Southeastern train delays cause more travel chaos for customers (From News Shopper)

Glad I bought a scooter in November.

Like I said before, if you can do it, bus and tube it into work. Most people in Bexley, Lewishham and Greenwich should be able to get to Lewisham DLR, Greenwich/Cutty Sark DLR, North Greenwich and New Cross/ New Cross Gate underground stations in one bus journey.

It will save you money on your travel, and actually get you to work unlike the Southeastern services....

Vote with your feet, and Southeastern might start listening.

SidcupResident is absolutely correct, I gave up on South Eastern Trains many years ago and travelled every day by bus to Lewisham and DLR / Tube. If you are prepared to allow yourself a bit extra time, you can save on the hassel and extortionate fares. If more people took definite action such as this instead of moaning and bleating every time something goes wrong on the trains, or every time the fares increase, then the train companies would have to listen

Len Kivingstone wrote:
SidcupResident is absolutely correct, I gave up on South Eastern Trains many years ago and travelled every day by bus to Lewisham and DLR / Tube. If you are prepared to allow yourself a bit extra time, you can save on the hassel and extortionate fares. If more people took definite action such as this instead of moaning and bleating every time something goes wrong on the trains, or every time the fares increase, then the train companies would have to listen

Thanks Len!

Plus although the journey may take a bit longer, instead of waiting for ages in the freezing cold for a delayed train that may never come, the tube and DLR trains come every 2-3 minutes.

So your waiting times will be reduced significantly as well.

2k a year to get a **** service!! .. taking us for mugs!

I was on the train immediately behind the broken-down train. We had to tow the defective train back to Lee, where we were all told to get off. Then we waited another twenty minutes for a train to London. I was an hour and a half late for work. The driver of the first train kept us informed as to what was going on, but station staff weren't as aware.
Problem is - there isn't a viable alternative to Southeastern for us commuters. If there were - we would take it!

A spokesperson for Southeastern said: "We’re sorry that passengers were delayed on their journey into London this morning.

What about all the other mornings over the last 4 weeks?

I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

"We encourage any passengers who were delayed by more than 30 minutes to claim for compensation by contacting our Customer Services or pick up a form from any manned station."

It's interesting to note that compensation will be paid in National Rail Vouchers (as stated on the claim form).

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

And so the pain continues.....half an hour late into Waterloo East this morning (Wednesday)

As I'm the only one in my office that uses Southeastern, I dont think anyone quite believes me.

"But how can they be late everyday? Surely someone has to do something about it?" I was asked this morning.

Summed it up pretty well, I thought.

Doesnt matter how much people suggest taking different routes to work rather than using South Eastern, the answer would in the end just be for South Eastern to provide an acceptable service at an acceptable cost.

We get ripped off and we get bombarded with the same excuses time after time. If they are having these problems on a regular basis - do something about it.

Congestion outside London Bridge - do something to avoid there being too many trains trying to get on to a platform - its not rocket science!

At the end of the day they blatantly dont really give a toss about their customers because they know the majority of people will still have to use the service no matter what!

Dartbored wrote:
And so the pain continues.....half an hour late into Waterloo East this morning (Wednesday) As I'm the only one in my office that uses Southeastern, I dont think anyone quite believes me. "But how can they be late everyday? Surely someone has to do something about it?" I was asked this morning. Summed it up pretty well, I thought.

Luckily I have quite a few colleagues who come in from Kent, so this morning we were all late in. Just over two hours today from Bexleyheath to get in the office in the City!

Be grateful for small mercies Paul - people in my office think I just like having a lay in!

I pogo stick it from Welling…the Shooters Hill climb takes some stamina, but going down the other side is a magical feeling!

Dartbored wrote:
Be grateful for small mercies Paul - people in my office think I just like having a lay in!

The thing is, sometimes I think I'd be better just to have a lay in, and then get the train after the main rush hour. Probably still get in about the same time.

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus
routes.net/times/132
.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus

routes.net/times/132

.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

Sorry your wrong. Having used this service a few times when the trains are not running to the timetable. I also work with someone who lives in Blackfen and gets the bus to Eltham station. They once stayed on the bus to Greenwich and it took 2 hours. I done it the other week took nearly one hour from Eltham Station. Traffic jam on the A2. Also what happens when you get to Greenwich and the jubilee line isn't working or there are traffic jams like most morning. Tell me does the bus sprout wings and fly?

May I suggest:
A) Your advice is not the world beating problem solver you are making it out to be. I didn't ask for your advice, you decided to give it and now you got the hump because someone as pulled you up on it. So wind you neck in.

B) After the Rochester Way it turns right into the Dover patrol, it then goes over the sun in the sands roundabout straight into a traffic jam for the tunnel. crawls along until the exit. Many people can't get on this bus from Well Hall because of over crowding.

C) " I can't give you compensation" But you claim I will get to work on time. Back peddling now are we. Are you Boris?

So your advice is not so great after all pal. maybe check some of your own facts!

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus


routes.net/times/132


.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

Sorry your wrong. Having used this service a few times when the trains are not running to the timetable. I also work with someone who lives in Blackfen and gets the bus to Eltham station. They once stayed on the bus to Greenwich and it took 2 hours. I done it the other week took nearly one hour from Eltham Station. Traffic jam on the A2. Also what happens when you get to Greenwich and the jubilee line isn't working or there are traffic jams like most morning. Tell me does the bus sprout wings and fly?

May I suggest:
A) Your advice is not the world beating problem solver you are making it out to be. I didn't ask for your advice, you decided to give it and now you got the hump because someone as pulled you up on it. So wind you neck in.

B) After the Rochester Way it turns right into the Dover patrol, it then goes over the sun in the sands roundabout straight into a traffic jam for the tunnel. crawls along until the exit. Many people can't get on this bus from Well Hall because of over crowding.

C) " I can't give you compensation" But you claim I will get to work on time. Back peddling now are we. Are you Boris?

So your advice is not so great after all pal. maybe check some of your own facts!

Well I've just provided alternatives. I didn't have to. Take them or leave them.

Moan all you like about Southeastern like other have for years but nothing will change.

So you're left with several options;

*remain the grumpy southeastern commuter.

*Drive or,

*Just don't work in London.

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus



routes.net/times/132



.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

Sorry your wrong. Having used this service a few times when the trains are not running to the timetable. I also work with someone who lives in Blackfen and gets the bus to Eltham station. They once stayed on the bus to Greenwich and it took 2 hours. I done it the other week took nearly one hour from Eltham Station. Traffic jam on the A2. Also what happens when you get to Greenwich and the jubilee line isn't working or there are traffic jams like most morning. Tell me does the bus sprout wings and fly?

May I suggest:
A) Your advice is not the world beating problem solver you are making it out to be. I didn't ask for your advice, you decided to give it and now you got the hump because someone as pulled you up on it. So wind you neck in.

B) After the Rochester Way it turns right into the Dover patrol, it then goes over the sun in the sands roundabout straight into a traffic jam for the tunnel. crawls along until the exit. Many people can't get on this bus from Well Hall because of over crowding.

C) " I can't give you compensation" But you claim I will get to work on time. Back peddling now are we. Are you Boris?

So your advice is not so great after all pal. maybe check some of your own facts!

Well I've just provided alternatives. I didn't have to. Take them or leave them.

Moan all you like about Southeastern like other have for years but nothing will change.

So you're left with several options;

*remain the grumpy southeastern commuter.

*Drive or,

*Just don't work in London.

Spot on comment or as my old Mum would say to all you commuters, " sh1t or get off the pot "

Gypo.Joe wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus




routes.net/times/132




.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

Sorry your wrong. Having used this service a few times when the trains are not running to the timetable. I also work with someone who lives in Blackfen and gets the bus to Eltham station. They once stayed on the bus to Greenwich and it took 2 hours. I done it the other week took nearly one hour from Eltham Station. Traffic jam on the A2. Also what happens when you get to Greenwich and the jubilee line isn't working or there are traffic jams like most morning. Tell me does the bus sprout wings and fly?

May I suggest:
A) Your advice is not the world beating problem solver you are making it out to be. I didn't ask for your advice, you decided to give it and now you got the hump because someone as pulled you up on it. So wind you neck in.

B) After the Rochester Way it turns right into the Dover patrol, it then goes over the sun in the sands roundabout straight into a traffic jam for the tunnel. crawls along until the exit. Many people can't get on this bus from Well Hall because of over crowding.

C) " I can't give you compensation" But you claim I will get to work on time. Back peddling now are we. Are you Boris?

So your advice is not so great after all pal. maybe check some of your own facts!

Well I've just provided alternatives. I didn't have to. Take them or leave them.

Moan all you like about Southeastern like other have for years but nothing will change.

So you're left with several options;

*remain the grumpy southeastern commuter.

*Drive or,

*Just don't work in London.

Spot on comment or as my old Mum would say to all you commuters, " sh1t or get off the pot "

As Southeastern have removed the toilets from some of their newish trains, even that isn't an option ;-)

Dartbored wrote:

Gypo.Joe wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

the wall wrote:

SidcupResident wrote:

KT12345 wrote:
I was on the 07.41 from Bexley this am - got to L Bridge 09.20 - what a service! Sorry how much of an increase in fares am I looking at next year? What a joke!

Just get a 132 from Bexley village (by Bexley station) to North Greenwich then Jubilee line.

You only need a zone 1-2 travelcard.

You'll get to work on time and you'll save at least £500 a year.!

Have you ever done that journey in the morning?...... It takes hours!

Why would you only need zones 1 - 2 if you're travaling from Bexley?

You state that 'You'll get to work on time ' Can you promise that? If I don't get to work on time are you going to pay me compo...... No didn't think you would. Wind your neck in and stop make such stupid statements.

Yes, I have made that journey, and the 132 goes onto the A2 after Rochester Way straight to Greenwich Peninsula. So it gets to North Greenwich quite quickly (under an hour from Bexley). Not 'hours' as you exaggerate.

132 timetable: http://www.londonbus





routes.net/times/132





.pdf

As for travelcards, if you have a travel which cover zones 1,2 or 3 you can get a bus in any London zone. So a zone 1-2 travelcard covering a tube journey from North Greenwich to Central London, will allow you to get a bus from in any of the London Zones, including Bexley.

I can't give you compensation but TFL can similarly to Southeastern.

May I suggest:

A) Be grateful for any advice given and,

B) Check the facts before you start frothing at the mouth and start criticising people for giving incorrect advice, when the advice is in fact correct.


May I yet again suggest people actually check the Transport For London website (www.TFL.gov.uk) for alternative journeys and ways of saving money on your commute.

Thank you.

Sorry your wrong. Having used this service a few times when the trains are not running to the timetable. I also work with someone who lives in Blackfen and gets the bus to Eltham station. They once stayed on the bus to Greenwich and it took 2 hours. I done it the other week took nearly one hour from Eltham Station. Traffic jam on the A2. Also what happens when you get to Greenwich and the jubilee line isn't working or there are traffic jams like most morning. Tell me does the bus sprout wings and fly?

May I suggest:
A) Your advice is not the world beating problem solver you are making it out to be. I didn't ask for your advice, you decided to give it and now you got the hump because someone as pulled you up on it. So wind you neck in.

B) After the Rochester Way it turns right into the Dover patrol, it then goes over the sun in the sands roundabout straight into a traffic jam for the tunnel. crawls along until the exit. Many people can't get on this bus from Well Hall because of over crowding.

C) " I can't give you compensation" But you claim I will get to work on time. Back peddling now are we. Are you Boris?

So your advice is not so great after all pal. maybe check some of your own facts!

Well I've just provided alternatives. I didn't have to. Take them or leave them.

Moan all you like about Southeastern like other have for years but nothing will change.

So you're left with several options;

*remain the grumpy southeastern commuter.

*Drive or,

*Just don't work in London.

Spot on comment or as my old Mum would say to all you commuters, " sh1t or get off the pot "

As Southeastern have removed the toilets from some of their newish trains, even that isn't an option ;-)

That's what the tabloids are for innit ?
Take a dump on an old paper on the floor of the last train out after a nite on dah beer. A nice parcel under the seat fer the cleaners.