A Greenwich trainee teacher has been jailed after trying to pay for sex with an eight-year-old girl

Andrew Ibbotson Andrew Ibbotson

AN HIV positive trainee primary teacher who tried to pay for sex with an eight-year-old girl has been given an indeterminate prison sentence.

Andrew Ibbotson, of Frobisher Road, Greenwich, was jailed yesterday (June 21) at Southwark Crown Court.

The 34-year-old was snared after arranging to meet with an under cover police officer to discuss having sex with his two fictitious children, aged eight and 10.

Prosecutor Peter Zinner told the court after agreeing a price of £80 for both, Ibbotson "rubbed his hands together and said 'lovely'."

Ibbotson, a regular church-goer who goes by the name 'hitherqueen' on Twitter, compared Lewisham and Catford to Jerusalem in his blog and also wrote about Osama bin Laden and The Archbishop of Canterbury.

After his arrest in March, police searched his home and discovered a stash of vile child porn on his home computer from levels one to five - with five being the most serious.

Ibbotson was doing a teacher training course at the University of Greenwich and had worked in six schools across London as part of his training.

Mr Zinner said: "The fact the defendant actively pursued a career in teaching was, say the crown, partly motivated by the proximity to young children.

"The fact that such a dangerous and depraved individual, who it seems is also a racist, was working in schools, will send chills through parents and right thinking persons and the crown say it shows how determined this man was to carry out his fantasies and sexual preferences."

Judge Michael Grieve said Ibbotson posed a "significant risk of harm to young children".

He told the pervert: "The picture of you is a disturbing one.

"Online chats show you find gratification in the infliction of pain on young children, with racism and white supremacism part of your fantasies.

"You have been working as a teaching assistant for 10 years, and it is indicative that you have been in active pursuit of contact with children.

"It is both in pleasure and in your profession that you actively seek out contact with children."

Ibbotson pleaded guilty at Southwark Crown Court on May 23 to attempting to arrange the commission of a child sex offence, attempting to pay for the sexual services of a child and four counts of making an indecent image of a child.

He also admitted three counts of distributing an indecent image of a child and possession of 95 indecent images of children.

Police

Acting Detective Chief Inspector Noel McHugh, of the Paedophile Unit, said: "Andrew Ibbotson is a dangerous individual.

"His communications with other paedophiles show intent to sexually abuse and torture children.

"I am in no doubt that Ibbotson would have committed serious sexual assaults had the children mentioned as part of the undercover police operation existed."

He added: "I believe that he has committed other offences and I would therefore urge anyone who believes they may have been a victim to have the confidence to report the incident to police.

"We are here to support and protect you."

To contact the investigation team, call 020 7161 3871 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or Childline on 0800 1111.

Comments(27)

Observantagent says...
11:51am Fri 22 Jun 12

I hope that indeterminate means forever!!! Dirty scumbag - hope he enjoys his time with his fellow inmates!!

ksc says...
12:08pm Fri 22 Jun 12

Observantagent wrote:
I hope that indeterminate means forever!!! Dirty scumbag - hope he enjoys his time with his fellow inmates!!
Totally agree but the sad truth is all to apparent, this is good old soft touch Britain, so an "indeterminate" sentence equates to probably 12-18 months then it's back to business for good old Handy Andy!

Burntout says...
2:12pm Fri 22 Jun 12

Pretty certain 'indeterminate sentence' is what used to be called 'life'. Generally a minimum of 10 years before release considered and then unlikely. About 5,000 in prison with indeterminate sentences because they are too dangerous to release. A few, perhaps 10 are released each year due to exceptional cicumstanes so in other words 4,990 (99.8%) aren't. Sounds like he's gone for good.

lindarose says...
9:00pm Fri 22 Jun 12

piece of s**t

derekhope says...
9:10am Sat 23 Jun 12

A deeply disturbing story given the timescale revealed, and shows the ineffectiveness of CRB checks and demonstrates how limited they are. Sad to say, but probably true, most right thinking people would prefer this man to be removed from the planet rather than have him cared for by the state.

commenting scoffer says...
9:47am Sat 23 Jun 12

...so much for vetting of people eh ? i got a few 'mates' in wandsworth... :)

Jeeepsie Joe says...
11:19am Sat 23 Jun 12

commenting scoffer wrote:
...so much for vetting of people eh ? i got a few 'mates' in wandsworth... :)
What are they in for sex offences Karl ?

genna1310 says...
9:59am Sun 24 Jun 12

Filth! No amount of sentancing reguardless of indefinite or not this man should not be allowed out! He was prepared to pass on HIV to children!!!
Rot evil man rot!

ron,,1952 says...
9:22am Mon 25 Jun 12

Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
commenting scoffer wrote: ...so much for vetting of people eh ? i got a few 'mates' in wandsworth... :)
What are they in for sex offences Karl ?
Karl? Eddie? Sid? Billy? Tom? Erastus? Simon? Paul? Perhaps "mates" and not "inmates" with no no names applies on this one sonny?

Try keeping up "Jeeepsie Joe" I know it's hard for you Boy but you wearing a bit thin around the top now with the same lame excuse for a bit of banter on here using names taken from your list of favourite boy's names,
Ron the Ronster giving out some good advice


Ron

bible scoffer says...
9:40am Mon 25 Jun 12

Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
commenting scoffer wrote: ...so much for vetting of people eh ? i got a few 'mates' in wandsworth... :)
What are they in for sex offences Karl ?
...yawn!! 1/10 'nastymrtom' no wonder you canny locate the latest chit-chat on the local rags anymore like you used to!! ...i'm orf up north now - bit further than dumplington... run along 'wipe' rofl!!

jeepo17 says...
10:06am Mon 25 Jun 12

bible scoffer wrote:
Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
commenting scoffer wrote: ...so much for vetting of people eh ? i got a few 'mates' in wandsworth... :)
What are they in for sex offences Karl ?
...yawn!! 1/10 'nastymrtom' no wonder you canny locate the latest chit-chat on the local rags anymore like you used to!! ...i'm orf up north now - bit further than dumplington... run along 'wipe' rofl!!
Thats bcos they cant google names they have never heard of! lol :p =(

Jeeepsie Joe says...
11:20am Mon 25 Jun 12

DILLIGAF Karl.

I was thinking the photo of Lester the Molester above was more than a bit of a likeness of you chubs.

joker187 says...
10:59pm Mon 25 Jun 12

hope this guy don't get out because he will die as soon i see him on the street of south east london

Barra boy says...
9:40am Tue 26 Jun 12

Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
DILLIGAF Karl. I was thinking the photo of Lester the Molester above was more than a bit of a likeness of you chubs.
You are such a knob "j-joe" "KARL"" is a builder he builds houses he aint got time ta post on newspapers! No wonder the commentators in the forums all think you are a JOKE! :)

The Real Gypo says...
9:56am Tue 26 Jun 12

I feel sorry for his muvver cant!



x

Jeeepsie Joe says...
10:54am Tue 26 Jun 12

Eddie let me guess, not that Skelator looking cant from Greenwich, you mean him, another useless no good scum bag.

Some people need to get their own house in order sheet heads.

" A BNP organiser and former candidate has been found guilty of possessing child ****.

Ian Si'Ree of Vale Road,Rhyl in North Wales admitted making and possessing 138 illegal images of child sex abuse."

Now run along morons....all of you and ya sockpuppets.

Brian Sewer66 says...
10:44am Wed 27 Jun 12

Jeep joe is just a floater who 1 day is sayin some1 is fat then some1 is skinny yet the floater is on face book an 2b honest i wouldnt want 2 say that is my son har hah har

bible scoffer says...
11:20am Wed 27 Jun 12

Brian Sewer66 wrote:
Jeep joe is just a floater who 1 day is sayin some1 is fat then some1 is skinny yet the floater is on face book an 2b honest i wouldnt want 2 say that is my son har hah har
...got your text msg brewer da sewer!! rofl!! oh dear... 'jeepsie kiss' ( cockney slang ? ) is really getting confused lately... lack of a decent holiday break or dedication to 'stupidity' springs to mind!! i mean come on, scratching around using names you dream up!! sob!! same old moronic things with 'jeepsie kiss' .. 'keep 'em peeled boi' ...ooohh really scarey stuff eh ? r-o-f-l!! please do something then!! anything will do!! we are all waiting!! in the meantime 'jeepo' try booking that holiday break as yer cracking-up on these threads!! rofl!!

bible scoffer says...
11:22am Wed 27 Jun 12

...and this pervert 'used' to have a blog as well ? disgusting bacon bonce!!

Jeeepsie Joe says...
11:43am Wed 27 Jun 12

What part of run along don't you understand ? Now run along loosers, go sort out the perverts in your 'party' ( ROFL ), you do seem to attract that type.

As for holidays, LOL.

Gin21 says...
1:13pm Wed 27 Jun 12

Men like this should have their knackers chopped off.

Disgusting vile pervert, hope he get whats coming to him!!!!!

Donna_T says...
1:11am Thu 28 Jun 12

Gin21 wrote:
Men like this should have their knackers chopped off.

Disgusting vile pervert, hope he get whats coming to him!!!!!
Yes I totally agree, and fat men who show off their pecker to the likes of Claudia 'Dogleash' in a car.

Allegedly of course. ROFL

tHANk YoU mates

commenting scoffer says...
10:01am Thu 28 Jun 12

Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
What part of run along don't you understand ? Now run along loosers, go sort out the perverts in your 'party' ( ROFL ), you do seem to attract that type. As for holidays, LOL.
...how come you are never to be seen on the 'other' newspaper comments section these days 'nastymrtom ?' rofl!! the gud guys and gals are posting away and you just never show up!! looks like youse going without a holiday break for all this time has done you no real favours!! ...even ron's photo album on failbook proves the decline!! rof...rof...rofl!! :)

bobbi beauty says...
10:18am Thu 28 Jun 12

saw facebook last week and those pics are sweet babes lol come on lets go on a trip to mid devon soon x ;)

Jeeepsie Joe says...
11:14am Thu 28 Jun 12

Devon.......ROFL

I thought Reculver dahn dah van was so you Karl.

Or you and Tony mincing dahn the front in Brighton like two back to fronts that you are.

Shower Head says...
2:26pm Thu 28 Jun 12

Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
Devon.......ROFL I thought Reculver dahn dah van was so you Karl. Or you and Tony mincing dahn the front in Brighton like two back to fronts that you are.
I heard you are a big events organiser of the "gay scene" on the south coast is that right joe?

Jeeepsie Joe says...
11:27am Fri 29 Jun 12

Shower Head wrote:
Jeeepsie Joe wrote:
Devon.......ROFL I thought Reculver dahn dah van was so you Karl. Or you and Tony mincing dahn the front in Brighton like two back to fronts that you are.
I heard you are a big events organiser of the "gay scene" on the south coast is that right joe?
Who told ya that Sheety Head, old weasel face Tony the imbecile from Burgess Hill. He is the village idiot, well him and June share the job.

THAnK YoU

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