News Shopper campaigning to save south London police stations

AN AREA of London bigger than Liechtenstein could be left with no police stations open to the public at night.

News Shopper is joining forces with its sister newspapers across south London, to ask the Mayor, Boris Johnson, to veto Met police plans to expose an approximately 75 square mile area to being without an evening police station.

This huge area comprises Forest Hill, Sydenham, Beckenham, and Catford, Mitcham, Tooting, Earlsfield, Balham, Streatham, Thornton Heath, Norbury, Norwood and Dulwich.

Plans revealed this month, by Mr Johnson’s office for policing and crime, detailed how each London borough would only have one 24-hour police station, with the exception of Westminster.

Of the 15 police stations currently within the 75 sq mile zone, six will be downgraded from 24-hours into daytime only, while nine will be closed to the public altogether.

In Bromley, plans are in place to close front desks at Orpington and Biggin Hill.

This is part of the Met’s overall target of £514m savings by 2015 as detailed in Boris Johnson’s draft Police and Crime Plan.

If this proposal is approved Biggin Hill Community Police Office will no longer be open for two hours every week day for people to report crime.

Instead the Met is said to be in discussions with Bromley Council about having a PCSO stationed at the town’s swimming pool and library complex for an hour a week.

And the Met is also talking to Bromley Council about a suitable location for people to visit to report crime if Orpington police station is closed and sold.

Speaking after the announcement was made Bromley’s borough commander Chief Superintendent Steph Roberts said: “Public access to policing services has changed considerably in recent years.

“The introduction of the 101 non-emergency number and our ability to diary appointments for members of the public, coupled with internet access, means greater flexibility to access our services.

“The impact is that there has been a 20% decrease in the number of crimes reported to front counters in four years.

“The MPS is considering replacing under-used front counters across London with new contact points - either part of our estate, somewhere shared with partners or other public places - which would increase the amount of face-to-face contact we have with the public.

“The front counters at Orpington and Biggin Hill, which currently open for a combined total of 16 hours a week, are the two we propose to close in the borough of Bromley.

“We are looking at replacing them with new contact points in Biggin Hill Library and The Walnuts.

“Bromley Police Station will continue to provide access for the public 24 hours a day, seven days a week."

Boris Johnson and the Met’s Commissioner, Bernard Hogan-Howe, intend to sign off on the final plan before April and roll out the changes by the 2016/17 financial year.

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1:23pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Eagles_Man says...

So, do you want police on the streets, or twiddling their thumbs behind a front desk? These days, you can't have it both ways.
So, do you want police on the streets, or twiddling their thumbs behind a front desk? These days, you can't have it both ways. Eagles_Man

2:27pm Sun 27 Jan 13

jaded1 says...

Is Liechenstein a big country?
Is Liechenstein a big country? jaded1

3:12pm Sun 27 Jan 13

Bob Downondiss says...

jaded1 wrote:
Is Liechenstein a big country?
Nearly as big as Greater Londonistan.
[quote][p][bold]jaded1[/bold] wrote: Is Liechenstein a big country?[/p][/quote]Nearly as big as Greater Londonistan. Bob Downondiss

9:57am Mon 28 Jan 13

ksc says...

Eagles_Man wrote:
So, do you want police on the streets, or twiddling their thumbs behind a front desk? These days, you can't have it both ways.
Why cant you have it both ways, you pay the same tax (actually you pay quite a bit more) as you did twenty years ago, so if we get less police stations do we all pay less tax, or maybe get a refund for services we've paid for over the years and not got, with the millions of people coming from abroad to live work and pay tax here, should there not be a lot more money to play about with, if yes, then why are we loosing any services, if no, then why aren't our government planners stopping the people coming to our country and for some reason not contributing financially enough to make it worth while for the UK residence.
[quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: So, do you want police on the streets, or twiddling their thumbs behind a front desk? These days, you can't have it both ways.[/p][/quote]Why cant you have it both ways, you pay the same tax (actually you pay quite a bit more) as you did twenty years ago, so if we get less police stations do we all pay less tax, or maybe get a refund for services we've paid for over the years and not got, with the millions of people coming from abroad to live work and pay tax here, should there not be a lot more money to play about with, if yes, then why are we loosing any services, if no, then why aren't our government planners stopping the people coming to our country and for some reason not contributing financially enough to make it worth while for the UK residence. ksc

11:09am Mon 28 Jan 13

RoisinR says...

In contrast to Thatcher this lot of Tories are attacking & destroying ALL public services including the Police & the army.
Thus making our streets & borders less safe.
This is an ideological & politically motivated choice that is resulting in the rundown & privatisation of our NHS & council services that the poorest & most vulnerable rely on..
There is plenty of money in the system but the private sector(great heroes?) including the banks & large corporartions are sitting on trillions of our money(added to by quantative easing or printing money as the Tories love doing as they did in the 70s) .
And locally qwe have the scandal of Bromley Cllrs being the 3 rd highest paid in London(behind Wandsworth & Croydon)& the UK with many Cllrs getting over 20k plus pension!! . Over the past few years Bromley Tories have voted themselves millions of pounds of pay rises whilst presiding over poor & diminishing local services & low pay in the work force.
roken Britain? Broken Bromley more like
In contrast to Thatcher this lot of Tories are attacking & destroying ALL public services including the Police & the army. Thus making our streets & borders less safe. This is an ideological & politically motivated choice that is resulting in the rundown & privatisation of our NHS & council services that the poorest & most vulnerable rely on.. There is plenty of money in the system but the private sector(great heroes?) including the banks & large corporartions are sitting on trillions of our money(added to by quantative easing or printing money as the Tories love doing as they did in the 70s) . And locally qwe have the scandal of Bromley Cllrs being the 3 rd highest paid in London(behind Wandsworth & Croydon)& the UK with many Cllrs getting over 20k plus pension!! . Over the past few years Bromley Tories have voted themselves millions of pounds of pay rises whilst presiding over poor & diminishing local services & low pay in the work force. roken Britain? Broken Bromley more like RoisinR

7:45pm Mon 28 Jan 13

RoisinR says...

And then we have Tory Bromley Council proposing to put up the Council Tax by 1%

What will that pay towards?
Oh yes their excessive & bloated benefits & allowances.
Bromley Tories like to compare themselves with Kent when it comes to cutting services & downgrading staff pay & conditions.
Cllrs in Sevenoaks get £4,200 & in Tonridge £5,000.
And then we have Tory Bromley Council proposing to put up the Council Tax by 1% What will that pay towards? Oh yes their excessive & bloated benefits & allowances. Bromley Tories like to compare themselves with Kent when it comes to cutting services & downgrading staff pay & conditions. Cllrs in Sevenoaks get £4,200 & in Tonridge £5,000. RoisinR

10:30am Tue 29 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

RoisinR wrote:
And then we have Tory Bromley Council proposing to put up the Council Tax by 1% What will that pay towards? Oh yes their excessive & bloated benefits & allowances. Bromley Tories like to compare themselves with Kent when it comes to cutting services & downgrading staff pay & conditions. Cllrs in Sevenoaks get £4,200 & in Tonridge £5,000.
Bromley Tories (apart from Dear Stephen) like to think they are Kentish, it's one of the things that I like about them.

As for "London" I really don't care what happens in London. I really really don't.
[quote][p][bold]RoisinR[/bold] wrote: And then we have Tory Bromley Council proposing to put up the Council Tax by 1% What will that pay towards? Oh yes their excessive & bloated benefits & allowances. Bromley Tories like to compare themselves with Kent when it comes to cutting services & downgrading staff pay & conditions. Cllrs in Sevenoaks get £4,200 & in Tonridge £5,000.[/p][/quote]Bromley Tories (apart from Dear Stephen) like to think they are Kentish, it's one of the things that I like about them. As for "London" I really don't care what happens in London. I really really don't. goldenbroomboy

9:38pm Tue 29 Jan 13

RoisinR says...

Whilst its great that the NS is going to campaign to save our local Police Stations from the unwarranted & unjustifiable attacks by this Govt upon our brave & under appreciated Police force (taking £4k off the salary of a newly joined PC down to £19k)who keep us safe on a daily basis.
I do wonder why(unlike the Lewisham NS) our local papers are unwilling or unable to campaign to Save our Local hospitals?
Under the crazy & unevidenced conclusions of the Mr Kershaw, TSA we stand to lose not only access to Childrens & Adults A&E, as well as Maternity services at Lewisham but also the likely closure of Beckenham Beacon(recently refurbished at public cost of 30m), the closure of Orpington Hospital with no site or planning made for the replacement Health Centre.
A&E at the PRU is under threat if Kings or the privateers take it over.
That leaves QEH ,Woolwich which is overstretched(regula
rly turning patients away from A&E & lacks the facilities & specialisms to cope NOW yet alone if they have to deal with Lewisham A&E patients as well.
They also have to find over £10m worth of cuts as well as the increased workload.
Clearly, the future inadequare health care for us in SE London is of little interest to the local Tory MPs & cllrs judging by their embarrassed silence throughout this fiasco(& remind me why are we paying them for & how much?). Compare that with the tremendous Lewisham campaign which had 25k from the whole community marching in support of their vital hospital last Saturday.
Whilst its great that the NS is going to campaign to save our local Police Stations from the unwarranted & unjustifiable attacks by this Govt upon our brave & under appreciated Police force (taking £4k off the salary of a newly joined PC down to £19k)who keep us safe on a daily basis. I do wonder why(unlike the Lewisham NS) our local papers are unwilling or unable to campaign to Save our Local hospitals? Under the crazy & unevidenced conclusions of the Mr Kershaw, TSA we stand to lose not only access to Childrens & Adults A&E, as well as Maternity services at Lewisham but also the likely closure of Beckenham Beacon(recently refurbished at public cost of 30m), the closure of Orpington Hospital with no site or planning made for the replacement Health Centre. A&E at the PRU is under threat if Kings or the privateers take it over. That leaves QEH ,Woolwich which is overstretched(regula rly turning patients away from A&E & lacks the facilities & specialisms to cope NOW yet alone if they have to deal with Lewisham A&E patients as well. They also have to find over £10m worth of cuts as well as the increased workload. Clearly, the future inadequare health care for us in SE London is of little interest to the local Tory MPs & cllrs judging by their embarrassed silence throughout this fiasco(& remind me why are we paying them for & how much?). Compare that with the tremendous Lewisham campaign which had 25k from the whole community marching in support of their vital hospital last Saturday. RoisinR

8:16am Wed 30 Jan 13

goldenbroomboy says...

Roisin, TBH it's a question of one campaign at a time. Orpington is over, and we lost, although I am sure that I am not alone in thinking that it was a battle that was unwinnable. I do like to think that we made the enemy work for their money.

As regards Beckenham, the battle has not yet really begun, to his credit Bob Stewart has given his commitment to retaining the hospital, and I look forward to seeing what action he will take. I agree that Beckenham's Tory councillors seem unacceptably silent on this matter, and I am puzzled as to why they have not made any statements regarding this issue.

PRU is a different kettle of fish entirely, which I am sure we will be debating in the coming months.
Roisin, TBH it's a question of one campaign at a time. Orpington is over, and we lost, although I am sure that I am not alone in thinking that it was a battle that was unwinnable. I do like to think that we made the enemy work for their money. As regards Beckenham, the battle has not yet really begun, to his credit Bob Stewart has given his commitment to retaining the hospital, and I look forward to seeing what action he will take. I agree that Beckenham's Tory councillors seem unacceptably silent on this matter, and I am puzzled as to why they have not made any statements regarding this issue. PRU is a different kettle of fish entirely, which I am sure we will be debating in the coming months. goldenbroomboy

9:03am Wed 30 Jan 13

Indigenous UK Pensioner says...

IN my younger days there was a police officer on patrol waiting to assist the public now with more criminal thug around we need more polic e station more police and more jails and we have thugs from abroad hear now so to cut stations or officers is not we want in my country.THank you.
IN my younger days there was a police officer on patrol waiting to assist the public now with more criminal thug around we need more polic e station more police and more jails and we have thugs from abroad hear now so to cut stations or officers is not we want in my country.THank you. Indigenous UK Pensioner

10:17am Wed 30 Jan 13

miss shadesnshorts says...

Indigenous UK Pensioner wrote:
IN my younger days there was a police officer on patrol waiting to assist the public now with more criminal thug around we need more polic e station more police and more jails and we have thugs from abroad hear now so to cut stations or officers is not we want in my country.THank you.
i know hun it really is terrible now aint it x
[quote][p][bold]Indigenous UK Pensioner[/bold] wrote: IN my younger days there was a police officer on patrol waiting to assist the public now with more criminal thug around we need more polic e station more police and more jails and we have thugs from abroad hear now so to cut stations or officers is not we want in my country.THank you.[/p][/quote]i know hun it really is terrible now aint it x miss shadesnshorts

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