Some people should be banned from breeding: Editor's Eye comment

News Shopper: Some parents set a better example to their kids than others Some parents set a better example to their kids than others

WE ALL love our kids, we want to do the best we can for them and above all want them to live happy, fulfilled lives.

We’re bound to have different views on how to best help them achieve their full potential and, even if we don’t always voice our opinions, we often feel we could do better than others. All of this is natural.

But, while we can agree to disagree on some areas of parenting, I saw two things recently which convinced me the world has gone mad and certain people should be banned altogether from producing offspring and possibly even neutered for the general good of society.

Linda Doran should certainly have been sterilised — four sons in jail, three for murder, and she justifies it by lying for them.

The second story was very different — no brutality, no lying, no death, but you still have to question the parenting values. An upset mum reported her child’s buggy had been stolen, that’s it. But wait for it, the buggy cost a mere £1,200.

Now I know society is brand crazy and we always want to do the best for our children, but this is crazy and serves only to demonstrate all sense of priority has been lost.

How can anyone justify spending more than a grand on a baby buggy? The child isn’t even aware what it’s being pushed around in at that age.

You could buy it a second-hand car for that, or open a savings account for college. Seriously if we want our kids to develop into decent adults we’ve got to set a better example.

Mind you, if I was stark raving mad enough to spend that kind of cash to push my kid around there’s no way I’d have left it unlocked so someone could nick it.

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12:00pm Thu 25 Apr 13

concerned.erith says...

Couldn't agree more!

Too many times I see this type of thing and it makes you stand an scratch your head in awe of their sheer blind stupidity.

What chance has the poor brat got with parents like that!
Couldn't agree more! Too many times I see this type of thing and it makes you stand an scratch your head in awe of their sheer blind stupidity. What chance has the poor brat got with parents like that! concerned.erith
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12:22pm Thu 25 Apr 13

handymanchris says...

Too right!

It would make a start for people not to get any child benifit under 25.

It will soon stop kids breeding with eachother.
Too right! It would make a start for people not to get any child benifit under 25. It will soon stop kids breeding with eachother. handymanchris
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1:02pm Thu 25 Apr 13

Vikingmolly says...

What a ridiculous article, how you can lump the 2 separate women together is ludicrous and quite frankly smacks of jealousy that someone have that kind of disposable income...the woman had her buggy stolen which is not right under any circumstances and then to add insult to injury you lump her in with a woman who have bred nothing but scum....clearly Mr Parkes lives in a hovel, with no luxuries to ensure HE lives by his own moral standards!
What a ridiculous article, how you can lump the 2 separate women together is ludicrous and quite frankly smacks of jealousy that someone have that kind of disposable income...the woman had her buggy stolen which is not right under any circumstances and then to add insult to injury you lump her in with a woman who have bred nothing but scum....clearly Mr Parkes lives in a hovel, with no luxuries to ensure HE lives by his own moral standards! Vikingmolly
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1:55pm Thu 25 Apr 13

PaulErith says...

When I saw the headline, I thought, yes I agree. But it's scandalous to suggest that the woman shouldn't be allowed to kids because she spent £1200 on a buggy! I'm not sure I've heard a reporter ever write anything more stupid. What business is it of yours that she spent a lot on a buggy. How much do you think a celebrity Mum, e.g. Victoria Beckham, spends on her kids buggies and clothes? I bet it's way more than a grand! Does that mean she shouldn't be allowed to have kids?

If the woman has the money to spend on it, then that's her business.

Andrew Parkes should be ashamed of such a stupid bit of journalism!
When I saw the headline, I thought, yes I agree. But it's scandalous to suggest that the woman shouldn't be allowed to kids because she spent £1200 on a buggy! I'm not sure I've heard a reporter ever write anything more stupid. What business is it of yours that she spent a lot on a buggy. How much do you think a celebrity Mum, e.g. Victoria Beckham, spends on her kids buggies and clothes? I bet it's way more than a grand! Does that mean she shouldn't be allowed to have kids? If the woman has the money to spend on it, then that's her business. Andrew Parkes should be ashamed of such a stupid bit of journalism! PaulErith
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2:01pm Thu 25 Apr 13

Wispy Wonder says...

Hell yes. Maybe Lewisham wouldn't be rated as the least peaceful place in the UK if there was less devil spawn running the streets.

The feckless should be neutered.
Hell yes. Maybe Lewisham wouldn't be rated as the least peaceful place in the UK if there was less devil spawn running the streets. The feckless should be neutered. Wispy Wonder
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3:38pm Thu 25 Apr 13

Dartbored says...

Blimey Andrew - you've made the broadsheets:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/media/greensla
de/2013/apr/25/newsq
uest-local-newspaper
s
Blimey Andrew - you've made the broadsheets: http://www.guardian. co.uk/media/greensla de/2013/apr/25/newsq uest-local-newspaper s Dartbored
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4:57pm Thu 25 Apr 13

PaulErith says...

Dartbored wrote:
Blimey Andrew - you've made the broadsheets: http://www.guardian. co.uk/media/greensla de/2013/apr/25/newsq uest-local-newspaper s
lol! I hope he gets absolutely caned! Although he'll probably be caned for the fact that he's suggested some people shouldn't be allowed to breed, which I think most people on here have already agreed with. What he should get bashed about is the woman with the buggy. To claim that she should not be allowed to breed is ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]Dartbored[/bold] wrote: Blimey Andrew - you've made the broadsheets: http://www.guardian. co.uk/media/greensla de/2013/apr/25/newsq uest-local-newspaper s[/p][/quote]lol! I hope he gets absolutely caned! Although he'll probably be caned for the fact that he's suggested some people shouldn't be allowed to breed, which I think most people on here have already agreed with. What he should get bashed about is the woman with the buggy. To claim that she should not be allowed to breed is ridiculous. PaulErith
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5:39pm Thu 25 Apr 13

whathappenedtoqualitypress says...

I've reported this to the PPC on grounds of discrimination. I suggest others do too
I've reported this to the PPC on grounds of discrimination. I suggest others do too whathappenedtoqualitypress
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7:31pm Thu 25 Apr 13

Juliepinky says...

How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her.
So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she.
She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too.
Your words infuriate me.
How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her. So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she. She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too. Your words infuriate me. Juliepinky
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9:02pm Thu 25 Apr 13

cookster says...

Hey Andrew, stop pretending you're in meetings and face the real press.

And whilst you're at it you may want to grow up a little bit.
Hey Andrew, stop pretending you're in meetings and face the real press. And whilst you're at it you may want to grow up a little bit. cookster
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2:32am Fri 26 Apr 13

alexianson94 says...

I find this incredibly de-humanizing.

For one, you are group 2 very very different people together.

You are grouping a mother who lied for her criminal offspring and a mother who bought an expensive buggy and reported it stolen, when it was stolen........ i'm sorry, i don't even understand why this is news or why this has been broadcasted...like at all, not even to mention how you are using "breeding" as a derogatory insult, as if it was some horrible taboo.

You're making out as if the world has gone down the toilet, yes there are bad people in the world, but a buggy reported stolen? oh no, the end is nigh.
I find this incredibly de-humanizing. For one, you are group 2 very very different people together. You are grouping a mother who lied for her criminal offspring and a mother who bought an expensive buggy and reported it stolen, when it was stolen........ i'm sorry, i don't even understand why this is news or why this has been broadcasted...like at all, not even to mention how you are using "breeding" as a derogatory insult, as if it was some horrible taboo. You're making out as if the world has gone down the toilet, yes there are bad people in the world, but a buggy reported stolen? oh no, the end is nigh. alexianson94
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2:37am Fri 26 Apr 13

alexianson94 says...

To clarify, Andrew Parkes, you can have your opinion, it's your human right, you can go around thinking that people who buy expensive things shouldn't have kids.... however, you are using quite a powerful medium (the media) to express your opinions, and to be fair, you are going to receive a lot backlash for what you have mentioned above. I do not wish that you lose job, i just wish you gain some human decency.
To clarify, Andrew Parkes, you can have your opinion, it's your human right, you can go around thinking that people who buy expensive things shouldn't have kids.... however, you are using quite a powerful medium (the media) to express your opinions, and to be fair, you are going to receive a lot backlash for what you have mentioned above. I do not wish that you lose job, i just wish you gain some human decency. alexianson94
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10:42am Fri 26 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive.

I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)
Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;) Gypo.Joe
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10:51am Fri 26 Apr 13

handymanchris says...

He is only saying what people are thinking. Prime example, we have all watched jeremy kyle and looked at the stage guests on the show and sat there in disbelief with what they come out with.

I agree with this story, although i can afford a £1200 pram, its not needed and others much cheaper are of same quality and do the same job.

He has not said "you can't have kids"
He has not said any one is a bad parent
He has not said you cant buy luxuries.

In fact he has made a good point.

Society has gone brand crazy. People are putting brands over practicality.

People breed for an income and it needs to stop.

That is the story in a nutshell and reading the comments of others, Really, Are you so fragile that a story gets to you that much? Man up! jeez!

I hear so many stories on cowboy builders but should i be upset by it being a tradesmen? No!

Reporting the story on discrimination? Where is the discrimination in this story?

Andrew, hats off to you mate. Not many editors would write what you have. There needs to be more people in the media with big hairy kahunas to put the point across.
He is only saying what people are thinking. Prime example, we have all watched jeremy kyle and looked at the stage guests on the show and sat there in disbelief with what they come out with. I agree with this story, although i can afford a £1200 pram, its not needed and others much cheaper are of same quality and do the same job. He has not said "you can't have kids" He has not said any one is a bad parent He has not said you cant buy luxuries. In fact he has made a good point. Society has gone brand crazy. People are putting brands over practicality. People breed for an income and it needs to stop. That is the story in a nutshell and reading the comments of others, Really, Are you so fragile that a story gets to you that much? Man up! jeez! I hear so many stories on cowboy builders but should i be upset by it being a tradesmen? No! Reporting the story on discrimination? Where is the discrimination in this story? Andrew, hats off to you mate. Not many editors would write what you have. There needs to be more people in the media with big hairy kahunas to put the point across. handymanchris
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11:14am Fri 26 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

handymanchris but people are offended. LOL

"big hairy kahunas", oh my God that's not kosher, someone will be offended for sure.
I have to agree with a previous comment about no child bennys for anyone under 25. We need to stop children having children. Tomorrows chavs !!
handymanchris but people are offended. LOL "big hairy kahunas", oh my God that's not kosher, someone will be offended for sure. I have to agree with a previous comment about no child bennys for anyone under 25. We need to stop children having children. Tomorrows chavs !! Gypo.Joe
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12:03pm Fri 26 Apr 13

the narkybadger says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)
there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;)
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)[/p][/quote]there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;) the narkybadger
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1:35pm Fri 26 Apr 13

bnorther says...

The problem with not letting people bread is this. Its Eugenics.

Now Eugenics, aside from the ethical problems which are huge, can cause problems with diseases, genetic diversity, and eventually the collapse of the human race. By introducing Eugenics you are introducing another form of discrimination, before we have got rid of racial, sexual and other types of discrimination. One person of so called superior 'class' imposing their will on another. Eventually the so called superior class would want more and more modifications and more suppression of the so called 'lower' class. After not many generations, the two classes would not be able to breed, and the Human Race as we know it would cease to exist.

Also, it would tend to start off with specialised cases. Don't allow pedios and murderers to bread. But this would be the thin end of the wedge. next it may be rapists. Then thieves. Then a shop lifter. Then a minor motoring offence. Then someone who is 'ugly' or has dark eyes and not blonde hair. These things have a habit of acceleration.

Now all of a sudden we are on course with what Hitler wanted. Hang on Hitler was pro Eugenics. Are you now Andrew?

Are you the same as Hitler Andrew? Its beginning to look like it.
The problem with not letting people bread is this. Its Eugenics. Now Eugenics, aside from the ethical problems which are huge, can cause problems with diseases, genetic diversity, and eventually the collapse of the human race. By introducing Eugenics you are introducing another form of discrimination, before we have got rid of racial, sexual and other types of discrimination. One person of so called superior 'class' imposing their will on another. Eventually the so called superior class would want more and more modifications and more suppression of the so called 'lower' class. After not many generations, the two classes would not be able to breed, and the Human Race as we know it would cease to exist. Also, it would tend to start off with specialised cases. Don't allow pedios and murderers to bread. But this would be the thin end of the wedge. next it may be rapists. Then thieves. Then a shop lifter. Then a minor motoring offence. Then someone who is 'ugly' or has dark eyes and not blonde hair. These things have a habit of acceleration. Now all of a sudden we are on course with what Hitler wanted. Hang on Hitler was pro Eugenics. Are you now Andrew? Are you the same as Hitler Andrew? Its beginning to look like it. bnorther
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2:27pm Fri 26 Apr 13

cookster says...

That would have sounded smart if you didn't use the word bread in the opening line.
That would have sounded smart if you didn't use the word bread in the opening line. cookster
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2:29pm Fri 26 Apr 13

bnorther says...

cookster wrote:
That would have sounded smart if you didn't use the word bread in the opening line.
fair enough - you got me.
[quote][p][bold]cookster[/bold] wrote: That would have sounded smart if you didn't use the word bread in the opening line.[/p][/quote]fair enough - you got me. bnorther
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3:00pm Fri 26 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

the narkybadger wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)
there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;)
Still obsessed with Erastus aren't you Karl ? A real bromance !!

Run along now you knuckle dragging oaf.
[quote][p][bold]the narkybadger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)[/p][/quote]there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;)[/p][/quote]Still obsessed with Erastus aren't you Karl ? A real bromance !! Run along now you knuckle dragging oaf. Gypo.Joe
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3:34pm Fri 26 Apr 13

handymanchris says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
the narkybadger wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)
there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;)
Still obsessed with Erastus aren't you Karl ? A real bromance !!

Run along now you knuckle dragging oaf.
Banter = The home of the new shopper!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the narkybadger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Andrew Parkes wanted dead or alive. I thought Erastus was the king of trolls but Andy you're right up there with him now boi. Nice one !! LOL ;)[/p][/quote]there is a poem going around on the net about "erastus piggott" tis very funny and also how the erastus piggott blog was shut down for good! ;)[/p][/quote]Still obsessed with Erastus aren't you Karl ? A real bromance !! Run along now you knuckle dragging oaf.[/p][/quote]Banter = The home of the new shopper! handymanchris
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4:45pm Fri 26 Apr 13

the wall says...

whathappenedtoqualit
ypress
wrote:
I've reported this to the PPC on grounds of discrimination. I suggest others do too
Being offended at anything on the interweb is your choice.
[quote][p][bold]whathappenedtoqualit ypress[/bold] wrote: I've reported this to the PPC on grounds of discrimination. I suggest others do too[/p][/quote]Being offended at anything on the interweb is your choice. the wall
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4:46pm Fri 26 Apr 13

Dartbored says...

Gypo.Joe = Erastus
Gypo.Joe = Erastus Dartbored
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8:43pm Fri 26 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Dartbored wrote:
Gypo.Joe = Erastus
Nope Dartbored, how can I be Erastus when I'm Spartacus.

What makes me smile is Daley and Brewer accuse others of having a myriad of user names, kettle pot, pot kettle.

Morons.
[quote][p][bold]Dartbored[/bold] wrote: Gypo.Joe = Erastus[/p][/quote]Nope Dartbored, how can I be Erastus when I'm Spartacus. What makes me smile is Daley and Brewer accuse others of having a myriad of user names, kettle pot, pot kettle. Morons. Gypo.Joe
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9:48am Sat 27 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory
!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!! Inspirationalady28
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10:15am Sat 27 Apr 13

Cut N Paste says...

Still taking the bait and getting wound up "Gypo Joe"

Lol
Still taking the bait and getting wound up "Gypo Joe" Lol Cut N Paste
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11:06am Sat 27 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Cut N Paste wrote:
Still taking the bait and getting wound up "Gypo Joe"

Lol
If you say so Karl. I would call wound up people obsessed with another persons user name, to the point of calling the editor to get user names blocked. Now who's wound up ?? Or how about the mention of Leonies name...boo hoo Simon !!
Or the old one about making threats !! ;)

Should I go on ? ROFL.
[quote][p][bold]Cut N Paste[/bold] wrote: Still taking the bait and getting wound up "Gypo Joe" Lol[/p][/quote]If you say so Karl. I would call wound up people obsessed with another persons user name, to the point of calling the editor to get user names blocked. Now who's wound up ?? Or how about the mention of Leonies name...boo hoo Simon !! Or the old one about making threats !! ;) Should I go on ? ROFL. Gypo.Joe
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11:32am Sat 27 Apr 13

Marty1979 says...

Juliepinky wrote:
How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her.
So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she.
She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too.
Your words infuriate me.
So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram"

Or not?
[quote][p][bold]Juliepinky[/bold] wrote: How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her. So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she. She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too. Your words infuriate me.[/p][/quote]So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram" Or not? Marty1979
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12:08pm Sat 27 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Juliepinky wrote:
How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her.
So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she.
She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too.
Your words infuriate me.
So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram"

Or not?
Spot on Marty, it's the look at me everyone BS.

All that on a push chair and lives in a 'cancel' flat.

( OK, housing association )
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Juliepinky[/bold] wrote: How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her. So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she. She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too. Your words infuriate me.[/p][/quote]So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram" Or not?[/p][/quote]Spot on Marty, it's the look at me everyone BS. All that on a push chair and lives in a 'cancel' flat. ( OK, housing association ) Gypo.Joe
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4:09pm Sat 27 Apr 13

handymanchris says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory

!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
No it isn't libellous or defamatory!

For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply.

Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke!
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]No it isn't libellous or defamatory! For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply. Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke! handymanchris
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4:58pm Sat 27 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

handymanchris wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory


!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
No it isn't libellous or defamatory!

For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply.

Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke!
It doesn't take rocket science to work it out who he was referring to... Even her Mother knows that! Btw, I speak as I find!!!!
[quote][p][bold]handymanchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]No it isn't libellous or defamatory! For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply. Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke![/p][/quote]It doesn't take rocket science to work it out who he was referring to... Even her Mother knows that! Btw, I speak as I find!!!! Inspirationalady28
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5:11pm Sat 27 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
handymanchris wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory



!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
No it isn't libellous or defamatory!

For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply.

Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke!
It doesn't take rocket science to work it out who he was referring to... Even her Mother knows that! Btw, I speak as I find!!!!
A person doesn't have to be named.. If they're identifiable by what was printed then it's libellous!! Look it up if you don't believe me..
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]handymanchris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]No it isn't libellous or defamatory! For the above to apply they need to be named. They have not been named, so it does not apply. Next thing you will tell the group is that Abu qatada is a nice bloke![/p][/quote]It doesn't take rocket science to work it out who he was referring to... Even her Mother knows that! Btw, I speak as I find!!!![/p][/quote]A person doesn't have to be named.. If they're identifiable by what was printed then it's libellous!! Look it up if you don't believe me.. Inspirationalady28
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11:54pm Sat 27 Apr 13

danm5577 says...

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
The way some mothers talk to their young kids is shocking they ignor their constant mum mum mum then tell them to shut the F UP!
I look forward to that generation grow up and tell their parents to F OFF!
FREEDOM OF SPEECH! The way some mothers talk to their young kids is shocking they ignor their constant mum mum mum then tell them to shut the F UP! I look forward to that generation grow up and tell their parents to F OFF! danm5577
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9:28am Mon 29 Apr 13

PaulErith says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Marty1979 wrote:
Juliepinky wrote: How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her. So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she. She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too. Your words infuriate me.
So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram" Or not?
Spot on Marty, it's the look at me everyone BS. All that on a push chair and lives in a 'cancel' flat. ( OK, housing association )
If she was on benefits, I'd agree, but you don't know that. In fact, from her Mum's comment, it sounds like she's not. If she can afford it, I think it's wrong to judge her. Do you own a car? I assume from your comments that you would only buy the cheapest, lowest range model going? If not, then it must be because you just want to show off.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Juliepinky[/bold] wrote: How dare you insinuate my daughter is a bad parent for buying a pram that suits her. So what if she spent that sort of money on it, it's her first child so if she's not a scrounger and on benefits and can afford it why shouldn't she. She works hard and saved and grandparents donated too. Your words infuriate me.[/p][/quote]So it is simply "look at me, I can afford a £1200 pram" Or not?[/p][/quote]Spot on Marty, it's the look at me everyone BS. All that on a push chair and lives in a 'cancel' flat. ( OK, housing association )[/p][/quote]If she was on benefits, I'd agree, but you don't know that. In fact, from her Mum's comment, it sounds like she's not. If she can afford it, I think it's wrong to judge her. Do you own a car? I assume from your comments that you would only buy the cheapest, lowest range model going? If not, then it must be because you just want to show off. PaulErith
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11:40am Mon 29 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Fair point Paul, but if you spend 1200 quid on a pram and are then dumb enough to leave it where it can get nicked don't expect sympathy from me or anyone else.

Stupid is as stupid does, and they breed.
Fair point Paul, but if you spend 1200 quid on a pram and are then dumb enough to leave it where it can get nicked don't expect sympathy from me or anyone else. Stupid is as stupid does, and they breed. Gypo.Joe
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1:15pm Mon 29 Apr 13

PaulErith says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Fair point Paul, but if you spend 1200 quid on a pram and are then dumb enough to leave it where it can get nicked don't expect sympathy from me or anyone else. Stupid is as stupid does, and they breed.
Agreed that I personally wouldn't have left it unattended, but it's a shame that the World we live in is such that someone can't do that. The thief should be the main person that criticism is aimed at.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Fair point Paul, but if you spend 1200 quid on a pram and are then dumb enough to leave it where it can get nicked don't expect sympathy from me or anyone else. Stupid is as stupid does, and they breed.[/p][/quote]Agreed that I personally wouldn't have left it unattended, but it's a shame that the World we live in is such that someone can't do that. The thief should be the main person that criticism is aimed at. PaulErith
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1:21pm Mon 29 Apr 13

MMetaller says...

Well this escalated quickly.

If you want some prime examples of some parents who should not have 'the right' to have kids; then I will gladly list a few for you. However; to imply that a mother spending a lot of money on something for her child should instantly put her into this 'scum' category, is poorly thought out.

Yes I do happen to think that such a ludicrous price is somewhat outrageous (& I most certainly would never spend that amount on a buggy); but it went on something for her child, not on herself or a new tv or drugs etc.
What's more; the mother of this young lady has stated here that the buggy was paid out of wages & help from the grandparents; at least it wasn't paid by the tax payer!

As for those examples.
When my partner & I were experiencing financial trouble; we actually had someone suggest to us that we should 'have more kids because you'll get more money'.
I cannot believe that some people have this mentality! These children are nothing more then walking money bags to these people (& considering the children are pretty much tossed outside every day & left to their own devices without any form of parental supervision is proof enough of this).
Plus it really says something when your own child glances at you in shock when they overhear another mother aggressively swear at their child for the most trivial of things, as well as the times I've heard mum's shamefully threaten to punch their child.

Although I agree that spending such money on an item like a buggy is poorly thought out (they could have opened a savings account for the child with that money; but live & learn I always say); I do NOT agree to placing this young lady in the same category as the mother who lied for criminals!
It just seems harshly unfair to me.
Well this escalated quickly. If you want some prime examples of some parents who should not have 'the right' to have kids; then I will gladly list a few for you. However; to imply that a mother spending a lot of money on something for her child should instantly put her into this 'scum' category, is poorly thought out. Yes I do happen to think that such a ludicrous price is somewhat outrageous (& I most certainly would never spend that amount on a buggy); but it went on something for her child, not on herself or a new tv or drugs etc. What's more; the mother of this young lady has stated here that the buggy was paid out of wages & help from the grandparents; at least it wasn't paid by the tax payer! As for those examples. When my partner & I were experiencing financial trouble; we actually had someone suggest to us that we should 'have more kids because you'll get more money'. I cannot believe that some people have this mentality! These children are nothing more then walking money bags to these people (& considering the children are pretty much tossed outside every day & left to their own devices without any form of parental supervision is proof enough of this). Plus it really says something when your own child glances at you in shock when they overhear another mother aggressively swear at their child for the most trivial of things, as well as the times I've heard mum's shamefully threaten to punch their child. Although I agree that spending such money on an item like a buggy is poorly thought out (they could have opened a savings account for the child with that money; but live & learn I always say); I do NOT agree to placing this young lady in the same category as the mother who lied for criminals! It just seems harshly unfair to me. MMetaller
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1:23pm Mon 29 Apr 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory

!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
Are you offended on other peoples behalf?

No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over.

how did you get to become an editor in the first place? ..........
Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]Are you offended on other peoples behalf? No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over. how did you get to become an editor in the first place? .......... Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help. the wall
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4:10pm Mon 29 Apr 13

banjo8 says...

There's always someone getting offended. Parkes is a fairly offensive individual and I don't often agree with him. But by his standards this was quite well written. I don't think there's anything libellous here, though surely he can't really think sterilisation is the answer?
And, society has gone brand crazy, the reason is simple - people have become greedy and materialistic. So, when they see so-called celebs with things they want them too. They don't think about the consequences, just about keeping up with the Joneses, or more likely, the Beckhams.
There's always someone getting offended. Parkes is a fairly offensive individual and I don't often agree with him. But by his standards this was quite well written. I don't think there's anything libellous here, though surely he can't really think sterilisation is the answer? And, society has gone brand crazy, the reason is simple - people have become greedy and materialistic. So, when they see so-called celebs with things they want them too. They don't think about the consequences, just about keeping up with the Joneses, or more likely, the Beckhams. banjo8
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9:52pm Mon 29 Apr 13

Kakikomi says...

I actually agree, but for more reasons which adhere to common sense. If you can't afford to have kids, DON'T HAVE ANY! Maybe we should adopt (ha, ha, get it -_-) China's methods of only having one and then we can make sure that women only have one by sterilising every man and woman (or boy and girl nowadays) when they have a child. Cuts benefit costs and slows down overpopulation.
I actually agree, but for more reasons which adhere to common sense. If you can't afford to have kids, DON'T HAVE ANY! Maybe we should adopt (ha, ha, get it -_-) China's methods of only having one and then we can make sure that women only have one by sterilising every man and woman (or boy and girl nowadays) when they have a child. Cuts benefit costs and slows down overpopulation. Kakikomi
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6:38am Tue 30 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory


!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
Are you offended on other peoples behalf?

No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over.

how did you get to become an editor in the first place? ..........
Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.
I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!!
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]Are you offended on other peoples behalf? No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over. how did you get to become an editor in the first place? .......... Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.[/p][/quote]I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!! Inspirationalady28
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8:46am Tue 30 Apr 13

banjo8 says...

Whatever studies you may, or may not have carried out, it doesn't alter the fact that you are wrong and misguided in your undertsanding of the law.
Whatever studies you may, or may not have carried out, it doesn't alter the fact that you are wrong and misguided in your undertsanding of the law. banjo8
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9:36am Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory



!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
Are you offended on other peoples behalf?

No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over.

how did you get to become an editor in the first place? ..........
Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.
I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!!
A Level - PMSL that really is the funnest thing i have heard for weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]Are you offended on other peoples behalf? No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over. how did you get to become an editor in the first place? .......... Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.[/p][/quote]I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!![/p][/quote]A Level - PMSL that really is the funnest thing i have heard for weeks. the wall
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9:42am Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory



!

Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!!
Are you offended on other peoples behalf?

No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over.

how did you get to become an editor in the first place? ..........
Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.
I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!!
I'm not easily shocked or offended, - Oh hang on, not so long ago you were reporting everyone and even trying to get some of us band. Do you remember that ?

You are so wrong about the CCTV like other's were telling you.


I await for the bullying card to be played.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: The editors statement referring to the the young lady whose pram was stolen is libellous/defamatory ! Maybe Mr Parkes you should be very careful with your choice of words and what's more..how did you get to become an editor in the first place? There's still hope for me yet I guess!![/p][/quote]Are you offended on other peoples behalf? No laws have been broken here, just like no laws were broken when you started bleating on about that CCTV of the girl getting run over. how did you get to become an editor in the first place? .......... Well knowing what you can write about is a big one, also knowing a little about the laws of this land would help.[/p][/quote]I'm not easily shocked or offended, it would take something really bad to do that, but when someone starts writing something out of context then that's where I draw the line! As for knowing a little bit about the laws of this land...I've studied Criminal Law - Civil Law - Law of Contracts - Family Law and got A-Level standards in all!! As for the CCTV you mentioned, yes the footage showed the time as an hour out..it may be irrelevant to you or others, but if it was to stand up in a court of law it could become very relevant depending on the circumstances!![/p][/quote]I'm not easily shocked or offended, - Oh hang on, not so long ago you were reporting everyone and even trying to get some of us band. Do you remember that ? You are so wrong about the CCTV like other's were telling you. I await for the bullying card to be played. the wall
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9:42am Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

banjo8 wrote:
Whatever studies you may, or may not have carried out, it doesn't alter the fact that you are wrong and misguided in your undertsanding of the law.
This 100% all day long!
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Whatever studies you may, or may not have carried out, it doesn't alter the fact that you are wrong and misguided in your undertsanding of the law.[/p][/quote]This 100% all day long! the wall
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11:02am Tue 30 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."


( Toosday morn and a bit a Hamlet fer yas. )

Lou you telling porkies ?
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." ( Toosday morn and a bit a Hamlet fer yas. ) Lou you telling porkies ? Gypo.Joe
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11:03am Tue 30 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!!
Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!! Inspirationalady28
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11:35am Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!!
A little knowledge is a dangers thing. So is having a short memory. Don't you remember the news report about the young girl being killed in a Police chase..... You got very uppity over other people opinions and called for them to be banned. You trolled that story like a Queen troll.

I know the difference between band and banned. But it would seem that laughing at you and typing doesn't work to well.

Trust me when I tell you that you couldn't even get a job in the Magic Circle as a paralegal with your 'A Level standard' of law. You wouldn't even get an interview.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!![/p][/quote]A little knowledge is a dangers thing. So is having a short memory. Don't you remember the news report about the young girl being killed in a Police chase..... You got very uppity over other people opinions and called for them to be banned. You trolled that story like a Queen troll. I know the difference between band and banned. But it would seem that laughing at you and typing doesn't work to well. Trust me when I tell you that you couldn't even get a job in the Magic Circle as a paralegal with your 'A Level standard' of law. You wouldn't even get an interview. the wall
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11:39am Tue 30 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

I don't like it when my friends argue. It's just not nice in front of the children.

tHaNk yOu
I don't like it when my friends argue. It's just not nice in front of the children. tHaNk yOu Gypo.Joe
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11:44am Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

the wall wrote:
Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!!
A little knowledge is a dangers thing. So is having a short memory. Don't you remember the news report about the young girl being killed in a Police chase..... You got very uppity over other people opinions and called for them to be banned. You trolled that story like a Queen troll.

I know the difference between band and banned. But it would seem that laughing at you and typing doesn't work to well.

Trust me when I tell you that you couldn't even get a job in the Magic Circle as a paralegal with your 'A Level standard' of law. You wouldn't even get an interview.
See laughing so much I have put dangers instead of dangerous.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Haha! You all really make me laugh..The wall doesn't even know the difference between BANNED & BAND! ...and there he is trying to give a bit of gist about law? I haven't tried to have anyone BANNED ok?!!![/p][/quote]A little knowledge is a dangers thing. So is having a short memory. Don't you remember the news report about the young girl being killed in a Police chase..... You got very uppity over other people opinions and called for them to be banned. You trolled that story like a Queen troll. I know the difference between band and banned. But it would seem that laughing at you and typing doesn't work to well. Trust me when I tell you that you couldn't even get a job in the Magic Circle as a paralegal with your 'A Level standard' of law. You wouldn't even get an interview.[/p][/quote]See laughing so much I have put dangers instead of dangerous. the wall
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11:55am Tue 30 Apr 13

concerned.erith says...

come on The Wall
two
to
too

spot the difference!! ;-)
come on The Wall two to too spot the difference!! ;-) concerned.erith
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12:21pm Tue 30 Apr 13

the wall says...

concerned.erith wrote:
come on The Wall
two
to
too

spot the difference!! ;-)
LOL - Yeah I was too caught up in the moment, and really don't give two figs.

Carpe Diem.

:- )
[quote][p][bold]concerned.erith[/bold] wrote: come on The Wall two to too spot the difference!! ;-)[/p][/quote]LOL - Yeah I was too caught up in the moment, and really don't give two figs. Carpe Diem. :- ) the wall
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5:17pm Tue 30 Apr 13

lollie,erith says...

when i first read this story i thought why did the editor assume that the mother had bought the pram herself! now we know it was a shared purchase. but that aside i agree this article seems to be aimed against the mother in both examples. what about the father or the boys in prison? just seems like the usual bunch on women haters on here. sad really.
when i first read this story i thought why did the editor assume that the mother had bought the pram herself! now we know it was a shared purchase. but that aside i agree this article seems to be aimed against the mother in both examples. what about the father or the boys in prison? just seems like the usual bunch on women haters on here. sad really. lollie,erith
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6:22pm Tue 30 Apr 13

mouthalmighty says...

Lollie,erith. You took the words right out of my mouth. I didn't know how it. As usual the dads get away with no blame at all. That woman with the four sons, probably gave up cos she was damned whatever she did. I truly feel for her. Yes many women have successfully raised children. She wasn't.
Lollie,erith. You took the words right out of my mouth. I didn't know how it. As usual the dads get away with no blame at all. That woman with the four sons, probably gave up cos she was damned whatever she did. I truly feel for her. Yes many women have successfully raised children. She wasn't. mouthalmighty
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8:10pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Marty1979 says...

So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it?

As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother



In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court
So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court Marty1979
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8:20pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Inspirationalady28 says...

Why are some people getting so hyped up over a bloody pram? What has the pram got to do with banning people from breeding for heaven sake? Purchasing an expensive pram doesn't make anyone a bad parent!!!!
Why are some people getting so hyped up over a bloody pram? What has the pram got to do with banning people from breeding for heaven sake? Purchasing an expensive pram doesn't make anyone a bad parent!!!! Inspirationalady28
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8:30pm Tue 30 Apr 13

Gypo.Joe says...

Inspirationalady28 wrote:
Why are some people getting so hyped up over a bloody pram? What has the pram got to do with banning people from breeding for heaven sake? Purchasing an expensive pram doesn't make anyone a bad parent!!!!
Language Lou if you don't mind. We know you are from Lewisham but don't take liberties now.
[quote][p][bold]Inspirationalady28[/bold] wrote: Why are some people getting so hyped up over a bloody pram? What has the pram got to do with banning people from breeding for heaven sake? Purchasing an expensive pram doesn't make anyone a bad parent!!!![/p][/quote]Language Lou if you don't mind. We know you are from Lewisham but don't take liberties now. Gypo.Joe
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8:42am Wed 1 May 13

banjo8 says...

What's this pram got that makes it worth £1,200?
What's this pram got that makes it worth £1,200? banjo8
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9:05am Wed 1 May 13

PaulErith says...

Marty1979 wrote:
So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court
Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not?

So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity.
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court[/p][/quote]Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not? So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity. PaulErith
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11:40am Wed 1 May 13

banjo8 says...

PaulErith wrote:
Marty1979 wrote: So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court
Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not? So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity.
I'm with Marty1979 on this one. Of course it's vanity.
As I say, there's nothing about this pram worth £1,200 - it's all branding.
Society has gone brand mad and ultimately all it leads to is a breakdown of community and the destruction of those weaker-minded individuals among us.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court[/p][/quote]Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not? So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity.[/p][/quote]I'm with Marty1979 on this one. Of course it's vanity. As I say, there's nothing about this pram worth £1,200 - it's all branding. Society has gone brand mad and ultimately all it leads to is a breakdown of community and the destruction of those weaker-minded individuals among us. banjo8
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12:43pm Wed 1 May 13

PaulErith says...

banjo8 wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
Marty1979 wrote: So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court
Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not? So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity.
I'm with Marty1979 on this one. Of course it's vanity. As I say, there's nothing about this pram worth £1,200 - it's all branding. Society has gone brand mad and ultimately all it leads to is a breakdown of community and the destruction of those weaker-minded individuals among us.
Possibly it has been bought because of the brand, but again, if she has the money then why not. And, I just think it's wrong to criticise as I bet all the people on here who are criticising her have bought something that is 'branded' at some point - clothes, trainers, etc. Unless you can say that you never buy any 'branded' stuff, it's a bit hypocritical.

Personally, I don't touch the high brand clothes because I think they are a rip off and I'm not going to be drawn into that way of thinking, but if someone else wants to, it's their choice.
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: So because the pram was a shared purchase the mother felt she didn't need to take care of it? As mentioned, the baby won't know what they are being pushed around in. Will the child's life be that much better due to going out in a £1200 pram? It is simply vanity by the mother In the other case it was the mother not the father who lied in court[/p][/quote]Why is it vanity? If she's got the money, then why not? So,I assume if you have children, you do/would buy the cheapest of everything possible? Clothes, for example? Presumably you would only buy Primark stuff as the baby clearly doesn't care what clothes it wears, so buying anything better would be vanity.[/p][/quote]I'm with Marty1979 on this one. Of course it's vanity. As I say, there's nothing about this pram worth £1,200 - it's all branding. Society has gone brand mad and ultimately all it leads to is a breakdown of community and the destruction of those weaker-minded individuals among us.[/p][/quote]Possibly it has been bought because of the brand, but again, if she has the money then why not. And, I just think it's wrong to criticise as I bet all the people on here who are criticising her have bought something that is 'branded' at some point - clothes, trainers, etc. Unless you can say that you never buy any 'branded' stuff, it's a bit hypocritical. Personally, I don't touch the high brand clothes because I think they are a rip off and I'm not going to be drawn into that way of thinking, but if someone else wants to, it's their choice. PaulErith
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1:45pm Wed 1 May 13

banjo8 says...

Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples.
Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples. banjo8
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3:58pm Wed 1 May 13

DEBE13 says...

true
true DEBE13
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8:48am Thu 2 May 13

PaulErith says...

banjo8 wrote:
Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples.
I totally agree about the debt culture. I guess I was only talking about the specific girl being criticised when none of us know whether she's in debt or rolling in money. As a general point, what you say is correct. I see so many mates with huge credit card debts and loans, and all because they want the latest gadget or brand clothes. Personally, never had a loan, credit card or single debt in my life.
[quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples.[/p][/quote]I totally agree about the debt culture. I guess I was only talking about the specific girl being criticised when none of us know whether she's in debt or rolling in money. As a general point, what you say is correct. I see so many mates with huge credit card debts and loans, and all because they want the latest gadget or brand clothes. Personally, never had a loan, credit card or single debt in my life. PaulErith
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9:31am Thu 2 May 13

banjo8 says...

PaulErith wrote:
banjo8 wrote: Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples.
I totally agree about the debt culture. I guess I was only talking about the specific girl being criticised when none of us know whether she's in debt or rolling in money. As a general point, what you say is correct. I see so many mates with huge credit card debts and loans, and all because they want the latest gadget or brand clothes. Personally, never had a loan, credit card or single debt in my life.
Fair point, well made.
I think we can all agree about the debt culture. Perhaps Parkes was a bit unfair to target this particular girl - I don't know if he knows anything about her or not.
As you say, if she's got the cash personally then she's entitled to do exactly what she wants with it.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]banjo8[/bold] wrote: Of course it's their choice and if they can afford it good luck to them. But, and this is the point, more feeble-minded folks are sucked into the same trap and they can't afford it. The result then is that allow their spending to run away with them and end up in huge debt. The same general problem is currently afflicting the whole country - everyoen is materialistic and greedy - they just want more and more (keeping up with the Joneses) - the result is an economy which can't support itself - simples.[/p][/quote]I totally agree about the debt culture. I guess I was only talking about the specific girl being criticised when none of us know whether she's in debt or rolling in money. As a general point, what you say is correct. I see so many mates with huge credit card debts and loans, and all because they want the latest gadget or brand clothes. Personally, never had a loan, credit card or single debt in my life.[/p][/quote]Fair point, well made. I think we can all agree about the debt culture. Perhaps Parkes was a bit unfair to target this particular girl - I don't know if he knows anything about her or not. As you say, if she's got the cash personally then she's entitled to do exactly what she wants with it. banjo8
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10:10am Thu 2 May 13

the wall says...

Money doesn't buy class, taste or status.

The Grandparents and Mother have failed their daughter, by not educating her on the value of money. Which she has proved by not looking after this pram and buying a padlock. She should have bought a Cheaper pram and then with the rest of the money set up a trust fund for the child. Instead of blowing all that money on one item. Very chavvy and self centred.

Other opinions are available, but not necessarily valid.
Money doesn't buy class, taste or status. The Grandparents and Mother have failed their daughter, by not educating her on the value of money. Which she has proved by not looking after this pram and buying a padlock. She should have bought a Cheaper pram and then with the rest of the money set up a trust fund for the child. Instead of blowing all that money on one item. Very chavvy and self centred. Other opinions are available, but not necessarily valid. the wall
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