yellow , pink or green. The sprouting propaganda, about all the free hand outs foreigners are supposedly getting, is a huge exaggeration, there are just as many lazy, fettles freeloading British people. Similarly there are plenty of very hard working British and so called foreigners, who are ALL contributing to this countries wealth. And don't forget, yes, we still are a very wealthy country. There will be no "end of" In a free Britain, the true believers of democracy, will not be silenced so easily!
Total bullsh*t!!!

"Tolerance and the BNP are not words that sit together" ....How do you know? this Government does as it pleases and ignores the opinions ot the majority of the population.......Bri
tish people have never been consulted in the last 50 years if they wanted our country to have mass immigration especially over the last 10-15years

"BNP were ever to gain real power and control... heaven help us! I doubt we would be allowed these prized privileges for long".............Ag
ain total speculation........l
et's give them a try!!!


"Those of you who have been convinced, or are trying to convince yourselves, that the BNP are now some kind of benevolent, benefactor's of salvation, may be fooled, but fortunately the TOLERANT, FREE SPEECH, advocates in British society are NOT.
We respect our fellow man, be they black, white, yellow , pink or green............Mor
e trash!!!! give the British people some credit for being able to have some intelligence and work out for themselves what they want politically for this country without extreme left wing thugs trying to change their minds at election times. We respect EVERYONE!!!!!


"The sprouting propaganda, about all the free hand outs foreigners are supposedly getting, is a huge exaggeration, there are just as many lazy, fettles freeloading British people. Similarly there are plenty of very hard working British and so called foreigners, who are ALL contributing to this countries wealth.
And don't forget, yes, we still are a very wealthy country"............
.....If there are British people freeloading, why should we allow foreigners to arrive here and make the situation worse? Thousands of immigrants are STILL arriving in France in an attempt to make their way to the United Kingdom.......they say the are willing to work for £1 an hour undercutting the British minimum wage deal..........they could stay in France but they do not wish to, many say they want to work on the black market, obtain a council house, get free NHS, get benefits, bring their families over once established.........
the list is endless as reported in today's Sunday Express........Pleas
e check out the latest details online!!!!! This country is FULL-UP there are NOT enough houses and flats for British born people let alone any more foreigners arriving here.............the
re is a MAJOR rececssion, this country is NOT wealthy........it just has some very wealthy people who make more money by using cheap labour, and they like lot's of foreigner's to help push down the labour costs for the rest of the workers.


"There will be no "end of" In a free Britain, the true believers of democracy, will not be silenced so easily!"............
You ARE and WILL be ignored.............
Hence the above wonderful result!!!!!!

JPG says...
7:50pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Well said TruePatriot.

I think somepeople may just be slow or are still being sheep.

All they need to do is look around and see, open their blinkered eyes and to not have their thinking controled by number 10.

Be a person not a number.

Have thoughts of your own.

Live for now,the war is over and its not hitler as the scare mungers are going on about(for some reason?).

The BNP is a real party for people who have a mind of their own.

The old immagration card has been used death now by the other parties,and no longer gets the sypathy vote.

The BNP is not just about immigration you need to look beyond it, then you will see the truth about a party that is for the british people and not just doing a job to line their pockets whilst the rest of the country is falling apart.

Mabel says...
8:02pm Sun 22 Feb 09

"You ARE and WILL be ignored.............
"

Err not by that many people or the BNP would be winning seats all over the place when in fact it is a reassuringly rare event!

Most people have more sense than vote for a party without doing a little research to find out what they are really about.

Mabel says...
8:04pm Sun 22 Feb 09

"a party that is for the british people"

As long as you are white and in agreement with their plans eh?

JPG says...
8:27pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Whats wrong Mabel?

Will you have to clean your own house without immagrants.
And your husbands outgoings will go up without the labour.

As for the seats all over the place wait and see, the people are waking up from a 100 year nightmare.

Time is coming to be proud of being British and not to be seen as a door mat for the rest of the world.

And that is just pure sence

JPG says...
8:37pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Mabel wrote:
"a party that is for the british people" As long as you are white and in agreement with their plans eh?
And here we go again.

The old immigration AGIAN.

For information on immigation problem see"Crimewatch" for details.

Mabel says...
8:41pm Sun 22 Feb 09

JPG wrote:
Whats wrong Mabel? Will you have to clean your own house without immagrants. And your husbands outgoings will go up without the labour. As for the seats all over the place wait and see, the people are waking up from a 100 year nightmare. Time is coming to be proud of being British and not to be seen as a door mat for the rest of the world. And that is just pure sence
Not at all JPG, I don't employ any immigrants and if I did it would be on a fair salary. Neither am I ashamed of my British heritage. Nor do I think the immigration system as it stands is perfect - it isn't, hence the need for some reform.

However I don't think a party that refuses to recognise long-standing settlers and citizens as British unless they are white is the one to vote for. There are many people in the country whose families have been here for years who are fully intergrated and productive and yet have immigrant backgrounds. Oddly enough they would not be considered for BNP membership, even though to most people's minds they are British. That tells me all I need to know about their plans.

Mabel says...
8:44pm Sun 22 Feb 09

intergrated typo

Apologies, 'integrated' is of course the correct term.

Mabel says...
8:46pm Sun 22 Feb 09

"For information on immigation problem see"Crimewatch" for details."

You can find many examples of criminals on there, from a variety of backgrounds. Just like there are examples of law-abiding, decent, hardworking people of all backgrounds. I say judge the individual rather than making pre-conceived misjudgements, based on prejudice.

JPG says...
8:53pm Sun 22 Feb 09

Any thing else other than immigration????

The BNP are not immigration officers try to look beyond it.
Then your comments might be taken seriously.

joanne-f says...
6:40am Mon 23 Feb 09

All I can say now is I feel very sorry for any new supporters of the BNP, that do genuinely believe that BNP are going to be the answer to all your or the countries problems.
I can however understand your frustrations with the mainstream parties (and by the way I'm neither a left winger nor a Tory, I don't read the guardian, or even eat that cardboard cereal) but what I would say is if you think Lib/Lab/con are such useless parties, why not get involved in the one nearest to your beliefs, and you can change it from within, if more dissatisfied people did this, changes would be made.
Please don't be fooled into thinking any one party is going to be the answer to all life's and this countries problems.
Running a country is not an easy task, and some of the problems our country and most others are facing now, have very complex routes and some have come about as a result of our modern way of living.
But, we are still a wealthy country, despite all the hype and sensationalism you Can read and hear from people such as BNP to spread fear and irrationality.

But, I can tell from the things many of you have written you will not be swayed, so I'll simply end by saying...Don't forget your humanity, Britain IS a great country, and I can't believe the British people will be so easily hoodwinked , or foolish as the poor mis-guided Germans, who where led sleep walking into the horror of the Holocaust...I HOPE!!!

We have a beautiful world, please cherish it and our freedom. Lets strive to improve it, not distroy it.

AMB says...
10:09am Mon 23 Feb 09

The BNP are targeting the ignorant and small minded sector of the electorate.

Those who vote for the BNP are racist. Simple.

woodyhill says...
11:32am Mon 23 Feb 09

yes the nationalists are benefitting from hard times - despite their list of members being on the internet, or the church of england banning staff from the joining the party (actually maybe that was why...)

as history shows, politics go extreme during times of hardship, so where's the other end of the spectrum, where's the "internationalists" when you need them?

i wonder what mark steel makes of all this...

viv & rob says...
11:38am Mon 23 Feb 09

We voted bnp after seeing all these leaflets and communist rabble bussed into swanley telling us not to!
we are proud swanley people and we dont want it ending up like dumps like croydon! bye xx

Micky 6i says...
12:05pm Mon 23 Feb 09

I don't know what all the fuss is about.

They and everyone else stood for election, there can only be the *ONE* winner --//-- the BNP won fair and square >>> End of matter --//-- a *democratic* process was held and the result announced.

That is what happened >>> move on and stop the grumbling.

MJB says...
12:16pm Mon 23 Feb 09

I don't think anyone is suggesting that they didn't win 'fair and square'. You're right - they stood for election, campaigned, etc, and won so fair play to them for that.

However, I think their councillor's victory speaks volumes about the 408 people who voted for him.

Harry the Hat says...
1:18pm Mon 23 Feb 09

MJB wrote:
I don't think anyone is suggesting that they didn't win 'fair and square'. You're right - they stood for election, campaigned, etc, and won so fair play to them for that. However, I think their councillor's victory speaks volumes about the 408 people who voted for him.
How's you mean bruv?

480 right minded folk voted for what they wanted what's the prob bruv?
I guess the voters are saying right you lot, time to get our own back on those smashing this once great country up and voting for the bnp

Im gonna vote bnp in the euro elections in june and im gonna get me own back on those saying we gotta stick with this s**te running the country bruv

mum2kids says...
4:48pm Mon 23 Feb 09

If wanting your children to grow up with people that speak English as their first language then yes, I think I must be a racist then.

Mabel says...
5:09pm Mon 23 Feb 09

So you are happy to accept those immigrants and their descendants who have a very good standard of English? Many do so!

mum2kids says...
5:44pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Quite right, however, in many parts of the country they do not. They also have no intention of learning English or integrating in the English way of life.

That is why in places like Tower Hamlets in London and Bradford in west Yorkshire white, indigenous people are becoming a minority.

I know many people black and Indian included that are sick of the influx of immigrants that do not contribute to society in any form.

Roman says...
6:12pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Sounds to mke likea few illegals are running scared. Bloody good job to ! If voting BNP means I can once more gain an ethnic origin then I'm all for em. because under the other 3 major parties the words white English are banned. You are white british. Well sorry but I'm not. My great grandparents were born and lived in England my grand parents were born and lived in England, my parents were born and lived in England and so was I. I am not a cross breed English/welsh/Scotti
sh etc etc. I am English. No I am not a racist and have nothing against british people. My wife is a Scot (which makes 3 of my kids British but not me,and my eldest son was born in South Africa, god knows what that makes him )some of my best friends are of mixed race white and black. My best pal before he died was Black, so how I am a racist as some would have you believe is beyond me.
The simple fact is we have more european workers here than we do unemployed british people (thats black or white ) Now thats just europeans.thats not to mention those that are not part of the european union. Now add to that the burden we face with the amount of Imigrants coming here with aids that costs the UK a staggering amount of money, and you got the perfect recipe for disater. Now weather you like it or not, the only hope for this once great country that has been bought to its needs by foriegn ponces and scroungers,is a party that will stick two fingers up at Europe and do what is best for the UK not europe. What you seem to forget is the laws that govern imigration and asylum state you must seek safety in the first safe country you come to. Pray do tell me oh anti BNP posters....How can you travel through europe and claim asylum in England when its not your first safe haven ? For to long europe has been dumping its problems on the UK.
If you dont like the fact we are fighting back...well move to another country and see if you get it so good there ! But I bet you dont !

Mabel says...
6:16pm Mon 23 Feb 09

mum2kids wrote:
Quite right, however, in many parts of the country they do not. They also have no intention of learning English or integrating in the English way of life. That is why in places like Tower Hamlets in London and Bradford in west Yorkshire white, indigenous people are becoming a minority. I know many people black and Indian included that are sick of the influx of immigrants that do not contribute to society in any form.
But those same black and Indian people would not be deemed welcome by the bnp, who are not so much concerned with the subset of immigrants who struggle with English as all the non-white immigrants, regardless of language skills.

JPG says...
6:35pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Ok you all still go on about immigration.

Lets put it this way...

Why are they here?

Why because them and the rest of their people have made such a mess of their own country and made it such a bad place to be.

Its so easy here to get handouts of many kinds, they can get laws changed, free housing,free transport,free NHS,they can create their own communities,use the race card to get anything they want.
Take jobs from british people by under cutting the min,wage that they will work for,making parts of the country no go areas.

All i can say is, if you all sit around and do nothing just wait until the house nextdoor to you becomes the latest hostal for these people.
Then you try to sell it with them nextdoor, you will be stuck there with a house worth nothing.

Just wait till you cant go anywhere without a big issue stuck in your face.

Gangs of immigrants are causing all sorts of problems in many parts of the country.

Dont ignore it it wont go away on its own and will take a lot more than poor attempt at reform to make it look like something is being done.

This country need action before it is too late.

JPG says...
6:58pm Mon 23 Feb 09

A report published in October last year in the Spectator magazine proved that immigration has cost Britain money and has caused huge social problems. The article showed that while the Home Office argues that, through their tax and spending, immigrants contribute £2.5 billion more in taxes than they cost in public services, Professor Robert Rowthorn of Cambridge University has shown how this utterly changes depending on what’s included in the calculation. Add the full costs of those services to which they are entitled (NHS treatment, schooling, welfare etc) and immigration incurs a £5.6 billion loss, he pointed out.

So they are a bargain too

JPG says...
7:00pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Still say its not a major problem, try this.

A House of Lords report on immigration, also published last year, proved that record levels of immigration are bringing no economic benefit to the country. The report says that ministers should urgently review immigration policies as plans to increase the population by 190,000 a year threaten to have “major impacts” on public services and housing.

JPG says...
7:03pm Mon 23 Feb 09

But here is the bit that the sheep see.

Foreign workers in Britain taking British jobs should be protected and encouraged, top Labour Party apparatchik, former cabinet minister and new European Commissioner for Britain, Ms Catherine Ashton has announced

JPG says...
7:08pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Or you could just sit back for more of the same from the other parties.

Britain’s national debt has climbed to a staggering £2 trillion, driven to that outrageous figure by the gaggle of incompetent Tory and Labour fools who have wrecked this country’s economy over a period of decades.

The bill means that each man, woman and child in this country “owe” £33,000 as their individual share for this monstrosity, generated by economic policies which have seen billions handed out to failed banks, foreign aid, illegal and immoral wars and the failed multicultural experiment.

Bank bailouts — where Labour has bailed out greedy speculators who invested in Third World immigrant American housing markets and so endangered the entire Western world’s stability - will make up a mind blowing 147 percent of national income, the worst figure since 1954 and one of the highest in the developed world

Its up to you.

JPG says...
7:18pm Mon 23 Feb 09

You could always vote for this idiot instead of the BNP.

He has his finger on the pulse of the nation(NOT).

Gordon Brown has claimed that “Britain has been brought low by an economic hurricane nobody could have predicted.” This is, however, untrue as the BNP predicted the current events more than a year ago, in print and in speech.

Voters should also be aware that the financial disaster has been accumulating for some time now, and that the Tories are equally complicit in the gutting of Britain’s economy and manufacturing base - which would have offered the basis of the only way out of the current predicament.

Only the BNP has consistently argued for a protectionist economic policy designed to nurture British industry back from the deathbed and to protect British jobs from outside forces.

W R Hearst says...
10:44pm Mon 23 Feb 09

Vile scum,you will get yours.

Roman says...
4:33am Tue 24 Feb 09

well said JPG, but you cant educate morons like virtual monster and its me again, they are big headed know nothing no it alls who spout rubbish from the safety of their pc's but lack any kind of back bone to do any thing....bit like W R Hurst...whos gonna give me mine then ? you lmfao...another keyboard warrior with nothing in his scrotum sack !

hell says...
12:40pm Tue 24 Feb 09

I don't think this new councillor will be running immigrants out of town. Swanley has a very small immigrant community (mainly doctors/restaurant owners). They certainly have more sense than to aspire to living in a council house on the St Marys Estate. His time will be taking up dealing with complaints about Traveller families, burnt out cars, feral children and moans about the council being unable to provide a lovely new council house for their 16 year old daughter who already has 2 kids by different boys in her class. Good luck Councillor. You may find it easier to go back to your previous occupation - an unemployed lorry driver. You should fit in well with the residents of this estate

JPG says...
12:51pm Tue 24 Feb 09

W R Hearst wrote:
Vile scum,you will get yours.
No real answer then?

This goes to show the mentality of the people that havnt got the brains to think for themselves.

Your right Roman, morons cant be educated, they have been brainwashed for to long they probably cant think of an answer as my posts have confused them with too much reality.

JPG says...
12:59pm Tue 24 Feb 09

hell wrote:
I don't think this new councillor will be running immigrants out of town. Swanley has a very small immigrant community (mainly doctors/restaurant owners). They certainly have more sense than to aspire to living in a council house on the St Marys Estate. His time will be taking up dealing with complaints about Traveller families, burnt out cars, feral children and moans about the council being unable to provide a lovely new council house for their 16 year old daughter who already has 2 kids by different boys in her class. Good luck Councillor. You may find it easier to go back to your previous occupation - an unemployed lorry driver. You should fit in well with the residents of this estate
And the prize for the biggest idiot goes too.

Hell who doesnt even know where St Marys instate is.

JPG says...
1:43pm Tue 24 Feb 09

Hell who doesnt even know where St Marys estate is.

sorry i was thinking about hells mentality "instate"

kevin cloister says...
1:46pm Tue 24 Feb 09

im voting bnp in the euro elections in june

MB says...
1:53pm Tue 24 Feb 09

JPG wrote:
hell wrote: I don't think this new councillor will be running immigrants out of town. Swanley has a very small immigrant community (mainly doctors/restaurant owners). They certainly have more sense than to aspire to living in a council house on the St Marys Estate. His time will be taking up dealing with complaints about Traveller families, burnt out cars, feral children and moans about the council being unable to provide a lovely new council house for their 16 year old daughter who already has 2 kids by different boys in her class. Good luck Councillor. You may find it easier to go back to your previous occupation - an unemployed lorry driver. You should fit in well with the residents of this estate
And the prize for the biggest idiot goes too. Hell who doesnt even know where St Marys instate is.
I disagree. I don't know or care where St Mary's is, but Hell hit the nail on the spot. Yes, there are many foreigners in this country who don't contribute to the economy, but they are a drop in the ocean compared to our very own home grown underclass. More than a party that wants to get rid of foreigners, we need the 3 main parties to realise that this is the biggest problem this country has: a third of taxes are spent on welfare payments to 5.4 million (mostly white British working age) people, most crime is committed by uneducated whites etc. etc.

It's obvious that BNP has strong support from this kind of people who probably feel that foreigners are competing for the same benefits with them. And therein lies the real danger of BNP.

chelsea11 says...
1:57pm Tue 24 Feb 09

Good luck BNP!

hell says...
2:15pm Tue 24 Feb 09

MB wrote:
JPG wrote:
hell wrote: I don't think this new councillor will be running immigrants out of town. Swanley has a very small immigrant community (mainly doctors/restaurant owners). They certainly have more sense than to aspire to living in a council house on the St Marys Estate. His time will be taking up dealing with complaints about Traveller families, burnt out cars, feral children and moans about the council being unable to provide a lovely new council house for their 16 year old daughter who already has 2 kids by different boys in her class. Good luck Councillor. You may find it easier to go back to your previous occupation - an unemployed lorry driver. You should fit in well with the residents of this estate
And the prize for the biggest idiot goes too. Hell who doesnt even know where St Marys instate is.
I disagree. I don't know or care where St Mary's is, but Hell hit the nail on the spot. Yes, there are many foreigners in this country who don't contribute to the economy, but they are a drop in the ocean compared to our very own home grown underclass. More than a party that wants to get rid of foreigners, we need the 3 main parties to realise that this is the biggest problem this country has: a third of taxes are spent on welfare payments to 5.4 million (mostly white British working age) people, most crime is committed by uneducated whites etc. etc. It's obvious that BNP has strong support from this kind of people who probably feel that foreigners are competing for the same benefits with them. And therein lies the real danger of BNP.
JPG - unfortunately I do and the lovely Hart Dyke Road. I love your typ 'instate' is probably a more apt name for it. I feel sorry for the elderly residents that have to live in this place.

MB - Its an estate built around about end of send world war. There are many elderly couples who have raised their children there and are law abiding and hard working. Then a very large population of settled Traveller families and single mothers and families who have never worked a day in their lives - I know I recognise these people from school. The immigrants are not a problem in this area and they are certainly not a drain on rescorces as these families are

JPG says...
7:31pm Tue 24 Feb 09

There you go SMALL Minded Hart Dyke Road???

THIS IS ONE ROAD!! NOT a whole ward.

Not all of swanley.

Every town in every city has a road like that.

Most places have loads of them,so how small minded can you be using one road to judge a whole town.

But you went to school with them?

Are you better than these people then?

And you say the BNP are racist when you come out with such dribble as that.
Traveller families are some of the best people you could know.
They have something you will never have,RESPECT for their community.
They look after their old and look out for each other and other members in their community.

They would not run down people they went to school with thats for sure.

And when was the last time you walked to a elderly neighbours house with a hot meal for them.

The BNP are for the community and for the british people that are in it.

Would you even know who lives in your street?

JPG says...
8:24pm Tue 24 Feb 09

Swanley’s estates are formed of rows of 1930s semi-detached houses, populated by families who either hail from the area or moved out of the bomb-damaged East End of London after the Second World War. The area even has a large community of settled traveller families.

Why didnt you just paste the lot in from the Independant uk web site.

When did the war end 1930s?

Idiot Award 2
Racist Award 1

Pete Beat says...
8:35pm Tue 24 Feb 09

This is a traveller family

http://www.thisisken
t.co.uk/margate/Rogu
e-traders-jailed/art
icle-306523-detail/a
rticle.html

JPG says...
9:05pm Tue 24 Feb 09

Warnings of a “race war” between gangs of Somali and Afghan thugs have been sounded in London as the Third World colonisation of this country increases.

As details of the latest stabbing deaths in London unfolds, it appears that they are part of what locals have described as a “race war” between Afghan and Somali youths.

In the latest incident, 19-year-old Somali-born Kul Hawadleh was stabbed to death in Wealdstone, north-west London. He was knifed in the chest by a group of Afghanis who confronted him at a service station.

A friend of Hawadlet, Abdul Hassan, 22, told a newspaper that he had been attacked “in a race gang war by Afghanis.” He said: ‘I’m sure the guys who killed Hassan didn’t know him; they are just targeting any Somalis.

“There was a stabbing on Wednesday, and then yesterday afternoon two of my other friends got ran up to by a gang of guys in bandanas. They are all Afghan or black and they are targeting Somalis.”

Mr Hawadleh’s sister, Ubed was quoted as saying that “We have a real problem in society today — stabbing has just become the norm — it has replaced fist fighting. People’s lives are no longer valued.”

Another friend, 23-year-old Issaq Soul, said: “There is a war going on between the Afghans and the Somalis. The tension has been building. They want to call the shots around here. They are completely lawless.”

Only a few hours later, yet another black youth was stabbed to death in Leytonstone Road, opposite Maryland rail station in east London. Bleir Xhana, 26, who runs a bar yards from where the second incident happened, said: “A customer walked in and said they saw a black guy just lying there on the zebra crossing near the station. I didn’t know what had happened to the boy but I was horrified and afraid. To be honest it is quite dangerous round here.”

Last year, 28 teenagers were stabbed to death in the capital, with only a handful of the victims being indigenous British.

Is this the Britain for which so many people died defending? Is this the sort of society to which this nation aspires?

Where our capital city is turned into a Third World theatre of war between battling gangs from the far corners of the earth?

This tragic situation has been brought about by decades of catastrophic Tory and Labour rule. This, combined with the economic mismanagement which has gutted Britain’s once great manufacturing industry, and the total surrender to faceless bureaucrats in Brussels, will be the collapse of this nation - unless the voting public seize the opportunity to vote for the only party dedicated to putting British interests first: the British National Party

A bit of reality for all you Independent readers.

JPG says...
9:18pm Tue 24 Feb 09

And if you still feel that immigration is not a problem.

Recommended Reading: As recently featured in The Guardian, The Independent, The Times, AFP and in The Australian newspaper: Excalibur Books’ own The Immigration Invasion: How Third World Immigration is Destroying the First World and What Must be Done to Stop It.

This is a shocking book detailing the full extent of the Third World immigration wave which is swamping the Western World. The Immigration Invasion details how all First World nations are set to be swamped by waves of Third Worlders before the end of the 21st Century. Using the very latest available official data and government projections, this book shows how, unless legal and illegal immigration is halted and reversed, European First World nations across all of Europe from Spain to Russia, North America, Australia and New Zealand — will be destroyed and have their very culture and civilisation changed to that of the Third World. Immigration is now the single most important issue facing all First World nations, and will determine whether Western Civilisation continues to exist or not. Finally, this book goes on to provide the only solution to the impending crisis: decisive, reasonable, considered direct political action. It is a political call to arms to save the West.

If you still ignore the truth and say its nothing to do with immigration after reading this you are beyond help.

I think that will do about immigration now that you cant use it again and say the BNP are just racist. its a real problem.

But if thats all you have i feel sorry for you.

Aka ajs301215 says...
2:08am Wed 25 Feb 09

About Swanley's new councillor:


Mr Rustem, a BNP councillor in Barking, is half-Turkish and was born Timucin Rustem.

His membership has been a sore point for BNP hardliners such as PAUL GOLDING, the then editor of Identity, who was expelled from the party after physically attacking Mr Rustem. Julian Leppert, another BNP Assembly candidate and the party's 2004 candidate for Mayor, said Mr Rustem was "okay" because he was only "half-wog".

From the Evening Standard in 2004.


AMB says...
10:35am Wed 25 Feb 09

JPG stop spouting all this nonsense, its one ludicrous post after another. You cannot force the sensible population to agree with you, or agree that in any way the BNP are a good party. That they are not. End of.

hell says...
1:30pm Wed 25 Feb 09

JPG wrote:
There you go SMALL Minded Hart Dyke Road??? THIS IS ONE ROAD!! NOT a whole ward. Not all of swanley. Every town in every city has a road like that. Most places have loads of them,so how small minded can you be using one road to judge a whole town. But you went to school with them? Are you better than these people then? And you say the BNP are racist when you come out with such dribble as that. Traveller families are some of the best people you could know. They have something you will never have,RESPECT for their community. They look after their old and look out for each other and other members in their community. They would not run down people they went to school with thats for sure. And when was the last time you walked to a elderly neighbours house with a hot meal for them. The BNP are for the community and for the british people that are in it. Would you even know who lives in your street?
Small minded - this is from someone who thinks the answer to all of Swanley's problems is to elect a racist councillor.
I used Hart Dyke Road to show I was familiar with the area.

Unfortunately a small number of people, who think laws do not apply to them, can have a very detrimental effect on a Town. Swanley is an excellent example or this. The vast majority are hard working and law abiding but the few make their lives a misery.

Traveller families having respect for their communities. They don't seem to have much respect in Swanley.

I may not be 'better' than the people I went to school with but I certainly haven't sat on my backside while the state supports me.

My family live locally in houses they have worked hard to buy. I know the name of everyone in my street and I've lived in the same house for over 20 years. I haven't prepared a hot meal for a friend or neighbour because they are all fit and healthy at the moment.

I've been reading the other posts that you've pasted from other web sites and publications. When was the last time anyone is Swanley was attacked by an immigrant?????

You're more likely to have the wheels or numberplates nicked off your car.

My security word is bone-them hahaha


JPG says...
2:02pm Wed 25 Feb 09

AMB nonsence,ludicruos.

Its reality and sensible people in the population already agree,its just the idiots that are too slow to catch on.

Ow and hell.
When was the last time anyone (is) Swanley was attacked by an immigrant?????

Well what does that tell you then.





sam ii8 says...
7:02am Thu 26 Feb 09

why so much fuss? we voted in the party we wanted in swanley so all you lot blabbering on here wont change a single thing
cant wait until june 4 we are voting for the bnp in the euro elections 2!

JPG says...
9:15am Thu 26 Feb 09

And its not going to be just Swanley,so get ready to run down a lot more of our country for thinking for themselves.

Mabel says...
10:00am Thu 26 Feb 09

JPG wrote:
And its not going to be just Swanley,so get ready to run down a lot more of our country for thinking for themselves.
I wouldn't call copying and pasting chunks from the bnp website 'thinking for yourself'.

NiceMrTom says...
10:27am Thu 26 Feb 09

100 not out!! are the bnp standing in the euro elections in june?

JPG says...
10:23pm Thu 26 Feb 09

Lol Mabel

So people can still make you do what they want then...

Thanks for the visit to the BNP website,hope it helped clear things in your confused mind.

I bet you didnt just look for those bits,tomorrow i will get you to go to another site lol.

JPG says...
10:44pm Thu 26 Feb 09

Bnp.org.uk has a traffic rank of: 47,514 up(8,649)

Thank you for your help Mabel(every little helps as they say)

swanleyperson says...
8:16am Fri 27 Feb 09

Vote BNP...because the british nazi party are the best.

Mabel says...
8:58am Fri 27 Feb 09

The bnp website traffic is indeed high, because many people want to know exactly what they stand for before commenting from a position of knowledge.

swanleyperson says...
9:54am Fri 27 Feb 09

who cares!! the BNP won, i woted for them my family voted for them, so why dont we all shut up and deal with it?

JPG says...
1:22pm Fri 27 Feb 09

Knowledge????

NOT!

Well said swanleyperson

nhs doctor says...
10:46pm Sun 1 Mar 09

As a doctor working in Swanley I am appalled that the good people who live there have become so narrow minded that they have to resort to bigots and hatemongers.

If you have a heart attack next week or have cancer like Jade Goody, I will probably notice your your skin colour now before prescribing you medication...

- by the way, I am not white...

Take care, fair people...

nhs patient says...
8:19am Mon 2 Mar 09

as a doctor you have signed your contract of employment to treat ALL patients equally regardless of their religion, creed or race.

you don't frighten anyone from voting for the bnp,it's every persons right to vote bnp and there is nothing you can do about it.

please report ANY doctor or nurse you suspect of racist behaviour, watch what they say and do and report them at once,it will be investigated by the management and they can be struck off the register.

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