Met investigates Stephen Lawrence brother racism complaint

Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993

Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993

First published in Crime News Shopper: Photograph of the Author by , deputy news editor

THE Met are looking into a complaint by Stephen Lawrence's brother that he is the victim of police racism.

Stuart Lawrence, 35, whose brother was killed by racist thugs in a 1993 Eltham murder, claims he has been stopped up to 25 times by police and never charged with anything.

A spokesman for the Met said: "Mr Lawrence's complaint, which we received last night, is a very serious matter and it will be investigated thoroughly and speedily.

"Stop and search is an important tool to combat crime and is supported by the community if it is used professionally and fairly. Officers are accountable for their actions and it is therefore essential complaints such as these are fully investigated.

"The commissioner has made it clear that he will not tolerate any form of racism in the Met. Strong action will be taken against any individuals in the Met if they are found to have acted in a racist manner."

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12:13pm Wed 9 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

Is it not time for this family to lose their chip?
Is it not time for this family to lose their chip? lord righteous
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12:49pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Only_me!! says...

Where does he get the conclusion it's "because I'm black", I'm glad the police and stopping and searching people more to be honest, especially with the amount if guns and knives on the streets of london
Where does he get the conclusion it's "because I'm black", I'm glad the police and stopping and searching people more to be honest, especially with the amount if guns and knives on the streets of london Only_me!!
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1:00pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Beckenham_Lion says...

This mob are on the news more than Posh & Becks.

I dont know if they have noticed but they are no longer the minority where they live!!
This mob are on the news more than Posh & Becks. I dont know if they have noticed but they are no longer the minority where they live!! Beckenham_Lion
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1:01pm Wed 9 Jan 13

simonwebb70 says...

Is this really news? The police should be commended and those with a chip on their shoulder should jog on as the vast majority of people are sick to death of "because I am black" excuses.
Is this really news? The police should be commended and those with a chip on their shoulder should jog on as the vast majority of people are sick to death of "because I am black" excuses. simonwebb70
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3:19pm Wed 9 Jan 13

the wall says...

Maybe your attitude is all wrong. From the age of 17 - 20 I must have been stopped 70+ times.

But with the name Lawrence Police are going to have to listen.
Maybe your attitude is all wrong. From the age of 17 - 20 I must have been stopped 70+ times. But with the name Lawrence Police are going to have to listen. the wall
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11:04pm Wed 9 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same.
How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same. mouthalmighty
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11:14pm Wed 9 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same.
Stop making a fool of yourself!
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same.[/p][/quote]Stop making a fool of yourself! lord righteous
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12:51am Thu 10 Jan 13

Blondesarahj says...

Stuff like this drives me mad! Stop and search is there to make London a safer place. So what if you get stopped a lot, suck it up! My son went to the Danson festival last year and was stopped and searched in there 3 times within a few hours. Anything to moan, you would think after what happened to Stephen he could see where the police are coming from.
Stuff like this drives me mad! Stop and search is there to make London a safer place. So what if you get stopped a lot, suck it up! My son went to the Danson festival last year and was stopped and searched in there 3 times within a few hours. Anything to moan, you would think after what happened to Stephen he could see where the police are coming from. Blondesarahj
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2:11am Thu 10 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

I get stopped loads because of the the time of night im driving around doing shift work. The majority of burglars who are active at this time of night are white so therefore i get stopped but whats the big deal ?

Oh yes im not black so cant make a big deal of it.

Lose the chip it gets boring after a while its not only blacks who are stopped regularly.
I get stopped loads because of the the time of night im driving around doing shift work. The majority of burglars who are active at this time of night are white so therefore i get stopped but whats the big deal ? Oh yes im not black so cant make a big deal of it. Lose the chip it gets boring after a while its not only blacks who are stopped regularly. toomush2drink
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9:54am Thu 10 Jan 13

Beckenham_Lion says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same.
Are you Doreen in disguise???
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: How many of our black youngsters are leaving the UK for a better life. It dosent matter how well they do and how well they behave, they'll have a lifetime of harassment from the police and people like the above in the comments. I know. A gentleman in his eighties still being picked on. the older black men will not complain, they just accept it. Why should the younsters accepot a life of constant interruptions and snide remarks, from institutions that should Know and behave better. I back the Lawrences all the way because they have guts and stamina to try and change things. Anyone with an ounce of decency will do the same.[/p][/quote]Are you Doreen in disguise??? Beckenham_Lion
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10:52am Thu 10 Jan 13

Hk says...

Oh for godsake. What is it with some people. Im with the majority - the stop and search is for the safety of the country. If you've got nothing to hide then it shouldnt matter to you that you have been stopped/searched. I was with the Lawrences all the way originally but now it really is getting a bit too much and bit too in your face.

As someone mentioned above, 'blacks' are no longer the minority in this country. In fact, where I live, Thamesmead, they are pretty much the majority, particularly since I started living there many years ago.

You are not being picked out because you are black. The police are just doing their job. It might not be you they find a knife on, or something else dodgy but it could be that they do find these things on someone else which could stop something awful from happening.

Stop with the 'chip on the shoulder'. It is really getting boring now.
Oh for godsake. What is it with some people. Im with the majority - the stop and search is for the safety of the country. If you've got nothing to hide then it shouldnt matter to you that you have been stopped/searched. I was with the Lawrences all the way originally but now it really is getting a bit too much and bit too in your face. As someone mentioned above, 'blacks' are no longer the minority in this country. In fact, where I live, Thamesmead, they are pretty much the majority, particularly since I started living there many years ago. You are not being picked out because you are black. The police are just doing their job. It might not be you they find a knife on, or something else dodgy but it could be that they do find these things on someone else which could stop something awful from happening. Stop with the 'chip on the shoulder'. It is really getting boring now. Hk
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3:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13

dsg700 says...

Stop and search.....What's wrong with it...NOT A SODDING THING.... IT'S THE.....IS IT COS I IS BLACK...that don't like it....I have been stopped more times than I can remember,,,,but am I running to the press....NO....
If he's got nothing on him then he has nothing to worry about...cos the next person they stop might have...then we have another stabbing..shooting,w
hich could be,
Mr Lawrence or someone he knows...then we would have a..why weren't the police doing there jobs..
As much as I'm not keen on the police..they have a job to do..
Stop and search.....What's wrong with it...NOT A SODDING THING.... IT'S THE.....IS IT COS I IS BLACK...that don't like it....I have been stopped more times than I can remember,,,,but am I running to the press....NO.... If he's got nothing on him then he has nothing to worry about...cos the next person they stop might have...then we have another stabbing..shooting,w hich could be, Mr Lawrence or someone he knows...then we would have a..why weren't the police doing there jobs.. As much as I'm not keen on the police..they have a job to do.. dsg700
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5:01pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Dartbored says...

There was in interesting “debate” about this on LBC the other morning. If you are a young, law abiding black man and are constantly getting stopped then it must start to grate after a while. But you have to accept that statistically, young black males are accountable for the majority of knife and gun crimes in the Capital and will therefore be subject to greater scrutiny. That’s not racist, it's policing based on statistics.

Do you remember the outcry when the Met Police Chief stated a few years back that 9 out of 10 muggings in London were committed by black males? People were going mad, accusing him of being racist – but why? It was just a fact. White kids are statistically more likely to rob someone’s house or steal someone’s car. It’s a statistic, but I don’t get all worked up about it.

One Police officer called in to LBC and said he would love to have a meeting with community leaders to discuss their ideas because at the moment they’re dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t – there’s an outcry over the continual stop and search of young black men, but when there’s yet another black on black stabbing, everyone starts moaning that the Police aren’t doing enough to tackle the problem.
There was in interesting “debate” about this on LBC the other morning. If you are a young, law abiding black man and are constantly getting stopped then it must start to grate after a while. But you have to accept that statistically, young black males are accountable for the majority of knife and gun crimes in the Capital and will therefore be subject to greater scrutiny. That’s not racist, it's policing based on statistics. Do you remember the outcry when the Met Police Chief stated a few years back that 9 out of 10 muggings in London were committed by black males? People were going mad, accusing him of being racist – but why? It was just a fact. White kids are statistically more likely to rob someone’s house or steal someone’s car. It’s a statistic, but I don’t get all worked up about it. One Police officer called in to LBC and said he would love to have a meeting with community leaders to discuss their ideas because at the moment they’re dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t – there’s an outcry over the continual stop and search of young black men, but when there’s yet another black on black stabbing, everyone starts moaning that the Police aren’t doing enough to tackle the problem. Dartbored
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5:45pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Mangetout says...

Am I being cynical or can I hear COMPO claim coming?
Am I being cynical or can I hear COMPO claim coming? Mangetout
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7:17pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz
Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz mouthalmighty
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7:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

And, also on LBC it was mentioned paedofiles were mainly white middle aged men. Why is this group not repeatedly raided at home? 2 reasons. One is that children and young people are not repected in this country nor are they considered important. And two, there would be an almighty outcry.
And, also on LBC it was mentioned paedofiles were mainly white middle aged men. Why is this group not repeatedly raided at home? 2 reasons. One is that children and young people are not repected in this country nor are they considered important. And two, there would be an almighty outcry. mouthalmighty
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8:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz
Perhaps with your amazing wisdom,you could tell us "what's going on"?
I must be really thick.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Perhaps with your amazing wisdom,you could tell us "what's going on"? I must be really thick. lord righteous
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8:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
And, also on LBC it was mentioned paedofiles were mainly white middle aged men. Why is this group not repeatedly raided at home? 2 reasons. One is that children and young people are not repected in this country nor are they considered important. And two, there would be an almighty outcry.
Your chip grows bigger each time you post.
FOOL
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: And, also on LBC it was mentioned paedofiles were mainly white middle aged men. Why is this group not repeatedly raided at home? 2 reasons. One is that children and young people are not repected in this country nor are they considered important. And two, there would be an almighty outcry.[/p][/quote]Your chip grows bigger each time you post. FOOL lord righteous
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11:28pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Got yerr.
Got yerr. mouthalmighty
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2:05am Fri 11 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz
Ok yep i admit it im middle aged, law abiding and still getting stopped but what is wrong ?
I do shift work and travel through some dodgy areas to get home.As whites statitically commit more burglaries it doesnt come as a surprise i get stopped regularly.

The difference is i accept thep olice are doing their job and dont jump on the racism arguement because it happens.
Yes most paedo's are white, i can freely admit that, but could other colours accept there are certain crimes related to their skin colour ?

I doubt it and whats the betting i get branded as racist for asking that simple question,the same subject politicians avoid for risk of being labelled the same.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Being stopped as a young man any colour is part of the territory in some areas. But when you are middle aged and law abiding and still being stopped then something is wrong. And what's this 'chip' some of the writers are talking about. Change the record, or are you too thick to think of something else to say. You all know full well what's going on, but for some sick reason you applaud it. I really don't know how some of you live satisfying lives with so much hate and revengeful thinking in your hearts. If I was religious, I would pray for you.zzzzzzzz[/p][/quote]Ok yep i admit it im middle aged, law abiding and still getting stopped but what is wrong ? I do shift work and travel through some dodgy areas to get home.As whites statitically commit more burglaries it doesnt come as a surprise i get stopped regularly. The difference is i accept thep olice are doing their job and dont jump on the racism arguement because it happens. Yes most paedo's are white, i can freely admit that, but could other colours accept there are certain crimes related to their skin colour ? I doubt it and whats the betting i get branded as racist for asking that simple question,the same subject politicians avoid for risk of being labelled the same. toomush2drink
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3:43pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Toomush2drink you sound like a decent honest bloke/woman, and I certainly wouldn't call you racist based on what you've just written.

Lord righteous, I don't think you can see further than your own nose. I have witnessed the 80yr old being harrased and his daughter Says its regular. I generally speak as I find. Try it. And stop trying to guess what every one else is thinking or feeling. Get out there and live.
Toomush2drink you sound like a decent honest bloke/woman, and I certainly wouldn't call you racist based on what you've just written. Lord righteous, I don't think you can see further than your own nose. I have witnessed the 80yr old being harrased and his daughter Says its regular. I generally speak as I find. Try it. And stop trying to guess what every one else is thinking or feeling. Get out there and live. mouthalmighty
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4:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Rev. Sue Scottley says...

MacPherson Report or not, the police are still using profiling based on stereotypes when deciding who to stop and search. I know I've walked down the street past coppers with a joint in my mouth (in my mis-spent youth) and they've not stopped or searched me, despite trailing a plume of illegal smelling smoke. The joys of being a white girl, eh?

All you people **** about people having chips on their shoulder need to consider their history and wake up and smell the racism. People with brown faces may be in the majority of residents of some areas but the people with the power are still white, and there's still a lot of inherent racism to be tackled, as many of these comments demonstrate.

Divide and rule, indeed.
MacPherson Report or not, the police are still using profiling based on stereotypes when deciding who to stop and search. I know I've walked down the street past coppers with a joint in my mouth (in my mis-spent youth) and they've not stopped or searched me, despite trailing a plume of illegal smelling smoke. The joys of being a white girl, eh? All you people **** about people having chips on their shoulder need to consider their history and wake up and smell the racism. People with brown faces may be in the majority of residents of some areas but the people with the power are still white, and there's still a lot of inherent racism to be tackled, as many of these comments demonstrate. Divide and rule, indeed. Rev. Sue Scottley
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5:10pm Fri 11 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Rev. Sue Scottley wrote:
MacPherson Report or not, the police are still using profiling based on stereotypes when deciding who to stop and search. I know I've walked down the street past coppers with a joint in my mouth (in my mis-spent youth) and they've not stopped or searched me, despite trailing a plume of illegal smelling smoke. The joys of being a white girl, eh? All you people **** about people having chips on their shoulder need to consider their history and wake up and smell the racism. People with brown faces may be in the majority of residents of some areas but the people with the power are still white, and there's still a lot of inherent racism to be tackled, as many of these comments demonstrate. Divide and rule, indeed.
It's not just so called "blacks", or so called "browns", its not exactly fashionable to be Romanian, Bulgarian, or Albanian either. Yet those who complain about racism against "blacks" are very silent when it comes to racism against "whites".

Having written the above, whilst yes, Stuart Lawrence does have a chip on his shoulder, no I don't blame him given the circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]Rev. Sue Scottley[/bold] wrote: MacPherson Report or not, the police are still using profiling based on stereotypes when deciding who to stop and search. I know I've walked down the street past coppers with a joint in my mouth (in my mis-spent youth) and they've not stopped or searched me, despite trailing a plume of illegal smelling smoke. The joys of being a white girl, eh? All you people **** about people having chips on their shoulder need to consider their history and wake up and smell the racism. People with brown faces may be in the majority of residents of some areas but the people with the power are still white, and there's still a lot of inherent racism to be tackled, as many of these comments demonstrate. Divide and rule, indeed.[/p][/quote]It's not just so called "blacks", or so called "browns", its not exactly fashionable to be Romanian, Bulgarian, or Albanian either. Yet those who complain about racism against "blacks" are very silent when it comes to racism against "whites". Having written the above, whilst yes, Stuart Lawrence does have a chip on his shoulder, no I don't blame him given the circumstances. goldenbroomboy
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8:15pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

How does being concerned about the future for ones self and ones children equal 'chip on shoulder'. If that's the case, give me a chip any day, I will wear it proudly and with dignity. Maybe likes of 'lord righteous' has not the guts nor desire to fight for his/her rights and lives miserably in the gutter because of this.
How does being concerned about the future for ones self and ones children equal 'chip on shoulder'. If that's the case, give me a chip any day, I will wear it proudly and with dignity. Maybe likes of 'lord righteous' has not the guts nor desire to fight for his/her rights and lives miserably in the gutter because of this. mouthalmighty
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12:47am Sat 12 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Toomush2drink you sound like a decent honest bloke/woman, and I certainly wouldn't call you racist based on what you've just written.

Lord righteous, I don't think you can see further than your own nose. I have witnessed the 80yr old being harrased and his daughter Says its regular. I generally speak as I find. Try it. And stop trying to guess what every one else is thinking or feeling. Get out there and live.
Ok so you see me as honest etc blah blah but can you answer the question do you think certain colours of people commit certain crimes.

I freely accept the majority of my colour are paedophiles so can you just answer the question " do you think certain crimes are committed by people of a certain colour ?"

Lets start with street robbery for example.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Toomush2drink you sound like a decent honest bloke/woman, and I certainly wouldn't call you racist based on what you've just written. Lord righteous, I don't think you can see further than your own nose. I have witnessed the 80yr old being harrased and his daughter Says its regular. I generally speak as I find. Try it. And stop trying to guess what every one else is thinking or feeling. Get out there and live.[/p][/quote]Ok so you see me as honest etc blah blah but can you answer the question do you think certain colours of people commit certain crimes. I freely accept the majority of my colour are paedophiles so can you just answer the question " do you think certain crimes are committed by people of a certain colour ?" Lets start with street robbery for example. toomush2drink
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1:05am Sat 12 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

From what I have witnessed toomuch2drink, no. I do not believe that street crime is committed mainly by blacks. I do believe though, that the majority of those caught are black. Make of that what you wish. Compartmentalising crime is stupid and serves no one but the paper shufflers. Every race has their criminals so if you are talking of a particular area you may be right, because majority rules.
From what I have witnessed toomuch2drink, no. I do not believe that street crime is committed mainly by blacks. I do believe though, that the majority of those caught are black. Make of that what you wish. Compartmentalising crime is stupid and serves no one but the paper shufflers. Every race has their criminals so if you are talking of a particular area you may be right, because majority rules. mouthalmighty
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9:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13

treesrgreen says...

I notice we havent been told how he was driving. The police wont just stop a car for no reason. I've seen enough young black men driving dangerously around where I live - on the phone, not wearing a seatbelt, slumped down in seat resting head against door, swerving from lane to lane, undertaking, speeding, aggressive driving - so if he was doing any of these on a regular basis and the police happened to see the car being driven in that way of course they would pull it over. If I drove like that I would expect to be a target aswell.

But cos I is not black I wouldn't have a get out excuse though, innit.
I notice we havent been told how he was driving. The police wont just stop a car for no reason. I've seen enough young black men driving dangerously around where I live - on the phone, not wearing a seatbelt, slumped down in seat resting head against door, swerving from lane to lane, undertaking, speeding, aggressive driving - so if he was doing any of these on a regular basis and the police happened to see the car being driven in that way of course they would pull it over. If I drove like that I would expect to be a target aswell. But cos I is not black I wouldn't have a get out excuse though, innit. treesrgreen
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9:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13

treesrgreen says...

With there being so much black on black violence, the police are hardly likely to stop and search a white old aged pensioner or an asian lady in a sari, are they?
With there being so much black on black violence, the police are hardly likely to stop and search a white old aged pensioner or an asian lady in a sari, are they? treesrgreen
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11:02pm Sat 12 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Define black on black violence. By calling an altercation between two people who happen to be black just that, implies that blackpeople shouldn't hate each other. White people commit crimes against each other but it is not called white on White, meaning its ok for whites to commit violence against each other. Why? And being stopped by police does not mean erratic or unlawful driving treesrgreen. Wake up and smell the coffee.
Define black on black violence. By calling an altercation between two people who happen to be black just that, implies that blackpeople shouldn't hate each other. White people commit crimes against each other but it is not called white on White, meaning its ok for whites to commit violence against each other. Why? And being stopped by police does not mean erratic or unlawful driving treesrgreen. Wake up and smell the coffee. mouthalmighty
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12:17am Sun 13 Jan 13

rarecockneyguvnor says...

treesrgreen wrote:
With there being so much black on black violence, the police are hardly likely to stop and search a white old aged pensioner or an asian lady in a sari, are they?
I just knew the BNP sockpuppets would appear on this story sooner or later.

Back to the cave you neanderthal.
[quote][p][bold]treesrgreen[/bold] wrote: With there being so much black on black violence, the police are hardly likely to stop and search a white old aged pensioner or an asian lady in a sari, are they?[/p][/quote]I just knew the BNP sockpuppets would appear on this story sooner or later. Back to the cave you neanderthal. rarecockneyguvnor
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5:36pm Sun 13 Jan 13

treesrgreen says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Define black on black violence. By calling an altercation between two people who happen to be black just that, implies that blackpeople shouldn't hate each other. White people commit crimes against each other but it is not called white on White, meaning its ok for whites to commit violence against each other. Why? And being stopped by police does not mean erratic or unlawful driving treesrgreen. Wake up and smell the coffee.
The fact a separate police organisation had to be set up - Trident - should give you a clue as to the problem

Mouthalmighty you must either be a tunnel visioned black person or a do gooder liberal white, because you don't seem able to see what's going on all around you. Yes white people commit crime too, I'm not denying that.

To some of the idiots on this site anybody who dares to speak the truth about crime/race are accused of being BNP/NF/racists/troll
s etc. Clearly you all have your heads in the sand or so far up your own smug backsides that you are unable to see the reality of what's going on all around.

Take a look at this archived extract from bbc.co.uk - unless of course they are really a racist organisation and not a news broadcaster:-

"Black-on-black gun crime is on the rise

The New Year’s Eve party was going well until someone trod on the toe of another reveller. The offending person refused to apologise, a gun was produced, and two people died.

The shooter has not been caught.

It’s just one example of how guns are being used in what has become known as "black-on-black" crime.

In some parts of London, according to the police, some young men now carry firearms routinely.

The message coming from the media and some politicians is that young black men are potential criminals

The Commission for Racial Equality The guns are not just for show. They are loaded, and they are being used to settle arguments, sometimes over issues of "respect".

Last year in London, there were 156 shootings within the black community, an increase of 96% on the previous year. The total included 19 murders.

So far this year, there have been 65 firearms incidents, up more than 60% on the same period last year. Eight people have died.

Scotland Yard set up Operation Trident to try to halt the rise in these "black on black" shootings.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Define black on black violence. By calling an altercation between two people who happen to be black just that, implies that blackpeople shouldn't hate each other. White people commit crimes against each other but it is not called white on White, meaning its ok for whites to commit violence against each other. Why? And being stopped by police does not mean erratic or unlawful driving treesrgreen. Wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]The fact a separate police organisation had to be set up - Trident - should give you a clue as to the problem Mouthalmighty you must either be a tunnel visioned black person or a do gooder liberal white, because you don't seem able to see what's going on all around you. Yes white people commit crime too, I'm not denying that. To some of the idiots on this site anybody who dares to speak the truth about crime/race are accused of being BNP/NF/racists/troll s etc. Clearly you all have your heads in the sand or so far up your own smug backsides that you are unable to see the reality of what's going on all around. Take a look at this archived extract from bbc.co.uk - unless of course they are really a racist organisation and not a news broadcaster:- "Black-on-black gun crime is on the rise The New Year’s Eve party was going well until someone trod on the toe of another reveller. The offending person refused to apologise, a gun was produced, and two people died. The shooter has not been caught. It’s just one example of how guns are being used in what has become known as "black-on-black" crime. In some parts of London, according to the police, some young men now carry firearms routinely. The message coming from the media and some politicians is that young black men are potential criminals The Commission for Racial Equality The guns are not just for show. They are loaded, and they are being used to settle arguments, sometimes over issues of "respect". Last year in London, there were 156 shootings within the black community, an increase of 96% on the previous year. The total included 19 murders. So far this year, there have been 65 firearms incidents, up more than 60% on the same period last year. Eight people have died. Scotland Yard set up Operation Trident to try to halt the rise in these "black on black" shootings. treesrgreen
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9:30pm Sun 13 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Treesrgreen you seem to spend an awful(emphasis on awful)lot of time reading about the very small minority of black people. Are you keeping track because you are interested or so that you can spread your evil words all over the land. You must know black people, so can you honestly say all blacks are the same. You can't can you, but you can't help yourself because you are addicted to hate and try as you might, you have to Get your fix. Give it up. You wii not win.
Treesrgreen you seem to spend an awful(emphasis on awful)lot of time reading about the very small minority of black people. Are you keeping track because you are interested or so that you can spread your evil words all over the land. You must know black people, so can you honestly say all blacks are the same. You can't can you, but you can't help yourself because you are addicted to hate and try as you might, you have to Get your fix. Give it up. You wii not win. mouthalmighty
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10:14am Mon 14 Jan 13

the wall says...

I read the other day that this is from the age of 17. So over 18 years works out 1.3 times a year.
I read the other day that this is from the age of 17. So over 18 years works out 1.3 times a year. the wall
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11:45am Mon 14 Jan 13

cm punk says...

And my views on the racist moderation on this site vanishes
And my views on the racist moderation on this site vanishes cm punk
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12:32pm Mon 14 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Treesrgreen you seem to spend an awful(emphasis on awful)lot of time reading about the very small minority of black people. Are you keeping track because you are interested or so that you can spread your evil words all over the land. You must know black people, so can you honestly say all blacks are the same. You can't can you, but you can't help yourself because you are addicted to hate and try as you might, you have to Get your fix. Give it up. You wii not win.
You really cannot see what a fool you are making of yourself.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Treesrgreen you seem to spend an awful(emphasis on awful)lot of time reading about the very small minority of black people. Are you keeping track because you are interested or so that you can spread your evil words all over the land. You must know black people, so can you honestly say all blacks are the same. You can't can you, but you can't help yourself because you are addicted to hate and try as you might, you have to Get your fix. Give it up. You wii not win.[/p][/quote]You really cannot see what a fool you are making of yourself. lord righteous
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7:13pm Mon 14 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
From what I have witnessed toomuch2drink, no. I do not believe that street crime is committed mainly by blacks. I do believe though, that the majority of those caught are black. Make of that what you wish. Compartmentalising crime is stupid and serves no one but the paper shufflers. Every race has their criminals so if you are talking of a particular area you may be right, because majority rules.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/c
rime/7856404/Police-
statistics-shed-fres
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een-crime-and-race.h
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http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/news/uknews/c
rime/7856787/Violent
-inner-city-crime-th
e-figures-and-a-ques
tion-of-race.html

Read and educate yourself, most street robbery is commited by black males on other black males even though the majority of males in london are not black.

A member of my family happens to be a solicitor doing legal aid and guess what colour the majority of the clients are for street robbery ? For burglary its whites but for robbery its nearly always blacks.

Facts are facts and the sooner people stop ignoring the issues and tackle them then only then can change happen from within the communties.

So statistically as a black person you can be expected to be robbed by another black person far more than a white person would, but you reckon its wrong to compartmentalise crime ?
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: From what I have witnessed toomuch2drink, no. I do not believe that street crime is committed mainly by blacks. I do believe though, that the majority of those caught are black. Make of that what you wish. Compartmentalising crime is stupid and serves no one but the paper shufflers. Every race has their criminals so if you are talking of a particular area you may be right, because majority rules.[/p][/quote]http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/c rime/7856404/Police- statistics-shed-fres h-light-on-link-betw een-crime-and-race.h tml http://www.telegraph .co.uk/news/uknews/c rime/7856787/Violent -inner-city-crime-th e-figures-and-a-ques tion-of-race.html Read and educate yourself, most street robbery is commited by black males on other black males even though the majority of males in london are not black. A member of my family happens to be a solicitor doing legal aid and guess what colour the majority of the clients are for street robbery ? For burglary its whites but for robbery its nearly always blacks. Facts are facts and the sooner people stop ignoring the issues and tackle them then only then can change happen from within the communties. So statistically as a black person you can be expected to be robbed by another black person far more than a white person would, but you reckon its wrong to compartmentalise crime ? toomush2drink
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8:07pm Mon 14 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.
Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same. mouthalmighty
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8:52pm Mon 14 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.
And that very judgemental attitude you despise so much is your defence to my very truthful facts ?

Far from trying to stir up racial tensions but looking at it from a fact based point of view, like i have already said the majority of paedophiles are white but not a single contributer to this thread has taken offence to that fact have they ?

You have no idea about me, who my friends are or anything else about me but are so quick to hide behind your chip on shoulder generated response that im trying to stir up racial tension.
Prior to getting married my last relationship was with someone who is mixed race.
The fact she agrees with my views shows at least some people have woken up and smelt the coffee.

You sir are in fact the misguided racist here.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.[/p][/quote]And that very judgemental attitude you despise so much is your defence to my very truthful facts ? Far from trying to stir up racial tensions but looking at it from a fact based point of view, like i have already said the majority of paedophiles are white but not a single contributer to this thread has taken offence to that fact have they ? You have no idea about me, who my friends are or anything else about me but are so quick to hide behind your chip on shoulder generated response that im trying to stir up racial tension. Prior to getting married my last relationship was with someone who is mixed race. The fact she agrees with my views shows at least some people have woken up and smelt the coffee. You sir are in fact the misguided racist here. toomush2drink
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8:54pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Kudos to you mouthalmighty.
Kudos to you mouthalmighty. Gypo.Joe
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11:54pm Mon 14 Jan 13

lord righteous says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Kudos to you mouthalmighty.
b@ll@cks to mouthalmighty.
(s)He should get back to giving out parking tickets.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Kudos to you mouthalmighty.[/p][/quote]b@ll@cks to mouthalmighty. (s)He should get back to giving out parking tickets. lord righteous
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8:46am Tue 15 Jan 13

Tip-Top says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.
"scumbag"....calling people names isn’t a nice trait .
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.[/p][/quote]"scumbag"....calling people names isn’t a nice trait . Tip-Top
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9:27am Tue 15 Jan 13

PaulErith says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.
I don't think that someone stating some facts and figures on here is going to 'stir up racial tensions'. The immigration policies of sucessive governments have already done this without anyone else's input.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Me thinks I've hit a nerve. What you speak maybe facts, part of the facts, facts that have been chosen to cause offence and stir up racial tensions. It dosent take much, and you know that; you love to see hate and anger around you, you love the feel of it. Scumbag. I hope Doreen and her family and friends continue to have strength to fight for what is right. And I hope others will gain confidence to do the same.[/p][/quote]I don't think that someone stating some facts and figures on here is going to 'stir up racial tensions'. The immigration policies of sucessive governments have already done this without anyone else's input. PaulErith
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10:43am Tue 15 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Lots of finger pointing, and yes there is a problem what's the answer though ?
Lots of finger pointing, and yes there is a problem what's the answer though ? Gypo.Joe
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6:29pm Tue 15 Jan 13

mouthalmighty says...

Toomuch2drink at no time have I ever called you a racist, but thank for TMI about your personal life. I merely stated that you only quote part of the truth. Black people do a lot of good and are well integrated into the community. A few good comments would be appreciated amongst the bad. A special police unit was set up to deal with black on black crime, yes. But why? What is the real reason for this action? And don't forget, England was the first country. In the world to have need of a police force.
Toomuch2drink at no time have I ever called you a racist, but thank for TMI about your personal life. I merely stated that you only quote part of the truth. Black people do a lot of good and are well integrated into the community. A few good comments would be appreciated amongst the bad. A special police unit was set up to deal with black on black crime, yes. But why? What is the real reason for this action? And don't forget, England was the first country. In the world to have need of a police force. mouthalmighty
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10:34pm Tue 15 Jan 13

cm punk says...

The Nazishopper continues to allow racists to fester unabated on this site
The Nazishopper continues to allow racists to fester unabated on this site cm punk
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7:51am Wed 16 Jan 13

Toohonest81 says...

First of all, why do black people always call the race card? If you didn't run around in gangs with guns thinking your mr big then you will be left alone, what is it we hear on the news? Another black boy been killed by a gang member, do tell me again why as I said you play the race card because you bring it on yourselfs? And secondly, it is sad that the Lawrence family lost a child, no parent should have to lose there child but, all this is about is they used there sons death for fame and money, they have been out if the lime light for too long now they have to think of something else to get in the news? That's how it is.
First of all, why do black people always call the race card? If you didn't run around in gangs with guns thinking your mr big then you will be left alone, what is it we hear on the news? Another black boy been killed by a gang member, do tell me again why as I said you play the race card because you bring it on yourselfs? And secondly, it is sad that the Lawrence family lost a child, no parent should have to lose there child but, all this is about is they used there sons death for fame and money, they have been out if the lime light for too long now they have to think of something else to get in the news? That's how it is. Toohonest81
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12:22pm Wed 16 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
Toomuch2drink at no time have I ever called you a racist, but thank for TMI about your personal life. I merely stated that you only quote part of the truth. Black people do a lot of good and are well integrated into the community. A few good comments would be appreciated amongst the bad. A special police unit was set up to deal with black on black crime, yes. But why? What is the real reason for this action? And don't forget, England was the first country. In the world to have need of a police force.
You tell us why the police unit was set up, it wasnt to tackle white on white crime was it ? Perhaps look at the facts i posted earlier if you wonder why ?
Black people are more likely to be a victim of crime committed by another black person hence the trident unit.

Ok you didnt call me a racist but your posts come across like you are racist against whites or authority if anyone dares to have an opinion you dont like backed up with facts.

I never questioned if black people are bad, good and bad exists in humans fullstop.Most paedos are white so colour isnt related to crime but it is related to certain types of crime,fact.

A lot of my colleagues and friends are black and yes they do a lot of good but that isnt what this thread is all about.
Its about someone claiming the police are racist because he got stopped by them.I pointed out i too have been stopped by them many times too but i dont shout racism do i ?

Every time someone plays the race card when its not needed you give ammo to those who do have a problem with colour.
In my old job i was called a racist nearly everyday, it got boring especially when the person i was working with was black.I let my black colleagues deal with them instead and it turned to the "your a coconut,bounty,choc-
ice" taunts instead.
Never once did a white person use language related to my colour when trying to abuse me.
I saw africans abusing my jamaican colleagues and vice versa,the black on black hate is ridiculous, far worse than white on black.

Get your own house in order before moaning about what others do.
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: Toomuch2drink at no time have I ever called you a racist, but thank for TMI about your personal life. I merely stated that you only quote part of the truth. Black people do a lot of good and are well integrated into the community. A few good comments would be appreciated amongst the bad. A special police unit was set up to deal with black on black crime, yes. But why? What is the real reason for this action? And don't forget, England was the first country. In the world to have need of a police force.[/p][/quote]You tell us why the police unit was set up, it wasnt to tackle white on white crime was it ? Perhaps look at the facts i posted earlier if you wonder why ? Black people are more likely to be a victim of crime committed by another black person hence the trident unit. Ok you didnt call me a racist but your posts come across like you are racist against whites or authority if anyone dares to have an opinion you dont like backed up with facts. I never questioned if black people are bad, good and bad exists in humans fullstop.Most paedos are white so colour isnt related to crime but it is related to certain types of crime,fact. A lot of my colleagues and friends are black and yes they do a lot of good but that isnt what this thread is all about. Its about someone claiming the police are racist because he got stopped by them.I pointed out i too have been stopped by them many times too but i dont shout racism do i ? Every time someone plays the race card when its not needed you give ammo to those who do have a problem with colour. In my old job i was called a racist nearly everyday, it got boring especially when the person i was working with was black.I let my black colleagues deal with them instead and it turned to the "your a coconut,bounty,choc- ice" taunts instead. Never once did a white person use language related to my colour when trying to abuse me. I saw africans abusing my jamaican colleagues and vice versa,the black on black hate is ridiculous, far worse than white on black. Get your own house in order before moaning about what others do. toomush2drink
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