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NEW CROSS: Residents make 'mafia' claim over strip club

Ken Linwood outside his pub. Ken Linwood outside his pub.

FURIOUS residents say they are terrified the opening of a lap dance club in New Cross could lead to “mafia” activity.

Pub owner Ken Linwood is now free to host striptease shows and private lapdances at the White Hart Hotel in New Cross Road after Lewisham Council's decision to refuse the licence was overruled.

Bromley magistrates decided the change to Mr Linwood's pub would not have a negative impact on the surrounding area - despite the council turning down the application in August last year.

The reversal has left nearby residents fuming, with some suggesting it could lead to the exploitation of women and even people trafficking.

Konstanty Sliwowski, who lives nearby in the Hatcham Park estate, said: "It is the most ridiculous decision in the world. I don't know what they were thinking.

"Places like that encourage all kinds of illegal activity and mafia-type characters.

"The council have worked so hard to turn New Cross into a nice area but places like this will lead to more problems in an area of London which already has enough crime."

The 27-year-old recruitment manager added: "It's going to give the police a lot more work to do. If he really wanted to make a living from his venue he should have opened up a nice restaurant with good food."

Meanwhile, John Lumley, 27, who lives in Briant Street just around the corner from the pub, said: "It will lead to more noise late at night, which will upset neighbours.

"Plus it's no secrets these types of venues can lead to the exploitation of women and even people trafficking. The prospects are terrifying."

However, speaking after the verdict Mr Linwood promised to run the club safely and responsibly.

He said: "There's not going to be any trouble at all. It is going to be a responsibly run gentleman's club but with male strippers there for the ladies as well.

"These people (complaining residents) have been bad-mouthing me for ages and they have cost me a hell of a lot of money by giving my pub a bad reputation.

"I don't even want to speak to them. They can shove their complaints."

Speaking in court the pub's head of security, George Malekos, also reassured residents.

He said: "In all my 22 years of experience I have found lapdancing clubs to have the least trouble.

"Anyway, people go to see Mrs Robinson in The Graduate at the theatre. That's got nudity in it. What's the difference?"

Concluding the appeal hearing on January 13, chairman of the bench Danielle Spens said there would be no negative impact on the area.

She said fewer clients would spend larger sums of money per head, and there would be a higher staff-to-client ratio, than other licensed premises.

But the Lewisham councillor for the pub's ward of Telegraph Hill says magistrates have made a big mistake.

Councillor Ian Page said: "It's clear the magistrates did not know or understand the local area. I'm really disappointed by the decision."

Comments(36)

Aunt Jessie says...
11:40am Fri 16 Jan 09

The residents are right to be outraged. Not only are strip clubs/pubs immoral, the innocent girls who are sucked into this dark world are corrupted for the rest of their lives.

Many of the dancers double as prostitutes to pay for the drug habits they will inevitably develop as they struggle to stay awake in order to pleasure filthy beasts of men who ogle their young bodies over pints of beer.

Customers who are refused entry will start fights and damage cars and property in frustration of being rejected.

My prayers will be with the poor girls who will eventually end up in this dark, evil and immoral trade at the White Hart.

Amen.

Aunt Jessie says...
11:44am Fri 16 Jan 09

I hope the bromley Magistrates who gave the go-ahead will not be the first customers through the door when this disgraceful place opens.

Locked and Loaded says...
1:15pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Aunty Jessie have you ever danced in such an establishment ?

'Don' Linwood is just a family man. Mafia my as s, these people watch too many movies. The magistrates were made an offer they couldn't refuse. Bada bing !!

Aunt Jessie says...
1:43pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Locked and Loaded, may God forgive you.

Lizzielooloo says...
2:19pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Do you think Tony Soprano might be there?

I've been to Badda Bink Locked in NJ.

Whilst I have no real objections to strip clubs - each to their own - I don't think I would be happy to have one on my doorstep. I can also see where Aunt Jessie is coming from.

joncook says...
3:54pm Fri 16 Jan 09

I have never so much rubbish in all my life!! Aunt Jessie, I think it's safe to assume that you are one of these people who complain about something thats happened on TV even when you haven't seen it, but everyone else is complaining so it must be bad!! Dark! Evil! Immoral! Drugs! Prostitution! You have clearly demonstrated that you have absolutely no understanding of this LEGAL profession. Many of the girls that do this are paying their way through university or ensuring they can provide for their family and have no illegal tendancies what so ever. Get off your soap box and stop being so judgemental of people. Are you really whiter than white???

Aunt Jessie says...
4:12pm Fri 16 Jan 09

From what you have written I can only assume that you will be frequenting the White Hart in the very near future.

As an ex-social worker, I have seen the terrible effects that stripping has on these poor girls.

Stripping leads to drug addiction which then leads to prostitution because the girls are no longer attractive enough to take their clothes off for the perverts in these pubs and clubs.

Believe me, I have seen it with my own eyes.

As for whiter than white, only God is that, but I am clean-living and do not condone the exploitation of girls in this way.

porkpie says...
4:23pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
The residents are right to be outraged. Not only are strip clubs/pubs immoral, the innocent girls who are sucked into this dark world are corrupted for the rest of their lives. Many of the dancers double as prostitutes to pay for the drug habits they will inevitably develop as they struggle to stay awake in order to pleasure filthy beasts of men who ogle their young bodies over pints of beer. Customers who are refused entry will start fights and damage cars and property in frustration of being rejected. My prayers will be with the poor girls who will eventually end up in this dark, evil and immoral trade at the White Hart. Amen.
Your talking about the illegally run places. Mr Linwood has gone about doing all this through the proper channels, do you think he what's to lose it all now by have drugs & Ho's. You do have some problems Aunt Jessie. Mainly about men, drink and generally stereotyping .......... Do you read The Mail newspaper !

Aunt Jessie says...
4:30pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Men of your kind sicken me to my stomach. I only hope you do not have daughters yourself who ever find themselves in this predicament.

It might be legal in the eyes of the law but it is not legal in the eyes of God.

I do not see what relevance the newspaper I take has to this. Let me guess your choice: The Daily Sport?

Aunt Jessie says...
5:18pm Fri 16 Jan 09

If any readers feel as strongly as I do on this subject, they may be interested in visiting the Forum where I have set up a discussion board.

Thank you.

Locked and Loaded says...
5:37pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Aunty Jessie, am I all bad ? Will God forgive for looking at eye candy.

long-kind...well sort of !

porkpie says...
5:41pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
Men of your kind sicken me to my stomach. I only hope you do not have daughters yourself who ever find themselves in this predicament. It might be legal in the eyes of the law but it is not legal in the eyes of God. I do not see what relevance the newspaper I take has to this. Let me guess your choice: The Daily Sport?
Please don't make assumption about the type of man I am, because we all know if you make assumptions it makes an **** out of u .
My paper of choice is The Times & The FT. I have a few girl mates who have done this type of dancing and they made alot of money and were looked after very very well.

Aunt Jessie says...
5:45pm Fri 16 Jan 09

No one is 'all bad'. The occasional glance at someone you find attractive is perfectly natural and in no way sinful, but to pay money to watch women prostitute themselves for a paying audience is morally not acceptable and can only lead to misery.

Perhaps the next time you have a sweet tooth, I suggest you buy a quarter of cough candy.

Aunt Jessie says...
5:48pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Porkpie, I do not understand why you felt the need to swear in your comment.

So, in your opinion, it doesn't make any difference what a girl does to make money as long as she is 'looked after very very well'.

Perhaps you should buy yourself a pink cadillac and some bling and go into business as a 'manager'?

Sweary Stan says...
7:16pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie shut up ,I know you are a liar and a fake,your comments are predictable and dumb.The romans had the best ideas for christians.Please go away,you make Erastus the pleb look funny and insightful,or are you just him with another name?Either way just stop.

Locked and Loaded says...
7:32pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Stan I think you got Aunty in one. She's a bible puncher.
Aunty aren't you getting any ?

Mabel says...
11:56pm Fri 16 Jan 09

Hmmm, but it's a Christian Country or so I keep hearing, so Aunty J must surely be afforded a voice as loud and trumpeting as possible in these heathen times.

Personally I view an ideal pub as a traditional place to enjoy a drink and a chin-wag with all friendly locals in a convivial atmosphere welcoming to ladies and gents alike.
Certainly not a venue which promotes the concept of furtively paying for a flash of breast, buttock or dangly bit. Bodies are natural lovely things which should not be flogged off for a quick profit in a way that makes a mockery of the fine form that nature gave us.

Suzanne Hammond says...
1:56am Sat 17 Jan 09

If the opening of a strip club is enough to 'terrify' New Cross residents, God knows how they'd have withstood the blitz.

I do realise they all live within the M25 down there, but there's no need for them to behave like it.

LV says...
1:37pm Sat 17 Jan 09

I totally agree with you Stan. The act is getting tiresome now which is why I have been absent from the site and will continue to be.

Gypo says...
1:44pm Sat 17 Jan 09

Get back to Dartford you out of work actress LV.

LV says...
10:34pm Sat 17 Jan 09

Haha luckily I do not live in Dartford anymore Gypo as I have bought my own place with my partner away from there.

And I wish I was an actress haha that would be a fantastic life to have :D

joncook says...
9:05am Mon 19 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
From what you have written I can only assume that you will be frequenting the White Hart in the very near future. As an ex-social worker, I have seen the terrible effects that stripping has on these poor girls. Stripping leads to drug addiction which then leads to prostitution because the girls are no longer attractive enough to take their clothes off for the perverts in these pubs and clubs. Believe me, I have seen it with my own eyes. As for whiter than white, only God is that, but I am clean-living and do not condone the exploitation of girls in this way.
You seem very keen to assume things about people don't you!
Well here is my assumption about you. You are a preacher who trys to force your opinions upon people because you have been brainwashed into believing that your way and only your way is the right way!
People like you sicken me, you are foolish enough to believe that other humans don't have the sense to live their own lives as they wish. We don't want or need your misguided views on how God wants us to live our lives!

Aunt Jessie says...
9:50am Mon 19 Jan 09

May God forgive you for what you have said. Jesus died on the cross so that you are forgiven your sins, do not forget that.

Your brain and soul need to be washed of your evil thoughts against your fellow human beings.

It is not my way, it is God's will that we all fight to stop the evil trade of prostitution.

Repent before it is too late or suffer in Hell for all eternity!

joncook says...
9:59am Mon 19 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
May God forgive you for what you have said. Jesus died on the cross so that you are forgiven your sins, do not forget that. Your brain and soul need to be washed of your evil thoughts against your fellow human beings. It is not my way, it is God's will that we all fight to stop the evil trade of prostitution. Repent before it is too late or suffer in Hell for all eternity!
The only people that died for me are those who have fought it wars to protect our way of life!
It's such a shame that men and women are now dying in wars over the ludicrous concept that is religion! Just so people like you can spout your preaching brainwashing thoughts to others!
I actually feel sorry for you!

porkpie says...
10:31am Mon 19 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
Porkpie, I do not understand why you felt the need to swear in your comment. So, in your opinion, it doesn't make any difference what a girl does to make money as long as she is 'looked after very very well'. Perhaps you should buy yourself a pink cadillac and some bling and go into business as a 'manager'?
I was using a well known saying. Take the first 3 letters of assumption instead of the stars. Can you not see that all you can do is look down on people and see bad not a very christian attitude is it !
You are doing more bad than good for the christian faith.

Joncook well said.

Aunt Jessie says...
11:15am Mon 19 Jan 09

'Forgive them Lord, for they know not what they say' would be how Jesus would defend you non-believers.

God never starts wars, people do. You must have the Devil in your hearts as he is the beast who makes humans wage war.

May God forgive you both. Perhaps a read through the Bible would help you two.

Praise be!

joncook says...
11:25am Mon 19 Jan 09

People start the wars in the name of God!
Only a completely delousional fool would believe that opening a Strip Club has anything to do with the Devil!
Perhaps you should try opening your mind more and reading something other than the Bible.
And for your information I have read the bible as I believe that you cannot disagree with something unless you first understand it! You should try using that concept yourself.

Aunt Jessie says...
11:33am Mon 19 Jan 09

You obviously did not read the Good Book well enough, my dear.

So, do you think that the opening of the strip pub was God's doing?

I think it is you who is deluded on a grand scale.

Amen

Locked and Loaded says...
1:28pm Mon 19 Jan 09

Aunty you never answered my question, are you getting any ?? Not that I'm offering, I just think you sound more than a little frustrated. If you aren't, I suggest ( if I me be so bold ) you go flick ya bean.

Aunt Jessie says...
1:42pm Mon 19 Jan 09

Dear Locked and Loaded,

I did enough bean flicking to last me a lifetime when I laboured for a year as a white slave in a coffee plantation in Columbia back in the early 60s, thank you.

Locked and Loaded says...
1:55pm Mon 19 Jan 09

Aunty please you still never told us, are you in the words of a very dear friend getting any "ladies and gentleman".

Columbia, did you try any of the Bam Bam in Medlin ? The very best, well so I'm lead to believe.

joncook says...
2:04pm Mon 19 Jan 09

Thank you Aunt Jessie, you have just proved that you are delusional. If you have not managed to ascertain that I do not believe in God by now it just goes to show how one dimensional your mind is.

Orp23 says...
4:19pm Wed 21 Jan 09

'There's probably no God... now stop worrying and enjoy your life':...

Couldnt have said it better myself!

Really! Shows what a strong individual that you are living your life based on a book that no-one has ever been able to stump up any kind of solid hard evidence to prove any of these things ever happened!

dannyjw says...
11:26am Thu 22 Jan 09

There are official church records that document the point in time that Jesus was literally "promoted" to the sun of god. Before the new testament was written Jesus was known as another of the prophets.

RELEGION IS THE EARLIEST FORM OF POLOTICTS. ONLY FOR THE CONTROL OF THE MASSES.

And Aunt Jessie you have fallen under control harder than most. Can you really say the Christians are correct? Think of the terrible things that have happened to people in the name of GOD.

90% of all war in the world is caused by relegion. We would be much better off as a human race if the bible had never been written.

dannyjw says...
11:37am Thu 22 Jan 09

Aunt Jessie wrote:
Dear Locked and Loaded,

I did enough bean flicking to last me a lifetime when I laboured for a year as a white slave in a coffee plantation in Columbia back in the early 60s, thank you.
AHAHAHAHAHA thats sooo funny. Do you enjoy flicking your bean? It sure does sound like u need to let out some "frustration"

Locked and Loaded says...
1:21pm Thu 22 Jan 09

Danny I bet Aunty is on her knees right now.

Praying that is !! :)

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