Bromley Veolia Environmental Services binmen strike result expected today

Bromley binmen strike result expected today

Bromley binmen strike result expected today

Bromley binmen strike result expected today

Bromley binmen strike result expected today

First published in Bromley News Shopper: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter

BATTLE lines have been drawn as binmen get set to strike over the Christmas period in defence of four fired workers.

The result of a ballot for strike action is expected at 5pm today (November 27) and Unite union believes it will get a yes vote.

Speaking before the result was announced, Unite regional officer Onay Kasab said the plan is to cause maximum disruption by striking in the period between Christmas and New Year.

The union hopes this will lead Veolia Environmental Services, which collects household waste on behalf of Bromley Council, to reinstate four men who were fired in October for gross misconduct.

Unite has said they were fired because they took away a bag of garden waste for a woman.

But portfolio holder for the environment Councillor Colin Smith says there is much more to it.

News Shopper: Bromley binmen strike result expected today

He said: “It is clearly Veolia’s job to manage Veolia’s staff in line with the HR policies and disciplinary codes they have previously agreed with the union, which in this instance, appear to have been breached in a very big way by the four individuals in question.

“Veolia have confirmed that we are not talking about ‘removing a bag of garden waste as a favour to a little old lady’ here, rather an estimated 12 black bags and two large industrial bags of garden waste as well as other items such as chairs from the property concerned, the total amount of unauthorised waste collected weighing approximately 400 kilograms.

“It’s always sad to see people lose their jobs, but when you are caught red handed completely ignoring the rules that your own employer and union have both signed up to, it’s very difficult to see what other choice Veolia had.

“What incentive and message would it send to the vast majority of hard working, rule abiding bin crews to see such a flagrant breach of the rules ignored?

“I would respectfully encourage all of those about to vote to carefully consider all of the issues and evidence involved, rather perhaps than just what they are being told, prior to committing themselves to the call for strike action.”

News Shopper: Bromley binmen strike result expected today

Mr Kasab, from Unite, said: “Bromley Council are in no position to offer anybody industrial relations advice in light of the fact that they are in dispute with their own workforce.

“All the men did was agree to help out a resident - for no cash reward.

“We have seen photographic evidence from Veolia which disputes the amount of waste claimed by the council.

“There was and always is a choice.

"No reasonable employer would have sacked these men - they had a clean disciplinary record, 100 years of service between them and just went the extra mile.

“We will now advise our members to never, ever touch anything that looks like excess waste. Let's see what effect this has on the service.

“Why are Bromley interfering in the internal disciplinary process of a private company - if they want this level of influence, they should stop privatising services.

“This interference now only makes a strike more likely - if our members vote yes, bins in Bromley will not be emptied this Christmas.”

Do you think the four men should have been fired? Have your say below.

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11:59am Tue 27 Nov 12

Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott says...

So in other words they want to spend Christmas watching the telly with their feet up and drinking beer.

I remember a time when dustmen had it hard. They had to manually lift metal dustbins and carry them on their backs to the dustcart. There were no wheelie bins in those days and certainly no fat dustmen.

Readers, remember to go on strike yourselves by refusing to leave the expected 'Christmas box' for these lazy, illiterate, layabouts.
So in other words they want to spend Christmas watching the telly with their feet up and drinking beer. I remember a time when dustmen had it hard. They had to manually lift metal dustbins and carry them on their backs to the dustcart. There were no wheelie bins in those days and certainly no fat dustmen. Readers, remember to go on strike yourselves by refusing to leave the expected 'Christmas box' for these lazy, illiterate, layabouts. Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott
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6:24pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Brook says...

And they used to collect every week and come into the garden for the bin not expect it to be left by the roadside!
And they used to collect every week and come into the garden for the bin not expect it to be left by the roadside! Brook
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8:44pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Gypo.Joe says...

Lets be honest they have always been prima donnas.

A bulls eye at Christmas works wonders though. No mess, bins stacked neatly, and will take anything.

The working class always responds well to cash money.
Lets be honest they have always been prima donnas. A bulls eye at Christmas works wonders though. No mess, bins stacked neatly, and will take anything. The working class always responds well to cash money. Gypo.Joe
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10:27pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Slonik says...

Mr Union-Man must be really pleased with his efforts...

I hope NS readers are collecting loads of pictures of the trail of mess the binmen routinely leave behind in their streets. They'll be handy next time Mr Union-Man gets on his soapbox praising the total professionalism and dedication of his members...
Mr Union-Man must be really pleased with his efforts... I hope NS readers are collecting loads of pictures of the trail of mess the binmen routinely leave behind in their streets. They'll be handy next time Mr Union-Man gets on his soapbox praising the total professionalism and dedication of his members... Slonik
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11:54pm Tue 27 Nov 12

RoisinR says...

Trols, Trols,Trols!
Tory Trols
Ignorant Tory Trols!!
Nothing to do & Nothing to say!
Dont u just love 'em??
Trols, Trols,Trols! Tory Trols Ignorant Tory Trols!! Nothing to do & Nothing to say! Dont u just love 'em?? RoisinR
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10:25am Wed 28 Nov 12

Eagles_Man says...

“We will now advise our members to never, ever touch anything that looks like excess waste. Let's see what effect this has on the service. "

I doubt we'd notice.

Anyway, what's the betting they defer their 'Christmas strike action' as a 'favour' to the residents ... like we are going to be thankful they're kicking us in the shins rather than the groin.
“We will now advise our members to never, ever touch anything that looks like excess waste. Let's see what effect this has on the service. " I doubt we'd notice. Anyway, what's the betting they defer their 'Christmas strike action' as a 'favour' to the residents ... like we are going to be thankful they're kicking us in the shins rather than the groin. Eagles_Man
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10:25am Wed 28 Nov 12

Eagles_Man says...

“We will now advise our members to never, ever touch anything that looks like excess waste. Let's see what effect this has on the service. "

I doubt we'd notice.

Anyway, what's the betting they defer their 'Christmas strike action' as a 'favour' to the residents ... like we are going to be thankful they're kicking us in the shins rather than the groin.
“We will now advise our members to never, ever touch anything that looks like excess waste. Let's see what effect this has on the service. " I doubt we'd notice. Anyway, what's the betting they defer their 'Christmas strike action' as a 'favour' to the residents ... like we are going to be thankful they're kicking us in the shins rather than the groin. Eagles_Man
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10:27am Wed 28 Nov 12

Eagles_Man says...

RoisinR wrote:
Trols, Trols,Trols!
Tory Trols
Ignorant Tory Trols!!
Nothing to do & Nothing to say!
Dont u just love 'em??
It's spelt 'trolls' actually.

In fact, on second thoughts in your case it's spelt 'people who disagree with my point of view'.

Now, how about putting that point of view and debating it like a grown-up?
[quote][p][bold]RoisinR[/bold] wrote: Trols, Trols,Trols! Tory Trols Ignorant Tory Trols!! Nothing to do & Nothing to say! Dont u just love 'em??[/p][/quote]It's spelt 'trolls' actually. In fact, on second thoughts in your case it's spelt 'people who disagree with my point of view'. Now, how about putting that point of view and debating it like a grown-up? Eagles_Man
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12:49pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Slonik says...

To avoid any confusion about what's excess and what's not, I'd suggest concerned residents simply take a picture or two of their waste on collection day. That way they'll have their own evidence of what was put out, what was taken and what sort of mess was left behind. I'm sure Mr Union-Man would welcome this clarity since it would surely back up his assertions with regard to his members.
To avoid any confusion about what's excess and what's not, I'd suggest concerned residents simply take a picture or two of their waste on collection day. That way they'll have their own evidence of what was put out, what was taken and what sort of mess was left behind. I'm sure Mr Union-Man would welcome this clarity since it would surely back up his assertions with regard to his members. Slonik
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1:54pm Wed 28 Nov 12

the wall says...

RoisinR wrote:
Trols, Trols,Trols!
Tory Trols
Ignorant Tory Trols!!
Nothing to do & Nothing to say!
Dont u just love 'em??
Big Fail.


Bring back Eddie Yates.
[quote][p][bold]RoisinR[/bold] wrote: Trols, Trols,Trols! Tory Trols Ignorant Tory Trols!! Nothing to do & Nothing to say! Dont u just love 'em??[/p][/quote]Big Fail. Bring back Eddie Yates. the wall
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2:48pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Gypo.Joe says...

They wont strike, no way. Just idle threats.

If they were to go on strike the Christmas 'bung' goes missing.
They wont strike, no way. Just idle threats. If they were to go on strike the Christmas 'bung' goes missing. Gypo.Joe
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