Lewisham Hospital: Mums and buggies blockade Department of Health (From News Shopper)

you voted Labour!

wasted all the money!

you had the olympics! (more money wasted)

you had the jubilee! (even more money wasted)

dont moan " `cos we are skint"

All those events especially the jubilee were fantastic for England,embrace them don't blame them for a hospital closure.

I hope these mums succeed, I really do. However I believe Mr. Hunt will toe the party line and agree to close maternity and A & E services in Lewisham. Mr. Hunt is in favour of selling off our NHS to his chums in big business.

He co-wrote a book in 2005 called 'Direct Democracy'. Quote 'Our ambition should be to break down the barriers between private and public provision, in effect denationlising the provision of health care in Britain'.

Seeing as he has accepted the poison chalice given to him by Cameron in the quise of Health Minister, he is not his own man but must do as he is told.

Well done you people, I will be proudly on the March on Saturday and will hunt out the people Before Profit banner to march behind.
We should all remember that much of this crises was caused by Labour in Goverment, it is the PFI contracts that have lead to our Area Health Trust going Bust. it is therefore a bit rich Labour seeking to win popular support to save a Hospital that there policy has caused the mess, i also note Labour have refused the call from People Before Profit to state publicly that if they win in 2015 or were in Goverment Today, they would not close the Hospital. I hope i am one of Thousands of Lewisham Residents that can see this and will vote for People Before Profit at the next Local elections, they Should also Win the Deptford Westminster seat, once our local MP takes her seat in the House of Lords.So much for years fighting Equality, once she became a Dame Deptford was a distant Memory the True Face of Labour, Say anything, Do anything, just get elected..

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PBP have NO chance of winning the next election in the Deptford area..you know it, I know it!

how much did we spend on a war in iraq and afgahnistan?

Oh Mr Blair how do you sleep at night

It is important people know about this. So why is the BEXLEY edition of the news shopper not mentioning this story. As with previous stories about Lewisham Hospital ,not mentioned in the Bexley edition.If they close Lewisham A & E ,(they have already closed sidcup) Woolwich will be overrun which will affect bexley

THe david cameron say we can have a vote on staying in the europe union but not until 2017 why cant we ha ve it now and can we have referendem on stopping all this immigration our hospital need to stay open if we h ave waves of immigra nts pouring in to my country then we need more hospital not less.Thank you.

Indigenous Pensioner wrote:
THe david cameron say we can have a vote on staying in the europe union but not until 2017 why cant we ha ve it now and can we have referendem on stopping all this immigration our hospital need to stay open if we h ave waves of immigra nts pouring in to my country then we need more hospital not less.Thank you.

Totally agree!
Said in the Daily Mail today that many people coming to the UK & been allowed to settle here have no money or means of supporting themselves;
no homes; basically they are dependant of finicial assistance from the tax payers!
Dont get me wrong I don,t believe every thing read in the Daily Mail
but for chris sake where is the sense in shutting A&Es down mates?
& yep can we have a referendum on continued mass immigration in to Britain? we all know what the result of that woukld be so i suppose for that rreason they wont let us!
LOL

Apologies for typos got a touch of arthritic fingers sticking in this cafe nero today!
LOL

 I read that in the coming 15 years we will have to build, just for new immigrants and their families, the equivalent of eight of the largest cities outside London... together with all their associated social infrastructure, of schools, roads, hospitals, railways, and all the rest.!! 

Have you thought about emigrating ?

chupa mi huevos.

Me Spanish is gettin better.

It is amazing how a story about the NHS could lead to blogs about immigration.
If we sent all our immigrants back home tomorrow there would be nobody serving 'Good to Go' in Cafe Nero. Nobody looking after our elderly and disabled, and nobody picking our fruit and vegetables. They do all the jobs that the indigenous people will not do. Saying all this I will concede that our open door policy needs looking at and we should only let in people with a job to go to before they arrive.

Back to the original topic ...

This is what happens when government tries to run healthcare - it should stick to health insurance; that what gets you universal free-at-point-of-del
ivery care.

Peony wrote:
It is amazing how a story about the NHS could lead to blogs about immigration. If we sent all our immigrants back home tomorrow there would be nobody serving 'Good to Go' in Cafe Nero. Nobody looking after our elderly and disabled, and nobody picking our fruit and vegetables. They do all the jobs that the indigenous people will not do. Saying all this I will concede that our open door policy needs looking at and we should only let in people with a job to go to before they arrive.

I'm afraid that you have to accept that any story about closure or cutback of public services will lead to a mention of immigration and foreign policy. If we hadn't allowed the level of immigration that we have, then our services wouldn't be under pressure. I don't buy into the fact that nobody would do those jobs. I know quite a few people ou of work who are genuinely cannot find permanent reguler jobs even though they are perfectly willing to work in coffee shops or other low paid jobs.
Equally, if we stopped all foreign aid tomorrow, we would have billions more pounds that could be spent on hospitals and other vital services.

I hear what you say Paul and I am sure you are right when you say that many British workers would do some of that work now that their own jobs have gone from the market place. Nevertheless you cannot make immigrants that have been willing to do the jobs no one wanted in the good times scapegoats for the mess we find ourselves in now. Any blame lies with our subsequent Governments and their policies.

As for overseas aid, I personally do not begrudge some of our wealth going to countries that do not have access to clean water. That is a basic need for every human being. However I am concerned about the problem of corruption when such vast amounts of money are involved. A lot of the money available to foreign countries is first creamed off by UK based companies that are being contracted out by the Government as 'consultants'. They are doing very nicely thankyou. Then the money thats left gets creamed off some more by the despots and military juntas that operate in some of these poor countries. We must not run away with the idea that most of the corruption is on the part of the poor countries because a lot of it starts here first. Nevertheless we are committed, like other western countries, to helping poorer countries and I believe with more transparency we could get it right.

Peony, you are talking some sense here.. I hope our local MPs are reading this and learning something from what you've said.... :)

PaulErith wrote:

Peony wrote: It is amazing how a story about the NHS could lead to blogs about immigration. If we sent all our immigrants back home tomorrow there would be nobody serving 'Good to Go' in Cafe Nero. Nobody looking after our elderly and disabled, and nobody picking our fruit and vegetables. They do all the jobs that the indigenous people will not do. Saying all this I will concede that our open door policy needs looking at and we should only let in people with a job to go to before they arrive.

I'm afraid that you have to accept that any story about closure or cutback of public services will lead to a mention of immigration and foreign policy. If we hadn't allowed the level of immigration that we have, then our services wouldn't be under pressure. I don't buy into the fact that nobody would do those jobs. I know quite a few people ou of work who are genuinely cannot find permanent reguler jobs even though they are perfectly willing to work in coffee shops or other low paid jobs. Equally, if we stopped all foreign aid tomorrow, we would have billions more pounds that could be spent on hospitals and other vital services.

nick clegg says he has not got a problem sending his son to a private school instead of a local secondary modern in london,
these people dont care about nhs service hospitals or state schools they have more faces than big ben !
just vote for who you like so long as its not ukip and the other 3 !

miss rumble tumble wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

Peony wrote: It is amazing how a story about the NHS could lead to blogs about immigration. If we sent all our immigrants back home tomorrow there would be nobody serving 'Good to Go' in Cafe Nero. Nobody looking after our elderly and disabled, and nobody picking our fruit and vegetables. They do all the jobs that the indigenous people will not do. Saying all this I will concede that our open door policy needs looking at and we should only let in people with a job to go to before they arrive.

I'm afraid that you have to accept that any story about closure or cutback of public services will lead to a mention of immigration and foreign policy. If we hadn't allowed the level of immigration that we have, then our services wouldn't be under pressure. I don't buy into the fact that nobody would do those jobs. I know quite a few people ou of work who are genuinely cannot find permanent reguler jobs even though they are perfectly willing to work in coffee shops or other low paid jobs. Equally, if we stopped all foreign aid tomorrow, we would have billions more pounds that could be spent on hospitals and other vital services.

nick clegg says he has not got a problem sending his son to a private school instead of a local secondary modern in london, these people dont care about nhs service hospitals or state schools they have more faces than big ben ! just vote for who you like so long as its not ukip and the other 3 !

...indeed 'miss cunney-hunney' cleggy has said, 'i won't stand in me missus way - if she wants private for the boi, then so be it' ...sorry cleggy... it stinks!! ...yer boi will be starting his 'big' school in september - and you want either the best state school in london like phoney tony did... or... we'll go private... but it's dahn to the missus!! oh my sides!! and as for voting - just vote for those that they keep telling you not too!! winds 'em right up!! rofl!!

miss rumble tumble wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

Peony wrote: It is amazing how a story about the NHS could lead to blogs about immigration. If we sent all our immigrants back home tomorrow there would be nobody serving 'Good to Go' in Cafe Nero. Nobody looking after our elderly and disabled, and nobody picking our fruit and vegetables. They do all the jobs that the indigenous people will not do. Saying all this I will concede that our open door policy needs looking at and we should only let in people with a job to go to before they arrive.

I'm afraid that you have to accept that any story about closure or cutback of public services will lead to a mention of immigration and foreign policy. If we hadn't allowed the level of immigration that we have, then our services wouldn't be under pressure. I don't buy into the fact that nobody would do those jobs. I know quite a few people ou of work who are genuinely cannot find permanent reguler jobs even though they are perfectly willing to work in coffee shops or other low paid jobs. Equally, if we stopped all foreign aid tomorrow, we would have billions more pounds that could be spent on hospitals and other vital services.

nick clegg says he has not got a problem sending his son to a private school instead of a local secondary modern in london, these people dont care about nhs service hospitals or state schools they have more faces than big ben ! just vote for who you like so long as its not ukip and the other 3 !

It's UKIP all the way for me. I'm not a racist but am now totally against immigration. I think it's gone too far. We don't have the infrastructure, money, jobs, etc to support all of the people that are here now, so borders need to shut immediately.

Peony wrote:
I hear what you say Paul and I am sure you are right when you say that many British workers would do some of that work now that their own jobs have gone from the market place. Nevertheless you cannot make immigrants that have been willing to do the jobs no one wanted in the good times scapegoats for the mess we find ourselves in now. Any blame lies with our subsequent Governments and their policies. As for overseas aid, I personally do not begrudge some of our wealth going to countries that do not have access to clean water. That is a basic need for every human being. However I am concerned about the problem of corruption when such vast amounts of money are involved. A lot of the money available to foreign countries is first creamed off by UK based companies that are being contracted out by the Government as 'consultants'. They are doing very nicely thankyou. Then the money thats left gets creamed off some more by the despots and military juntas that operate in some of these poor countries. We must not run away with the idea that most of the corruption is on the part of the poor countries because a lot of it starts here first. Nevertheless we are committed, like other western countries, to helping poorer countries and I believe with more transparency we could get it right.

I know what you're saying about third World countries, and I do have compassion for them. In an ideal World, we are able to allocate billions of pounds to these country. However, right now, we can't afford it. It's no different to one's personal choices about giving to charity. I'm sure that you give money to charity on occasions or maybe you're even someone who regularly donates each month. How do you decide how much to give? The answer is you work out what you can afford. You wouldn't give to charity if it meant you couldn't eat or pay your rent. It's exactly the same when it comes to this country. We haven't got the money to pay for our vital services such as NHS, etc and there's cutbacks all around. Therefore, we can't afford to give money to charity at this time.