Downham fox attack: First pictures of baby Denny Dolan

News Shopper: Denny Dolan is said to be recovering well after a four hour operation Denny Dolan is said to be recovering well after a four hour operation

THIS is the first picture of Denny Dolan, the one month old baby who was reportedly attacked by a fox in his Downham home, ripping off one of his fingers.

His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom.

The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him.

Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened.

She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.

“She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him.

“His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched.

“He was in the operating theatre for about four hours.

“When the surgeons finished they said there was a 70 percent chance he would be able to use his hand again.

“It was so traumatic.

“His family are devastated. I spoke to my brother Paul at the hospital, but he couldn't even talk.

"Denny's lovely.

“He was a perfect baby.

Hayley and my brother were so happy with them.

“Hayley's devastated. She's just a mum who loves her kids and that's all I can say."

Denny is now said to be making a good recovery at Evelina Children’s Hospital, next door to St Thomas’s Hospital in Westminster.

Khadine Peters, 36, who lives next door, said: "I wasn't there at the time, I was walking home down the street when I saw the ambulance outside the house.

"I spoke to the mum and she told me a fox had attacked her baby.

“It was really bad, I'm so scared now - I definitely won't leave my back door open again.

"Something needs to be done about all these foxes roaming freely around all these homes.

"I always see foxes in the street or in my garden.

"They're disgusting, they're not cute pets, they're vermin. The council should get rid of them."

A Met Police spokesman said: "We were called at 4.38pm on Wednesday (February 6) by staff at St Thomas's Hospital to reports a baby boy who had been admitted to hospital after being attacked by a fox.

"Police attended to find a four-week-old baby with a hand injury.

"The baby was admitted to hospital after the attack at its home address.

"Our inquiries are continuing."

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9:05am Mon 11 Feb 13

Eagles_Man says...

"Our inquiries are continuing."

And so they should, if you know what I mean.

Pleased the little lad's recovering though.
"Our inquiries are continuing." And so they should, if you know what I mean. Pleased the little lad's recovering though. Eagles_Man

9:21am Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Someone is getting their facts wrong somewhere..unless I'm reading this wrong? (1) So the Mum goes upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom. (2) The fox apparently drags the baby out of his cot and onto the floor and continues to attack him. (3) Then the Aunt says; She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.”? If that baby had of been dragged down the stairs it would have serious head injuries surely! Either the newspapers are getting the story wrong or someone is definitely lying about what really happened!!!!
Someone is getting their facts wrong somewhere..unless I'm reading this wrong? (1) So the Mum goes upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom. (2) The fox apparently drags the baby out of his cot and onto the floor and continues to attack him. (3) Then the Aunt says; She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.”? If that baby had of been dragged down the stairs it would have serious head injuries surely! Either the newspapers are getting the story wrong or someone is definitely lying about what really happened!!!! Inspirationalady28

9:29am Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

So the Mum claims to have gone upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom, but the Aunt says that the Mum went upstairs but came running back down because she heard a noise and then saw a fox dragging the baby towards the back door.. So which is it, because that's what the Authorities will be asking?
So the Mum claims to have gone upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom, but the Aunt says that the Mum went upstairs but came running back down because she heard a noise and then saw a fox dragging the baby towards the back door.. So which is it, because that's what the Authorities will be asking? Inspirationalady28

9:59am Mon 11 Feb 13

zooloo says...

How the hell did the fox get in the house int he first place???
How the hell did the fox get in the house int he first place??? zooloo

10:00am Mon 11 Feb 13

JuliaM says...

"The council should get rid of them."

File this with "The council should have fixed my back door."

Why is it always 'the council' who has to do something, with these people?

More foxes and fewer benefit-dependent chavs and it'd be a better world...
"The council should get rid of them." File this with "The council should have fixed my back door." Why is it always 'the council' who has to do something, with these people? More foxes and fewer benefit-dependent chavs and it'd be a better world... JuliaM

10:01am Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

zooloo wrote:
How the hell did the fox get in the house int he first place???
Well, assuming it was fox...by leaving the faulty back door ajar!!
[quote][p][bold]zooloo[/bold] wrote: How the hell did the fox get in the house int he first place???[/p][/quote]Well, assuming it was fox...by leaving the faulty back door ajar!! Inspirationalady28

10:09am Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

It amazes me why any fox would choose to live in a place like that...they only hunt for food (usually at night)! I doubt if there's much food wastage going around that area, that's probably why a bin collection every fortnight is appropriate..
It amazes me why any fox would choose to live in a place like that...they only hunt for food (usually at night)! I doubt if there's much food wastage going around that area, that's probably why a bin collection every fortnight is appropriate.. Inspirationalady28

10:46am Mon 11 Feb 13

Eagles_Man says...

Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'? Eagles_Man

11:11am Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved.
And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin. banjo8

11:23am Mon 11 Feb 13

Eagles_Man says...

banjo8 wrote:
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved.
And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
A bit harsh. Cut their benefits maybe, force them to get a job, but actually *culling* chavs is a bit OTT if you ask me.
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.[/p][/quote]A bit harsh. Cut their benefits maybe, force them to get a job, but actually *culling* chavs is a bit OTT if you ask me. Eagles_Man

12:09pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
[quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened? Inspirationalady28

12:16pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
So says Lou who got lots of comments deleted and wanted posters banned.

The hypocrisy of some people.

Oh sorry I forgot you aint Lou lou.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]So says Lou who got lots of comments deleted and wanted posters banned. The hypocrisy of some people. Oh sorry I forgot you aint Lou lou. Gypo.Joe

12:20pm Mon 11 Feb 13

PaulErith says...

banjo8 wrote:
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures.
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.[/p][/quote]We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures. PaulErith

12:30pm Mon 11 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012. the wall

12:36pm Mon 11 Feb 13

bnorther says...

the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing.

NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about.

There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.[/p][/quote]Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing. NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about. There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal. bnorther

12:37pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Eagles_Man says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Calm down dear. I was referring to the possibility that the next major development in the story will come from the police.

When people get charged the media have to be careful not to prejudice the legal process.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Calm down dear. I was referring to the possibility that the next major development in the story will come from the police. When people get charged the media have to be careful not to prejudice the legal process. Eagles_Man

12:51pm Mon 11 Feb 13

dee2009 says...

Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx
Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx dee2009

1:00pm Mon 11 Feb 13

joertmclark says...

PaulErith wrote:
banjo8 wrote:
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures.
Here here Paul. I'm another one who also feeds foxes.
Banjo has some sort of obligation in life to cull all foxes.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.[/p][/quote]We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures.[/p][/quote]Here here Paul. I'm another one who also feeds foxes. Banjo has some sort of obligation in life to cull all foxes. joertmclark

1:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
Odds on - I'm amazed it's lasted this long
[quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]Odds on - I'm amazed it's lasted this long reasonable75

1:31pm Mon 11 Feb 13

the wall says...

dee2009 wrote:
Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx
Translation anyone?
[quote][p][bold]dee2009[/bold] wrote: Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx[/p][/quote]Translation anyone? the wall

2:00pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing.

NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about.

There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.
I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!!
[quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.[/p][/quote]Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing. NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about. There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.[/p][/quote]I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!! Inspirationalady28

2:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

PaulErith wrote:
banjo8 wrote:
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures.
I do feel sorry for these poor animals..left alone to Mother Nature they only do from birth what's in their bloodline..what excuses have the human population got for their actions when it comes down to scavenging!!?
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.[/p][/quote]We continue to build and build, so the amount of countryside diminishes. Obviously this will lead to more foxes living in the city. They have the right to live somewhere. I'll happily feed the foxes as I think they're nice creatures.[/p][/quote]I do feel sorry for these poor animals..left alone to Mother Nature they only do from birth what's in their bloodline..what excuses have the human population got for their actions when it comes down to scavenging!!? Inspirationalady28

2:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing.

NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about.

There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.
I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!!
That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.[/p][/quote]Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing. NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about. There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.[/p][/quote]I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!![/p][/quote]That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth. the wall

2:11pm Mon 11 Feb 13

old nick says...

I have foxes living in my garden,yes I feed them,they have been there for years.2 of them became so tame we could hand feed them,they played with our cats and came indoors,no attacks or damage,loved to have their head scratched.dont try to tame them now but they know us and dont run off.I wonder if these people have a DOG,know what I mean.
I have foxes living in my garden,yes I feed them,they have been there for years.2 of them became so tame we could hand feed them,they played with our cats and came indoors,no attacks or damage,loved to have their head scratched.dont try to tame them now but they know us and dont run off.I wonder if these people have a DOG,know what I mean. old nick

2:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing.

NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about.

There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.
I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!!
That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth.
...and so does NS!! Would you like me to prove it, because I still have it ALL logged.. and they probably have too!?
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.[/p][/quote]Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing. NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about. There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.[/p][/quote]I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!![/p][/quote]That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth.[/p][/quote]...and so does NS!! Would you like me to prove it, because I still have it ALL logged.. and they probably have too!? Inspirationalady28

2:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

the wall wrote:
dee2009 wrote:
Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx
Translation anyone?
YES..hurt by SOMETHING!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dee2009[/bold] wrote: Hmmmm forget the comment there a poor little who has been HURT by SOME THING,poor little boy,get well soon little manxx[/p][/quote]Translation anyone?[/p][/quote]YES..hurt by SOMETHING! Inspirationalady28

2:25pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

old nick wrote:
I have foxes living in my garden,yes I feed them,they have been there for years.2 of them became so tame we could hand feed them,they played with our cats and came indoors,no attacks or damage,loved to have their head scratched.dont try to tame them now but they know us and dont run off.I wonder if these people have a DOG,know what I mean.
You're are very brave to say about the possibility of a dog being involved. I thought that from the beginning too, but it does make you wonder when all the reports seem to differ?
[quote][p][bold]old nick[/bold] wrote: I have foxes living in my garden,yes I feed them,they have been there for years.2 of them became so tame we could hand feed them,they played with our cats and came indoors,no attacks or damage,loved to have their head scratched.dont try to tame them now but they know us and dont run off.I wonder if these people have a DOG,know what I mean.[/p][/quote]You're are very brave to say about the possibility of a dog being involved. I thought that from the beginning too, but it does make you wonder when all the reports seem to differ? Inspirationalady28

2:28pm Mon 11 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
bnorther wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Eagles_Man wrote:
Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?
What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?
Are you having a laugh ?

You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like.

You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.
Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing.

NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about.

There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.
I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!!
That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth.
...and so does NS!! Would you like me to prove it, because I still have it ALL logged.. and they probably have too!?
What are you shouting for?

And again you are trying to make this news report and comments section about you.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bnorther[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: Anyone running a book on how long before the NS has to close the comments section for (ahem) 'legal reasons'?[/p][/quote]What happens to "Freedom of Speech"? If they do close down the comments section it could it be because people are getting closer to the truth of what really happened?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh ? You're the one who not long ago was reporting anything you didn't like. You also said you don't use the internet much, but have have posted more in the last month than the whole of 2012.[/p][/quote]Freedom of Speech and the right for NewsShopper to do what they want with their property (this website) are not the same thing. NS will shut down comments usually when the story relates to someone being charged with a crime. This is to stop them, or a poster, being liable for contempt. They may also shut down comments when things get out of hand. They have a brand image to worry about. There is still freedom of speech. Setup your own website, and say what you want. But also be prepared to face any consequences if what you say is illegal.[/p][/quote]I quite agree.. When I had posters who were using inappropriate language and were only on here to insult or humiliate me or others then yes, I asked for comments to be removed. But when NS openly invite readers to leave comments it should be more of a debate, NOT singleing a person out because they don't share the same views as yourself and behaving inappropriately!![/p][/quote]That's your version of events, the rest of us know the truth.[/p][/quote]...and so does NS!! Would you like me to prove it, because I still have it ALL logged.. and they probably have too!?[/p][/quote]What are you shouting for? And again you are trying to make this news report and comments section about you. the wall

2:39pm Mon 11 Feb 13

KentFromKent says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Someone is getting their facts wrong somewhere..unless I'm reading this wrong? (1) So the Mum goes upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom. (2) The fox apparently drags the baby out of his cot and onto the floor and continues to attack him. (3) Then the Aunt says; She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.”? If that baby had of been dragged down the stairs it would have serious head injuries surely! Either the newspapers are getting the story wrong or someone is definitely lying about what really happened!!!!
The bedroom noise has no relation to where Denny was sleeping in his cot on the ground floor perhaps?

I presume he was in his cot in the living room, his Mum had popped upstairs, fox came in the back door etc.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Someone is getting their facts wrong somewhere..unless I'm reading this wrong? (1) So the Mum goes upstairs because she heard a noise coming from the bedroom. (2) The fox apparently drags the baby out of his cot and onto the floor and continues to attack him. (3) Then the Aunt says; She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.”? If that baby had of been dragged down the stairs it would have serious head injuries surely! Either the newspapers are getting the story wrong or someone is definitely lying about what really happened!!!![/p][/quote]The bedroom noise has no relation to where Denny was sleeping in his cot on the ground floor perhaps? I presume he was in his cot in the living room, his Mum had popped upstairs, fox came in the back door etc. KentFromKent

2:43pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others.
Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others. Inspirationalady28

2:45pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Louise Richardson says...

I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon..
I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon.. Louise Richardson

2:50pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others.
Lou there's no need to apologise to me.

You make a fool of yourself, end of story.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others.[/p][/quote]Lou there's no need to apologise to me. You make a fool of yourself, end of story. Gypo.Joe

3:08pm Mon 11 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others.
Really! Get over yourself!
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Please everyone, I wish to apologise to you and NS because some people on here who are trying to divert your attention away from the topic in hand to one of which is trying (yet again) to belittle me and others.[/p][/quote]Really! Get over yourself! the wall

3:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Louise Richardson wrote:
I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon..
Thank you! At least you agree with the majority.. I too hope the little baby will gain full health again after this traumatic ordeal and I hope all Authorities won't be sent on a "wild fox chase"!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Louise Richardson[/bold] wrote: I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon..[/p][/quote]Thank you! At least you agree with the majority.. I too hope the little baby will gain full health again after this traumatic ordeal and I hope all Authorities won't be sent on a "wild fox chase"!!!! Inspirationalady28

3:22pm Mon 11 Feb 13

treesrgreen says...

banjo8 wrote:
Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved.
And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.
Brilliant. Well said EaglesMan but some chavs are more dangerous than these supposed killer foxes :-)
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Keep the number down - trap them, kill them - problem solved. And maybe prosecute the silly tart down my road who keep cooking tasty titbits and leaving them out for the nasty vermin.[/p][/quote]Brilliant. Well said EaglesMan but some chavs are more dangerous than these supposed killer foxes :-) treesrgreen

3:28pm Mon 11 Feb 13

junie says...

omg what a sad lot
omg what a sad lot junie

3:37pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

Louise Richardson wrote:
I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon..
Some reports suggest the fox got in through the back door of the home which was said to be broken.

But Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013.
"We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date."

And this seems to be confirmed by picture on TV and in the nationals that show all (fairly new) doors & windows in good condition. So how did it get in?”
[quote][p][bold]Louise Richardson[/bold] wrote: I think this story is bullsh*t. None of it adds up. Their back door lock was broken "for ages" and Lewisham council refused to fix it. Why did they refuse to fix it? How did the fox get in? Did they leave the door open then, with an unattended baby in another room? Or we've tamed them so much they use handles nowadays?!  What sort of people would not at least try and fix the lock themselves, with a new baby in the house, leaving it open for all and sundry to come in?! Especially in Downham (NOT Bromley!) And, now the family have apparently been moved to different accommodation?! Seriously?!! I wouldn't mind betting there was a jealous family dog involved, not a fox, and this is all down to their irresponsibility and they're covering something up. The police won't comment as to whether or not they had a dog and enquiries are still ongoing. Hope the little boy gets well soon..[/p][/quote]Some reports suggest the fox got in through the back door of the home which was said to be broken. But Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013. "We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date." And this seems to be confirmed by picture on TV and in the nationals that show all (fairly new) doors & windows in good condition. So how did it get in?” reasonable75

3:46pm Mon 11 Feb 13

KentFromKent says...

Maybe the fox was already living there and panicked when he couldn't get out after the new doors and windows were fitted!
Maybe the fox was already living there and panicked when he couldn't get out after the new doors and windows were fitted! KentFromKent

3:52pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

KentFromKent wrote:
Maybe the fox was already living there and panicked when he couldn't get out after the new doors and windows were fitted!
...so now Mr Foxy decides to use the baby as a battering ram!?
[quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: Maybe the fox was already living there and panicked when he couldn't get out after the new doors and windows were fitted![/p][/quote]...so now Mr Foxy decides to use the baby as a battering ram!? Inspirationalady28

3:58pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap

But can't see one in the photo
Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap But can't see one in the photo reasonable75

4:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reasonable75 wrote:
Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap

But can't see one in the photo
I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed!
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap But can't see one in the photo[/p][/quote]I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed! Inspirationalady28

4:12pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

personally it all seems a bit strange! on the news it showed a video WHICH is also stated was 10 yrs old, of a fox in a house!
Sorry but with a 4 week old baby would you not make sure especially in this cold weather that doors windows were closed! on the news it said the fox had the babys hand in its mouth and bit of finger, lucky thne that the mother managed to get the finger from the fox's mouth and save it. Also is there not a hospital much closer to bromley or where ever it was than st thomas's
Glad the baby is doing well - poor thing - what an ordeal. But as said story does not all add up! news also mentioned door was damaged and could not be closed, meaning anyone or anything could get in the house at any time - would you not secure the door with a new born baby in the house especially with this cold nasty weather we have had
personally it all seems a bit strange! on the news it showed a video WHICH is also stated was 10 yrs old, of a fox in a house! Sorry but with a 4 week old baby would you not make sure especially in this cold weather that doors windows were closed! on the news it said the fox had the babys hand in its mouth and bit of finger, lucky thne that the mother managed to get the finger from the fox's mouth and save it. Also is there not a hospital much closer to bromley or where ever it was than st thomas's Glad the baby is doing well - poor thing - what an ordeal. But as said story does not all add up! news also mentioned door was damaged and could not be closed, meaning anyone or anything could get in the house at any time - would you not secure the door with a new born baby in the house especially with this cold nasty weather we have had reptiles

4:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reptiles wrote:
personally it all seems a bit strange! on the news it showed a video WHICH is also stated was 10 yrs old, of a fox in a house!
Sorry but with a 4 week old baby would you not make sure especially in this cold weather that doors windows were closed! on the news it said the fox had the babys hand in its mouth and bit of finger, lucky thne that the mother managed to get the finger from the fox's mouth and save it. Also is there not a hospital much closer to bromley or where ever it was than st thomas's
Glad the baby is doing well - poor thing - what an ordeal. But as said story does not all add up! news also mentioned door was damaged and could not be closed, meaning anyone or anything could get in the house at any time - would you not secure the door with a new born baby in the house especially with this cold nasty weather we have had
The nearest hospital is Lewisham which is just down the road from Downham..but maybe because of the baby's horrific injuries it was decided to take him to a more specialised hospital.
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: personally it all seems a bit strange! on the news it showed a video WHICH is also stated was 10 yrs old, of a fox in a house! Sorry but with a 4 week old baby would you not make sure especially in this cold weather that doors windows were closed! on the news it said the fox had the babys hand in its mouth and bit of finger, lucky thne that the mother managed to get the finger from the fox's mouth and save it. Also is there not a hospital much closer to bromley or where ever it was than st thomas's Glad the baby is doing well - poor thing - what an ordeal. But as said story does not all add up! news also mentioned door was damaged and could not be closed, meaning anyone or anything could get in the house at any time - would you not secure the door with a new born baby in the house especially with this cold nasty weather we have had[/p][/quote]The nearest hospital is Lewisham which is just down the road from Downham..but maybe because of the baby's horrific injuries it was decided to take him to a more specialised hospital. Inspirationalady28

4:58pm Mon 11 Feb 13

bnorther says...

The hospital thing is not strange. The baby would be taken to the most suitable hospital for its injuries. This may not be, and often isn't, the closest.
The hospital thing is not strange. The baby would be taken to the most suitable hospital for its injuries. This may not be, and often isn't, the closest. bnorther

5:30pm Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

What's happened to the fox?
What's happened to the fox? banjo8

5:42pm Mon 11 Feb 13

pastymuncher008 says...

Hopefully the little boy will be well. Hopefully the police will get to the truth here.
What happened to their dog?
Hopefully the little boy will be well. Hopefully the police will get to the truth here. What happened to their dog? pastymuncher008

5:43pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Who's dog?
Who's dog? Marty1979

5:51pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

no mention of any dog is any story ive seen? do thy have a dog then - what type? interesting if they do and its never been mentioned
no mention of any dog is any story ive seen? do thy have a dog then - what type? interesting if they do and its never been mentioned reptiles

5:56pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

People, myself included are thinking along the lines that it's quite possible a dog may be involved and not a fox!!
People, myself included are thinking along the lines that it's quite possible a dog may be involved and not a fox!! Inspirationalady28

6:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

well we do know that Dogs attack and far more dogs than foxes attack, foxes tend to be scared of humans as far as i am aware, and IF they do have a dog it could be jealous of baby getting all attention - it has happened.
I also heard on the tv news that the couple fled the house leaving things behind, now was that due to being taken via ambulance to hospital or since baby has had surgery?? seems so many stories all variants of each other.
Will we ever find out exactly what happened and how the poor baby is doing??
well we do know that Dogs attack and far more dogs than foxes attack, foxes tend to be scared of humans as far as i am aware, and IF they do have a dog it could be jealous of baby getting all attention - it has happened. I also heard on the tv news that the couple fled the house leaving things behind, now was that due to being taken via ambulance to hospital or since baby has had surgery?? seems so many stories all variants of each other. Will we ever find out exactly what happened and how the poor baby is doing?? reptiles

6:05pm Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

I heard the baby was out of intensive care and doing well, still don't know what happened to the fox though.
I heard the baby was out of intensive care and doing well, still don't know what happened to the fox though. banjo8

6:07pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Oldchap says...

reptiles wrote:
no mention of any dog is any story ive seen? do thy have a dog then - what type? interesting if they do and its never been mentioned
It might be because one of the neighbours interviewed on TV said he wondered why "the dog" didn't bark - but he didn't say who's dog
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: no mention of any dog is any story ive seen? do thy have a dog then - what type? interesting if they do and its never been mentioned[/p][/quote]It might be because one of the neighbours interviewed on TV said he wondered why "the dog" didn't bark - but he didn't say who's dog Oldchap

6:07pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.
Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth. Inspirationalady28

6:23pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.
agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter.
From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.[/p][/quote]agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter. From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal reptiles

6:29pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

just reading the story above again and the mother as alerted by hearing a " bang" not alerted by hearing the baby scream - how odd would the baby not be screaming before it got dragged out of cot? did mother not hear that before she went upstairs?
seems the story has a few "holes" the more you read it
"she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom. " but she had just gone upstairs when she heard the bang and came running down. so was the babys bedroom downstairs?? a bit confused.com
just reading the story above again and the mother as alerted by hearing a " bang" not alerted by hearing the baby scream - how odd would the baby not be screaming before it got dragged out of cot? did mother not hear that before she went upstairs? seems the story has a few "holes" the more you read it "she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom. " but she had just gone upstairs when she heard the bang and came running down. so was the babys bedroom downstairs?? a bit confused.com reptiles

6:59pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
reasonable75 wrote:
Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap

But can't see one in the photo
I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed!
Not a fox or dog ?

Whatever next, an escaped lion?

A wolf?

The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost?
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap But can't see one in the photo[/p][/quote]I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed![/p][/quote]Not a fox or dog ? Whatever next, an escaped lion? A wolf? The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost? Marty1979

7:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reptiles wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.
agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter.
From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal
Good point! If it was any animal it would be covered in blood either from the baby or from any injuries it received during the attack.
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.[/p][/quote]agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter. From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal[/p][/quote]Good point! If it was any animal it would be covered in blood either from the baby or from any injuries it received during the attack. Inspirationalady28

7:15pm Mon 11 Feb 13

reptiles says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
reptiles wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.
agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter.
From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal
Good point! If it was any animal it would be covered in blood either from the baby or from any injuries it received during the attack.
exactly!
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Maybe there's more to this story..I do think that seeing they've put it in every newspaper and on the National Tv/Radios, the public deserve to be told the truth.[/p][/quote]agreed! we need to know IF it was actually a fox, dog or anything else for that matter. From what i read above the mother apparently kicked the fox " She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. "- so it would be harmed somewhere hiding??? or if it was a dog even and it was kicked the dog would be hiding, so why are rspca or someone not looking for the injured animal[/p][/quote]Good point! If it was any animal it would be covered in blood either from the baby or from any injuries it received during the attack.[/p][/quote]exactly! reptiles

7:16pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
reasonable75 wrote:
Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap

But can't see one in the photo
I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed!
Not a fox or dog ?

Whatever next, an escaped lion?

A wolf?

The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost?
I wish I knew...
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap But can't see one in the photo[/p][/quote]I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed![/p][/quote]Not a fox or dog ? Whatever next, an escaped lion? A wolf? The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost?[/p][/quote]I wish I knew... Inspirationalady28

7:35pm Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

Beast of Bexley maybe, haven't heard about that for a while!
Beast of Bexley maybe, haven't heard about that for a while! banjo8

7:38pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Donna_T says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Marty1979 wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
reasonable75 wrote:
Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap

But can't see one in the photo
I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed!
Not a fox or dog ?

Whatever next, an escaped lion?

A wolf?

The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost?
I wish I knew...
I thought you being some kind of woman would know better than all this petty trolling.

DonnaTxx
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: Gets stranger all the time, heard on radio it's now being claimed fox got in through a cat flap But can't see one in the photo[/p][/quote]I heard that it may not even be a fox or dog... Very strange indeed![/p][/quote]Not a fox or dog ? Whatever next, an escaped lion? A wolf? The beast of Bodmin got a bit lost?[/p][/quote]I wish I knew...[/p][/quote]I thought you being some kind of woman would know better than all this petty trolling. DonnaTxx Donna_T

7:41pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Oldchap says...

There are more twists to this than a corkscrew!

In the Evening Standard (stating it happened in Bromley) there's another quote from the aunt that "the fox was shaking the baby by his hand in its teeth and hitting him off the door frame. There was blood everywhere"

This article also reveals the baby has a black eye from where "the animal had hit him against a door frame"


But initial stories were that the fox was dragging the baby out of the house
There are more twists to this than a corkscrew! In the Evening Standard (stating it happened in Bromley) there's another quote from the aunt that "the fox was shaking the baby by his hand in its teeth and hitting him off the door frame. There was blood everywhere" This article also reveals the baby has a black eye from where "the animal had hit him against a door frame" But initial stories were that the fox was dragging the baby out of the house Oldchap

7:50pm Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

It definitely happened in Lewisham. For some reason the emergency services registered it as Bromley and then Bromley councillors got on the band wagon to get their faces in the media. Ironocally saying, make it clear this happened in Lewisham - "so why are you commenting then?"
It definitely happened in Lewisham. For some reason the emergency services registered it as Bromley and then Bromley councillors got on the band wagon to get their faces in the media. Ironocally saying, make it clear this happened in Lewisham - "so why are you commenting then?" banjo8

8:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Oldchap wrote:
There are more twists to this than a corkscrew!

In the Evening Standard (stating it happened in Bromley) there's another quote from the aunt that "the fox was shaking the baby by his hand in its teeth and hitting him off the door frame. There was blood everywhere"

This article also reveals the baby has a black eye from where "the animal had hit him against a door frame"


But initial stories were that the fox was dragging the baby out of the house
Saw that on
http://www.standard.
co.uk/news/london/fo
x-cull-could-go-ahea
d-after-babys-finger
-is-bitten-off-84893
11.html

Parents have put photos of injuries on Facebook

And Boris is demanding a cull
[quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: There are more twists to this than a corkscrew! In the Evening Standard (stating it happened in Bromley) there's another quote from the aunt that "the fox was shaking the baby by his hand in its teeth and hitting him off the door frame. There was blood everywhere" This article also reveals the baby has a black eye from where "the animal had hit him against a door frame" But initial stories were that the fox was dragging the baby out of the house[/p][/quote]Saw that on http://www.standard. co.uk/news/london/fo x-cull-could-go-ahea d-after-babys-finger -is-bitten-off-84893 11.html Parents have put photos of injuries on Facebook And Boris is demanding a cull Marty1979

9:40pm Mon 11 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

It doesn't matter who they are or what background they have, this is a nasty attack by a wild animal and you don't expect that in your own home.
It doesn't matter who they are or what background they have, this is a nasty attack by a wild animal and you don't expect that in your own home. banjo8

9:49pm Mon 11 Feb 13

bizzymum says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Freedom of speech is one thing, but threatening physical violence even a death threat is completely different
No worries Marty1979 - my comment will be removed I'm sure.

At the end of the day this is a news story about a poor injured baby - I am so totally bored by people trolling on here about whether there is some major cover up.

Maybe, just maybe there wasn't. Get well soon Denny. X
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: Freedom of speech is one thing, but threatening physical violence even a death threat is completely different[/p][/quote]No worries Marty1979 - my comment will be removed I'm sure. At the end of the day this is a news story about a poor injured baby - I am so totally bored by people trolling on here about whether there is some major cover up. Maybe, just maybe there wasn't. Get well soon Denny. X bizzymum

10:16pm Mon 11 Feb 13

bizzymum says...

Good night all! x
Good night all! x bizzymum

1:33am Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

This story was updated just before midnight and has changed yet again! It's now being reported that the baby's Mother was upstairs at the time, she hears the baby's screams and then a thud..she rushes down the stairs and into the sitting room to see a male fox pulling the baby off the sofa then dragging him by his ring finger towards the opened back door. She runs towards the fox but not before it hisses at her through its teeth. She then starts to kick and wrestle with the fox who eventually makes its way out, through the opened back door leaving a blood splattered sitting room in the process! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought parents of new-borns were advised not to leave a baby on a sofa, let alone unattended because of that cot death syndrome? I wish someone would get the story correct!!
This story was updated just before midnight and has changed yet again! It's now being reported that the baby's Mother was upstairs at the time, she hears the baby's screams and then a thud..she rushes down the stairs and into the sitting room to see a male fox pulling the baby off the sofa then dragging him by his ring finger towards the opened back door. She runs towards the fox but not before it hisses at her through its teeth. She then starts to kick and wrestle with the fox who eventually makes its way out, through the opened back door leaving a blood splattered sitting room in the process! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought parents of new-borns were advised not to leave a baby on a sofa, let alone unattended because of that cot death syndrome? I wish someone would get the story correct!! Inspirationalady28

5:21am Tue 12 Feb 13

JuliaM says...

Upstairs, downstairs... the first rule of this is surely 'Get your story synchronised'?
Upstairs, downstairs... the first rule of this is surely 'Get your story synchronised'? JuliaM

7:31am Tue 12 Feb 13

Oldchap says...

And what happened to the part where it was shaking the baby & smashing the baby's head against the door frame?
And what happened to the part where it was shaking the baby & smashing the baby's head against the door frame? Oldchap

8:17am Tue 12 Feb 13

Beckenhamlady says...

JuliaM wrote:
"The council should get rid of them." File this with "The council should have fixed my back door." Why is it always 'the council' who has to do something, with these people? More foxes and fewer benefit-dependent chavs and it'd be a better world...
Totally Agree.
[quote][p][bold]JuliaM[/bold] wrote: "The council should get rid of them." File this with "The council should have fixed my back door." Why is it always 'the council' who has to do something, with these people? More foxes and fewer benefit-dependent chavs and it'd be a better world...[/p][/quote]Totally Agree. Beckenhamlady

8:39am Tue 12 Feb 13

BeckenhamCloud9 says...

Seems the account of what happened changes several times a day.

Still unsure how the fox actually got in - family claimed the door was broken (housing association say it was fixed over a week ago), but even if there was a problem surely the family could have secured it, why would they leave it open so anyone could get in?

First the baby is upstairs with the mother downstairs, then baby downstairs & mother upstairs.

Fox pulled baby onto floor (she heard thud) so wouldn't there have been injuries?

Fox was smashing babys head against door (which caused the blacy eye)

Finger was bitten off & babys arm down foxes throat - so was the finger dropped on the floor?

Mother either wrestled or kicked the fox


If this was a TV show people would say it was too far fetched
Seems the account of what happened changes several times a day. Still unsure how the fox actually got in - family claimed the door was broken (housing association say it was fixed over a week ago), but even if there was a problem surely the family could have secured it, why would they leave it open so anyone could get in? First the baby is upstairs with the mother downstairs, then baby downstairs & mother upstairs. Fox pulled baby onto floor (she heard thud) so wouldn't there have been injuries? Fox was smashing babys head against door (which caused the blacy eye) Finger was bitten off & babys arm down foxes throat - so was the finger dropped on the floor? Mother either wrestled or kicked the fox If this was a TV show people would say it was too far fetched BeckenhamCloud9

8:40am Tue 12 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything.
Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything. banjo8

8:51am Tue 12 Feb 13

patwoodhouse says...

“Hayley's devastated. She's just a mum who loves her kids and that's all I can say."

Hmmm - but she failed to safeguard a newborn by not bothering to fix a door - and even now instead of fixing that door she expects the Council to rehome her family presumably bearing none of the financial cost herself. And all the while, blaming the authorities, the fox, in fact anyone but herself.

I hope in time Denny makes a full recovery and that his mother learns to take responsibility for her own failings.
“Hayley's devastated. She's just a mum who loves her kids and that's all I can say." Hmmm - but she failed to safeguard a newborn by not bothering to fix a door - and even now instead of fixing that door she expects the Council to rehome her family presumably bearing none of the financial cost herself. And all the while, blaming the authorities, the fox, in fact anyone but herself. I hope in time Denny makes a full recovery and that his mother learns to take responsibility for her own failings. patwoodhouse

9:21am Tue 12 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

banjo8 wrote:
Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything.
Problem most have is how the story keeps changing - I'm sure the baby was attacked by a fox, but the parents could have taken more precautions to prevent it getting in to the house

And it seems they are making it appear more dramatic - the fox swinging the baby by the arm and smashing it against the door etc
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything.[/p][/quote]Problem most have is how the story keeps changing - I'm sure the baby was attacked by a fox, but the parents could have taken more precautions to prevent it getting in to the house And it seems they are making it appear more dramatic - the fox swinging the baby by the arm and smashing it against the door etc reasonable75

10:01am Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

banjo8 wrote:
Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything.
Yes, you're right..some of us never believe "anything" as you so put it...I would believe "something" when it begins to make some sense and not just "anything" that is reported and then changed on a twice daily basis!
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Some of you are just untrusting, uncompassionate people who never believe anything.[/p][/quote]Yes, you're right..some of us never believe "anything" as you so put it...I would believe "something" when it begins to make some sense and not just "anything" that is reported and then changed on a twice daily basis! Inspirationalady28

10:16am Tue 12 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

If anything it is the media's fault. I bet their story has stayed much the same, but every newspaper and TV station is just looking to add more hype to the story to make themselves look good.
If anything it is the media's fault. I bet their story has stayed much the same, but every newspaper and TV station is just looking to add more hype to the story to make themselves look good. banjo8

10:27am Tue 12 Feb 13

Eagles_Man says...

What do we know for certain?

1. Baby gets taken to hospital with a severed finger.
2. Mother says it was a fox attack
3. Hospital calls police.

I suspect it's pointless us speculating further for now, let's wait and see what the Old Bill come up with.
What do we know for certain? 1. Baby gets taken to hospital with a severed finger. 2. Mother says it was a fox attack 3. Hospital calls police. I suspect it's pointless us speculating further for now, let's wait and see what the Old Bill come up with. Eagles_Man

10:31am Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

I hope that very soon there will be some closure to this story. The Police are still carrying out their line of inquires so it could be some time yet before we know how this tragic incident came about. It's all well and good to play the "blame game" but someone human is partly responsible and one cannot put all the blame on a fox.
I hope that very soon there will be some closure to this story. The Police are still carrying out their line of inquires so it could be some time yet before we [the public] know how this tragic incident came about. It's all well and good to play the "blame game" but someone human is partly responsible and one cannot put all the blame on a fox. Inspirationalady28

12:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

dianaosman35 says...

Eagles_Man wrote:
"Our inquiries are continuing."

And so they should, if you know what I mean.

Pleased the little lad's recovering though.
There a far to many holes in this story, why was the back door open on a freezing cold day, er it was broken, why would the fox drop the finger on the floor? to the fox it is a meaty morsel and would have neen swallowed, some thing not right in my opinion, I suppose they will want to be rehoused now
[quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: "Our inquiries are continuing." And so they should, if you know what I mean. Pleased the little lad's recovering though.[/p][/quote]There a far to many holes in this story, why was the back door open on a freezing cold day, er it was broken, why would the fox drop the finger on the floor? to the fox it is a meaty morsel and would have neen swallowed, some thing not right in my opinion, I suppose they will want to be rehoused now dianaosman35

12:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

These may all be reasonable points, but in that case how did the finger become detached? You're not suggesting this was a price worth paying to get a new council house are you?
These may all be reasonable points, but in that case how did the finger become detached? You're not suggesting this was a price worth paying to get a new council house are you? banjo8

1:04pm Tue 12 Feb 13

KentFromKent says...

banjo8 wrote:
These may all be reasonable points, but in that case how did the finger become detached? You're not suggesting this was a price worth paying to get a new council house are you?
***CONSPIRACY THEORY OVERLOAD ALERT***

I blame Hitler (oh, we aren't at that stage of the proceedings just yet!)

Let's just wait and see what FACTS come out and draw conclusions from that.
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: These may all be reasonable points, but in that case how did the finger become detached? You're not suggesting this was a price worth paying to get a new council house are you?[/p][/quote]***CONSPIRACY THEORY OVERLOAD ALERT*** I blame Hitler (oh, we aren't at that stage of the proceedings just yet!) Let's just wait and see what FACTS come out and draw conclusions from that. KentFromKent

1:27pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the wall says...

Nothing false, abusive or malicious in my comment, so I don't know why it has been removed.

Funny how a certain poster can leave false, abusive or malicious commnets thou.
Nothing false, abusive or malicious in my comment, so I don't know why it has been removed. Funny how a certain poster can leave false, abusive or malicious commnets thou. the wall

1:52pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

It's reported that the baby is out of hospital now and has been reunited with his parents..now the Father is demanding a cull on foxes to prevent something like this happening to another child..? While that's very noble of him, we still haven't got any proof it was a fox! There's still the question about that alleged broken door etc' that needs to be addressed before anyone goes around killing wildlife unnecessarily...So now, when a pet dog does bite someone, who will the owner blame...a fox?
It's reported that the baby is out of hospital now and has been reunited with his parents..now the Father is demanding a cull on foxes to prevent something like this happening to another child..? While that's very noble of him, we still haven't got any proof it was a fox! There's still the question about that alleged broken door etc' that needs to be addressed before anyone goes around killing wildlife unnecessarily...So now, when a pet dog does bite someone, who will the owner blame...a fox? Inspirationalady28

1:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the wall says...

But someone told you it wasn't a fox or a dog, as I pointed out to you. However you seem to have forgotten that comment and reported mine for whatever reason?
But someone told you it wasn't a fox or a dog, as I pointed out to you. However you seem to have forgotten that comment and reported mine for whatever reason? the wall

2:06pm Tue 12 Feb 13

KentFromKent says...

Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth.


Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger.

‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth.
‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’
Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth. Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger. ‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth. ‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’ KentFromKent

2:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

#the wall; Nobody told me that at all..I said I'd heard that! It had been mentioned in various national news comments. Just because I quote something that I read/hear doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something!
#the wall; Nobody told me that at all..I said I'd heard that! It had been mentioned in various national news comments. Just because I quote something that I read/hear doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something! Inspirationalady28

2:15pm Tue 12 Feb 13

reptiles says...

yh i seem to have had a few comments removed. ones about the so called dog in particular! some say there was a dog involved. I really cant believe that the fox would have managed to let go of the finger and drop it if it had the whole of the babys arm in its mouth thrashing it about!
Of course maybe if the story was correct and didnt keep changing people wouldnt be making all the comments they are! but the media itsself seem to keep changing whats happened. Plus does the father really think that culling foxes ( say in his area) will stop this happening again - if it happened). story is very confusing with the door and whether it was open closed, broken etc. Weather has been horrid last few weeks and if your at home with a new born baby - ok 4 weeks then would you have the door open? or if its broken would you not get it fixed, would you not be more protective of your precious baby and make sure before you left it downstairs near a back door that the door was securly closed especially if you know there are foxes in the area and your worried, i am the man next door said he saw 25 foxes in the road later that night. with a new born baby a midwife would be calling every day for the 1st 4 weeks, would they not do something to get the broken door fixed?? if the door was left open due to being damaged as already said anything could get in fox, dog, cat burglar. But then on saying that in another story there was no broken door.. let hope the police and social services get to the bottom of this story - even just for the sake of that poor child who is going to be scared for life - thankfully he may not remember what happened, but will have the scare to prove it!
yh i seem to have had a few comments removed. ones about the so called dog in particular! some say there was a dog involved. I really cant believe that the fox would have managed to let go of the finger and drop it if it had the whole of the babys arm in its mouth thrashing it about! Of course maybe if the story was correct and didnt keep changing people wouldnt be making all the comments they are! but the media itsself seem to keep changing whats happened. Plus does the father really think that culling foxes ( say in his area) will stop this happening again - if it happened). story is very confusing with the door and whether it was open closed, broken etc. Weather has been horrid last few weeks and if your at home with a new born baby - ok 4 weeks then would you have the door open? or if its broken would you not get it fixed, would you not be more protective of your precious baby and make sure before you left it downstairs near a back door that the door was securly closed especially if you know there are foxes in the area and your worried, i am the man next door said he saw 25 foxes in the road later that night. with a new born baby a midwife would be calling every day for the 1st 4 weeks, would they not do something to get the broken door fixed?? if the door was left open due to being damaged as already said anything could get in fox, dog, cat burglar. But then on saying that in another story there was no broken door.. let hope the police and social services get to the bottom of this story - even just for the sake of that poor child who is going to be scared for life - thankfully he may not remember what happened, but will have the scare to prove it! reptiles

2:22pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reptiles wrote:
yh i seem to have had a few comments removed. ones about the so called dog in particular! some say there was a dog involved. I really cant believe that the fox would have managed to let go of the finger and drop it if it had the whole of the babys arm in its mouth thrashing it about!
Of course maybe if the story was correct and didnt keep changing people wouldnt be making all the comments they are! but the media itsself seem to keep changing whats happened. Plus does the father really think that culling foxes ( say in his area) will stop this happening again - if it happened). story is very confusing with the door and whether it was open closed, broken etc. Weather has been horrid last few weeks and if your at home with a new born baby - ok 4 weeks then would you have the door open? or if its broken would you not get it fixed, would you not be more protective of your precious baby and make sure before you left it downstairs near a back door that the door was securly closed especially if you know there are foxes in the area and your worried, i am the man next door said he saw 25 foxes in the road later that night. with a new born baby a midwife would be calling every day for the 1st 4 weeks, would they not do something to get the broken door fixed?? if the door was left open due to being damaged as already said anything could get in fox, dog, cat burglar. But then on saying that in another story there was no broken door.. let hope the police and social services get to the bottom of this story - even just for the sake of that poor child who is going to be scared for life - thankfully he may not remember what happened, but will have the scare to prove it!
Your dog one is still on here, I've just seen it...
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: yh i seem to have had a few comments removed. ones about the so called dog in particular! some say there was a dog involved. I really cant believe that the fox would have managed to let go of the finger and drop it if it had the whole of the babys arm in its mouth thrashing it about! Of course maybe if the story was correct and didnt keep changing people wouldnt be making all the comments they are! but the media itsself seem to keep changing whats happened. Plus does the father really think that culling foxes ( say in his area) will stop this happening again - if it happened). story is very confusing with the door and whether it was open closed, broken etc. Weather has been horrid last few weeks and if your at home with a new born baby - ok 4 weeks then would you have the door open? or if its broken would you not get it fixed, would you not be more protective of your precious baby and make sure before you left it downstairs near a back door that the door was securly closed especially if you know there are foxes in the area and your worried, i am the man next door said he saw 25 foxes in the road later that night. with a new born baby a midwife would be calling every day for the 1st 4 weeks, would they not do something to get the broken door fixed?? if the door was left open due to being damaged as already said anything could get in fox, dog, cat burglar. But then on saying that in another story there was no broken door.. let hope the police and social services get to the bottom of this story - even just for the sake of that poor child who is going to be scared for life - thankfully he may not remember what happened, but will have the scare to prove it![/p][/quote]Your dog one is still on here, I've just seen it... Inspirationalady28

2:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

reptiles says...

KentFromKent wrote:
Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth.


Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger.

‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth.
‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’
exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom.

The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him.

Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened.

She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.

“She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him.

“His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched


oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies
[quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth. Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger. ‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth. ‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’[/p][/quote]exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom. The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him. Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened. She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door. “She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. “His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies reptiles

2:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reptiles wrote:
KentFromKent wrote:
Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth.


Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger.

‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth.
‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’
exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom.

The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him.

Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened.

She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.

“She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him.

“His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched


oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies
If I was wrestling with a fox in a panic the last place I'd be looking is down below!
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth. Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger. ‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth. ‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’[/p][/quote]exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom. The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him. Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened. She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door. “She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. “His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies[/p][/quote]If I was wrestling with a fox in a panic the last place I'd be looking is down below! Inspirationalady28

2:37pm Tue 12 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
#the wall; Nobody told me that at all..I said I'd heard that! It had been mentioned in various national news comments. Just because I quote something that I read/hear doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something!
You say that 'you heard' from where ?

Now change it to read/ heard.

What national news comments?

'doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something! - Then why try to make it look like that?
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: #the wall; Nobody told me that at all..I said I'd heard that! It had been mentioned in various national news comments. Just because I quote something that I read/hear doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something![/p][/quote]You say that 'you heard' from where ? Now change it to read/ heard. What national news comments? 'doesn't automatically mean I said it or know something! - Then why try to make it look like that? the wall

2:45pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

reptiles wrote:
KentFromKent wrote:
Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth.


Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger.

‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth.
‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’
exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom.

The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him.

Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened.

She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door.

“She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him.

“His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched


oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies
Young fox are attracted to a baby's soiled nappy..to them it smells like food. That's why you occasionally see them pulling them out of bin bags.
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: Just read this on another online newspaper site, the story changes hourly, someone must know the truth. Denny was attacked by a male fox while he was on the sofa in the living room and tried to drag him out of the house by the hand, severing his left ring finger. ‘His mother Hayley heard his screams and then a thud as the fox pulled Denny off the sofa. She said that when she ran towards the fox, it hissed at her through its teeth. ‘If it hadn’t been for her quick actions, who knows what would have happened. We think the fox must have smelled Denny as I don’t think he’d have seen him from the garden.’[/p][/quote]exactly!!! that is totally different to what is in the story above! no mention of sofa or living room according to story above baby was in a cot " His mother Hayley Cawley, of Dagonet Road, said she found the fox with her new-born son's hand in its mouth after she went to investigate a noise coming from the bedroom. The fox apparently dragged the baby out of his cot, causing him to fall onto the floor, where it continued attacking him. Denny’s aunt Lorraine Murphy, of nearby Shroffold Road, says the family are devastated by what happened. She said: “Hayley had just gone upstairs when she heard a bang and came running down and the fox was dragging the baby towards the back door. “She kicked the fox a few times before it would release him. “His hand was badly damaged and he had four cuts to his face, one of which had to be stitched oh and can someone enlighten me HOW the mother knew it was MALE fox? and do foxes "smell" babies[/p][/quote]Young fox are attracted to a baby's soiled nappy..to them it smells like food. That's why you occasionally see them pulling them out of bin bags. Inspirationalady28

3:42pm Tue 12 Feb 13

annadley says...

Much has been made of the broken back door of the property where this 'attack' took place. However, Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013. We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date."

It begins to unravel.
Much has been made of the broken back door of the property where this 'attack' took place. However, Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013. We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date." It begins to unravel. annadley

3:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

annadley wrote:
Much has been made of the broken back door of the property where this 'attack' took place. However, Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013. We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date."

It begins to unravel.
That was commented on a couple of days ago
[quote][p][bold]annadley[/bold] wrote: Much has been made of the broken back door of the property where this 'attack' took place. However, Phoenix Community Housing says this had been repaired on January 24. "We can confirm that repairs were carried out to windows and doors at the property on January 24 2013. We did not receive further reports from the family for repairs works at the home after this date." It begins to unravel.[/p][/quote]That was commented on a couple of days ago reasonable75

4:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Donna_T says...

Why do comments get removed when anyone replies to Lou the shady lady ?
Why do comments get removed when anyone replies to Lou the shady lady ? Donna_T

10:51pm Tue 12 Feb 13

paulbexleyheath says...

does anyone think thats it was a bog that they are trying to protect by blaiming a fox. it just dont add up
does anyone think thats it was a bog that they are trying to protect by blaiming a fox. it just dont add up paulbexleyheath

11:48pm Tue 12 Feb 13

seanharwood123 says...

dont feed the stinking things they are nothing but trouble
dont feed the stinking things they are nothing but trouble seanharwood123

7:43am Wed 13 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again!

Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot)

Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox)

Finger was not bitten off

It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house"

And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases

The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00


(and the paper states Bromley)
There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again! Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot) Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox) Finger was not bitten off It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house" And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00 (and the paper states Bromley) reasonable75

8:09am Wed 13 Feb 13

reptiles says...

reasonable75 wrote:
There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again!

Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot)

Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox)

Finger was not bitten off

It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house"

And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases

The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00


(and the paper states Bromley)
blimey was that reporter on another planet or something??
Seems so stranger as they stories all seme to differ so much in so many ways about what happened and how the fox got it. The only 2 things that are the same in most stories is that a) a baby was seriously injured and b) it was a fox.
So either the different reporters are making stories up or they are given different accounts of what happened. I think if i remember from a few days ago there is more than 1 story on here and they are not the same.
I have never known a story with so many different versions of accounts
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again! Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot) Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox) Finger was not bitten off It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house" And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00 (and the paper states Bromley)[/p][/quote]blimey was that reporter on another planet or something?? Seems so stranger as they stories all seme to differ so much in so many ways about what happened and how the fox got it. The only 2 things that are the same in most stories is that a) a baby was seriously injured and b) it was a fox. So either the different reporters are making stories up or they are given different accounts of what happened. I think if i remember from a few days ago there is more than 1 story on here and they are not the same. I have never known a story with so many different versions of accounts reptiles

8:36am Wed 13 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

You're obviously not reading NS often enough. You should see what they've said about foxes today - you won't believe what they've said now. Wipe them off the face of the earth - foxes that is, or maybe not. Actually, maybe wipe NS off the face of the earth and solve the problem that way.
You're obviously not reading NS often enough. You should see what they've said about foxes today - you won't believe what they've said now. Wipe them off the face of the earth - foxes that is, or maybe not. Actually, maybe wipe NS off the face of the earth and solve the problem that way. banjo8

9:01am Wed 13 Feb 13

reptiles says...

no as i havent had a copy of the NS for many yrs i only get to read it online and only see stories of comments have been made and it takes a while to read all the comments on some stories like this one, but will take a look now!
There is nothing wrong with foxes or any other animal, unfrtunatly its us the human race, we take away thier homes and they have to fight to survive. Thankfully ones near me are looked after by locals as YES i feed them. TBH id rather put spent food in the garden for them to eat than the brown bin - that the council decide to empty if they feel there in enough in it! Between foxes and birds nothing lasts long once you put it down, especially in this cold snowy weather weve had. Maybe if more people fed them they wouldnt have to scavenge for food - or apparently maul babies!!
no as i havent had a copy of the NS for many yrs i only get to read it online and only see stories of comments have been made and it takes a while to read all the comments on some stories like this one, but will take a look now! There is nothing wrong with foxes or any other animal, unfrtunatly its us the human race, we take away thier homes and they have to fight to survive. Thankfully ones near me are looked after by locals as YES i feed them. TBH id rather put spent food in the garden for them to eat than the brown bin - that the council decide to empty if they feel there in enough in it! Between foxes and birds nothing lasts long once you put it down, especially in this cold snowy weather weve had. Maybe if more people fed them they wouldnt have to scavenge for food - or apparently maul babies!! reptiles

9:29am Wed 13 Feb 13

Sayso says...

reasonable75 wrote:
There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again!

Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot)

Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox)

Finger was not bitten off

It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house"

And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases

The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00


(and the paper states Bromley)
Any sympathy I may or may not have had for this family (which wasn't much to begin with as I don't believe this tale at all) has now evaporated after seeing the mum on the front of The Sun looking all glammed up and presumably making a huge sum of money off the back of this 'nightmare'. Shame on her for gaining financially from something like this and trying to become some sort of celebrity figure.
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again! Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot) Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox) Finger was not bitten off It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house" And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00 (and the paper states Bromley)[/p][/quote]Any sympathy I may or may not have had for this family (which wasn't much to begin with as I don't believe this tale at all) has now evaporated after seeing the mum on the front of The Sun looking all glammed up and presumably making a huge sum of money off the back of this 'nightmare'. Shame on her for gaining financially from something like this and trying to become some sort of celebrity figure. Sayso

9:43am Wed 13 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Wonder how much she's made for her exclusive?
Wonder how much she's made for her exclusive? Marty1979

9:54am Wed 13 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Sayso wrote:
reasonable75 wrote:
There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again!

Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot)

Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox)

Finger was not bitten off

It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house"

And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases

The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00


(and the paper states Bromley)
Any sympathy I may or may not have had for this family (which wasn't much to begin with as I don't believe this tale at all) has now evaporated after seeing the mum on the front of The Sun looking all glammed up and presumably making a huge sum of money off the back of this 'nightmare'. Shame on her for gaining financially from something like this and trying to become some sort of celebrity figure.
I've just finished reading that "exclusive" report and I thought the same.. Also the stories we are reading are changing all the time. From what I've read, the baby's finger wasn't ripped of completely, the Mother says she had to twist the baby's wrist out of the fox mouth and then she calmly closed the door!!?
[quote][p][bold]Sayso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: There is an "exclusive" in the Sun today - and the facts have changed yet again! Baby was propped up on a sofa downstairs (not in a cot) Babys head was lodged in the door frame (not being swung around by the fox) Finger was not bitten off It was the front door, no mention of a defect "The fox grabbed him after slipping in through the family’s front door. Paul had left earlier to collect older children Ellouise, nine, and five-year-old Lee from school and had slammed the door shut behind him. But Hayley believes the latch did not catch properly and the fox was able to slip into the house" And the baby was taken to Kings College, not St Thomases The paper is advertising an exclusive video of an interview from 12.00 (and the paper states Bromley)[/p][/quote]Any sympathy I may or may not have had for this family (which wasn't much to begin with as I don't believe this tale at all) has now evaporated after seeing the mum on the front of The Sun looking all glammed up and presumably making a huge sum of money off the back of this 'nightmare'. Shame on her for gaining financially from something like this and trying to become some sort of celebrity figure.[/p][/quote]I've just finished reading that "exclusive" report and I thought the same.. Also the stories we are reading are changing all the time. From what I've read, the baby's finger wasn't ripped of completely, the Mother says she had to twist the baby's wrist out of the fox mouth and then she calmly closed the door!!? Inspirationalady28

9:55am Wed 13 Feb 13

reptiles says...

ah see different info here SHE tore the babys hand
"She said: “It wouldn’t let go so I grabbed Dennie’s wrist and tore it out of the fox’s mouth.”

Must admit after an ordeal like that she seems to be smiling - id still be upset! and now its not a cot but was propped up on the sofa? and a porch is at the Front of a house not the back but all other stories mention back door and that fox was in garden. plus did she kick or hit the fox with her hand? so WHY was the Front door open? "He was losing a lot of blood and I thought the fox might have taken his finger." SO the finger was NOT torn off then??
hospital has now changed from St Thomas to Kings?
oh and i love the photo of the fox in a nearby garden that the photographer managed to get.
Also lvoe the fact that the story is EXCLUSIVE to the SUN ?????? mmm then how come we have been reading similar stories for days on here!
Also as said above photo of parents looking happy is a bit much after an ordeal like that!


I am now so confused with these stories you just really dont know what to believe any more
ah see different info here SHE tore the babys hand "She said: “It wouldn’t let go so I grabbed Dennie’s wrist and tore it out of the fox’s mouth.” Must admit after an ordeal like that she seems to be smiling - id still be upset! and now its not a cot but was propped up on the sofa? and a porch is at the Front of a house not the back but all other stories mention back door and that fox was in garden. plus did she kick or hit the fox with her hand? so WHY was the Front door open? "He was losing a lot of blood and I thought the fox might have taken his finger." SO the finger was NOT torn off then?? hospital has now changed from St Thomas to Kings? oh and i love the photo of the fox in a nearby garden that the photographer managed to get. Also lvoe the fact that the story is EXCLUSIVE to the SUN ?????? mmm then how come we have been reading similar stories for days on here! Also as said above photo of parents looking happy is a bit much after an ordeal like that! I am now so confused with these stories you just really dont know what to believe any more reptiles

10:00am Wed 13 Feb 13

reptiles says...

hang on ive just found another story in the sun totally differnet
http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/new
s/4787747/Fox-drags-
four-week-old-baby-f
rom-cot-and-rips-fin
ger-off.html

headline Fox drags baby from cot and rips finger off
Mum finds four-week-old's severed digit on floor - mind you this was dated 10th?
god ive got such a headache now trying to piece it all together as its all so confliciting
hang on ive just found another story in the sun totally differnet http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/new s/4787747/Fox-drags- four-week-old-baby-f rom-cot-and-rips-fin ger-off.html headline Fox drags baby from cot and rips finger off Mum finds four-week-old's severed digit on floor - mind you this was dated 10th? god ive got such a headache now trying to piece it all together as its all so confliciting reptiles

10:41am Wed 13 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

This piece really puzzles me... The Mother said that when she was in labour with the baby her sister-in-law came over to her house to help tidy it up. While she was washing the floor she left a door open so that it would dry quicker, she turns around and there's a fox in the living room so she throws the mop at it. Then she has said this today in The Sun.. “But I never thought in a million years a fox would come through the front door to snatch him.” !!!!!


Read more: http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/new
s/4792500/Mum-tells-
of-how-she-ripped-he
r-baby-from-the-jaws
-of-fox.html#ixzz2Km
2JqoeY
This piece really puzzles me... The Mother said that when she was in labour with the baby her sister-in-law came over to her house to help tidy it up. While she was washing the floor she left a door open so that it would dry quicker, she turns around and there's a fox in the living room so she throws the mop at it. Then she has said this today in The Sun.. “But I never thought in a million years a fox would come through the front door to snatch him.” !!!!! Read more: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/new s/4792500/Mum-tells- of-how-she-ripped-he r-baby-from-the-jaws -of-fox.html#ixzz2Km 2JqoeY Inspirationalady28

10:58am Wed 13 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
This piece really puzzles me... The Mother said that when she was in labour with the baby her sister-in-law came over to her house to help tidy it up. While she was washing the floor she left a door open so that it would dry quicker, she turns around and there's a fox in the living room so she throws the mop at it. Then she has said this today in The Sun.. “But I never thought in a million years a fox would come through the front door to snatch him.” !!!!!


Read more: http://www.thesun.co

.uk/sol/homepage/new

s/4792500/Mum-tells-

of-how-she-ripped-he

r-baby-from-the-jaws

-of-fox.html#ixzz2Km

2JqoeY
That you believe anything in the Sun Lou says lots about you.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: This piece really puzzles me... The Mother said that when she was in labour with the baby her sister-in-law came over to her house to help tidy it up. While she was washing the floor she left a door open so that it would dry quicker, she turns around and there's a fox in the living room so she throws the mop at it. Then she has said this today in The Sun.. “But I never thought in a million years a fox would come through the front door to snatch him.” !!!!! Read more: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/new s/4792500/Mum-tells- of-how-she-ripped-he r-baby-from-the-jaws -of-fox.html#ixzz2Km 2JqoeY[/p][/quote]That you believe anything in the Sun Lou says lots about you. Gypo.Joe

11:18am Wed 13 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

Wow, the Sun has done stacks on this, wonder how much NS got for the story?
Wow, the Sun has done stacks on this, wonder how much NS got for the story? banjo8

11:31am Wed 13 Feb 13

the wall says...

Oh The Sun newspaper known for the truth and facts in all it's reports.......... Oh no sorry I got that wrong, just like the Sun gets 99.9 % of ever thing wrong. Please also don't forget Rupert Murdoch owns that paper. The man you allows staff to hack a dead girls phone and gave hope to her family that she was still alive. Let no also forget the Hillsborough football stadium disaster.

One of you I'm not surprised at reading the sun and taken it as truthful as a Police statement.
Oh The Sun newspaper known for the truth and facts in all it's reports.......... Oh no sorry I got that wrong, just like the Sun gets 99.9 % of ever thing wrong. Please also don't forget Rupert Murdoch owns that paper. The man you allows staff to hack a dead girls phone and gave hope to her family that she was still alive. Let no also forget the Hillsborough football stadium disaster. One of you I'm not surprised at reading the sun and taken it as truthful as a Police statement. the wall

11:45am Wed 13 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!!
I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!! Inspirationalady28

11:49am Wed 13 Feb 13

the wall says...

Oh the irony of that statement.
Oh the irony of that statement. the wall

11:49am Wed 13 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!!
Lewisham Lou, I bet you have to watch where you park your broom round there.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!![/p][/quote]Lewisham Lou, I bet you have to watch where you park your broom round there. Gypo.Joe

12:19pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Simon bald says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!!
It's like the modern day version of peeking through the net curtains for you ain't it Louise,loving someone else's misfortune and then stirring the pot to make things worse.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: I do not buy or take pleasure in reading any newspapers, least of all "The Sun"! Neither do I believe everything I hear on the Tv/Radio, but having said that, I'm only interested in this particular story because I happen to live in the Lewisham area and know of people who live close by to where this incident took place!!![/p][/quote]It's like the modern day version of peeking through the net curtains for you ain't it Louise,loving someone else's misfortune and then stirring the pot to make things worse. Simon bald

12:30pm Wed 13 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

The papers must love this stuff though - all the dodgy morning TV shows will ahve it next.
The papers must love this stuff though - all the dodgy morning TV shows will ahve it next. banjo8

1:42pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RoseinJune says...

People have raised some good points and quite rightly so. You cannot expect people not to be curious when it's being shoved in their faces almost daily, especially with all the different stories circulating. Let's be fair about this. When things like this don't seem to be making any sense, people are going to start asking questions! If the public are thinking like this, just imagine what the Police must be thinking?
People have raised some good points and quite rightly so. You cannot expect people not to be curious when it's being shoved in their faces almost daily, especially with all the different stories circulating. Let's be fair about this. When things like this don't seem to be making any sense, people are going to start asking questions! If the public are thinking like this, just imagine what the Police must be thinking? RoseinJune

1:50pm Wed 13 Feb 13

lilly007 says...

Why dont the council collect the rubbish every week and provide boxes where foxs can not get in to and ask people to stop feeding them .Dont kill them why should they die when we have murders that live ,i say kill the murders and feed them to the foxes .
Why dont the council collect the rubbish every week and provide boxes where foxs can not get in to and ask people to stop feeding them .Dont kill them why should they die when we have murders that live ,i say kill the murders and feed them to the foxes . lilly007

2:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

You're right about feeding them, it's the people that put out tasty titbits for foxes that have really caused this problem. The blood of that baby is on the hands of anyone in this area who either has fed, or continues to feed these vicious creatures.
You're right about feeding them, it's the people that put out tasty titbits for foxes that have really caused this problem. The blood of that baby is on the hands of anyone in this area who either has fed, or continues to feed these vicious creatures. banjo8

2:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RoseinJune says...

Have you seen the Downham area? Nearly on every street corner there's rubbish of one kind or another..from broken furniture to car parts..it's called fly tipping! If it wasn't for the foxes they'd have an infestation of real vermin..RATS!
Have you seen the Downham area? Nearly on every street corner there's rubbish of one kind or another..from broken furniture to car parts..it's called fly tipping! If it wasn't for the foxes they'd have an infestation of real vermin..RATS! RoseinJune

5:57pm Wed 13 Feb 13

bruceyboots says...

yawn!
yawn! bruceyboots

8:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

The father has now sold his story to the Evening Standard (with even more variations)

And he's complaining about attacks by Internet trolls
The father has now sold his story to the Evening Standard (with even more variations) And he's complaining about attacks by Internet trolls Marty1979

8:32pm Wed 13 Feb 13

RoseinJune says...

Internet trolls? That's a good thing isn't it? At least it will get rid of some of the two legged vermin on here.
Internet trolls? That's a good thing isn't it? At least it will get rid of some of the two legged vermin on here. RoseinJune

6:39am Thu 14 Feb 13

Oldchap says...

He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground"

But that's no guarantee of safety

And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.
He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground" But that's no guarantee of safety And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip. Oldchap

7:32am Thu 14 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Oldchap wrote:
He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground"

But that's no guarantee of safety

And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.
I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!
[quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground" But that's no guarantee of safety And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.[/p][/quote]I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox! Inspirationalady28

8:23am Thu 14 Feb 13

banjo8 says...

I've just seen the family on TV and I for one believe them.
I've just seen the family on TV and I for one believe them. banjo8

9:59am Thu 14 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Oldchap wrote:
He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground"

But that's no guarantee of safety

And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.
I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!
In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”.......

Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ?

What has it got to do with you ?

Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here?

Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important.
The authorities don't have to tell you anything.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground" But that's no guarantee of safety And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.[/p][/quote]I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox![/p][/quote]In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”....... Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ? What has it got to do with you ? Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here? Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important. The authorities don't have to tell you anything. the wall

10:14am Thu 14 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Oldchap wrote:
He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground"

But that's no guarantee of safety

And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.
I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!
In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”.......

Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ?

What has it got to do with you ?

Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here?

Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important.
The authorities don't have to tell you anything.
The public have every right to know the outcome. I'm getting fed up with your continuous online bullying towards me and I will be taking some action on this then you'll see how important I really am.. So back off!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground" But that's no guarantee of safety And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.[/p][/quote]I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox![/p][/quote]In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”....... Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ? What has it got to do with you ? Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here? Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important. The authorities don't have to tell you anything.[/p][/quote]The public have every right to know the outcome. I'm getting fed up with your continuous online bullying towards me and I will be taking some action on this then you'll see how important I really am.. So back off!!!!! Inspirationalady28

10:16am Thu 14 Feb 13

KentFromKent says...

(I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)
(I'll get my popcorn, this could be good) KentFromKent

10:20am Thu 14 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

KentFromKent wrote:
(I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)
Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :)
[quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: (I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)[/p][/quote]Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :) Inspirationalady28

10:41am Thu 14 Feb 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Oldchap wrote:
He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground"

But that's no guarantee of safety

And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.
I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!
In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”.......

Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ?

What has it got to do with you ?

Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here?

Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important.
The authorities don't have to tell you anything.
The public have every right to know the outcome. I'm getting fed up with your continuous online bullying towards me and I will be taking some action on this then you'll see how important I really am.. So back off!!!!!
How have I bullied you in that comment I have just ask you some question. So what are you saying no one is allowed to question what you write?


There is a report button use it, if you think I have been false, abusive or malicious.

The outcome is the Police have found no evidence of foul play. Do you really need to see that every i has a dot and every t is crossed. The Police are very busy let them do their job.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldchap[/bold] wrote: He's said he wants to move to a flat "off the ground" But that's no guarantee of safety And he's still blaming the council (and as article states Bromley I expect Cllr Smith to be making another comment) because people fly tip.[/p][/quote]I'm sure we are all aware of by now that the address in question although it has a BR1 postcode, I can assure you that the wheelie bins there have Lewisham on them. According to a report, the Police are satisfied that no criminal offence took place and no further action will be required.. In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox![/p][/quote]In all of this, we still have not been told by the Authorities if they ran DNA testing to determine if it was that of a fox!”....... Why do you think the 'authorities' need to tell you ? What has it got to do with you ? Why don't you have some bottle and ring the 'authorities' and ask them instead of sniping on here? Sorry to inform you but in the grand scheme of things you're not that important. The authorities don't have to tell you anything.[/p][/quote]The public have every right to know the outcome. I'm getting fed up with your continuous online bullying towards me and I will be taking some action on this then you'll see how important I really am.. So back off!!!!![/p][/quote]How have I bullied you in that comment I have just ask you some question. So what are you saying no one is allowed to question what you write? There is a report button use it, if you think I have been false, abusive or malicious. The outcome is the Police have found no evidence of foul play. Do you really need to see that every i has a dot and every t is crossed. The Police are very busy let them do their job. the wall

11:21am Thu 14 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
KentFromKent wrote:
(I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)
Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :)
Steady now Lou. That sounds like a threat to me, are you threatening to push another poster off of a wall ?

'Wall' watch your back please.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: (I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)[/p][/quote]Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :)[/p][/quote]Steady now Lou. That sounds like a threat to me, are you threatening to push another poster off of a wall ? 'Wall' watch your back please. Gypo.Joe

11:25am Thu 14 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
KentFromKent wrote:
(I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)
Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :)
Steady now Lou. That sounds like a threat to me, are you threatening to push another poster off of a wall ?

'Wall' watch your back please.
Lol!!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KentFromKent[/bold] wrote: (I'll get my popcorn, this could be good)[/p][/quote]Don't get too comfy because you know what happened to Humpty Dumpty!!? :)[/p][/quote]Steady now Lou. That sounds like a threat to me, are you threatening to push another poster off of a wall ? 'Wall' watch your back please.[/p][/quote]Lol!! Inspirationalady28

11:34am Thu 14 Feb 13

the wall says...

Having trouble typing someone is sitting on me.


Also waiting for the interweb Police to come and get me.
Having trouble typing someone is sitting on me. Also waiting for the interweb Police to come and get me. the wall

11:38am Thu 14 Feb 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

the wall wrote:
Having trouble typing someone is sitting on me.


Also waiting for the interweb Police to come and get me.
Lol!!!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Having trouble typing someone is sitting on me. Also waiting for the interweb Police to come and get me.[/p][/quote]Lol!!! Inspirationalady28

5:23pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Downhamlad says...

I often see foxes but they usually run away when I get near

One rather stuid comment in the sun


Lorraine said: “I’ve got grandchildren and I worry about letting them outside. The foxes are a menace round here — there’s millions of them. They should cull them all.”

Millions? Yeah, right
I often see foxes but they usually run away when I get near One rather stuid comment in the sun Lorraine said: “I’ve got grandchildren and I worry about letting them outside. The foxes are a menace round here — there’s millions of them. They should cull them all.” Millions? Yeah, right Downhamlad

5:29pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Oldchap says...

And there's are great article on

http://newsthump.com
/2013/02/11/foxes-de
veloping-ability-to-
carry-out-low-level-
car-crime/
And there's are great article on http://newsthump.com /2013/02/11/foxes-de veloping-ability-to- carry-out-low-level- car-crime/ Oldchap

10:49am Fri 15 Feb 13

reasonable75 says...

OK, let's go through the reports

Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten

Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched

Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off

Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open?

Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College


Have I missed anything?
OK, let's go through the reports Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open? Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College Have I missed anything? reasonable75

11:18am Fri 15 Feb 13

reptiles says...

reasonable75 wrote:
OK, let's go through the reports

Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten

Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched

Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off

Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open?

Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College


Have I missed anything?
haha yes think there were a few more changes but lost count! couple of things i remember
mother kicked fox to get it to drop baby - changed to mother hit fox with hand.
Also babies head was caught in doorway rather than hurt when it was dragged to floor
[quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: OK, let's go through the reports Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open? Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College Have I missed anything?[/p][/quote]haha yes think there were a few more changes but lost count! couple of things i remember mother kicked fox to get it to drop baby - changed to mother hit fox with hand. Also babies head was caught in doorway rather than hurt when it was dragged to floor reptiles

2:25pm Fri 15 Feb 13

TIGGY-LEWISHAM says...

reasonable 75..... exactly!!

everytime they say something its different from the last time, and the police are happy with everything... this is so very strange!!
reasonable 75..... exactly!! everytime they say something its different from the last time, and the police are happy with everything... this is so very strange!! TIGGY-LEWISHAM

4:02pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

reptiles wrote:
reasonable75 wrote: OK, let's go through the reports Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open? Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College Have I missed anything?
haha yes think there were a few more changes but lost count! couple of things i remember mother kicked fox to get it to drop baby - changed to mother hit fox with hand. Also babies head was caught in doorway rather than hurt when it was dragged to floor
And if you look at the story where they're complaining about trolls, it now says he's a rat catcher - original storyies say he's a roofer
[quote][p][bold]reptiles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reasonable75[/bold] wrote: OK, let's go through the reports Finger was completely bitten off ("torn off") - changed to badly bitten Fox got in through back door, which was waiting for council to fix - changed to got in through front door that father slammed but it hadn't latched Baby was upstairs in cot, which fox climbed in & dragged baby out - changed to baby propped up on sofa, fox dragged baby off Mother was downstairs - changed to mother upstairs (so if she left baby downstairs whilst she went upstairs how come she didnt notice the front door was open? Baby taken to St Thomases hospital - changed to Kings College Have I missed anything?[/p][/quote]haha yes think there were a few more changes but lost count! couple of things i remember mother kicked fox to get it to drop baby - changed to mother hit fox with hand. Also babies head was caught in doorway rather than hurt when it was dragged to floor[/p][/quote]And if you look at the story where they're complaining about trolls, it now says he's a rat catcher - original storyies say he's a roofer Marty1979

4:27pm Fri 15 Feb 13

reptiles says...

oh you gotta laugh!!!
oh you gotta laugh!!! reptiles

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