Dartford man pleads for help to come home after balcony fall in Turkey (From News Shopper)

Can anyone explain why this isn't covered by his insurance?

reasonable75 wrote:
Can anyone explain why this isn't covered by his insurance?

It did say in a previous item on this poor guy that the insurance didn't cover
'balcony incidents'.
Another get out by the insurance b@stards!

Ditto lord righteous

Bet it was hidden in the small print

What is a "balcony incident" I can understand if someone was mucking about or drunk like that girl a year or so ago (although she hadn't bothered with insurance) but in this case was the balcony safe etc

People dont just fall off a balcony do they now. Was it drink or drug related is my question ?

charlie is my mums ex.. and im her daughter but talking about us isnt going to help anyone. its pathetic. im only 14 and your a bunch of adults so get a grip. you dont understand how much we have all been through so you have no right to judge my family! we still love charlie and hope he gets better so lets leave it at that. ok

Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

Slander!! Malicious comments and threats !! How sad some of the people who read this news paper really are!! These are all issues that can be taken to the police!!! The story is about charlie who is in turkey in hospital needing an urgent operation and all you can say is nasty things about myself!! Crazy batty you need to get a life and stop snooping on peoples face book walls what has gone on between myself and charlie is none of you business and as you can see has upset my daughter!! Charlie's mum has been desperately trying to get help for charlie no insurance covers balcony falls regardless of suicide drink drugs or an accident look it up!!! I have donated towards getting charlie home in my own way and I'm sure giving up a 30 pound a month gym fee would not do anybody any good!! Obviously you have so many issues that you can't see beyond your own nose! Have you donated towards this? Or are you that callous that you can slander charlie and myself without trying to help! There's lots of good kind hearted people out there that have and are helping towards getting charlie home what sort of person would I be if I didn't want him home and on the road to recovery regardless of any problems that may or may not of happened you all really do need to sit and rethink the comments you have made on here as one day it may be you needing help!

Well said Levi's.
Its the insurance company that everyone should be throwing insults at.
Cannot believe they won't fly him home.
So sad, hope he gets the treatment he needs.

oh and for those asking about the insurance company they tend to use the wording exposure to danger which seems to get them to get them out of a lot of claims or hazardous acvity they can use this to cover a lot of accidents unless you are being a hero trying to save someone then they will pay out!! so i suggest we all in future read the policies we buy instead of presuming they cover everything

Why should the British tax payer pay for his 2nd Op at Kings there are people that work 45 hours or more hours every week and pay there taxes that can not have op's that they need. so why should this man be made a priority when this never happened in this country. If he fell off the balcony due to poor maintenance of the Hotel then it should be down to them and there insurance company to fund his flight home and 2nd op. If it wasn't cause of poor maintenance of the balcony then he should have to also pay for his 2nd op at Kings.

In an earlier article, his family said he had told the doctors that he had jumped off the balcony. If this is true, the consequences would not be covered by any insurance company, as it would be considered an act of self-harm. If, however, he fell off a balcony because it was too low, not fixed in place properly etc, then the hotel would be liable and should be sued. Thus, there is no need for the insurance company to cover / pay out for any type of 'balcony incident' as there is always someone whose negligence is to blame. I have sympathy for the gentleman being so badly injured far from home, but he and his family shouldn't be criticising the insurance company who are, in this case, quite correct in refusing to pay his repatriation costs.
I hope someone comes up with the money soon. Maybe the Newsshopper could contribute to apologise for not removing the dubious comments sooner? (The comments which break the Site Terms due to being malicious, regardless of truth or otherwise.)

JH1964 wrote:
Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out.

Have a read:

http://www.fco.gov.u
k/en/travel-and-livi
ng-abroad/when-thing
s-go-wrong/sick-inju
red


Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid.

Terms and Conditions:
Reckless or Malicious Acts
We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act.

General exclusions:
13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including
anxiety or depression);

19. Any claim that results from:
your suicide or attempted suicide;
you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save
someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Could one of his relatives / friends etc enlighten us as to what he was doing when he fell:-
Mucking about?
Drunk?
Leaning on rail which collapsed?
Trying to take his own life?

The first time this story appeared I said this "I sympathise with this family's plight but you have to ask why insurance companies now don't cover 'balcony incidents'. I can't recall the last time one happened in the UK but abroad Brits are doing it in great numbers and it isn't hard to figure out why. I hope the family are able to borrow the money and bring him home but for me I'm afraid there are other causes I would rather donate to.”. I am prepared to give £50 if someone WHO KNOWS, not some guess work, actually says what happened, how and what time of the day. If people expect donations then people who might donate can be expected to judge whether it was a reckless act that caused the injury. I think it is only fair if you expect money from strangers that they don't read two stories that exclude the actual detail of what happened.

It would take a very hard hearted person not to feel some sympathy with the plight of this young man and his family and I do sympathise. However, people don't just "fall" over balconies! I recall in the very first report of this that there was mention that the young man concerned had recently lost his father and was not in the best frame of mind. Clearly this is not therefore a case of the insurance company being difficult - the reality is that why should they pay out for someone who acted may have acted recklessly!? Then there is mention of "sue the hotel" - errr, why???? (by the way good luck with suing a Turkish hotel through the Turkish courts - it would take years). People need to stop looking to blame other parties for this outcome and take responsibility for their own actions. Of course I wish them well, and yes of course once he comes home, which he will, then he should receive the very best care our NHS can provide, that is his right regardless of where the accident happened.

Obviously rare cockneyguvner you are unable to be polite! you quote tags on people you know nothing about I find that very insulting, if however you had something intelligent to say I would truly be intrigued. obviously your vocabulary hasn't risen above the play ground slang you read in trashy magazines! In future I suggest you keep your belittling comments to your self!

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours!
You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print.

The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated?


reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation.

So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown.


So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours! You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print. The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated? reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation. So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown. So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

Calm down dear!

I'll just like to point out the hypocracy in your statement, "This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init."

That seems to be your staple tactic on this website. For example, how many times do you criticise someone's spelling or grammar. Funnily enough I read a comment you wrote in the last hour where you did exactly that. (ist 1st). I can see only one reason for this; namely to try to put them down and make yourself look big.

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours! You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print. The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated? reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation. So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown. So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

Calm down dear! I'll just like to point out the hypocracy in your statement, "This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init." That seems to be your staple tactic on this website. For example, how many times do you criticise someone's spelling or grammar. Funnily enough I read a comment you wrote in the last hour where you did exactly that. (ist 1st). I can see only one reason for this; namely to try to put them down and make yourself look big.

Don't try digging me out. You give it but can't take it. You're such a muppet.


Tell me what part of London you think North Woolwich is in?

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours! You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print. The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated? reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation. So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown. So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

That's really funny.

PaulErith you've been sucked in, chewed up and spat out. You have some issues.

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours! You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print. The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated? reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation. So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown. So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

Calm down dear! I'll just like to point out the hypocracy in your statement, "This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init." That seems to be your staple tactic on this website. For example, how many times do you criticise someone's spelling or grammar. Funnily enough I read a comment you wrote in the last hour where you did exactly that. (ist 1st). I can see only one reason for this; namely to try to put them down and make yourself look big.

One more thing, instead of taking things out context why not read all the comments in the other news report.

Oh but you don't do that do you?

born n breed wrote:

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

the wall wrote:

JH1964 wrote: Can you please stop all the slanderous comments - this is NOT what the story is about. This young man needs hospital treatment not accusations thrown at him while he lays in hospital with a broken back & NO DRINK WAS INVOLVED. His Mother is trying her hardest in a foreign country with NO help from the British Embassy or Insurance Company to get her son home for urgent surgery. Please show some compassion

British Embassies are not there for bailing people out. Have a read: http://www.fco.gov.u k/en/travel-and-livi ng-abroad/when-thing s-go-wrong/sick-inju red Also Virgin Travel Insurance is arranged by Insure & Go Insurance Service Ltd and underwritten by Mapfre Asistencia. Mapfre Asistencia is a leading international insurer with their head office in Madrid. Terms and Conditions: Reckless or Malicious Acts We will not pay for any claim arising or resulting from you being involved in any malicious, reckless, illegal or criminal act. General exclusions: 13. We will not cover claims if you or any person insured on your policy: - any psychiatric or psychological condition (including anxiety or depression); 19. Any claim that results from: your suicide or attempted suicide; you injuring yourself deliberately or putting yourself in danger (unless you are trying to save someone’s life); or you fighting (except in self-defence).

Get a life! You really are a sad individual. You go to the bother of looking up and quoting all this stuff in some misguided illusion that it makes you look intelligent. This story is about a poor lad who needs an operation. Obviously insurance policies don't cover incidents where one has deliberately put themself in danger. However, it's not really yours or my place to judge as we weren't there and don't know exactly how this happened. The main thing is that people are trying to make good efforts to raise the money. Good luck to them.

The irony of you telling me to "get a life" is that I'll probably take yours! You are correct, I have no friends. I am lonely and sad. I am currently sitting in a cave by myself, sustaining myself on beetles, powering my laptop by an ingenious array of pulleys and flywheels constructed from small lizards and tree sap from the local flora. I came here to escape my family, friends, industry associates, acquaintances and the lady next door who was spying on me, in the hope of completing my novel titled "why are there so many d1ckheads called Paul that live in Erith?" I have made the dedication out to you Paul and will endeavour to send you a copy once it goes to print. The trouble is you're confusing your own opinion with facts....... again. Are you mentally spasticated? reasonable75 asked a question (see first post) I knew where the answer was so c and p'ed the said sections onto this site, took all of 2 minutes. Having known someone that has been through the same situation. So where have I judged this person? That's right I haven't. This is just one of your attempts to try and make yourself look big and ard init. Your so full of sh1t that I bet his eyes are Brown. So off you go now little boy and stop drinking your watery faeces.

That's really funny. PaulErith you've been sucked in, chewed up and spat out. You have some issues.

Quite the contrary my dear fellow. I don't think that I was the one sucked in. That post was a rant and a half!

No. I think you'll find that you started it and the the wall ended it in a great post. You're just trying to save face know.

And you didn't have a rant at them first. Saying 'Get a life! A phrase retards say to other people who they don't know anything about. It's just a dumb phrase to say because they can't think of anything else but just want your attention. The truth is the people who tell others to 'get a life' are the ones lacking the life.

You got done big time! LOL.

Outandabout wrote:
The first time this story appeared I said this "I sympathise with this family's plight but you have to ask why insurance companies now don't cover 'balcony incidents'. I can't recall the last time one happened in the UK but abroad Brits are doing it in great numbers and it isn't hard to figure out why. I hope the family are able to borrow the money and bring him home but for me I'm afraid there are other causes I would rather donate to.”. I am prepared to give £50 if someone WHO KNOWS, not some guess work, actually says what happened, how and what time of the day. If people expect donations then people who might donate can be expected to judge whether it was a reckless act that caused the injury. I think it is only fair if you expect money from strangers that they don't read two stories that exclude the actual detail of what happened.

Well. Now that the egos have been massaged, can we get back to the story. I hope those 'in the know' are reading the pertinent comments and a response to the earlier post is forthcoming. there seems to be a reluctance to engage on what caused the injuries.

Jesus Christ how many vindictive nasty people out there? Im ashamed to read those who have written such horrid comments about Charlie. Hes a good lad, who doesnt deserve such comments or doubt thrown in. He didnt jump, nor were drink or drugs involved as he was tested for them. The toxicology report came back as a total NEGATIVE. So cast that Assumption out of that lonely brain cell. If you have anything negative to say, then dont bother, as Charlie needs all the Positive energy sent... not you foolish negative rubbish awaiting a responce... how sad these Trolls are.....

"PaulErith you've been sucked in, chewed up and spat out. You have some issues.”


Only some issues !! ROFL
You could write a book on them, someone probably has in fact.

levi's wrote:
Obviously rare cockneyguvner you are unable to be polite! you quote tags on people you know nothing about I find that very insulting, if however you had something intelligent to say I would truly be intrigued. obviously your vocabulary hasn't risen above the play ground slang you read in trashy magazines! In future I suggest you keep your belittling comments to your self!

Ohh get you. I have one word for you levi...testiclelocks
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friendsofthefamily wrote:
Jesus Christ how many vindictive nasty people out there? Im ashamed to read those who have written such horrid comments about Charlie. Hes a good lad, who doesnt deserve such comments or doubt thrown in. He didnt jump, nor were drink or drugs involved as he was tested for them. The toxicology report came back as a total NEGATIVE. So cast that Assumption out of that lonely brain cell. If you have anything negative to say, then dont bother, as Charlie needs all the Positive energy sent... not you foolish negative rubbish awaiting a responce... how sad these Trolls are.....

So can YOU let us know what happened? Is it such an unreasonable question?

Oldchap wrote:

friendsofthefamily wrote:
Jesus Christ how many vindictive nasty people out there? Im ashamed to read those who have written such horrid comments about Charlie. Hes a good lad, who doesnt deserve such comments or doubt thrown in. He didnt jump, nor were drink or drugs involved as he was tested for them. The toxicology report came back as a total NEGATIVE. So cast that Assumption out of that lonely brain cell. If you have anything negative to say, then dont bother, as Charlie needs all the Positive energy sent... not you foolish negative rubbish awaiting a responce... how sad these Trolls are.....

So can YOU let us know what happened? Is it such an unreasonable question?

I make you right. I was genuinely prepared to donate £50 but somehow feel there is something to hide so I won't donate. There is nothing negative or vindiictive about what I have said and your comment is right, it isn't unreasonable to ask when the family are looking for donations

Strange that his friends & family were quick to add "certain" comments, but no-one has enlightened us as to exactly what happened

Is the question too difficult?

reasonable75 wrote:
Strange that his friends & family were quick to add "certain" comments, but no-one has enlightened us as to exactly what happened

Is the question too difficult?

The one thing I would say is does it actually matter what happened exactly? Even if he had been drinking (which I'm not implying he was), would it really matter? I'm sure we have all done stupid things, and it doesn't mean that we wouldn't be entitled to compassion and help.

PaulErith wrote:

reasonable75 wrote: Strange that his friends & family were quick to add "certain" comments, but no-one has enlightened us as to exactly what happened Is the question too difficult?

The one thing I would say is does it actually matter what happened exactly? Even if he had been drinking (which I'm not implying he was), would it really matter? I'm sure we have all done stupid things, and it doesn't mean that we wouldn't be entitled to compassion and help.

Cause it does. Christ on a bike man!

Do you just hand out money to anyone that asks?

Do insurance companies cover stupidity?

Oldchap wrote:
Do insurance companies cover stupidity?

Well Oldchap they do insure women drivers.............
.nuff said.

the wall wrote:

PaulErith wrote:

reasonable75 wrote: Strange that his friends & family were quick to add "certain" comments, but no-one has enlightened us as to exactly what happened Is the question too difficult?

The one thing I would say is does it actually matter what happened exactly? Even if he had been drinking (which I'm not implying he was), would it really matter? I'm sure we have all done stupid things, and it doesn't mean that we wouldn't be entitled to compassion and help.

Cause it does. Christ on a bike man!

Do you just hand out money to anyone that asks?

I know what you're saying fella, and can agree with you in some ways. Actually I'm probably too soft when it comes to helping people out. I'm always handing money out and lending it to people. But I guess I'm saying that I still have compassion for this guy whether or not it was his fault. If you saw a drunk guy fall off a wall he was climbing and laying there dying, you wouldn't just leave him. You'd still call the ambulance and hope that he's ok. I guess I'm saying we all do really stupid things sometimes but some of get lucky and some don't.

But we STILL don't know what happened

Oldchap wrote:
But we STILL don't know what happened

Nope we dont, but I smell bullchit on this story.

Guess who ;) AGAIN ! wrote:
People dont just fall off a balcony do they now. Was it drink or drug related is my question ?

...the same question is put to you for your inane comments - drink or drugs ? rofl!!

...join-up the dots and see the failed-blogger at work!! chewed-and-spat-out!
! and erased from the archives!! rofl!! :)

This is just a guess. I could be wrong but whoever replies 'on behalf of the family' please avoid accusing me of being vindictive, it's just not the right word. My guess is that when the Consulate found out what happened and HOW, they offered limited support because they thought 'serves you right'. The insurers felt much the same and didn't cover it. I was more than prepared to donate and have asked twice to get the details of what happened but my messages are being ignored, along with everyone else who is asking the same. So I can only conclude that the details are such that the familiy KNOW that if the story is told that people will make a judgement and that judgement will be 'oh if it happened like that then it serves him right for doing it'. Newsshopper: YOU have a duty here. If someone comes to you asking to publicise a cry for funds then you have to ensure it is bone -fide and you have to ensure the whole story is being told otherwise you do your readers an injustice and you open the door to every bleeding heart who wants money. To me I make the same judgement as I do when some scrote says 'I lost all my money, can I have money for the bus home' I refuse and see them time and time again doing the same to others. It's not about not wanting to help. Its about not giving my earned cash to someone who caused an accident because they were doing something stupid , which is my GUESS, it doesn't matter if they were sober or not. I GUESS he fell whilst being a pratt and I would rather give my money, emphasis on 'my money'. to someone who had an unfortunate accident whilst on holiday and needs to return home. Don't go screaming because you aint getting it!,