Lewisham Council considers ways to protect 'decimated' pubs

Liam Curran with landlord Ian Moore at the General Napier Pub, Forest Hill Liam Curran with landlord Ian Moore at the General Napier Pub, Forest Hill

LEWISHAM borough has lost 53 pubs in the past decade warns a councillor who says tough new rules are needed to stop them being decimated further.

Councillor Liam Curran led an inquiry into the problem and the sustainable development committee he chairs has published a report setting out ways to curb the decline.

News Shopper has previously highlighted the loss of Deptford's boozers, but pub problems are mirrored across the borough, which now has just 82 left.

Mr Curran said: "Pubs in this borough, and across London, are on the brink of decimation."

He said: "It’s a myth that most are economically failing. We have significant examples of rough old pubs that have been turned around and are now very successful."

Cllr Curran dismissed the perception that pubs are closing because people don't want to go to them, pointing to success stories like Catford Bridge Tavern which has been turned around under new management.

But there have been high-profile wrangles over others, including the Baring Hall Hotel in Grove Park which was saved from the wrecking ball by campaigners last year with hours to spare.

London pubs protection officer for Camra Dale Ingram said: "London's land values mean that even thriving and popular pubs are being sold for the development value of flats and housing."

He said: "Many pubs are being run down deliberately or overloaded with debt to defeat viability tests."

The committee has recommended six ways of preserving pubs to Lewisham's mayor, including using new planning guidelines to make developers prove why a building cannot stay as a drinking establishment.

A Mayor and Cabinet meeting considered the report last night (Oct 3) and a decision is due at a later date.

But Cllr Curran warned: "We don't have a lot of time so a decision has to be made soon to make sure we have a robust planning regime and give pubs de facto protection."

 


Lewisham's biggest pub losses by ward 2001-2011

Whitefoot lost 2 pubs - 100 per cent of its total.

Evelyn (Deptford) lost 16 pubs - 76 per cent of its total.

Telegraph Hill lost 5 pubs - 71 per cent of its total.

Downham lost 2 pubs - 67 per cent of its total.

Rushey Green lost 5 pubs - 55 per cent of its total.

Lewisham Central lost 5 pubs - 42 per cent of its total.

Grove Park lost 1 pub - 33 per cent of its total.

Sydenham lost 2 pubs - 29 per cent of its total.

New Cross lost 6 pubs - 28 per cent of its total.

Brockley lost 4 pubs - 27 per cent of its total.

Comments(6)

goldenbroomboy says...
2:55pm Fri 5 Oct 12

It's New Labours smoking ban that has closed all these pubs. RIP The Green Man in particular.

the wall says...
3:33pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Look at the price of beer in a super market compared to the pub. Why can the supermarkets offer such low price?

(Tinfoil hat on)
This is a government plan to get us off the streets and staying at home were we can be watched through TV boxes and the internet...... (Tinfoil hat off)

giantcatbear99 says...
10:31pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Oh, the irony. Just today (5th Oct) we learned that the fantastic Catford Bridge Tavern is now under threat of being turned into a retail outlet and flats. Can Cllr Curran help us fight this? The staff have worked so hard to create such a great pub in a location that badly needed one. It would be a terrible shame to see it go.

goldenbroomboy says...
12:24am Sat 6 Oct 12

giantcatbear99 wrote:
Oh, the irony. Just today (5th Oct) we learned that the fantastic Catford Bridge Tavern is now under threat of being turned into a retail outlet and flats. Can Cllr Curran help us fight this? The staff have worked so hard to create such a great pub in a location that badly needed one. It would be a terrible shame to see it go.
The Green Man is a building site, the Tigers Head has been demolished & a block of apartments built upon the site. This is Hattie Harpy & New Labour's legacy to Lewisham, yet the borough's voters still elect a Labour Council. It is the Labour Party that has destroyed Lewisham & Deptford's pubs. It's your heritage not mine that the Labour Party has destroyed .

Invicta58 says...
10:03am Sat 6 Oct 12

goldenbroomboy wrote:
giantcatbear99 wrote:
Oh, the irony. Just today (5th Oct) we learned that the fantastic Catford Bridge Tavern is now under threat of being turned into a retail outlet and flats. Can Cllr Curran help us fight this? The staff have worked so hard to create such a great pub in a location that badly needed one. It would be a terrible shame to see it go.
The Green Man is a building site, the Tigers Head has been demolished & a block of apartments built upon the site. This is Hattie Harpy & New Labour's legacy to Lewisham, yet the borough's voters still elect a Labour Council. It is the Labour Party that has destroyed Lewisham & Deptford's pubs. It's your heritage not mine that the Labour Party has destroyed .
Totally agree but George Osborn's VAT hike to 20% didn't help either. I can't see any party reversing the smoking ban either. They are all guilty.

Liam Curran says...
9:32pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Hello, I'm afraid Goldenbroomboy and Giantcatbear99 (there can't be another 98 can there?) are both wrong. While there are other factors that mean there aren't as many pubs as there used to be, the fact is that most pubs in London, and indeed the rest of the country, are under threat because of the beer tie and the value of the land that they stand on. The beer tie forces landlords to give the lion's share of their profits to the pubco that holds the lease. This means that they can squeeze every last drop out of the landlord and when they fail they go to the local council and say: "Oh, we can't run a pub there anymore because it doesn't make any money." Then they make a fortune because it's worth a fortune when it's turned into a block of flats. Take a look at the report but I will happily have a public debate with anyone who wants to challenge what I'm saying. Cllr Liam Curran.

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