Charity fraud pensioners 'deceived the community' (From News Shopper)

I wonder what else they 'trousered' over the years.

This paper is getting, no make that has got like a cheap ghetto rag.

A fishwrap....who said that ? ROFL

one of the reasons these "racial equality" orgs should be closed down...... they are riddled with tricksters, liars, and cheats...... who all have one aim..... get their snouts into the tax funded trough and hope no one spots their criminality.......th
ese organisations have well passed their sell by dates and serve no real purpose since new laws came into play....... in times of austerity they should be closed down at once!

ade12001 wrote:
one of the reasons these "racial equality" orgs should be closed down...... they are riddled with tricksters, liars, and cheats...... who all have one aim..... get their snouts into the tax funded trough and hope no one spots their criminality.......th

ese organisations have well passed their sell by dates and serve no real purpose since new laws came into play....... in times of austerity they should be closed down at once!

Everyone complies with all laws now? Or just race equality laws? If 'new laws' have come into play, why did we need 'new' law if everyone was abiding by the old ones? Then i'd like to know why organisations still raise a few thousand race discrimination claims in Employment Tribunals year on year, even since the equality Act in October 2010

Outandabout wrote:

ade12001 wrote: one of the reasons these "racial equality" orgs should be closed down...... they are riddled with tricksters, liars, and cheats...... who all have one aim..... get their snouts into the tax funded trough and hope no one spots their criminality.......th ese organisations have well passed their sell by dates and serve no real purpose since new laws came into play....... in times of austerity they should be closed down at once!

Everyone complies with all laws now? Or just race equality laws? If 'new laws' have come into play, why did we need 'new' law if everyone was abiding by the old ones? Then i'd like to know why organisations still raise a few thousand race discrimination claims in Employment Tribunals year on year, even since the equality Act in October 2010

Laws are laws.........they get broken even when they are introduced.... people still drive around without seat belts on and use their mobiles? huh? most people realise that the majority of racial equality organisations and such like are nothing more than the gravy train ride by those getting paid from the tax payer funded public purse
If they raise " a few thousand race discrimination claims " (proof please to back up your claims?) then you don't need a specific tax funded "monster" organisation costing millions to run to take someone to court.......you just need a lawyer!
Reading this case these two greedy individuals could even pay back 36k so it proves these people did not even need the money they stole in the first place

Outandabout wrote:

ade12001 wrote: one of the reasons these "racial equality" orgs should be closed down...... they are riddled with tricksters, liars, and cheats...... who all have one aim..... get their snouts into the tax funded trough and hope no one spots their criminality.......th ese organisations have well passed their sell by dates and serve no real purpose since new laws came into play....... in times of austerity they should be closed down at once!

Everyone complies with all laws now? Or just race equality laws? If 'new laws' have come into play, why did we need 'new' law if everyone was abiding by the old ones? Then i'd like to know why organisations still raise a few thousand race discrimination claims in Employment Tribunals year on year, even since the equality Act in October 2010

Laws are laws.........they get broken even when they are introduced.... people still drive around without seat belts on and use their mobiles? huh? most people realise that the majority of racial equality organisations and such like are nothing more than the gravy train ride by those getting paid from the tax payer funded public purse
If they raise " a few thousand race discrimination claims " (proof please to back up your claims?) then you don't need a specific tax funded "monster" organisation costing millions to run to take someone to court.......you just need a lawyer!
Reading this case these two greedy individuals could even pay back 36k so it proves these people did not even need the money they stole in the first place

No one checks these race groups out for fear of being branded racist simples!

That personalised numberplate has illegal spacing.

What people must remember is that this pair broke the law. The pair were NOT found guilty, but PLEADED GUILTY.

When someone is found guilty of any crime, never mind about defrauding a charitable organisation and are in a very prominent position, the press has every right to print the story, and pictures, just like it has been happening for hundreds of years. (Tell me, if they had not been found out, do you think they would have returned the money?)

IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT, DON'T DO THE CRIME.

One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon, even with this millstone around his neck, I still feel he is a very decent man and just like many others that have been caught or not as the matter may be, I am more than certain that this bloke has more than paid the price for his part of the mistake and I for one forgive him for what it's worth.

the wall wrote:
That personalised numberplate has illegal spacing.

You are spot on...LOL

Very-Honest wrote:
What people must remember is that this pair broke the law. The pair were NOT found guilty, but PLEADED GUILTY. When someone is found guilty of any crime, never mind about defrauding a charitable organisation and are in a very prominent position, the press has every right to print the story, and pictures, just like it has been happening for hundreds of years. (Tell me, if they had not been found out, do you think they would have returned the money?) IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT, DON'T DO THE CRIME. One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon, even with this millstone around his neck, I still feel he is a very decent man and just like many others that have been caught or not as the matter may be, I am more than certain that this bloke has more than paid the price for his part of the mistake and I for one forgive him for what it's worth.

I don't think you are very honest. In my opinion you have some hidden agenda and are trying very hard (and failing) to get people involved.

Very-Honest says...8:30pm Mon 16 Jul 12 says - I have personally met the older bloke several times.

Very-Honest says..10:34am Sun 22 Jul 12 - I have met both men.

Very-Honest says..6:17pm Mon 23 Jul 12 - One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon,

Greenwich Council for Racial Equality is an utter waste of money and does nothing to unite community. If anything it drives a bigger wedge into the divide.”

For the record, I am very honest.
I only with with solid info.
I have met the older bloke several times and have spoken with him, once at the place he worked at re a problem I had, and by all accounts he was very helpful. The other bloke, met once and said hi when we were at the same event.

I hope the judge takes into account the older blokes excellent work record, his community work and certainty that he will never make another mistake.

We can all make mistakes, it's learning from them.

I once parked on double yellow lines in Woolwich, the traffic warden ticketed me for the 4 mins parking, I did not argue as I did not wrong. As I accepted the ticket, a group of low lives wlaked past and said "flash git." as my bmw 3 series was almost brand new at the time, I pulled them up and told them i had worked hard, so take it back, they did.

the wall wrote:

Very-Honest wrote:
What people must remember is that this pair broke the law. The pair were NOT found guilty, but PLEADED GUILTY. When someone is found guilty of any crime, never mind about defrauding a charitable organisation and are in a very prominent position, the press has every right to print the story, and pictures, just like it has been happening for hundreds of years. (Tell me, if they had not been found out, do you think they would have returned the money?) IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT, DON'T DO THE CRIME. One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon, even with this millstone around his neck, I still feel he is a very decent man and just like many others that have been caught or not as the matter may be, I am more than certain that this bloke has more than paid the price for his part of the mistake and I for one forgive him for what it's worth.

I don't think you are very honest. In my opinion you have some hidden agenda and are trying very hard (and failing) to get people involved.

Very-Honest says...8:30pm Mon 16 Jul 12 says - I have personally met the older bloke several times.

Very-Honest says..10:34am Sun 22 Jul 12 - I have met both men.

Very-Honest says..6:17pm Mon 23 Jul 12 - One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon,

Greenwich Council for Racial Equality is an utter waste of money and does nothing to unite community. If anything it drives a bigger wedge into the divide.”

The Wall says:
" don't think you are very honest. In my opinion you have some hidden agenda and are trying very hard (and failing) to get people involved."

Look friend. I post honestly and never resorted to abuse unlike the several posts removed from this story.

If I "tried," friend, I'd contact the tabloids and they would have a serious interest as one of these blokes had a very high profile in race hate crimes and had appeared on the tv, press/radio/etc/etc. However, I have no interest in doing that but other may do that once the pair are sentenced and/or the story is put into print in the local papers and Punjabi speaking media.

GCRE was a beacon of light for victims of racist attacks in Greenwich and the work of the Racial Attacks Monitoring Unit (also known as GACARA) meant that many people were able to get help and support when none was available elsewhere.

There was in-fighting amongst the staff of GCRE for years but this always happens when an organisation provides a wide range of services and there are finite resources available. It is also true that some of the ‘case working’ GCRE staff had a less than outstanding relationship with partner agencies, but this is not relevant to this case.

At the end of the day, two experienced, highly regarded individuals, in a position of trust within GCRE conspired to abuse their positions to defraud the organisation for their own financial gain.

Any good that either of these men did previously is wiped out by their heinous acts to which they have admitted. They betrayed the trust of their colleagues, partner agencies, friends and the very people who relied on GCRE for help and support. Shame on these two men!

As to the Newsshopper choosing to publish a photo showing an individuals number plate and identifying the street he lives in, I think this is dubious journalism at best. Stating that Mr Bajwa drives a luxury car and lives in a detached house in Erith would have sufficed.

Virtual Monster,
Very good synopsis of the events leading to these two men pleading guilty.

Please note that the press has long published names, and addresses of people that are guilty of a crime along with the pictures of the criminal/s and their property.

As this involved fraud and money, £47,000, in my judgement the press has every right to publish the pictures. Normally, flash cars with private registration plates the aims to display the owners name, the press has every right to publish.

What i can't comprehend is that these two had good jobs, respected by many, had nice homes, cars/etc/etc, so why take the money?

Yes, people have lost jobs and even more importantly, the vulnerable, victims of race crime have lost a much needed service.

What has happened has happened and the judge will be in a good position to deliver an appropriate sentence/fine or both.

Our prisons are full, I'm certain that these two will never break the law again, so a fine should be sufficient.

I am sure there is more to this story than meets the eye. Plus, I agree with virtual-monster, publishing mr bajwas adress and car number plate is malicious and puts him and his family at risk.

Very-Honest wrote:

the wall wrote:

Very-Honest wrote: What people must remember is that this pair broke the law. The pair were NOT found guilty, but PLEADED GUILTY. When someone is found guilty of any crime, never mind about defrauding a charitable organisation and are in a very prominent position, the press has every right to print the story, and pictures, just like it has been happening for hundreds of years. (Tell me, if they had not been found out, do you think they would have returned the money?) IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT, DON'T DO THE CRIME. One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon, even with this millstone around his neck, I still feel he is a very decent man and just like many others that have been caught or not as the matter may be, I am more than certain that this bloke has more than paid the price for his part of the mistake and I for one forgive him for what it's worth.

I don't think you are very honest. In my opinion you have some hidden agenda and are trying very hard (and failing) to get people involved. Very-Honest says...8:30pm Mon 16 Jul 12 says - I have personally met the older bloke several times. Very-Honest says..10:34am Sun 22 Jul 12 - I have met both men. Very-Honest says..6:17pm Mon 23 Jul 12 - One of the blokes I have met several times Mr Dhillon, Greenwich Council for Racial Equality is an utter waste of money and does nothing to unite community. If anything it drives a bigger wedge into the divide.”

The Wall says: " don't think you are very honest. In my opinion you have some hidden agenda and are trying very hard (and failing) to get people involved." Look friend. I post honestly and never resorted to abuse unlike the several posts removed from this story. If I "tried," friend, I'd contact the tabloids and they would have a serious interest as one of these blokes had a very high profile in race hate crimes and had appeared on the tv, press/radio/etc/etc. However, I have no interest in doing that but other may do that once the pair are sentenced and/or the story is put into print in the local papers and Punjabi speaking media.

Really you post honestly. So how come you claim to have met one of these thieves, then you claim to have met both, and then go on to claim you have met one of them again. I put the evidence to you and you ignore it. That's being honest is it?

Do you have trouble reading and taking on board what has been written?

You keep calling me 'friend', a friend is someone I have known for many years and trust. I don't know you and I don't trust you.

Dear friend

I have met one several times during the prvious 10 years or so and met the ex director of GCRE once, and it was merely a greeting. Now, if you want to make a criminal case out of that, then go ahead, but please remember friend, I'm not the one that pleaded guilty to the crime.

Btw, friend, if I did have a "hidden agenda," trust me friend, I'd go all out and contact the tabloids as they would be interested in this story re ex champion of race equality/crime issues and some of the high profile cases he commented, or helped on. It's not my style friend, so believe what you want to believe.

My friend just rang me to look in the hard copy of the Newshopper - story is in today's paper, has no picture of jag but a full blown picture of the lovely house that belongs to Mr Makhan Bajwa.

I wrongly assumed that the story would not be printed in the paper until the crown court judge had passed sentence. The story is in the Greenwich edition, does anyone live in Bexley/Lewisham, has the story been printed in those papers as well?

Having seen the hard copy of this rag, I am disgusted that NS have stooped so low as to publish a photo of Mr Bajwa's family home.

I sincerely hope that NS is prosecuted for invasion of privacy and its completely outrageous coverage.

I for one will be putting your trash newspaper straight into the bin from now on.

You should be ashamed of yourselves & hope action is taken against you.

Was it something we said ? I guess 'some people' just don't like to hear the truth.


Scum thieves are just that, SCUM !!

Total-recall wrote:
Having seen the hard copy of this rag, I am disgusted that NS have stooped so low as to publish a photo of Mr Bajwa's family home.

I sincerely hope that NS is prosecuted for invasion of privacy and its completely outrageous coverage.

I for one will be putting your trash newspaper straight into the bin from now on.

You should be ashamed of yourselves & hope action is taken against you.

Hi friend

NS is a long standing and highly respected news source that is backed up by a highly motivated, and very rich organsation. Staff at Ns are no fly by nights and take every care to post the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and within the law of the land.

it is indeed standard practice for good news papers to report the name, addresses, name of street, picture of the criminal/s and pictures of life style especially what is stolen is a vast amount of monies.

A friend of a friend of ours was up to no good, he got caught out stealing money from his employer and using that to better his life style, until he was caught that is. his pics were in the local paper, along with street name and pics of the cars he drove and lovely home. He went to a solicitor to sue the paper and the solicitor fell off his chair rolling in agony with laughter.

If I had defrauded a charity, caught out, pics of me and my lifestlye were printed, the last thing i would want is for the story to be covered again.

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Was it something we said ? I guess 'some people' just don't like to hear the truth.


Scum thieves are just that, SCUM !!

Hi

This pair did wrong, but hopefully learnt their lesson, so no need to post abuse.

Very-Honest wrote:

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Was it something we said ? I guess 'some people' just don't like to hear the truth.


Scum thieves are just that, SCUM !!

Hi

This pair did wrong, but hopefully learnt their lesson, so no need to post abuse.

If you don't like my opinion of scum thieves like your friends, I have two things to say to you

1.... hard luck

2....go forth and multiply, that's FO in simple terms.

No offence intended.

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:

Very-Honest wrote:

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Was it something we said ? I guess 'some people' just don't like to hear the truth.


Scum thieves are just that, SCUM !!

Hi

This pair did wrong, but hopefully learnt their lesson, so no need to post abuse.

If you don't like my opinion of scum thieves like your friends, I have two things to say to you

1.... hard luck

2....go forth and multiply, that's FO in simple terms.

No offence intended.

Hi

I'm not offended by your comments.

Very importantly, the pair are NOT my "friends."! I have admitted that over approx ten years I have met the older bloke. He was very helpful to me and my parents re legal and other help/advice. The ex director, said hello to him once when we were all at at a function in the whitehart road centre.

Indeed, you are entitled to your "opinion," but it never hurts if one posts his/her/their opinions in a civilised manner.

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:

Very-Honest wrote:

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:

Very-Honest wrote:

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote: Was it something we said ? I guess 'some people' just don't like to hear the truth. Scum thieves are just that, SCUM !!

Hi This pair did wrong, but hopefully learnt their lesson, so no need to post abuse.

If you don't like my opinion of scum thieves like your friends, I have two things to say to you 1.... hard luck 2....go forth and multiply, that's FO in simple terms. No offence intended.

Hi I'm not offended by your comments. Very importantly, the pair are NOT my "friends."! I have admitted that over approx ten years I have met the older bloke. He was very helpful to me and my parents re legal and other help/advice. The ex director, said hello to him once when we were all at at a function in the whitehart road centre. Indeed, you are entitled to your "opinion," but it never hurts if one posts his/her/their opinions in a civilised manner.

What are you after then, a ride in the Jag or what ?

That is exactly what I have been thinking?

This poster is not Very-Honest. She has tried to be clever and is clearly a tin foil hat wearer. Some of the comments are cloud cuckoo. I think they are new to interweb land.

Telling people to post their opinions in a civilised manner. Who made you the law of how people should post. Get over yourself. Why use 50 words when 10 say it just as well. Cuts out all the waffle and is straight to the point. Unlike your posts. People who waffle on generally have nothing of substance to say.

Or perhaps a tin foil salwar kameez, if I may dare to say Mizz !!

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Or perhaps a tin foil salwar kameez, if I may dare to say Mizz !!

Dear Friend
LOL the dupatta to tight and cutting off the oxegen.

THank yOu

I call em Victor Silvester trousers,..... plenty of ball room boi. Ya don't want ya christmas crackers turnin blue now do ya !!

tHanK yoU

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
Or perhaps a tin foil salwar kameez, if I may dare to say Mizz !!

Guess away. - lol

Has the Punjabi papers printed the story? Will check tomorrow.

I think all criminals should be named and shamed with pictures in the press. I want to know if someone I'm living near or dealing with is a criminal.

Anyone know the outcome of the sentencing hearing?

Hi, I think the only people who have been victim of Mr B and Mr D have the true picture of the pair in question. Both guys kept their powerful and supportive image even outside GCRE. They had to be polite and caring towards the general public otherwise they would have been kicked out long ago. Working under Mr B was HELL. I had to worry about pleasing him more than pleasing my clients. He had no knowledge, experience or training to be even a manager. He treated his staff like he was in India and we were all his personal servants. I think there should be a serious investigation into Mrs Bajwa's projects too. Mr B was dectating her throughout her employment. We know these people better DEAR....

Neelam Sawhney wrote:
Hi, I think the only people who have been victim of Mr B and Mr D have the true picture of the pair in question. Both guys kept their powerful and supportive image even outside GCRE. They had to be polite and caring towards the general public otherwise they would have been kicked out long ago. Working under Mr B was HELL. I had to worry about pleasing him more than pleasing my clients. He had no knowledge, experience or training to be even a manager. He treated his staff like he was in India and we were all his personal servants. I think there should be a serious investigation into Mrs Bajwa's projects too. Mr B was dectating her throughout her employment. We know these people better DEAR....

Very, very, very interesting.

There is a big difference between rumour and fact. If you have the evidence, go to the cops if you feel that strongly about it