Hilarious, ADHD has reared its head again.

Linda, are you telling us that you could not control your child before he reached the height of 6' 2"?

Instead of taking charge of the boy, you took the easy way out and gave him a label, deciding that it was better to dose him up on drugs than take proper responsibility for your offspring.

Now the taxpayers have another burden while he holidays in prison and something else not to look forward to when he gets out and starts committing more crimes.

You said you asked for help from the social services. I daresay you and your 'partner' still do on a daily basis and the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately pay the price for your disorganised existences.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

If any of you would like to learn a little more about the 'condition' known as ADHD, why not visit this old blog in the Your Shopper section:

ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOUR CHILD IS NOT ANOTHER EINSTEIN

Posted by Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott at 7:43am on Sat 24 May 2008.

Your Lord is sure that you will find the discussion enlightening.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

erastus theobald piggott, you aint got a clue what you are talking about, i have been trying to get help for my sons anger promlems for 2years now and no one will help me he is only 9years old. i am a mum who wants to stop it now but i need help. and before you say it yes i am alone with my children and thats not my fault.i try to do what is best for them and out of 3boys he is the only one like this.

When my son was at primary school he would get into trouble with fighting but with my help and the teachers we taught him fighting is not the answer to solve problems after some effort it sunk in.

Then he started secondary school and within the first 4 months he started bunking lessons because everyone else was. When I found out I grounded him for 2 months and took all his things out of his room, his TV and computer games consoles. I taught him that his friends may try to persuade him to do things but he was the only one who would suffer. His friends never got grounded for 2 months they were all back out playing after a week. He hated being grounded and hasn't bunked off a lesson since.

He has freedom with his friends but as soon as he breaks my rules his freedom is taken away.

When my son was at primary school he would get into trouble with fighting but with my help and the teachers we taught him fighting is not the answer to solve problems after some effort it sunk in.

Then he started secondary school and within the first 4 months he started bunking lessons because everyone else was. When I found out I grounded him for 2 months and took all his things out of his room, his TV and computer games consoles. I taught him that his friends may try to persuade him to do things but he was the only one who would suffer. His friends never got grounded for 2 months they were all back out playing after a week. He hated being grounded and hasn't bunked off a lesson since.

He has freedom with his friends but as soon as he breaks my rules his freedom is taken away.

Wendy, firstly you should address me as 'My Lord'.

Secondly, everyone is different. Your third, highly-strung child obviously needs more discipline than his siblings but you are too weak to carry out the necessary action.

Thirdly, try to improve your English language skills; or perhaps you suffer from that other imaginary condition - dyslexia?

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Wendy, firstly you should address me as 'My Lord'. Secondly, everyone is different. Your third, highly-strung child obviously needs more discipline than his siblings but you are too weak to carry out the necessary action. Thirdly, try to improve your English language skills; or perhaps you suffer from that other imaginary condition - dyslexia? Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

Harsh!!

Did you get out of the four poster the wrong side this morning?

No, not harsh - firm but fair.

By the way, I never get out of the wrong side of the bed as I am always on the right side of everything.

Bag Lady, it is a shame you could not have used your time on here more productively by leaving a comment about the actual story.

Still, I suppose that would be pushing your 3 brain cells a bit too far.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

It is very hard when your child falls into this way of life and I do understand as I have been there.
Schools hold alot of key issues when the child starts to go down the wrong road.
My child had the same problems starting with school, then gangs but I was one of the lucky ones.
I kept him In for 5 months when I found out what his street life was like at the age of 15 and yes he was bigger than me and stronger, but not in mind or he would never had been at the place he was at that stage in his life.
Once kept in then started the hard work (a under statement ) to change his veiws on life and this was on going month after month.
I was lucky because now 17 I have a different child, no more police stations and thinking it was hard and the gang issues, as we drumed into his head how nice and far better it is to be known for being yourself instead of part of a gang.
But if this had been the veiw of the school it would have been better, they hold to much power to send your child into the street and turn them into a lost child on the education system, home education is a word they like to put into parents heads now so it looks like its the parents choice and not the school, beware any parent should a school sugest this it is a cop out on the schools part. It does not work for a child unless you have the brains to do it.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Hilarious, ADHD has reared its head again. Linda, are you telling us that you could not control your child before he reached the height of 6' 2"? Instead of taking charge of the boy, you took the easy way out and gave him a label, deciding that it was better to dose him up on drugs than take proper responsibility for your offspring. Now the taxpayers have another burden while he holidays in prison and something else not to look forward to when he gets out and starts committing more crimes. You said you asked for help from the social services. I daresay you and your 'partner' still do on a daily basis and the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately pay the price for your disorganised existences. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

You really should not comment on things you know absolutely nothing about. I know exactly what this lady is talking about and people like you really do make my blood boil. I would also like to mention before you start - No I AM NOT A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYER AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. I AM STILL WITH MY CHILDREN'S FATHER AND WE BOTH WORK FULL TIME! ADHD is not a label and the drugs they are given would not work on a child who did not have ADHD. The drugs are "speed" based so in an ordinary child it would actually make them hyperactive. It took me 2 years to get my son diagnosed and that was only with the threat of legal action against the school/health authority.

Nicky wrote:

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote: Hilarious, ADHD has reared its head again. Linda, are you telling us that you could not control your child before he reached the height of 6' 2"? Instead of taking charge of the boy, you took the easy way out and gave him a label, deciding that it was better to dose him up on drugs than take proper responsibility for your offspring. Now the taxpayers have another burden while he holidays in prison and something else not to look forward to when he gets out and starts committing more crimes. You said you asked for help from the social services. I daresay you and your 'partner' still do on a daily basis and the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately pay the price for your disorganised existences. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

You really should not comment on things you know absolutely nothing about. I know exactly what this lady is talking about and people like you really do make my blood boil. I would also like to mention before you start - No I AM NOT A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYER AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. I AM STILL WITH MY CHILDREN'S FATHER AND WE BOTH WORK FULL TIME! ADHD is not a label and the drugs they are given would not work on a child who did not have ADHD. The drugs are "speed" based so in an ordinary child it would actually make them hyperactive. It took me 2 years to get my son diagnosed and that was only with the threat of legal action against the school/health authority.

ADHD = Weak parents who have no control over their kids but will not accept responsibility for it so label the child instead.

Result: I feel sorry for your kids!

Kitten wrote:

Nicky wrote:

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote: Hilarious, ADHD has reared its head again. Linda, are you telling us that you could not control your child before he reached the height of 6' 2"? Instead of taking charge of the boy, you took the easy way out and gave him a label, deciding that it was better to dose him up on drugs than take proper responsibility for your offspring. Now the taxpayers have another burden while he holidays in prison and something else not to look forward to when he gets out and starts committing more crimes. You said you asked for help from the social services. I daresay you and your 'partner' still do on a daily basis and the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately pay the price for your disorganised existences. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

You really should not comment on things you know absolutely nothing about. I know exactly what this lady is talking about and people like you really do make my blood boil. I would also like to mention before you start - No I AM NOT A BURDEN TO THE TAXPAYER AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. I AM STILL WITH MY CHILDREN'S FATHER AND WE BOTH WORK FULL TIME! ADHD is not a label and the drugs they are given would not work on a child who did not have ADHD. The drugs are "speed" based so in an ordinary child it would actually make them hyperactive. It took me 2 years to get my son diagnosed and that was only with the threat of legal action against the school/health authority.

ADHD = Weak parents who have no control over their kids but will not accept responsibility for it so label the child instead. Result: I feel sorry for your kids!

You are so up your own ar*e. What do you know about it? Don't feel sorry for my kids they are doing extremely well. They are now 21, 17 and 16 with the older 2 working and the youngest one (the one with ADHD) having just finished his GCSEs and having 2 college places to choose from. Every time I look at the comments on this site it either you or "Your Lord" making some sarky comment which you both probably think is really witty but everyone else just thinks you are sad. You really need to research something before you make ignorant comments about it. ADHD is a mental illness which doesn't only affect children. My mother-in-law and my sister-in-law both have the "adult" form of it. But I'm sure you will find something detrimental to say about that too because that is the sort of person you are.

I have a cure for these kids with so called ADHD..... FATHERS!!

Behind the vast majority of these cases of feral youths running riot on the streets of London are single parent mothers and absent fathers.

I am sick and tired of everyone trying to avoid mentioning the elephant in the room. Children need fathers to play an active role in their lives. Especially black boys, and before some of you scream racism I'm black myself.

I fear this problem will take many years to resolve as many youths are lost and are beyond saving. Intervention has come far too late for them. The only method that can now be used to contain them will be jail I'm afraid.

We must somehow go back to basics and create a society where it is culturally unacceptable or at least frowned upon for children to be born to teenage parents who are children themselves. The ideal would be for children to be born within wedlock. Yes, it may be old fashioned and I appreciate that relationships can breakdown from time to time, but as a society we must strive for the ideal of a two parent family.

Surely we cannot continue with the current status quo where somehow society has evolved to accept that children can be dragged up by teenage mothers who are essentially kids themselves. How can we be surprised when their offspring become the criminals of tomorrow?

terry what do i do then? It is not my boys fault there dad died 3years ago, And im sorry but i cant go onto the street and find them a new dad. i do try my best and like i said get no help.

I think Anon from S E London has the right perspective on this.

I always talked to my children, had time for them, explained things to them, and meant it when I said "no". If I made a threat I would carry it out. I had respect for them and their property, and they have the same respect for others. I can honesty say that I have never had a moment's worry or grief with them, even through their teenage years.

I think ADHD is a genuine illness in very few cases only. I think it is grossly over-diagnosed. In 5 or 10 years time we will be reading about research that shows that the majority of ADHD diagnoses were incorrect. Probably only one in every hundred children diagnosed with it actually have a "problem". The other 99% are, in my opnion, more than likely the unruly product of mothers who just shout at their kids then turn back to the tv and let them carry on. We've all met them, the ones who threaten punishment if behaviour is repeated and then ignore it when it is.

I have found that friends who just shouted and barked at their kids are the ones with similar problems to Linda now, and the ones who have actually had time to talk and interact with their children now have well behaved and well adjusted teenagers.

I do agree with Linda in the article that a short sharp shock at the start of any bad behaviour will in a lot of cases stop the downward trend. But with proper parenting from the start I beleive they wouldn't ever reach that point in the first place.

Children have to know there are consequences to their actions. If you say "You do that again and you're not going to get (whatever)" then **** well carry it through.

Terry you are right to an extent, but I had no father and through my mother's good parenting we all turned out very well behaved and none of us went off the rails. One parent can bring children up very well, but they have to put in the effort - which is just not happening in so many cases. A vast majority of single parents saw a meal ticket in benefits and don't have their heart in parenting.

'linda' my heart goes out to you, life must have been very difficult but you still kept trying, all credit to you

how ironic that some posting here pompously preaching about lack of discipline are in fact themselves behaving appalling, and continuing to set an terrible example...

shame their parents were seemingly too 'weak' to teach them some simple manners then perhaps they wouldn't have turned into the rude, nasty bullies they consistently show themselves to be...

shame these people cannot practice what they preach

ADHD is like the tooth fairy, made up to serve a purpose!

You mothers cannot pull the wool over my eyes, pull your socks up and take responsibility for your childs behaviour!

We never had this problem when parents, and schools, were allowed to smack children. There is no discipline any more. Trying to "reason" with young children is no deterrent to bad behaviour. Bring back the birch!

If it is a true mental illness then how comes it has only got worse in the last couple of years, when I was in school not one person had ADHD they were just naughty children who didn't do as there parents told them to do, children need discipline set out and stuck to when growing up, if your not going to say no and stick to it then how do you expect a child to learn right from wrong, I agree with Terry, Children having children should be stopped, and the impression that they will get their own place through the council if they get pregnant young should also be put right!

My lil cousin supposdly has ADHD but when over my house and told no he listens cause he knows it wont be tolerated, he never acts up for me!!

Kitten wrote:
ADHD is like the tooth fairy, made up to serve a purpose! You mothers cannot pull the wool over my eyes, pull your socks up and take responsibility for your childs behaviour!

Can someone change this one please. She's messed herself again and just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over...

Sisyphus wrote:

Kitten wrote: ADHD is like the tooth fairy, made up to serve a purpose! You mothers cannot pull the wool over my eyes, pull your socks up and take responsibility for your childs behaviour!

Can someone change this one please. She's messed herself again and just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over...

You can talk Syphilus you talk non stop crap on the forums all day. Why are you back on here now bored everyone to death on the forums have you?

Put a sock in it before someone else does!

Kitten wrote:

Sisyphus wrote:

Kitten wrote: ADHD is like the tooth fairy, made up to serve a purpose! You mothers cannot pull the wool over my eyes, pull your socks up and take responsibility for your childs behaviour!

Can someone change this one please. She's messed herself again and just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over...

You can talk Syphilus you talk non stop crap on the forums all day. Why are you back on here now bored everyone to death on the forums have you? Put a sock in it before someone else does!

The difference - or one of them, there are many - between you and I, is that I generally engage in serious debate - which to your child-like mind is "crap" or "boring" - whereas you just spit out ill-informed and semi-literate bile at people you don't know, have never met and never will.

Coming from a person who has failed even to make a comment on this story just simply come straight on here and targeted my comment?

You talk out of your rear end darling!

Kitten wrote:
Coming from a person who has failed even to make a comment on this story just simply come straight on here and targeted my comment? You talk out of your rear end darling!

I fail to see how that's relevant. Or, in fact, how you are relevant.

Sispyphus take my advice you need to get yourself some girl then you would have a brighter outlook on life and stop being so stiff!

Kitten wrote:
Sispyphus take my advice you need to get yourself some girl then you would have a brighter outlook on life and stop being so stiff!

Happily attached with two kids, thanks.

Living in a s*e*xless marriage.... no wonder you are so uptight!

Kitten wrote:
Living in a s*e*xless marriage.... no wonder you are so uptight!

Ha ha ha ha ha...

Sisyphus after all this time I now understand your plight!

Kitten wrote:
Sisyphus after all this time I now understand your plight!

No, it's all right, I was laughing because that genuinely is the only thing you can think of to say isn't it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

some here might want to reflect on comments made by sir alan steer who has been reviewing behaviour in schools for a govt report -

'Adults give young 'bad example'' (bbc 11/07/08)

"Parents and adults too often set a bad example for young people..."

"Sometimes as adults we don't model the behaviour we would want youngsters to follow. We live in a greedy culture, we are rude to each other in the street. Children follow that."

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott wrote:
Hilarious, ADHD has reared its head again.

Linda, are you telling us that you could not control your child before he reached the height of 6\' 2\"?

Instead of taking charge of the boy, you took the easy way out and gave him a label, deciding that it was better to dose him up on drugs than take proper responsibility for your offspring.

Now the taxpayers have another burden while he holidays in prison and something else not to look forward to when he gets out and starts committing more crimes.

You said you asked for help from the social services. I daresay you and your \'partner\' still do on a daily basis and the taxpayers are the ones who ultimately pay the price for your disorganised existences.

Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott

i see from another article you like to be addressed LORD, well dream on sunshine, You haven't got a clue, you are so up your own a**e think that you are above everyone, ADHD is quite common now, and my son has it, You haven't got a clue about Linda and her partner and the rest of the family have been through. ADHD is a disability and that's a fact, it's not a case of labeling anyone, As Linda said she doesn't condone what her son done but the point is that there should be more help out there for offenders and high risk offenders, but there isn't. Oh and yes i do know Linda and her family, you live in world coo-coo land because I'd like to see you deal with a child in his situation, maybe then you would realise how difficult it is. Yes he is in prison but it's no holiday where he is.
Giving someone medication isn't wrong, it's a calmer that helps through the right people on the right dosage but we as parents can't decide that only the consultant can. Linda doesn't need you to tell her about responsibilities, She done everything she could and will continue fighting for more help with help from her family and friends. What Linda done going public took alot of courage and i for one am proud of her for speaking out for the parents that can't.

cassie wrote:
\'linda\' my heart goes out to you, life must have been very difficult but you still kept trying, all credit to you

how ironic that some posting here pompously preaching about lack of discipline are in fact themselves behaving appalling, and continuing to set an terrible example...

shame their parents were seemingly too \'weak\' to teach them some simple manners then perhaps they wouldn\'t have turned into the rude, nasty bullies they consistently show themselves to be...

shame these people cannot practice what they preach

Hi Cassie, as i friend of Linda's I'd like to thank you for you comment, Linda is very strong willed and with fight to the end, well said with the rest of your comment

Respect to Linda for doing what she had to do, it must have been hard, but hopefully her son will learn from his experience inside the cells.

Terry - you are right in some cases. That said, the two worst behaved boys by far in my year group (Y9) are 2 boys who live with single dads. One dad 'reasons' with his son all the time but never puts any boundaries in place and never says NO. The other says no, but then when his son goes ballistic, he gives in for an easy life.

Both boys are lesson destroyers and are spectacularly rude and abusive to staff. Both are unlikely to make it to the end of Y11 without being either permanently excluded (and trust me, that is VERY VERY hard to do) or on a severely reduced timetable. I agree it would not be the best thing for THEM, but how long should other kids sit there watching their education go down the toilet because these boys destroy all their lessons and treat their teachers like sh*t??
Schools are absolutely STUCK with these kids - I feel desperately sorry for all the absolutely lovely kids in my year group who have to suffer these boys day in, day out.