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Activists warn of immigrants inflow
8:41am Tuesday 19th February 2013 in Greenwich news © Press Association
A ROMANIAN or Bulgarian family-of-four would be eight or nine times better off if they were to move to Britain when access restrictions are lifted at the end of the year, immigration campaigners claim.
A Bulgarian family - made up of one individual on minimum wage with a dependent spouse and two children - has a weekly income of £62 at home, compared to the £543 they could pocket in the UK, while Romanian families earn around £70 a week.
Elsewhere, single workers from the Eastern European countries would be four or five times better off, the study by Migration Watch UK found.
And a comparison with the conditions Polish workers enjoy in Britain showed that the economic incentives for Romanian and Bulgarian workers were twice as great.
Migration Watch UK chairman Sir Andrew Green said: "The wage differences turn out be simply stunning.
"The previous government made a huge mistake by agreeing to accession treaties that granted full access to our labour market to workers from countries that have only fifth of our GDP per head.
"Given that the economic incentives for Romanian and Bulgarian workers are twice those now enjoyed by Polish workers, it would be absurd to suggest that there will not be a significant inflow."
Temporary curbs were imposed on Romanians and Bulgarians in 2005 to protect the British labour market, but they expire in December and under EU laws cannot be extended.
The Government has refused to provide an estimate on the number of Romanians or Bulgarians it expects to arrive in Britain, but Migration Watch previously said it could be up to 50,000 a year for the first five years.
Leading politicians from Bulgaria and Romania have dismissed fears that the change in access restrictions will trigger a wave of immigration to the UK.
Comments(84)
PaulErith
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10:28am Tue 19 Feb 13
cookster wrote:I'm certainly not BNP and am not racist, but do you honestly think it's a good thing for more and more immigrants coming to the UK? Can we realistically cope with it? - No, we can't. Other countries (Australia is a fine example) have much tighter controls. Nobody calls Australia a racist country, yet they wouldn't have this situation.
Give a racist organisation a plausible name and fire press releases out to anyone gullible to produce a story out of it. Textbook. Watch the BNP comments fly in.
concerned.erith
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10:34am Tue 19 Feb 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:44am Tue 19 Feb 13
ksc
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11:06am Tue 19 Feb 13
I'm not sure if a whole country can become bankrupt, but I think I'm just about to find out.
goldenbroomboy
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1:25pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Yes there are some very poor peasants in Romania, but they will not be coming here because they cannot afford the air fare. Those who work in admin jobs will not be coming here because the wages here may be higher than those in Romania but the cost of living is very much higher too. As for Gypsies, they have never yet worried about breaking the law & they are unlikely to start worrying about such matters now.
Buna Ziua.
handymanchris
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4:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13
Living in romania is a hell of alot cheaper!
old nick
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4:29pm Tue 19 Feb 13
handymanchris
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4:41pm Tue 19 Feb 13
daveinrage
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9:15am Wed 20 Feb 13
it was reported in the daily mail last week ( search engine it )) that this is what is happening already after the mail interviewed people from these countries..... no big deal though because david cameron is on a tour of india and other countries saying students can come here and study.... unlimited numbers, not a problem, ( i think he is trying to sell some airware out there ) ......no idea why indian students cant study in their own countries though?!
tony blair promised a lot and failed, gordon brown called a woman a racist/bigot when she challenged him over immigration.... then brown done a live debate and had the cheek to say "immigration was out of control and he was going to stop it!"
dave cameron said he was going to reduce immigration from hundreds of thousands to > tens of thousands while he is out in the east inviting every man and his dog.....
liars, cheats, say anything to the electorate before the election, the do the complete opposite....
eric pickles doesn't want a "number" put on the number of legal migrants that might come here in 2014 from bulgaria or romania because they don't want to alarm the public... and simply do not have any idea of the numbers involved ( remember the last time they said only 13,000 migrants from eastern europe would come here? turned out to be over 1 million at least.... making polish the second most spoken language after english )
but hey ho, the government have sent out thousands of leaflets to romania.... "it rains a lot in england > it's cold" >>>> oh wow! of course when the mail showed these roma`s these leaflets, they all laughed out very, very, loud..... minus 30 in winter..... only 25% of properties have sealed sewers or running water.... living on £25 a week is the norm, so a £70 one way ticket to victoria station is very, very, tempting.......
you cant blame these guys they will come in large numbers...... and the thing is if you don't like it you can just lump it! or move to their countries >>>> just keep voting in the people that will make your life a lot more difficult..... say anything and you'll be labelled a racist..... still voting for the BNP and winding up the liberal facists makes it very, very, amusing
LOL
goldenbroomboy
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9:34am Wed 20 Feb 13
As far as I know BNP High Command takes the view that Europeans are at least White, & Christian, so they are not the immediate enemy. It's smoked ukippers who do most of the anti european ranting.
As for only 25% of Romanian & Bulgarian homes having sealed sewers & running water, that is pure bollards.
I have lived & worked in Romania, it's an ok place if you are in work, and the people are far preferable to Londoners.
sayd elmett
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9:35am Wed 20 Feb 13
cupidstunt1976
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9:49am Wed 20 Feb 13
goldenbroomboy wrote:"I have lived & worked in Romania, it's an ok place if you are in work, and the people are far preferable to Londoners"
Oh Dear. As far as I know BNP High Command takes the view that Europeans are at least White, & Christian, so they are not the immediate enemy. It's smoked ukippers who do most of the anti european ranting. As for only 25% of Romanian & Bulgarian homes having sealed sewers & running water, that is pure bollards. I have lived & worked in Romania, it's an ok place if you are in work, and the people are far preferable to Londoners.
Cheap throwaway statement with no substance
This country is seriously overcrowded letting in more and more people makes no sense at all
I actually feel betrayed by what Cameron promised before he was elected.,
I will never vote for labour lib dems or tory again,.
ron,,1952
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10:01am Wed 20 Feb 13
ron seeing whats goin to happen x
goldenbroomboy
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10:15am Wed 20 Feb 13
cupidstunt1976 wrote:Then don't.
goldenbroomboy wrote: Oh Dear. As far as I know BNP High Command takes the view that Europeans are at least White, & Christian, so they are not the immediate enemy. It's smoked ukippers who do most of the anti european ranting. As for only 25% of Romanian & Bulgarian homes having sealed sewers & running water, that is pure bollards. I have lived & worked in Romania, it's an ok place if you are in work, and the people are far preferable to Londoners."I have lived & worked in Romania, it's an ok place if you are in work, and the people are far preferable to Londoners" Cheap throwaway statement with no substance This country is seriously overcrowded letting in more and more people makes no sense at all I actually feel betrayed by what Cameron promised before he was elected., I will never vote for labour lib dems or tory again,.
goldenbroomboy
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10:21am Wed 20 Feb 13
ron,,1952 wrote:Ron, antibiotics in Romania are cheap & easy to obtain compared to the UK, go to hospital & you may have to wait twenty minuites before you are seen & diagnosed. Dentists fees are less than a quarter of UK fees, & the dentists & their assistants are polite and helpful.
they all need medical care an dentists so the bill will go through the roof ron seeing whats goin to happen x
I am not saying that there are no problems in that country, of course there are, but nobody will be coming here for our NHS.
rescaaffering oldey
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10:04am Thu 21 Feb 13
nearly right all the time
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4:32pm Thu 21 Feb 13
From the last census it was reported that we have a aging population, we need working people to generate tax income,
What we dont want are the lazy, the crooked, we have got enough "home grown" ones our selves!
white rabbit9
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5:40pm Thu 21 Feb 13
C.Rodders.Jefferson
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7:44pm Thu 21 Feb 13
That white pointed hat you wear really suits you.
Brian Sewer3
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9:51am Mon 25 Feb 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:26am Mon 25 Feb 13
Brian Sewer3 wrote:Who let the village idiot out of Burgess Hill this morning......come on own up.
Says activist and members are talking about it but nothing about politcians caring about all this so they dont care about it m8s but every1 is talking about i was in the boozer at the week end an the whole pub was mouthin it about the same thing yap yap yap 2 right bruv if they are more interested in talking about libs who touched up who an all that but nothing about the main topic then we will have 2 do so any1 who dont like it can jus do1 yar har hah har
Where's Karl still loading that skip ? I know she has her knickers in a knot as dah Palace lost.
the wall
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10:57am Mon 25 Feb 13
Brian Sewer3 wrote:Are you English? If so, then an chance you can wrte in English. Instead of some inbred chav like text speak.
Says activist and members are talking about it but nothing about politcians caring about all this so they dont care about it m8s but every1 is talking about i was in the boozer at the week end an the whole pub was mouthin it about the same thing yap yap yap 2 right bruv if they are more interested in talking about libs who touched up who an all that but nothing about the main topic then we will have 2 do so any1 who dont like it can jus do1 yar har hah har
Gypo.Joe
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12:23pm Mon 25 Feb 13
imnokuffar
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5:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
tHaNk yOu
Inspirationalady28
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7:25pm Mon 25 Feb 13
the wall wrote:U still having probs understanding I c??
Brian Sewer3 wrote:Are you English? If so, then an chance you can wrte in English. Instead of some inbred chav like text speak.
Says activist and members are talking about it but nothing about politcians caring about all this so they dont care about it m8s but every1 is talking about i was in the boozer at the week end an the whole pub was mouthin it about the same thing yap yap yap 2 right bruv if they are more interested in talking about libs who touched up who an all that but nothing about the main topic then we will have 2 do so any1 who dont like it can jus do1 yar har hah har
the blood eagle..ROFL
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8:21pm Mon 25 Feb 13
Loadsa money.
Gypo.Joe
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9:32pm Mon 25 Feb 13
"The figures reveal that Albert Stanmore left £200,000 to the party, received in two separate donations in 2012, while further bequests of £35,000 from Brian Mincherton and £28,736.97 from Edward Hart were also received"
Clive the coffin chaser. Perhaps the BNP will now pay a few honest business people they owe money too.
CaptainJustice
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10:17am Tue 26 Feb 13
If people feel they want to bequest the BNP or any other political party/Org something that is there perogative and no one elses business,thats just the way things are and if Gypo Joe wants to leave something to the BNP that is his business and no one elses or have I misread the comment
Gypo.Joe
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10:39am Tue 26 Feb 13
imnokuffar
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8:52pm Tue 26 Feb 13
"It shows that we engage in a variety of good old-fashioned (and some new) fundraising techniques."
'Rodneys' always good for a laugh.
ron.1952
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10:10pm Tue 26 Feb 13
I'm logging it all though, have no fear Ronnys here.
Ron xx
Locked and Loaded
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2:04am Wed 27 Feb 13
Karl and Tony can chupa mis huevos gordos, puto maricons.
papaleigh
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9:55am Thu 28 Feb 13
previously claimed they would not get any eu funding for 2013? wrong!
previously claimed that they are hated and no one would send them any money; then totally contradicts that statement by showing people have gave them hundreds of thousands of pounds!
oxymoron!
lol
Barra boy
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10:09am Thu 28 Feb 13
nice divertin tactics boi but you know you are def a bnp member
:/
Gypo.Joe
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10:32am Thu 28 Feb 13
Come on do ya little dance kuntocks.
football boot
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10:45am Fri 1 Mar 13
our children are already having to compete with an already over insaturated job market with hundreds chasing jobs
most of these people from romania or bulgaria will offer nothing to this country and the sole reason for coming here will be to claim benefits and do black market jobs on the side
our prison population has already shot through the roof with criminals from foreign countries making their way into the prison population costing the british tax payers ( yes me and you! ) even more money!
over 2 million people are waiting for council properties so to increase the population of this country with even more unskilled people is total folly
please reject the liblabcon parties who are not listening to public concern over this serious issue
cheers
Gypo.Joe
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10:50am Fri 1 Mar 13
tHaNk u
rarecockneyguvnor
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11:43am Fri 1 Mar 13
BNP = forever also rans.
miss shadesnshorts
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9:48am Sat 2 Mar 13
rarecockneyguvnor wrote:immigration has been put to the top of the agenda now hun with that election result,
The BNP couldn't even put a candidate up in Eastleigh. BNP = forever also rans.
seeing as you are so obsessed with trying to smear the parties that want to halt it, and you promote more immigration into this country looks like your message has fallen on deaf ears again
lol :)
rarecockneyguvnor
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12:30pm Sat 2 Mar 13
The BNP will never ever see any real power all the time you have a hole in your fat arses. FACT !!
Gypo.Joe
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4:36pm Sat 2 Mar 13
"Ray Hall from the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party, Howling Laud Hope of the Official Monster Raving Loony Party and David Bishop of the Elvis Loves Pets Party."
This is where the BNP belongs, down among the crackpots. Looney Tunes.
Gypo.Joe
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11:33am Mon 4 Mar 13
Come on ladies your tune is playing...do ya dance for us.
Tusstastic
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10:08am Thu 7 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe wrote:Perhaps they are posting a bit north of Waford?... are you missing your daily diet of "confrontation" on the internet?... lol
Monday morning no Karl or slap head Brewer...WTF. Come on ladies your tune is playing...do ya dance for us.
Gypo.Joe
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10:40am Thu 7 Mar 13
ROFL.
Gypo.Joe
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11:14am Fri 8 Mar 13
ROFLMAO
The Real Gypo
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11:33am Sat 9 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe wrote:while yaer on here all day boi one of the chaps is going after the old ladies brown going in dry i heard hehe
Enfield or the Northern Echo today ? ROFLMAO
Gypo.Joe
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12:23pm Sat 9 Mar 13
Locked an Loaded
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9:58am Fri 15 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:03am Fri 15 Mar 13
Facebook....ROFL, do you really go on there ? It says so much about your sad state of mind. Thinking about it though anyone who votes BNP what did I really expect.
Gypo.Joe
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6:19pm Fri 15 Mar 13
"Stephen Reid Dorman, the BNP candidate managed a laughable 57 votes and finished once again in last place, that equates to just 2.68% of the vote."
Oh my phucking sides, I have guts ache laughing so much. Keep sending the BNP ya money Karl and Tony.
rescaaffering oldey
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10:07am Sat 16 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe wrote:...still managing to post within five minutes of someone else leaving a comment 'joe' ? ...i mean come on!! what is the chances of an ordinary punter seeing something on da shopper and managing to reply within five minutes flat!! rofl!! erastus piggott 'the epic fail' fake blogger used to do it, and 'wall' as well... oh my sides!! give it oop missey you are emarrassing yaself now!! ...some of the good guys and gals have left comments that had you seething... you just had to reply!! just couldn't wait such was the anger!! rofl!!
Nice to see ya back, I was getting worried abaht yas. I was going to look at the CCTV. Facebook....ROFL, do you really go on there ? It says so much about your sad state of mind. Thinking about it though anyone who votes BNP what did I really expect.
rescaaffering oldey
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10:19am Sat 16 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe wrote:...pray tell 'joe' ...you've fessed-up on a few other forums to being a member of that 'party' ...see what i did there - i didn't even mention them!! ...so why the obsession with every little snippet on the net eh ? eh ?? ron tells me you are on the membership list ?... can't wait until the next one gets published!! rofl!! ...deep down 'joe' you are the epic fail!!... the fake hasbeen who got rumbled!!... tore a new one!!... and left totally humiliated!! everyone saw through the fake piggott blog - designed to entrap... with a few 'names' to entice decent, honest folk in... the 'croyboys' or the 'orpboys' ...run along now will ya... eric fail!! rof...rof...rofl!!
Camden Borough Council ward of Gospel Oak, where a by election was called following the resignation of Labour councillor Sean Birch yesterday 14-3-13. "Stephen Reid Dorman, the BNP candidate managed a laughable 57 votes and finished once again in last place, that equates to just 2.68% of the vote." Oh my phucking sides, I have guts ache laughing so much. Keep sending the BNP ya money Karl and Tony.
rescaaffering oldey
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10:21am Sat 16 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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11:29am Sat 16 Mar 13
Has smeggy Doncaster been checking the falling 'member' list for me .....keep looking Ron boi. Would you like a clue Ron ? Have a wash first, then if you ask nice I'll throw you a clue.
"keep ya friends close but ya enemies even closer."
Just so ya dont get your knickers in too much of a knot, I aint the Wall,or Erastus, or even Tom.
Joe's me name.
Locked and Loaded
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1:22am Sun 17 Mar 13
13 quid me Ron, well all but a few coppers.
Gypo.Joe
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9:45am Mon 18 Mar 13
Locked, Rons just another nobody, a skinny runt who needs a good haircut, a wash, and clean them old custard teeth.
Inspirationalady28
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9:52am Mon 18 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:10am Mon 18 Mar 13
Excuse us Karl while we have a chit chat here, I do hate to leave Karl out, she gets her knickers in a knot over the small things.
Inspirationalady28
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10:15am Mon 18 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:22am Mon 18 Mar 13
I'm sure you will be Erastus now, or the Wall.
By the way I'm Spartacus today.
Inspirationalady28
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10:27am Mon 18 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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11:21am Mon 18 Mar 13
;)
Gypo.Joe
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4:13pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Got the girlies have you ?? Boo hoo Simon, old Joe is ripping us a new one AGAIN !! Make him stop it Simon. Booo hooo hooooo.
I'll send you some tissues Karl,Tony, Donna, some for ya tears and some for ya ripping wound.
Oh my sides LOL
Donna_T
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4:30pm Mon 18 Mar 13
DonnaTxx
Gypo.Joe
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10:27pm Mon 18 Mar 13
I love it when the BNP arse wipes give it the large but can't take it back, typical racist moron bullies.
worthy worthing
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10:17am Tue 19 Mar 13
i dont think its illegal to do that; in fact im pretty sure its ok lol..
you can take a picture of someone in public and pin it up on the wall..
lets see you try get them removed lol
worthy worthing
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10:20am Tue 19 Mar 13
lol
Gypo.Joe
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10:33am Tue 19 Mar 13
You really are a pair of tools (sic)
By the way have you phoned or E mailed Simon today boo hooing,.. "Gypos taking the p1ss Simon, shut him down like old Erastus cause we cant shut him up, and he knows who we are" Booooooo hoooooooooo
Inspirationalady28
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10:57am Tue 19 Mar 13
"The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river."
So let us all quit the bickering, and try to figure out a solution, and then take action.... :)
Gypo.Joe
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11:01am Tue 19 Mar 13
Inspirationalady28
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11:44am Tue 19 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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2:18pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Inspirationalady28
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3:41pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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4:06pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Gay marriage for me his a simple matter of basic rights. I don't care who you marry or anyone else marries, why should we be bothered that two men or two girls want to marry. Its a non issue, other than they should have the same rights as straight people. The bottom line for me is if you don't like gay marriage don't marry a gay. End of story.
Gypo.Joe
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5:25pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Between me, Erastus, Tom, The Wall etc etc Karl and Tony have to use tampons now where they have had so many new ones ripped them.
Inspirationalady28
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5:38pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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5:56pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Now the church .......best I don't go there.
PS, phuck the Pope.
Inspirationalady28
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6:03pm Tue 19 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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9:42am Wed 20 Mar 13
rescaaffering oldey
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10:01am Wed 20 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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10:19am Wed 20 Mar 13
You and slap head Brewer dance to 'our' tune sonny, you just cant resist.
rarecockneyguvnor
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10:57am Wed 20 Mar 13
Gypo.Joe
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7:37pm Wed 20 Mar 13
rarecockneyguvnor wrote:Shut it guvnor, sooner or later Karl will guess.
Joe shall we tell Karl about the Brickies, go on I dare you, just a little clue to wet Billy Sollocks whistle.
I hear Leonie has to f@rt to give Karl a clue.
cookster says...
10:11am Tue 19 Feb 13
Textbook. Watch the BNP comments fly in.