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BECKENHAM: Mentally ill patients tracked by GPS device


A SCHEME that tracks mentally ill patients so they are traceable if they abscond has gone live after two successful trials.

The system at Royal Bethlem Hospital is the first time any such device has been introduced within NHS mental health services.

It works by GPS technology with anyone on leave from the hospital’s medium secure unit River House having to wear a tamper proof device.

This provides information about their whereabouts when they are outside the secure perimeter of the unit in Monks Orchard Road, Beckenham.

If they are late back from their leave then the police can be notified of their location and pick them up.

The scheme has been brought in at the hospital, which is run by South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust (SLaM), after two trials.

Patients volunteered to take part in a small scale trial at the end of last year and a larger scale trial with 35 tracking devices took place in the spring.

SLaM now has 60 of the GPS devices.

The clinical director of SLaM’s forensic services Professor Tom Fahy said: "The aim for virtually all of our patients is to eventually rehabilitate them safely and well back into the community.

“It's a necessary part of the rehabilitation process that patients will take leave from hospital.

"These devices enable us to confirm the patient's location when they are on leave, ensure that they adhere to the conditions of their leave and it really gives us an extra layer of safety."

Comments(16)

mum2kids says...
9:00am Wed 1 Sep 10

This is a disaster waiting to happen. Does the tag ensure that the patients take their medication or check their mood and stability?

I can just see the already stretched police force being able to go on a search for an unpredictable individual. By the time they do the paperwork, it will be too late.

porkpie says...
11:30am Wed 1 Sep 10

O No the mental people are all out to kill us !

Locked and Loaded says...
12:50pm Wed 1 Sep 10

WTF does that sh1t eating grin on the prof supposed to tell us ?

"tamper proof" tell that to the loons.

RedRevolver says...
2:32pm Wed 1 Sep 10

It's people like the above, and treatment like this that makes me want to work for Mind all the more.

Locked and Loaded says...
3:19pm Wed 1 Sep 10

Professor Tom Fahy, AKA 'Bricktop'.
" You touch that tag you f'in loon and I'll cut your Jacobs off "

jca111 says...
10:20am Thu 2 Sep 10

Yet again only half the story reported, and every one jumping up and down saying "its gonna be a disaster"! The NS is beginning to sound like the Daily Mail.

Radio 4 covered this story a week or so ago.

Only those patients who were already granted leave will be fitted. One of the purposes of this medium-secure unit is to help people re-integrate into society, so this GPS systems is and EXTRA layer of security, not just a device that lets half the patients out and the hospital not worry about them.

All you people saying its going to be a disaster - what do you propose? You cannot lock up every medium risk patient for ever - for a start it would be cost too much.

So come on all you doubters - what's your idea?

I think this is an excellent idea.

Locked and Loaded says...
12:22pm Thu 2 Sep 10

jca111, Bromley its not the medium risk patients that worry anyone, its the high risk ones. It wasn't that long ago the NS reported a 300 lb murdress on the loose after a shopping expedition, and she had only served a couple of years. These liberal left wing do gooders think they can rehabilitate everyone. How about they let them loose and you have them around your place for tofu and lentils, then you and Red Revolver can sing Kumbaya with them while all holding hands.

jca111 says...
12:44pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Locked and Loaded wrote:
jca111, Bromley its not the medium risk patients that worry anyone, its the high risk ones. It wasn't that long ago the NS reported a 300 lb murdress on the loose after a shopping expedition, and she had only served a couple of years. These liberal left wing do gooders think they can rehabilitate everyone. How about they let them loose and you have them around your place for tofu and lentils, then you and Red Revolver can sing Kumbaya with them while all holding hands.
Gosh - you are full of clichés aren't you. FYI I am not left wing/liberal and love read meat - and think lentils stink - literally.

So try coming out with a proper counter argument, and not just clichéd rubbish insults that you read elsewhere.

jca111 says...
12:45pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Also - your quote about the large woman. She would have been found INSTANTLY with this technology!

Locked and Loaded says...
7:01pm Thu 2 Sep 10

jca111, Bromley you honestly believe that these people wont remove the 'tag' when they abscond. Really ?
So you dont eat lentils, hows about the tofu ? Ohh sorry I must of read that somewhere else, do tell me where please.
Kumbaya, kumbaya etc. :)

jca111 says...
8:56pm Thu 2 Sep 10

But this is an extra layer of security. If they remove it an alarm will be triggered, immediately notifying the hospital or police. These people would have, and currently are, released at times into the world as part of their rehabilitation. No extra people are being released.

So why are you so anti it?

Also why the childish insults? It gains you no weight in the debate, it just makes it appear that you have no proper counter argument?

Locked and Loaded says...
10:13pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Yes it is an extra layer of security for some 'patients', but what about the ones who really want to do the off. Can you see them taking off the tag and waiting around while plod decides to turn up. If and when !! Listen if a 300lb whale can run away from a 'minder' while out on a shopping trip have you really any faith in the staff responding to an alarm on a tag. I'm not sure they even work like that. More like if tampered with when inspected they will know its been tampered with.
Now come along all together now, Kumbaya, Kumbaya. Now look you even got me singing the f'in choone. :)

Make Life says...
8:17am Fri 3 Sep 10

JCA111, Locked does make a valid point. All they need to do it cut and run and by the time the alarm is raised, Police are called, location of tracker found, Police going to tracker location you are looking at 10 minutes and you make run a long way in 10 minutes. Im all for the people who need the release to get back into society but unless you handcuff them to their carer then they will escape if they want to.

porkpie says...
1:29pm Fri 3 Sep 10

What about schizophrenic, they will need more than one.

daveydavey says...
6:10pm Fri 3 Sep 10

They are very easy to remove without triggering the alarm.
These tags work the same as the tags used by the courts to enforce home detention.
The tags look like a wristwatch with a grey rubberised plastic strap and are linked to a control box that is placed in the home of the detainee.
Although these ones give GPS data, they can only report as to the tags location.
Using a hair dryer or better still a paint stripper you can heat the strap which allows it to stretch slightly, allowing you to slip it of your ankle rendering the device useless as a means of knowing the persons location.

porkpie says...
12:52pm Mon 6 Sep 10

daveydavey wrote:
They are very easy to remove without triggering the alarm.
These tags work the same as the tags used by the courts to enforce home detention.
The tags look like a wristwatch with a grey rubberised plastic strap and are linked to a control box that is placed in the home of the detainee.
Although these ones give GPS data, they can only report as to the tags location.
Using a hair dryer or better still a paint stripper you can heat the strap which allows it to stretch slightly, allowing you to slip it of your ankle rendering the device useless as a means of knowing the persons location.
Well done for telling everyone. Must be great being you !


Professor Tom Fahy is the clinical director of forensic services at SLaM Professor Tom Fahy is the clinical director of forensic services at SLaM

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