Bromley benefits cap could increase crime rate, claimants say

Benefits claimants Ben Martin and James Smith think the cap could cause people to turn to crime

Benefits claimants Ben Martin and James Smith think the cap could cause people to turn to crime

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CAPPING Bromley people’s benefits could drive them into a life of crime as they struggle to survive and support their families, it has been claimed.

The borough has been selected to trial the coalition government’s reform to the benefit system where from April 1 households will see their benefits capped at £500 a week.

James Smith and Ben Martin fear what will happen once the cap comes in as they say it is hard enough for people to survive on the benefits they receive at the moment.

Mr Smith, of Widmore Road, Bromley, says he gets about £56 a week employment support allowance and has not had a job since he left The Priory School about three years ago.

“I think they have not done enough to help people.

“There are so many people stealing and they have to do it to survive.

“The government needs to seriously think about what they are doing because people cannot afford to exist.

“They were saying they were going to do a millionaire tax and if they did that there would be more money for everyone else.”

The 19-year-old wants to be a chef or in the army and would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in.

“I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man."

His friend Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits: “By the time we do the shopping and pay for gas and electric there is no money for travel or anything.

“Your family do not give you money because they are in the same position and they are just trying to survive.”

Mr Martin, of Turpington Lane, Bromley Common, added: “People rob and get put in prison just to survive.”

He wants to work as a labourer but says he cannot afford to take the construction skills certification scheme course he needs to prove he is competent on a building site.

A Department for Work and Pensions spokesman says Bromley was chosen as a trial area because it represents a good cross section of the benefits claimed.

He added: “It cannot be fair that benefit claimants can receive higher incomes than families who are in work – in some cases more than double the average household income.

“The benefit cap sets a clear limit to what people can expect to get from the benefits system and will tackle the problem of welfare dependency."

The benefits cap explained

The borough has been selected to trial the coalition government’s reform to the benefit system from April 1 – along with Croydon, Enfield and Haringey.

From this date couples (with or without children living with them) will have their benefits capped at £500 a week.

Single parents whose children live with them will receive a maximum of £500 a week.

And single adults who do not have children, or whose children do not live with them, will get their benefits capped at £350.

Who will be affected by the benefits cap?

The cap applies to the total amount people in a household get from the following benefits: 

  1. Bereavement Allowance 
  2. Carer’s Allowance 
  3. Child Benefit 
  4. Child Tax Credit 
  5. Employment and Support Allowance (unless you get the support component)
  6. Guardian’s Allowance 
  7. Housing Benefit 
  8. Incapacity Benefit 
  9. Income Support 
  10. . Jobseeker’s Allowance
  11. . Maternity Allowance
  12. . Severe Disablement Allowance 
    13. Widowed Parent’s Allowance (or Widowed Mother’s Allowance or Widows Pension you started getting before 9 April 2001)


Who will not be affected by the cap?

The benefit cap will not affect people who qualify for working tax credit or who get the following benefits:

  1. Disability Living Allowance 
  2. Personal Independence Payment (from April 2013) 
  3. Attendance Allowance 
  4. Industrial Injuries Benefits (and equivalent payments as part of a war disablement pension or the Armed Forces Compensation Scheme) 
  5. Employment and Support Allowance, if you get the support component 
  6. War Widow’s or War Widower’s Pension

    What do you think of the benefits cap? Have your say below.
     

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8:30am Wed 30 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

I find it ironic that this article contains an advert for The Glums musical.

There will be many Daily Wail readers who will cry their eyes out at the fictional tale of M.Valjean stealing food to survive, whilst slagging off Mr Smith & Mr Martin as being part of "Broken Britain".

Incidentally lads, don't be too hard on the DWP spokesman, he's just saying what his boss told him to say, if he did not then he would soon be unemployed as well.
I find it ironic that this article contains an advert for The Glums musical. There will be many Daily Wail readers who will cry their eyes out at the fictional tale of M.Valjean stealing food to survive, whilst slagging off Mr Smith & Mr Martin as being part of "Broken Britain". Incidentally lads, don't be too hard on the DWP spokesman, he's just saying what his boss told him to say, if he did not then he would soon be unemployed as well. goldenbroomboy
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9:11am Wed 30 Jan 13

Indigenous UK Pensioner says...

THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you. Indigenous UK Pensioner
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9:12am Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Hopefully this will send out a message to all of the young people out there. Those who have never worked since leaving school and thought that by having kids at such an early age that they could rely on state handouts are in for a rude "wake-up call".!!!!
Hopefully this will send out a message to all of the young people out there. Those who have never worked since leaving school and thought that by having kids at such an early age that they could rely on state handouts are in for a rude "wake-up call".!!!! Inspirationalady28
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9:28am Wed 30 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

Hang on Mr Martin claims he cant afford the CSCs certfication which in fact is £30 for a card and a test at £17.50 so how about you do what those in work have to do and save up ?

I dont get given any money by my family either, i have to watch what we spend and work out how we can afford things.We saved before having kids as we didnt expect others to pay for their upkeep.

All a millionaires tax will do is drive the very people who stimulate the economy away to other countries,just look at france who has done that and is now thinking of doing a U turn.

If you really wanted to get work you would do what ever you could to save up the money for the cscs card.You could get that money easily if you put your mind to it.

Even sitting at home you get the money given to you that i pay in tax from working without seeing my family all week.Have you got the balls to do what is required to support your family ?
Hang on Mr Martin claims he cant afford the CSCs certfication which in fact is £30 for a card and a test at £17.50 so how about you do what those in work have to do and save up ? I dont get given any money by my family either, i have to watch what we spend and work out how we can afford things.We saved before having kids as we didnt expect others to pay for their upkeep. All a millionaires tax will do is drive the very people who stimulate the economy away to other countries,just look at france who has done that and is now thinking of doing a U turn. If you really wanted to get work you would do what ever you could to save up the money for the cscs card.You could get that money easily if you put your mind to it. Even sitting at home you get the money given to you that i pay in tax from working without seeing my family all week.Have you got the balls to do what is required to support your family ? toomush2drink
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9:37am Wed 30 Jan 13

toomush2drink says...

Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
So they take all the jobs but you then say they should have to prove they have got a job ?

So what is it that they do to get a job that our own cant or wont do ? Oh yes take whatever job there is to earn money and progress from there.The trouble is benefits pays too much so starting at the bottom isnt appealing to most.
[quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]So they take all the jobs but you then say they should have to prove they have got a job ? So what is it that they do to get a job that our own cant or wont do ? Oh yes take whatever job there is to earn money and progress from there.The trouble is benefits pays too much so starting at the bottom isnt appealing to most. toomush2drink
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9:51am Wed 30 Jan 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
[quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'. rescaaffering oldey
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10:05am Wed 30 Jan 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

toomush2drink wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
So they take all the jobs but you then say they should have to prove they have got a job ? So what is it that they do to get a job that our own cant or wont do ? Oh yes take whatever job there is to earn money and progress from there.The trouble is benefits pays too much so starting at the bottom isnt appealing to most.
...listen-up - no civilised country in the world would just sign up to a notion that anyone who wants to just try their hand of coming to the u.k. should just arrive from within europe and look for work!! but this country did just that - so called 'experts' in the government said only 13,000 migrants from easten europe would arrive - yet over one million arrived... everyone knows that the black market is thriving - cash in hand cheap labour is operating in every high street... a bloke earning 76pence an hour is some eastern europe factory is going to jump at the chance of undercutting the six quid minimum rate here - and work for three quid an hour selling coffee... you need a little bit of joined-up thinking - and see what's going on in the real world in modern day britiain... there's a whole army of people out there... not registered, not paying taxes, avoiding the authorities in a cat and mouse exercise... *but sending billions back to their 'home' countries!!... and helping to keep british youngsters out of jobs!! join-up the dots... it's all there if you look!!
[quote][p][bold]toomush2drink[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]So they take all the jobs but you then say they should have to prove they have got a job ? So what is it that they do to get a job that our own cant or wont do ? Oh yes take whatever job there is to earn money and progress from there.The trouble is benefits pays too much so starting at the bottom isnt appealing to most.[/p][/quote]...listen-up - no civilised country in the world would just sign up to a notion that anyone who wants to just try their hand of coming to the u.k. should just arrive from within europe and look for work!! but this country did just that - so called 'experts' in the government said only 13,000 migrants from easten europe would arrive - yet over one million arrived... everyone knows that the black market is thriving - cash in hand cheap labour is operating in every high street... a bloke earning 76pence an hour is some eastern europe factory is going to jump at the chance of undercutting the six quid minimum rate here - and work for three quid an hour selling coffee... you need a little bit of joined-up thinking - and see what's going on in the real world in modern day britiain... there's a whole army of people out there... not registered, not paying taxes, avoiding the authorities in a cat and mouse exercise... *but sending billions back to their 'home' countries!!... and helping to keep british youngsters out of jobs!! join-up the dots... it's all there if you look!! rescaaffering oldey
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10:10am Wed 30 Jan 13

Wispy Wonder says...

How ever the £500 per week is made up, it still equates to £25k per year - well over the national average wage for those actually in work.

I'd love it if someone paid my council tax, rent, and put cash in my pocket.

And still they whine......
How ever the £500 per week is made up, it still equates to £25k per year - well over the national average wage for those actually in work. I'd love it if someone paid my council tax, rent, and put cash in my pocket. And still they whine...... Wispy Wonder
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10:29am Wed 30 Jan 13

ron,,1952 says...

haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well
haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well ron,,1952
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10:34am Wed 30 Jan 13

the wall says...

rescaaffering oldey wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job.

We can go and work in their country if we want to.

Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit.

As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber.


Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it.

James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you?

Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in.
“I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish!

I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.
[quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.[/p][/quote]But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick. the wall
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10:34am Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!!
“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!! Inspirationalady28
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10:35am Wed 30 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p. Gypo.Joe
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10:58am Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
I hope you're not referring to me G.J?
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not referring to me G.J? Inspirationalady28
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11:04am Wed 30 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

No not you young lady. The same Rse holes Daley and Brewer and their various sock puppets.

Who was Leonie A Wiffen, did we ever really find out ???
No not you young lady. The same Rse holes Daley and Brewer and their various sock puppets. Who was Leonie A Wiffen, did we ever really find out ??? Gypo.Joe
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11:12am Wed 30 Jan 13

j.j. says...

The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings.
The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings. j.j.
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11:22am Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
No not you young lady. The same Rse holes Daley and Brewer and their various sock puppets.

Who was Leonie A Wiffen, did we ever really find out ???
Thanks for calling me a YOUNG lady..you've made my day! ;P
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: No not you young lady. The same Rse holes Daley and Brewer and their various sock puppets. Who was Leonie A Wiffen, did we ever really find out ???[/p][/quote]Thanks for calling me a YOUNG lady..you've made my day! ;P Inspirationalady28
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11:22am Wed 30 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

j.j. wrote:
The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings.
Great idea JJ, you have to remember though we are dealing with inbred morons to start with. If they had anything between their ears they would of gained an education of sorts.
[quote][p][bold]j.j.[/bold] wrote: The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings.[/p][/quote]Great idea JJ, you have to remember though we are dealing with inbred morons to start with. If they had anything between their ears they would of gained an education of sorts. Gypo.Joe
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11:55am Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
j.j. wrote:
The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings.
Great idea JJ, you have to remember though we are dealing with inbred morons to start with. If they had anything between their ears they would of gained an education of sorts.
Their brains are in the wrong places!!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]j.j.[/bold] wrote: The idea is to get the birth rate down, not the crime rate up. Mr Martin and his girlfriend are a prime example of this: the benefits cap should make them realise that they can't breed for benefits and rely on the state to look after them. Just like others, they should get a job and stable finances first and then think about taking on the massive financial burden that a child brings.[/p][/quote]Great idea JJ, you have to remember though we are dealing with inbred morons to start with. If they had anything between their ears they would of gained an education of sorts.[/p][/quote]Their brains are in the wrong places!! Inspirationalady28
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11:57am Wed 30 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

ron,,1952 wrote:
haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well
Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look.
[quote][p][bold]ron,,1952[/bold] wrote: haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well[/p][/quote]Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look. goldenbroomboy
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11:59am Wed 30 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!!
You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: “Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!![/p][/quote]You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it. goldenbroomboy
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12:07pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!!
You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.
That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U?
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: “Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!![/p][/quote]You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.[/p][/quote]That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U? Inspirationalady28
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12:07pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ron.1952 says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
ron,,1952 wrote:
haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well
Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look.
GBB some fool is impersonating Ronny.

I dont like the look of young Ben, that Hitler tash ! Looks a bit of a soap dodger too.
Jimmy could be a future ex though if he played his cards right.

Ronny Ron.
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ron,,1952[/bold] wrote: haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well[/p][/quote]Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look.[/p][/quote]GBB some fool is impersonating Ronny. I dont like the look of young Ben, that Hitler tash ! Looks a bit of a soap dodger too. Jimmy could be a future ex though if he played his cards right. Ronny Ron. ron.1952
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12:15pm Wed 30 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

ron.1952 wrote:
goldenbroomboy wrote:
ron,,1952 wrote: haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well
Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look.
GBB some fool is impersonating Ronny. I dont like the look of young Ben, that Hitler tash ! Looks a bit of a soap dodger too. Jimmy could be a future ex though if he played his cards right. Ronny Ron.
Thanks for the clarification, it did seem a bit out of character for you, have a nice day.
[quote][p][bold]ron.1952[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ron,,1952[/bold] wrote: haha wont do that but what is going to happen next year when romania come here as well[/p][/quote]Some very pretty women will arrive looking for temporary work in fields such as electrical enginnering. Hey Ron, you might like some of the blokes, if you like the pale latin look.[/p][/quote]GBB some fool is impersonating Ronny. I dont like the look of young Ben, that Hitler tash ! Looks a bit of a soap dodger too. Jimmy could be a future ex though if he played his cards right. Ronny Ron.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the clarification, it did seem a bit out of character for you, have a nice day. goldenbroomboy
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4:01pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ron.1952 says...

GBB I have done a double take on the NShopper photo of the cute lads, I think they could well be having a bromance.

They do seen very close, maybe just my gaydar though.

Ronny the Ronster xx
GBB I have done a double take on the NShopper photo of the cute lads, I think they could well be having a bromance. They do seen very close, maybe just my gaydar though. Ronny the Ronster xx ron.1952
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4:11pm Wed 30 Jan 13

the wall says...

Maybe there is a certain market these two could make films for?
Maybe there is a certain market these two could make films for? the wall
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4:25pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ron.1952 says...

the wall wrote:
Maybe there is a certain market these two could make films for?
What a great idea Mr Wall. I was think about 'Brokeback Bromley'.

Directed by Ronald William Doncaster ( out of work actor ) himself.

Ron x
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: Maybe there is a certain market these two could make films for?[/p][/quote]What a great idea Mr Wall. I was think about 'Brokeback Bromley'. Directed by Ronald William Doncaster ( out of work actor ) himself. Ron x ron.1952
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8:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
goldenbroomboy wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!!
You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.
That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U?
Now the EU, I would says lets get back to what we went into in the first place. A Common Market, not the United States of Europe with all its crazy laws.
A straight in or out vote ( if we ever get one ) I would say OUT !!
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: “Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!![/p][/quote]You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.[/p][/quote]That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U?[/p][/quote]Now the EU, I would says lets get back to what we went into in the first place. A Common Market, not the United States of Europe with all its crazy laws. A straight in or out vote ( if we ever get one ) I would say OUT !! Gypo.Joe
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7:06am Thu 31 Jan 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
goldenbroomboy wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
“Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!!
You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.
That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U?
Now the EU, I would says lets get back to what we went into in the first place. A Common Market, not the United States of Europe with all its crazy laws.
A straight in or out vote ( if we ever get one ) I would say OUT !!
Well David Cameron says we will get a Referendum...whether we vote to stay in or out there will be some catches either way. At this moment in time and for the way things are heading (no benefit for the UK) I would vote.. OUT!!!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: “Twenty nine million Bulgarians and Romanians will gain the right to live and work unrestricted in Britain in 2014 under European “freedom of movement” rules.” Where are they going to live and work? We don't have enough homes or jobs for our own!!![/p][/quote]You seriously think everybody in those countries is going to want to come here? You might as well argue that more than 100 million Europeans are already entitled to move here, AFAIK the rest of Europe still has some people living in it.[/p][/quote]That is what I read in the papers at the end of last year..whether it happens remains to be seen, but if we stay in the E U it could get worse. What do you think about the E U?[/p][/quote]Now the EU, I would says lets get back to what we went into in the first place. A Common Market, not the United States of Europe with all its crazy laws. A straight in or out vote ( if we ever get one ) I would say OUT !![/p][/quote]Well David Cameron says we will get a Referendum...whether we vote to stay in or out there will be some catches either way. At this moment in time and for the way things are heading (no benefit for the UK) I would vote.. OUT!!! Inspirationalady28
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8:25am Thu 31 Jan 13

Gavinp says...

the wall wrote:
rescaaffering oldey wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job.

We can go and work in their country if we want to.

Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit.

As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber.


Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it.

James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you?

Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in.
“I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish!

I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.
Yes we could go and work in there country but would be entitled to well basically not a lot.

Also we wouldn't be able to earn enough money to send back to England would we?

I know of two polish people who have worked here shared houses and lived in 1 room and have managed to send enough money home to have two properties built out there all before they are 30!

Obviously that's money as well that could of also gone back into our economy.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.[/p][/quote]But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.[/p][/quote]Yes we could go and work in there country but would be entitled to well basically not a lot. Also we wouldn't be able to earn enough money to send back to England would we? I know of two polish people who have worked here shared houses and lived in 1 room and have managed to send enough money home to have two properties built out there all before they are 30! Obviously that's money as well that could of also gone back into our economy. Gavinp
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10:02am Thu 31 Jan 13

BarryNormanPoole says...

the wall wrote:
rescaaffering oldey wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.
"But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do" #You obviously do not keep up with the latest Uk news do you; Polish is the SECOND most spoken language in the Uk!? care to explain that then? Or are you suggesting Uk residents are now all speaking Polish as well?
"Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job." How did YOU retain the job then? Lol "better qualification" maybe you are just making tea all day? you certainly have shown yourself not up to speed with the latest news from the Uk regarding the SECOND most popular language spoken in the Uk!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.[/p][/quote]But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.[/p][/quote]"But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do" #You obviously do not keep up with the latest Uk news do you; Polish is the SECOND most spoken language in the Uk!? care to explain that then? Or are you suggesting Uk residents are now all speaking Polish as well? "Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job." How did YOU retain the job then? Lol "better qualification" maybe you are just making tea all day? you certainly have shown yourself not up to speed with the latest news from the Uk regarding the SECOND most popular language spoken in the Uk! BarryNormanPoole
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10:08am Thu 31 Jan 13

PaulErith says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
I hope you're not referring to me G.J?
Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not referring to me G.J?[/p][/quote]Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country. PaulErith
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10:21am Thu 31 Jan 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

PaulErith wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
I hope you're not referring to me G.J?
Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.
...no one really cares about 'nastymrtom' posting up her daily anti b.n.p. stuff on here... grown-ups can read between the lines of what's happening in this country without taking any notice of a resident troll!! rofl!! phoney tony blair has been given an award for helping polish young people find work and settle in britain... while british youngsters are left on the scrapheap!! you get what you voted for in this country!! nuff said!!
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not referring to me G.J?[/p][/quote]Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.[/p][/quote]...no one really cares about 'nastymrtom' posting up her daily anti b.n.p. stuff on here... grown-ups can read between the lines of what's happening in this country without taking any notice of a resident troll!! rofl!! phoney tony blair has been given an award for helping polish young people find work and settle in britain... while british youngsters are left on the scrapheap!! you get what you voted for in this country!! nuff said!! rescaaffering oldey
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10:23am Thu 31 Jan 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

BarryNormanPoole wrote:
the wall wrote:
rescaaffering oldey wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.
"But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do" #You obviously do not keep up with the latest Uk news do you; Polish is the SECOND most spoken language in the Uk!? care to explain that then? Or are you suggesting Uk residents are now all speaking Polish as well? "Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job." How did YOU retain the job then? Lol "better qualification" maybe you are just making tea all day? you certainly have shown yourself not up to speed with the latest news from the Uk regarding the SECOND most popular language spoken in the Uk!
...indeed sir... what would you expect from a tea-boy!! rofl!!
[quote][p][bold]BarryNormanPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.[/p][/quote]But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.[/p][/quote]"But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do" #You obviously do not keep up with the latest Uk news do you; Polish is the SECOND most spoken language in the Uk!? care to explain that then? Or are you suggesting Uk residents are now all speaking Polish as well? "Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job." How did YOU retain the job then? Lol "better qualification" maybe you are just making tea all day? you certainly have shown yourself not up to speed with the latest news from the Uk regarding the SECOND most popular language spoken in the Uk![/p][/quote]...indeed sir... what would you expect from a tea-boy!! rofl!! rescaaffering oldey
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10:28am Thu 31 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

PaulErith wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
I hope you're not referring to me G.J?
Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.
Paul I agree with you. You have been posting on here long enough to recognise the BNP and their sockpuppets stirring up at any excuse.
Its racist morons like the BNP that make a sensible converstion/debate about immigration almost impossible.

Are you in favour of in or out of the EU ?
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not referring to me G.J?[/p][/quote]Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.[/p][/quote]Paul I agree with you. You have been posting on here long enough to recognise the BNP and their sockpuppets stirring up at any excuse. Its racist morons like the BNP that make a sensible converstion/debate about immigration almost impossible. Are you in favour of in or out of the EU ? Gypo.Joe
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10:39am Thu 31 Jan 13

the wall says...

BNP : http://metro.co.uk/2
013/01/30/bnp-leader
-nick-griffin-sell-y
our-scrap-metal-and-
eat-roadkill-3375395
/

LOL
BNP : http://metro.co.uk/2 013/01/30/bnp-leader -nick-griffin-sell-y our-scrap-metal-and- eat-roadkill-3375395 / LOL the wall
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11:04am Thu 31 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

I read that yesterday Wall. LOL.

Probably got Daley running around with that POS trailer he keeps in his front garden collecting scap. " old iron", "ole lumber" !! Spare a copper fer the BNP guv.
I read that yesterday Wall. LOL. Probably got Daley running around with that POS trailer he keeps in his front garden collecting scap. " old iron", "ole lumber" !! Spare a copper fer the BNP guv. Gypo.Joe
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11:06am Thu 31 Jan 13

the wall says...

Sorry about getting all Godwin law's but some of these BNP fan bois need some lessons in what the Polish have done for this country.


A total of 145 Polish fighter pilots served in the RAF during the Battle of Britain, making up the largest non-British contribution. By the end of the war, around 19,400 Poles were serving in the RAF both fight and bomber squadrons.
Sorry about getting all Godwin law's but some of these BNP fan bois need some lessons in what the Polish have done for this country. A total of 145 Polish fighter pilots served in the RAF during the Battle of Britain, making up the largest non-British contribution. By the end of the war, around 19,400 Poles were serving in the RAF both fight and bomber squadrons. the wall
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11:14am Thu 31 Jan 13

ksc says...

Well said PaulErith, I really don't want a poor, dishevelled, overcrowded country for my kid's, but without a racist bone in my body I, and everybody else knows that we will end up with a country just like that if we continue on this open door path, but what is really frightening is the fact that the decision is already made, we will go down that path, with the government feeling safe in the knowledge that anyone opposed to this "everybody is welcome" policy, is by definition a racist, and as all people ( including racists) would rather eat pins than be called a racist, the people in charge have carte blanche to do what they like with our once great country.

So sorry babies and children of the UK, when you grow up, move...try Europe it will probably be empty by then and it's quite pretty!
Well said PaulErith, I really don't want a poor, dishevelled, overcrowded country for my kid's, but without a racist bone in my body I, and everybody else knows that we will end up with a country just like that if we continue on this open door path, but what is really frightening is the fact that the decision is already made, we will go down that path, with the government feeling safe in the knowledge that anyone opposed to this "everybody is welcome" policy, is by definition a racist, and as all people ( including racists) would rather eat pins than be called a racist, the people in charge have carte blanche to do what they like with our once great country. So sorry babies and children of the UK, when you grow up, move...try Europe it will probably be empty by then and it's quite pretty! ksc
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11:19am Thu 31 Jan 13

Gypo.Joe says...

'They' conveniently forget that Wall, and all the commonwealth vets from around the world,( black, brown, white, yellow and all shades in between ) who fought for the freedom for them to hold their extreme racist points of view.
'They' conveniently forget that Wall, and all the commonwealth vets from around the world,( black, brown, white, yellow and all shades in between ) who fought for the freedom for them to hold their extreme racist points of view. Gypo.Joe
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11:40am Thu 31 Jan 13

the wall says...

'They' are now to busy scraping up road kill for dinner.

I have just thought about the department I work in, there's about 25 people made up from all over the world:
Spain - 1
South Africa - 2
Greek - 2
Polish - 1
Japan - 1
German - 1
Scotland - 2
Italy - 1
India - 3

These people above earn a wage between £30 - 55K. They pay tax and bring work to this country. Can't see what the problem is.
'They' are now to busy scraping up road kill for dinner. I have just thought about the department I work in, there's about 25 people made up from all over the world: Spain - 1 South Africa - 2 Greek - 2 Polish - 1 Japan - 1 German - 1 Scotland - 2 Italy - 1 India - 3 These people above earn a wage between £30 - 55K. They pay tax and bring work to this country. Can't see what the problem is. the wall
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12:50pm Thu 31 Jan 13

PaulErith says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.
I hope you're not referring to me G.J?
Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.
Paul I agree with you. You have been posting on here long enough to recognise the BNP and their sockpuppets stirring up at any excuse. Its racist morons like the BNP that make a sensible converstion/debate about immigration almost impossible. Are you in favour of in or out of the EU ?
True, I know there are some very racist people on here. I would say that I am not in favour on being in the EU. My main reasons are the open immigration of EU members and also some of the laws that have come from Brussells. However, I'm obviously no political expert. Like most people, my view is based on a couple of issues that are burning to me. If, from an economic perspertive, it was going to be seriously damaging to pull out, then this would obviously have to be considered.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh the BNP scum are about today. Run along now go back to the Daily Wail and red arrow and write cr@p.[/p][/quote]I hope you're not referring to me G.J?[/p][/quote]Why is it that if someone posts something about immigration, they are accused of being BNP or racist. I have lots of black friends, am not racist. Yet, I now strongly believe in shutting our borders. Being anti-immigration is not being racist. It's about recognising that our country is going to the wall. Do you not worry about what your kids or grandkids are going to do for work? I certainly do. I think the only option that is going to be left is to move abroad, but I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs when one is forced to leave their own country.[/p][/quote]Paul I agree with you. You have been posting on here long enough to recognise the BNP and their sockpuppets stirring up at any excuse. Its racist morons like the BNP that make a sensible converstion/debate about immigration almost impossible. Are you in favour of in or out of the EU ?[/p][/quote]True, I know there are some very racist people on here. I would say that I am not in favour on being in the EU. My main reasons are the open immigration of EU members and also some of the laws that have come from Brussells. However, I'm obviously no political expert. Like most people, my view is based on a couple of issues that are burning to me. If, from an economic perspertive, it was going to be seriously damaging to pull out, then this would obviously have to be considered. PaulErith
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7:02am Fri 1 Feb 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Why are posters now writing about the EU, when this article is about benefit cuts?

OK FTR I am quite happy being in the European Union, the referendum that I want to take part in is the one that gives a vote on seceding from Greater London. But I don't think there will be a vote on either.
Why are posters now writing about the EU, when this article is about benefit cuts? OK FTR I am quite happy being in the European Union, the referendum that I want to take part in is the one that gives a vote on seceding from Greater London. But I don't think there will be a vote on either. goldenbroomboy
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7:14am Fri 1 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Ignoring the immegration issue, many people would like a JOB that pays £25000

They're getting that for doing nothing
Ignoring the immegration issue, many people would like a JOB that pays £25000 They're getting that for doing nothing Marty1979
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9:06am Fri 1 Feb 13

Leanneday says...

Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
I agree if they stop letting foreign people in we would have enough houses to support our own culture and enough money, then maybe we would not be in so much debt with other country's they need to look after there own not everyone else's.
[quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]I agree if they stop letting foreign people in we would have enough houses to support our own culture and enough money, then maybe we would not be in so much debt with other country's they need to look after there own not everyone else's. Leanneday
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9:57am Fri 1 Feb 13

papaleigh says...

the wall wrote:
rescaaffering oldey wrote:
Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.
...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.
But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.
I see you made a complete **** of yourself on this one ,even when it was put to you that Polish is the 2nd most spoken language in Great Britain you still could not come up with a reply having realised that if the Polish have all gone home ,then your lies may have been believed by someone ,then hey ho ,the newspapers are full of the fact that the Polish have NOT all gone home as you claimed ,showing you to be nothing more than a liar on this site!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: THere are to many foreign poeple coming to this country that are taking the jobs of t hese young poeple we must stop this at once no one should be allowed in to my country from abroad unless they ca n prove they have secured a job and have proof of so mewhere to live before entering my country we are fed up with mps saying one thing and do another we need to start helping our own poeple.THank you.[/p][/quote]...indeed war hero!!... the merry-go-round of no joined-up thinking is with us again!!... anyone remember phoney tony's government saying only 13,000 east european citizens would come to the u.k. ? well over a million citizens turned-up!!... we got a 25% prison population of immigrants from abroad... so - o.k. the jails got full-up ( which blew nastymrtom's personal idiot theory that everyone allowed into the u.k. was/is being checked and vetted before entry - rofl!! ) so they allowed in more overseas builders... to build more prisons - for more overseas criminals to fill them up!! ( so called u.k big business couldn't even support british workers - but chose to undercut british workers wages by importing cheap labour!! ) it's all far too easy to knock british folk and accuse them of being lazy to find work when the fact is, young people leaving school are having to compete with massive numbers of east european migrants also looking for work... you can only squeeze so many bricks into a 'wall'... so get used to paying our young people to stay out of work - whilst even more overseas folk arrive here looking to 'better themselves!!'.[/p][/quote]But most the Polish have gone back home and most of them did the jobs the English didn't want to do. Also the four or five I have worked with over the last 5 years spoke better English and had better qualification than any of the English that applied for the job. We can go and work in their country if we want to. Indigenous UK Pensioner - Think you're getting confused a bit. As for these two in the above report. What are they dumb and dumber. Ben Martin, 20, says it is very difficult for him and his girlfriend to bring up their baby on benefits:...... So you had no job and you have gone and had a baby ! What for a free flat and some more money to be handed out. What's cheaper a pack of 3 or a baby? Next time put something on it. James Smith : You left school 3 years ago and have done nothing. All that time wasted on a free education. You want to be a chef you could of gone to college for free. You want to join the army so what's stopping you? Would be in favour of national service if it was brought back in. “I think they should bring back national service, for two years after school to make you a man." What utter rubbish! I think there is another reason why these two don't have a job......it's because they are thick.[/p][/quote]I see you made a complete **** of yourself on this one ,even when it was put to you that Polish is the 2nd most spoken language in Great Britain you still could not come up with a reply having realised that if the Polish have all gone home ,then your lies may have been believed by someone ,then hey ho ,the newspapers are full of the fact that the Polish have NOT all gone home as you claimed ,showing you to be nothing more than a liar on this site! papaleigh
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10:01am Fri 1 Feb 13

papaleigh says...

the wall wrote:
'They' are now to busy scraping up road kill for dinner. I have just thought about the department I work in, there's about 25 people made up from all over the world: Spain - 1 South Africa - 2 Greek - 2 Polish - 1 Japan - 1 German - 1 Scotland - 2 Italy - 1 India - 3 These people above earn a wage between £30 - 55K. They pay tax and bring work to this country. Can't see what the problem is.
You have already been caught out lying on this one by claiming all the Polish had gone home! ,liar ,liar, pants on fire! never trust anything a regular liar says on here once it has been proven that they have lied! Hahha
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: 'They' are now to busy scraping up road kill for dinner. I have just thought about the department I work in, there's about 25 people made up from all over the world: Spain - 1 South Africa - 2 Greek - 2 Polish - 1 Japan - 1 German - 1 Scotland - 2 Italy - 1 India - 3 These people above earn a wage between £30 - 55K. They pay tax and bring work to this country. Can't see what the problem is.[/p][/quote]You have already been caught out lying on this one by claiming all the Polish had gone home! ,liar ,liar, pants on fire! never trust anything a regular liar says on here once it has been proven that they have lied! Hahha papaleigh
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11:12am Fri 1 Feb 13

Normal Person! says...

Myself and my husband are bringing up 2 children, I gave up my job to bring them up and we live off my husbands wages, after deductions he brings home less than £500 per week and we are managing!! People who say it will lead to crime need to think a little harder about what they could do to earn money, there are jobs out there you just need to make more effort to find one! Put your time and time and effort into improving your job prospects instead of thinking about crime, turning to crime should not even be an option! What makes anyone think it is ok to steal from another, myself and my family were not born into money, we all WORKED HARD to have what we've got, even though apparently we haven't got as much as other people on benefits!!
Myself and my husband are bringing up 2 children, I gave up my job to bring them up and we live off my husbands wages, after deductions he brings home less than £500 per week and we are managing!! People who say it will lead to crime need to think a little harder about what they could do to earn money, there are jobs out there you just need to make more effort to find one! Put your time and time and effort into improving your job prospects instead of thinking about crime, turning to crime should not even be an option! What makes anyone think it is ok to steal from another, myself and my family were not born into money, we all WORKED HARD to have what we've got, even though apparently we haven't got as much as other people on benefits!! Normal Person!
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6:01pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Marty1979 says...

Heard a couple of chavs (sorry, unemployed females) in a shop with an assortment of small children - one was complaining her signing on time has been changed to 11.00

How unfair, once every couple of weeks she has to get up before midday
Heard a couple of chavs (sorry, unemployed females) in a shop with an assortment of small children - one was complaining her signing on time has been changed to 11.00 How unfair, once every couple of weeks she has to get up before midday Marty1979
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4:00pm Sun 3 Feb 13

2bobsworth says...

look at em moanin they get £56 a week!! i used to get £74 a fortnight, im sure they've always got fags,cannibis,credit on thier i-phones,and the usual can of lager in thier hands, **** dossers dont wana work coz they dont have too

get house or flat,probably got ps3,sky tv, they do alright, if i didnt have kids id chuck my job in tomora,it dont pay to work but it duz to sit on ya arse n watch jeremy kyle evryday!!!!
look at em moanin they get £56 a week!! i used to get £74 a fortnight, im sure they've always got fags,cannibis,credit on thier i-phones,and the usual can of lager in thier hands, **** dossers dont wana work coz they dont have too get house or flat,probably got ps3,sky tv, they do alright, if i didnt have kids id chuck my job in tomora,it dont pay to work but it duz to sit on ya arse n watch jeremy kyle evryday!!!! 2bobsworth
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10:54am Mon 4 Feb 13

CaptainJustice says...

Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries?
And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!!
Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!!
Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!! CaptainJustice
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11:05am Mon 4 Feb 13

Locked & Loaded says...

CaptainJustice wrote:
Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!!
Yus mate but its only 11Bill a year! and Brits are getting the pooey end of the stick nar so use just have to lump it innit but the good news is mr erastus piggot and the mr the wall can legally get hitched in church when them mp,s vote for gay marriage in church so its not all bad news is it en gypo joe is gonner be best man there too so dont forget de ring joe lol joe likes putting the ring in a safe place like the little coin pocket in his strides and keeps fingering the ring ta make sure its still there hehe
[quote][p][bold]CaptainJustice[/bold] wrote: Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!![/p][/quote]Yus mate but its only 11Bill a year! and Brits are getting the pooey end of the stick nar so use just have to lump it innit but the good news is mr erastus piggot and the mr the wall can legally get hitched in church when them mp,s vote for gay marriage in church so its not all bad news is it en gypo joe is gonner be best man there too so dont forget de ring joe lol joe likes putting the ring in a safe place like the little coin pocket in his strides and keeps fingering the ring ta make sure its still there hehe Locked & Loaded
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11:05am Mon 4 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

CaptainJustice wrote:
Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries?
And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!!
Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!!
The Daily Mail ......ROFLMAO.

I bet you read the Beano too don't ya.
[quote][p][bold]CaptainJustice[/bold] wrote: Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!![/p][/quote]The Daily Mail ......ROFLMAO. I bet you read the Beano too don't ya. Gypo.Joe
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11:33am Mon 4 Feb 13

Mike Honcho says...

Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?
Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ? Mike Honcho
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11:38am Mon 4 Feb 13

Tip-Top says...

Mike Honcho wrote:
Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?
I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife!
[quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?[/p][/quote]I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife! Tip-Top
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11:43am Mon 4 Feb 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

...suggest we all get over on the wail to leave some hard hitting comments and green arrow like minded comments and red arrow the extremist filth like nastymrtom!! rofl!! also don't forget 'europes most wanted' are all living in blighty... so we even allow the worst of the worst of eropes criminals to come here now!!... the mails gone up to sixty pence a day - same price as the shopper ( where sold!! as if!! rofl!! ) as it happens... it should be renamed just the 'shopper' cos out of 86 pages last week - it only had seven pages of 'news' oh my sides!!...it's full-up with millions of adverts!! ...we all know now how they took a certain political party's dosh for adverts previously... poor old nastymrtom cutting and pasting adverts all day long!! not forgetting all those horrid sex adverts!! rof...rof...rofl!! laters.
...suggest we all get over on the wail to leave some hard hitting comments and green arrow like minded comments and red arrow the extremist filth like nastymrtom!! rofl!! also don't forget 'europes most wanted' are all living in blighty... so we even allow the worst of the worst of eropes criminals to come here now!!... the mails gone up to sixty pence a day - same price as the shopper ( where sold!! as if!! rofl!! ) as it happens... it should be renamed just the 'shopper' cos out of 86 pages last week - it only had seven pages of 'news' oh my sides!!...it's full-up with millions of adverts!! ...we all know now how they took a certain political party's dosh for adverts previously... poor old nastymrtom cutting and pasting adverts all day long!! not forgetting all those horrid sex adverts!! rof...rof...rofl!! laters. rescaaffering oldey
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11:45am Mon 4 Feb 13

rescaaffering oldey says...

ron's poem about erastus piggott is a belter!! folk can google it!! :)
ron's poem about erastus piggott is a belter!! folk can google it!! :) rescaaffering oldey
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11:48am Mon 4 Feb 13

Mike Honcho says...

Tip-Top wrote:
Mike Honcho wrote:
Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?
I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife!
Really ?? A double act.
[quote][p][bold]Tip-Top[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?[/p][/quote]I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife![/p][/quote]Really ?? A double act. Mike Honcho
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11:59am Mon 4 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

rescaaffering oldey wrote:
ron's poem about erastus piggott is a belter!! folk can google it!! :)
Do run along Karl you imbecile, there's a good boy.
Tell Doncaster to have a wash this week, he looks like an old paraffin.
[quote][p][bold]rescaaffering oldey[/bold] wrote: ron's poem about erastus piggott is a belter!! folk can google it!! :)[/p][/quote]Do run along Karl you imbecile, there's a good boy. Tell Doncaster to have a wash this week, he looks like an old paraffin. Gypo.Joe
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12:11pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Tip-Top says...

Mike Honcho wrote:
Tip-Top wrote:
Mike Honcho wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?
I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife!
Really ?? A double act.
Yes, but we’re not Samaritans!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tip-Top[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?[/p][/quote]I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife![/p][/quote]Really ?? A double act.[/p][/quote]Yes, but we’re not Samaritans!!! Tip-Top
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12:18pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Mike Honcho says...

Tip-Top wrote:
Mike Honcho wrote:
Tip-Top wrote:
Mike Honcho wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?
I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife!
Really ?? A double act.
Yes, but we’re not Samaritans!!!
Shame you aren't the Samaritans as it looks like there's more than a few on here could do with your help if you were.
[quote][p][bold]Tip-Top[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tip-Top[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Honcho[/bold] wrote: Who the F is this Erastus Piggot ?[/p][/quote]I'm Erastus Piggot and so is my wife![/p][/quote]Really ?? A double act.[/p][/quote]Yes, but we’re not Samaritans!!![/p][/quote]Shame you aren't the Samaritans as it looks like there's more than a few on here could do with your help if you were. Mike Honcho
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12:30pm Mon 4 Feb 13

PaulErith says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
CaptainJustice wrote: Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!!
The Daily Mail ......ROFLMAO. I bet you read the Beano too don't ya.
Whether it's the Daily Mail or any other news source, the reports are around the fact that 0.7% of British gross domestic product is being given in foreign aid. I don't see how we can justify this at this current time. If the economy is booming and everything's great, then obviously we should do as much as possible to help poor countries. However, we aren't in that position. I give money to charity each month out of wage, but that's because I can afford to do so. If my circumstances changed, then these contributions would stop.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaptainJustice[/bold] wrote: Front page of the Daily Mail today says British tax payers are paying millions for foreign born kids in other european countries? And Dave Cameron is pledging to INCREASE the foreign aid budget from £8billion to £11billion!!! Other countries are CUTTING their foreign budgets packages and Cameron says "we should all be proud in Britain" of what he is doing!!![/p][/quote]The Daily Mail ......ROFLMAO. I bet you read the Beano too don't ya.[/p][/quote]Whether it's the Daily Mail or any other news source, the reports are around the fact that 0.7% of British gross domestic product is being given in foreign aid. I don't see how we can justify this at this current time. If the economy is booming and everything's great, then obviously we should do as much as possible to help poor countries. However, we aren't in that position. I give money to charity each month out of wage, but that's because I can afford to do so. If my circumstances changed, then these contributions would stop. PaulErith
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12:33pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Tip-Top says...

I understand your concerns Mike and I tend to agree. Although I’m not trained in the art of being a Samaritan, I like to think I could offer unofficial guidance and hope to others……whilst hitchhiking down Welling high street, I came across this strange chap with a slightly aggressive limp who provided me with a whole life changing piece of advice, especially when it comes to being let down by Politicians……..s
imply place a monster munch in your mouth (roast beef or pickled onion, but not the flamin’ hot ones) and suck them until ALL the flavour has gone….proceed to do this for the entire bag. Trust me people, it’ll make you forget about all your woes and more importantly, you won’t EVER believe what a Politician says!!!!

…here to help :o)

® This is a registered trademark of Tip-Top Advisory Matters……”Givi
ng hope to others”
I understand your concerns Mike and I tend to agree. Although I’m not trained in the art of being a Samaritan, I like to think I could offer unofficial guidance and hope to others……whilst hitchhiking down Welling high street, I came across this strange chap with a slightly aggressive limp who provided me with a whole life changing piece of advice, especially when it comes to being let down by Politicians……..s imply place a monster munch in your mouth (roast beef or pickled onion, but not the flamin’ hot ones) and suck them until ALL the flavour has gone….proceed to do this for the entire bag. Trust me people, it’ll make you forget about all your woes and more importantly, you won’t EVER believe what a Politician says!!!! …here to help :o) ® This is a registered trademark of Tip-Top Advisory Matters……”Givi ng hope to others” Tip-Top
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1:54pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Mike Honcho says...

Many thanks Tip Top for that valued information. Do you and the good lady give out advice on matters of a sexual nature at all ? Not for me of course but a very good friend who posed naked for a ladies magazine.
Many thanks Tip Top for that valued information. Do you and the good lady give out advice on matters of a sexual nature at all ? Not for me of course but a very good friend who posed naked for a ladies magazine. Mike Honcho
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1:59pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Tip-Top says...

We do indeed Mike and it’s on every third Wednesday of each calendar month.

Seeing as you have been so courteous with your enquiry, I shall assist you outside of our usual surgery hours………may I suggest that your “friend” only poses naked in a milder climate!
We do indeed Mike and it’s on every third Wednesday of each calendar month. Seeing as you have been so courteous with your enquiry, I shall assist you outside of our usual surgery hours………may I suggest that your “friend” only poses naked in a milder climate! Tip-Top
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9:31pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Beckenham Chris says...

Dossers and Pikies if you ask me.
Dossers and Pikies if you ask me. Beckenham Chris
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11:12am Tue 5 Feb 13

Gypo.Joe says...

I'm Erastus Piggott on Tuesdays and Thursdays, OK .

I try to be Tom on Wednesdays.

The voices in my head ( when I have my tin foil cap on ) tell me I'm Spartacus.

thAnK yOu
I'm Erastus Piggott on Tuesdays and Thursdays, OK . I try to be Tom on Wednesdays. The voices in my head ( when I have my tin foil cap on ) tell me I'm Spartacus. thAnK yOu Gypo.Joe
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