Dartford mother Deborah Cogger claims Jimmy Savile molested her at Duncroft Approved School for Girls

News Shopper: Jimmy Savile Jimmy Savile

"TAKE no notice it's Jimmy's way, he loves you girls".

That was the reaction of staff when 14-year-old Deborah Cogger complained that Jimmy Savile had molested her in a children's home for troubled youngsters.

The 52-year-old has broken her 38-year silence following an ITV Exposure documentary on the Sir Jimmy Savile sexual abuse allegations.

Ms Cogger stayed at Duncroft Approved School for Girls in Surrey from 1973 to 1976 and met Savile during his regular visits as patron of the school.

She told News Shopper: "It was awful, it wasn't home. It was dark and bleak and it was hard work. We felt abandoned.

"He used to come periodically. There was always chit-chat between the girls that he would touch you if he had a chance."

Ms Cogger, who runs Deb's Diner in Northfleet, added: "There were people who were star struck and didn't have families and he was a celebrity and a famous man.

"He was charismatic and they got drawn into it.

"I hadn't been there very long when I met him the first time."

The mother-of-two says Savile had lunch with the girls before getting out a record player.

She said: "He was sitting a few feet away from me talking to someone else - someone was on his lap.

"He moved seats and sat behind where I was standing.

"As I turned round he put his arm round my waist and pulled me in a tango style and put his tongue straight down my throat."

Ms Cogger, from Dartford, claims when she told staff they said: "Take no notice it's Jimmy's way, he loves you girls".

She said: "The third time he visited he came in the dining room and was in the company of a couple of other girls.

"He came up to me and waved his arms in the way that he did and aimed them at my chest and said 'My you've grown'.

"He touched my chest and I backed off quickly.

"After that when he came I never ever sat with him. I sat in my dormitory with other girls."

Ms Cogger says complaining about Savile would lead to privileges being taken away such as cigarettes and the TV.

She said: "The worst one was being put in a padded cell until you kept quiet."

Ms Cogger claims the abuse gave her "an absolute hatred for anyone in authority" including social services and the police.

She told News Shopper: "I can't deal with these people. I get myself in a state.

"They can't be trusted because we were all ignored and left there in that rotten place.

"I told my friends at the time and my social worker but they didn't believe me. It's terrible."

She added: "It's only now people are starting to listen. It's not like we haven't spoke about it before.

"I tried to contact the papers years ago but they didn't want to know.

"It beggars belief that they put you in a place of safety and this can happen.

"The homes were easy for him, it was like candy in a sweet shop."

Ms Cogger says she wants the local authority to apologise for what happened.

She said: "The main thing to come out of this is closure because people can actually admit this happened and apologise.

"I'm doing this to be heard and to give other victims the courage to come forward."

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10:01am Wed 10 Oct 12

Locked & Loaded says...

Can of worms been opened on this one.... the BBC have shown what they are really like on it!
Can of worms been opened on this one.... the BBC have shown what they are really like on it! Locked & Loaded

11:55am Wed 10 Oct 12

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! says...

I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.
I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive. Guess who ;) AGAIN !

2:34pm Wed 10 Oct 12

mouthalmighty says...

Good on you Deborah. I have tried for years to talk about my experiences and nobody wants to know. Not family, not mental health services, no one. I am older than you Deborah, and incidents such as ours was commonplace and laughed off and brushed under the carpet. It leaves scars. For years. I have only just stopped blaming myself. The pain. The doubt. The feeling if guilt. I was a baby(teen) , we wern't sexually educated in those days. I didn't really understand the implications of all the attention. Good luck Deborah, if you have the strength go all the way.
Good on you Deborah. I have tried for years to talk about my experiences and nobody wants to know. Not family, not mental health services, no one. I am older than you Deborah, and incidents such as ours was commonplace and laughed off and brushed under the carpet. It leaves scars. For years. I have only just stopped blaming myself. The pain. The doubt. The feeling if guilt. I was a baby(teen) , we wern't sexually educated in those days. I didn't really understand the implications of all the attention. Good luck Deborah, if you have the strength go all the way. mouthalmighty

10:14am Thu 11 Oct 12

Outandabout says...

The world has changed for the better. I suspect that years ago any girl anywhere making allegations against people who had 'good standing' in the community were never believed. It is why the abusers took us such work. I recall a man raped his daughter when his wife was pregnant. the judge was lenient stating that 'one can understand the man's needs not being met because his wife wa spregnant'. there was an outcry but not nearly as much as there should have been or would be now. You can only hold people who speak out in awe for the courage to step up and speak out. Too many children feel they are to blame.They should always, always remember this, it is only the adult at fault, only the adult and never anyone else.
The world has changed for the better. I suspect that years ago any girl anywhere making allegations against people who had 'good standing' in the community were never believed. It is why the abusers took us such work. I recall a man raped his daughter when his wife was pregnant. the judge was lenient stating that 'one can understand the man's needs not being met because his wife wa spregnant'. there was an outcry but not nearly as much as there should have been or would be now. You can only hold people who speak out in awe for the courage to step up and speak out. Too many children feel they are to blame.They should always, always remember this, it is only the adult at fault, only the adult and never anyone else. Outandabout

11:30am Thu 11 Oct 12

Lukeyboy says...

why has everyone waited till he is dead to voice all of this? he is a wrong un, hes always been a wrong un. a man who wears tracksuits and has long white hair is clearly a wrong un. dig the mug up and stick him in an unmarked grave somewhere
why has everyone waited till he is dead to voice all of this? he is a wrong un, hes always been a wrong un. a man who wears tracksuits and has long white hair is clearly a wrong un. dig the mug up and stick him in an unmarked grave somewhere Lukeyboy

9:54am Sat 13 Oct 12

josh browser says...

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.
no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Guess who ;) AGAIN ![/bold] wrote: I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.[/p][/quote]no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!! josh browser

11:12am Sat 13 Oct 12

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! says...

josh browser wrote:
Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.
no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!!
So now you are a mind reader, you know what I think, interesting.

I never said I knew what Savile was up too, I said I found him a creep.
I also find you a sad little creep Daley and your 'mate' Brewer. No make that sad racist creeps.

Now run along moron.
[quote][p][bold]josh browser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guess who ;) AGAIN ![/bold] wrote: I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.[/p][/quote]no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!![/p][/quote]So now you are a mind reader, you know what I think, interesting. I never said I knew what Savile was up too, I said I found him a creep. I also find you a sad little creep Daley and your 'mate' Brewer. No make that sad racist creeps. Now run along moron. Guess who ;) AGAIN !

9:46am Mon 15 Oct 12

harold hill66 says...

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
josh browser wrote:
Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote: I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.
no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!!
So now you are a mind reader, you know what I think, interesting. I never said I knew what Savile was up too, I said I found him a creep. I also find you a sad little creep Daley and your 'mate' Brewer. No make that sad racist creeps. Now run along moron.
I read it the same way as Josh pal, you said " I always thought Savile was a creep " and " Something not right about him ""

Reading that, you are insinuating you actually knew he was a pedo, when if you did why didnt you report him to the police then?

You didnt know pal but are coming out of the woodwork to boost your ego on here like you had some inside knowledge on the issue,
You probably idolised the geeza at the time and thought he was great and now that the bubble has burst on Savile you come out with some tosh about you knew something!

And OMG who uses hippy type words such as "creep" these days
lol
[quote][p][bold]Guess who ;) AGAIN ![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]josh browser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Guess who ;) AGAIN ![/bold] wrote: I always thought Savile was a creep. Something just not right about him, turns out he has always been Lester the Molester. Its just a shame all this never came out while he was still alive.[/p][/quote]no you didnt!!!! you are just jumping on the bad publicity band wagon pretending you knew all along when you had no idea this was happening so just button it instead of making stupid comments that you knew all along!!!![/p][/quote]So now you are a mind reader, you know what I think, interesting. I never said I knew what Savile was up too, I said I found him a creep. I also find you a sad little creep Daley and your 'mate' Brewer. No make that sad racist creeps. Now run along moron.[/p][/quote]I read it the same way as Josh pal, you said " I always thought Savile was a creep " and " Something not right about him "" Reading that, you are insinuating you actually knew he was a pedo, when if you did why didnt you report him to the police then? You didnt know pal but are coming out of the woodwork to boost your ego on here like you had some inside knowledge on the issue, You probably idolised the geeza at the time and thought he was great and now that the bubble has burst on Savile you come out with some tosh about you knew something! And OMG who uses hippy type words such as "creep" these days lol harold hill66

10:09am Mon 15 Oct 12

commenting scoffer says...

...'guess who' used to dust dahn the 'jim fixed it' badge!! ...ah yes 'jim' had 'mates' in high places did he not ? wink, wink!!
...'guess who' used to dust dahn the 'jim fixed it' badge!! ...ah yes 'jim' had 'mates' in high places did he not ? wink, wink!! commenting scoffer

11:04am Mon 15 Oct 12

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! says...

Daley ask your muver about Saville, she would know. Who's your Daddy ??


harold hill66... Yawn, run along now and stop dribbling down the leg of ya strides.
Daley ask your muver about Saville, she would know. Who's your Daddy ?? harold hill66... Yawn, run along now and stop dribbling down the leg of ya strides. Guess who ;) AGAIN !

9:32am Wed 17 Oct 12

gutter press reader says...

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Daley ask your muver about Saville, she would know. Who's your Daddy ?? harold hill66... Yawn, run along now and stop dribbling down the leg of ya strides.
# guess who you know what you are! :)
[quote][p][bold]Guess who ;) AGAIN ![/bold] wrote: Daley ask your muver about Saville, she would know. Who's your Daddy ?? harold hill66... Yawn, run along now and stop dribbling down the leg of ya strides.[/p][/quote]# guess who you know what you are! :) gutter press reader

10:11am Thu 18 Oct 12

bible scoffer says...

...oh my sides!! 'your mum' or 'your sister' or 'your dad' routine... rofl!! must try harder 'guess who' - failed!! ...do a little dance for us now will you ? sob!!
...oh my sides!! 'your mum' or 'your sister' or 'your dad' routine... rofl!! must try harder 'guess who' - failed!! ...do a little dance for us now will you ? sob!! bible scoffer

1:28pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Brian Sewer3 says...

Gues whos knew all about even it b4 jim sav was born har hah har numpty comment nice name 4 bit of tagging in worthing m8s har har ha
Gues whos knew all about even it b4 jim sav was born har hah har numpty comment nice name 4 bit of tagging in worthing m8s har har ha Brian Sewer3

4:36pm Fri 19 Oct 12

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! says...

bible scoffer wrote:
...oh my sides!! 'your mum' or 'your sister' or 'your dad' routine... rofl!! must try harder 'guess who' - failed!! ...do a little dance for us now will you ? sob!!
ROFL, 'do a little dance', ROFL, says the idiot who goes on about Erastus every other post.
[quote][p][bold]bible scoffer[/bold] wrote: ...oh my sides!! 'your mum' or 'your sister' or 'your dad' routine... rofl!! must try harder 'guess who' - failed!! ...do a little dance for us now will you ? sob!![/p][/quote]ROFL, 'do a little dance', ROFL, says the idiot who goes on about Erastus every other post. Guess who ;) AGAIN !

9:40pm Sat 20 Oct 12

mouthalmighty says...

This is brilliant. Not. Trivialising the horrific experiences of many people. Most of us was unsure of that man and struggled to respect him amongst all the media attention poured on his good work. He fulfilled his two passions. 1) helping people and 2) helping himself. He was very passionate and dedicated about both.
This is brilliant. Not. Trivialising the horrific experiences of many people. Most of us was unsure of that man and struggled to respect him amongst all the media attention poured on his good work. He fulfilled his two passions. 1) helping people and 2) helping himself. He was very passionate and dedicated about both. mouthalmighty

9:43pm Sat 20 Oct 12

mouthalmighty says...

Also newspapers. Can can you stop printing pictures of him. Knowing what could be true, turns my stomach.
Also newspapers. Can can you stop printing pictures of him. Knowing what could be true, turns my stomach. mouthalmighty

10:09am Sat 3 Nov 12

charity begins at home says...

I just find it so difficult to believe that so many people turned a blind eye to this man, it does seem he used his charity work to smoke screen his deseptive behavior thats for sure, as for the BBC i expected a better responce from them but then the system i think let all of his victims down and those that are still around should be called to explain themselves as to why ? the blame should not lay soley at the BBC door they are just one piece of the jigsaw that shamefully said nothing.............
I just find it so difficult to believe that so many people turned a blind eye to this man, it does seem he used his charity work to smoke screen his deseptive behavior thats for sure, as for the BBC i expected a better responce from them but then the system i think let all of his victims down and those that are still around should be called to explain themselves as to why ? the blame should not lay soley at the BBC door they are just one piece of the jigsaw that shamefully said nothing............. charity begins at home

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