Erith homeowner shocked when 285-foot wind turbine appears near his house

News Shopper: Mr Saunders adjacent to the site of the wind turbine in Erith Mr Saunders adjacent to the site of the wind turbine in Erith

IMAGINE the shock if one day you looked out of your bedroom window and a giant 285-foot wind turbine had appeared.

This is exactly what happened to Slade Green homeowner Graham Saunders on Thursday (September 27) afternoon.

Forty-four-year-old Mr Saunders, who lives in Snipe Close on the Howbury Estate, initially thought his eyes had deceived him when he saw the turbine, which is the height of 20 double-decker buses.

The print finisher said: “I got up on Thursday morning and there were cranes and such out there and at 2pm in the afternoon all we could see was the wind turbine.

“As the crow flies it’s about 300-yards away from our house.

“It really is in your face and it’s going to be there forever - no local residents have heard about it at all.

“We didn’t exactly have a skyline to begin with but now all we have is a wind turbine.”

Besides the intrusive nature of the energy-saving turbine, Mr Saunders is worried about the impact it will have on the value of his house, which he owns.

He added: “If we want to sell the house and prospective buyers come round to view it, the first thing they will notice is the giant wind turbine outside.

“I doubt that will be a selling point.

“If the council came back down and said you will save money on your electricity then great, but it’s just one company decided they want to save money.”

Mrs Saunders, who lives with his wife and children, said another worry is possible noise pollution from the turbine when it is turned on.

Permission to build the 500kw turbine, which is located on the site of Aggregate Industries Ltd in Manor Road, was given by Bexley Council’s development control team on May 22.

A Bexley Council spokeswoman said: “Consultation did take place but not as far away as where Mr Saunders lives, as there is no requirement to do so. A site notice was also displayed.

“A planning application was submitted and approved, in accordance with the legal requirements, for this area of industrial land between Manor Road and the River - which had previously been earmarked as being suitable for such use.”

Estates manager for the Aggregates Industries Erith facility Robert Westell said: “During the planning process for this turbine we completed a number of studies and assessments to ensure that the site was suitable for a turbine of this scale.

“We submitted a detailed planning application to Bexley Council and following a period of statutory consultation, we received planning consent in May this year.”

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1:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

gemmy says...

The house is in Slade Green - I doubt that is much of a selling point either
The house is in Slade Green - I doubt that is much of a selling point either gemmy
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1:21pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Outandabout says...

The firm is at postcode DA8 2AD and on Google maps it shows loads of houses between this man and the company. He is some distance from it and it seems the only one reported to be complaining. No wonder the council said "Consultation did take place but not as far away as where Mr Saunders lives, as there is no requirement to do so."
The firm is at postcode DA8 2AD and on Google maps it shows loads of houses between this man and the company. He is some distance from it and it seems the only one reported to be complaining. No wonder the council said "Consultation did take place but not as far away as where Mr Saunders lives, as there is no requirement to do so." Outandabout
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2:03pm Tue 2 Oct 12

melhow says...

Slade Green is actually a lovely place to live and has a lovely village feel. The wind turbine is awful, it's so big and ugly and you can see it from the other side of Slade Green. The Wind turbine has been placed along Manor Road and isn't in operation yet, but will be noisy when it is.
Nobody knew it was going to be erected so it was a shock when it suddenly appeared. No one in the area appears to have been consulted but this is normal for Bexley Council as they always keep us in the dark! I can understand Mr Saunders views.
Slade Green is actually a lovely place to live and has a lovely village feel. The wind turbine is awful, it's so big and ugly and you can see it from the other side of Slade Green. The Wind turbine has been placed along Manor Road and isn't in operation yet, but will be noisy when it is. Nobody knew it was going to be erected so it was a shock when it suddenly appeared. No one in the area appears to have been consulted but this is normal for Bexley Council as they always keep us in the dark! I can understand Mr Saunders views. melhow
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5:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

disappointed1 says...

We service providers at the Howbury centre have been involved a lot over the past year and more with the Council regarding the 'redevelopment ' in Slade Green, and NEVER have heard mention of this turbine. As we are becoming very familiar with, our caring Council will bury anything it knows will be unpopular . Why are the residents of this Community continually treated with such little regard or respect - its a disgrace.
We service providers at the Howbury centre have been involved a lot over the past year and more with the Council regarding the 'redevelopment ' in Slade Green, and NEVER have heard mention of this turbine. As we are becoming very familiar with, our caring Council will bury anything it knows will be unpopular . Why are the residents of this Community continually treated with such little regard or respect - its a disgrace. disappointed1
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5:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

needsalife says...

Gemmy. What is the point of your comment. I have visited slade green howbury a few times and found it quite comfortable. Yes there are undesirables in the area just as there are in EVERY neighbourhood so expand your knowledge and grow up. Sad about the wind turbine. Bad luck.
Gemmy. What is the point of your comment. I have visited slade green howbury a few times and found it quite comfortable. Yes there are undesirables in the area just as there are in EVERY neighbourhood so expand your knowledge and grow up. Sad about the wind turbine. Bad luck. needsalife
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5:59pm Tue 2 Oct 12

sgreenres says...

I live in Canada road right next to this monstrosity!! How dare they put it so close to residents without any public consultations (i did not hear or any) or even a letter through our doors! The noise is my main worry! Mr Saunders has every right to complain!! 'Gemmy' what was the point of your comment??? and to Outandabout would you like this turbine 300 meters from YOUR house!!!! Whoever gave permission for this thing to be put up had no regards to the local residence at all!! RANT OVER!!!! From a very angry resident!
I live in Canada road right next to this monstrosity!! How dare they put it so close to residents without any public consultations (i did not hear or any) or even a letter through our doors! The noise is my main worry! Mr Saunders has every right to complain!! 'Gemmy' what was the point of your comment??? and to Outandabout would you like this turbine 300 meters from YOUR house!!!! Whoever gave permission for this thing to be put up had no regards to the local residence at all!! RANT OVER!!!! From a very angry resident! sgreenres
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6:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12

takeitdown says...

gemmy we have plenty of tower blocks in the surronding area you can do a running jump off...
gemmy we have plenty of tower blocks in the surronding area you can do a running jump off... takeitdown
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10:56pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Local lady says...

It's such a shame when people attack the residents of Slade Green and Erith. The area has such a lot of history and the community is still close. Incomers should try to integrate more and enjoy the area. I was born in Erith and brought up in Slade Green and have fond memories of being the area. The first house I bought was in Erith and again the neighbours there were really good to newly weds.
Good luck with any campaign to get rid of this monster that is so close to homes. Could it not have been errected closer to the Thames on the marshes near Crayford?
It's such a shame when people attack the residents of Slade Green and Erith. The area has such a lot of history and the community is still close. Incomers should try to integrate more and enjoy the area. I was born in Erith and brought up in Slade Green and have fond memories of being the area. The first house I bought was in Erith and again the neighbours there were really good to newly weds. Good luck with any campaign to get rid of this monster that is so close to homes. Could it not have been errected closer to the Thames on the marshes near Crayford? Local lady
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12:45pm Wed 3 Oct 12

MarcMyWords says...

If a 95 metre high mobile phone mast went up without consulting local residents it would make the national press. To an extent I don't see that a 95 metre high wind turbine is any different, especially when you consider that residents will not benefit from its installation (unlike potentially a new phone) and it will generate noise.

Whilst Bexley Council state that consultation did take place, my guess is that means only immediately adjacent commercial properties received a letter and a site notice was placed immediately next to the site. So whilst people can see it from 500 metres away, only those lucky enough to pass the site during a 3 week period could have made any comments, which is dreadful.

It's the classic north-south divide - there's not a chance in hell that Bexley Council would've granted permission for a 95 metre high turbine so close to homes in Bexley or Sidcup!
If a 95 metre high mobile phone mast went up without consulting local residents it would make the national press. To an extent I don't see that a 95 metre high wind turbine is any different, especially when you consider that residents will not benefit from its installation (unlike potentially a new phone) and it will generate noise. Whilst Bexley Council state that consultation did take place, my guess is that means only immediately adjacent commercial properties received a letter and a site notice was placed immediately next to the site. So whilst people can see it from 500 metres away, only those lucky enough to pass the site during a 3 week period could have made any comments, which is dreadful. It's the classic north-south divide - there's not a chance in hell that Bexley Council would've granted permission for a 95 metre high turbine so close to homes in Bexley or Sidcup! MarcMyWords
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1:12pm Wed 3 Oct 12

familystillthere says...

Don’t know if this turbine is to generate electricity for one business or part of a money making project, but you have my sympathy. I used to live in Bexley and still have family and friends there. I now live in the North West. Wind turbines and wind farms are a blight on our lives up here. Home is precious wherever you are and your enjoyment of it shouldn’t be destroyed by someone else.

Get past the all ‘green’ is good nonsense from the wind industry and politicians and what you’ll discover is that wind turbines are virtually useless as a sensible way of generating electricity and only exist because they are a subsidy scam paid for by all of us through higher than needed electricity bills. Up to now wind farms have been a rural problem where we have banks of 400plus foot high turbines imposed against local wishes. Unfortunately it seems that the problem of large unwanted wind turbines is spreading to urban areas as well.

There are properties in our area that have been on sale (advertised in the property section of the local paper) for a very long time now. This may or may not be due to the threat of more wind farm development near them. Who can say? I have been told of a property sale that fell through because the buyers found out about a proposed wind farm nearby.

What is not in dispute is the decisions by the Valuation Office Agency to move certain houses close to wind farms into lower council tax bands are the first official recognition that wind turbines can lower the value of homes nearby.

Property experts have long acknowledged the harmful effect of wind farms on property prices, however the association has until now been dismissed by the wind industry as conjecture.

For those who think wind turbines are worth the cost because they are green, cheap and eco friendly, Prof Gordon Hughes, a former senior adviser on energy to the World Bank, now a professor of economics at Edinburgh found that to pursue our Climate Change Act target, reducing Britain’s CO2 emissions by 80 per cent by 2050 would cost us £124 billion by 2020. That is £5,000 for every household in the land. This is not just to build tens of thousands of highly subsidised wind turbines, but also for the open cycle gas fired power stations needed to provide back up. To guarantee the same amount of power from combined cycle gas fired plants would cost £13 billion, barely a tenth as much.

Furthermore Prof Hughes explains ramping the back up gas plants up and down would mean running them very inefficiently giving off so much CO2 that we could end up increasing our overall emissions rather than reducing them.

On those countries starting to get a nasty hangover from the wind and renewables party,
European Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger has said recently Germany must rein in the runaway costs of subsidising electricity from renewable sources or risk overburdening consumers.

The subsidies have encouraged a rapid rise in renewable installations in Europe’s biggest economy, which already has the second highest power prices in the EU.

Is this really what we want in the UK? An uncontrolled rush to covering the country (urban and rural areas) in wind turbines for no benefit. Fuel bills much higher than they need to be because of subsidy.

Please email, facebook, twitter and talk to all your family, contacts and friends about windfarms. Just because they don’t have a wind turbine near their home does not mean they are not directly affected by wind turbines in other ways. Most notably high electricity bills.

We’ve all bought the line over many years from vested interests that wind power is clean, cheap and good. Only when the general public realises what a scam wind power is and how much it is already costs and how much more it will cost us all in the future can this lunacy be stopped. Being against wind turbines is not nimby. Its common good sense whether you live in the town or country..

What should be stopped is the windification of the British Isles full stop.

Please write to your MP asking awkward questions about the wind turbine scam and why it is being allowed.

http://findyourmp.pa
rliament.uk/ for your MP’s details
http://www.nowind.or
g.uk/ for a national anti wind farm site
http://www.epaw.org/ for a European anti wind farm site.
Don’t know if this turbine is to generate electricity for one business or part of a money making project, but you have my sympathy. I used to live in Bexley and still have family and friends there. I now live in the North West. Wind turbines and wind farms are a blight on our lives up here. Home is precious wherever you are and your enjoyment of it shouldn’t be destroyed by someone else. Get past the all ‘green’ is good nonsense from the wind industry and politicians and what you’ll discover is that wind turbines are virtually useless as a sensible way of generating electricity and only exist because they are a subsidy scam paid for by all of us through higher than needed electricity bills. Up to now wind farms have been a rural problem where we have banks of 400plus foot high turbines imposed against local wishes. Unfortunately it seems that the problem of large unwanted wind turbines is spreading to urban areas as well. There are properties in our area that have been on sale (advertised in the property section of the local paper) for a very long time now. This may or may not be due to the threat of more wind farm development near them. Who can say? I have been told of a property sale that fell through because the buyers found out about a proposed wind farm nearby. What is not in dispute is the decisions by the Valuation Office Agency to move certain houses close to wind farms into lower council tax bands are the first official recognition that wind turbines can lower the value of homes nearby. Property experts have long acknowledged the harmful effect of wind farms on property prices, however the association has until now been dismissed by the wind industry as conjecture. For those who think wind turbines are worth the cost because they are green, cheap and eco friendly, Prof Gordon Hughes, a former senior adviser on energy to the World Bank, now a professor of economics at Edinburgh found that to pursue our Climate Change Act target, reducing Britain’s CO2 emissions by 80 per cent by 2050 would cost us £124 billion by 2020. That is £5,000 for every household in the land. This is not just to build tens of thousands of highly subsidised wind turbines, but also for the open cycle gas fired power stations needed to provide back up. To guarantee the same amount of power from combined cycle gas fired plants would cost £13 billion, barely a tenth as much. Furthermore Prof Hughes explains ramping the back up gas plants up and down would mean running them very inefficiently giving off so much CO2 that we could end up increasing our overall emissions rather than reducing them. On those countries starting to get a nasty hangover from the wind and renewables party, European Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger has said recently Germany must rein in the runaway costs of subsidising electricity from renewable sources or risk overburdening consumers. The subsidies have encouraged a rapid rise in renewable installations in Europe’s biggest economy, which already has the second highest power prices in the EU. Is this really what we want in the UK? An uncontrolled rush to covering the country (urban and rural areas) in wind turbines for no benefit. Fuel bills much higher than they need to be because of subsidy. Please email, facebook, twitter and talk to all your family, contacts and friends about windfarms. Just because they don’t have a wind turbine near their home does not mean they are not directly affected by wind turbines in other ways. Most notably high electricity bills. We’ve all bought the line over many years from vested interests that wind power is clean, cheap and good. Only when the general public realises what a scam wind power is and how much it is already costs and how much more it will cost us all in the future can this lunacy be stopped. Being against wind turbines is not nimby. Its common good sense whether you live in the town or country.. What should be stopped is the windification of the British Isles full stop. Please write to your MP asking awkward questions about the wind turbine scam and why it is being allowed. http://findyourmp.pa rliament.uk/ for your MP’s details http://www.nowind.or g.uk/ for a national anti wind farm site http://www.epaw.org/ for a European anti wind farm site. familystillthere
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4:08pm Wed 3 Oct 12

familystillthere says...

Good luck with any campaigns against the wind turbine. Hope you get it shut down.

You might find the following report about noise, health and sleep disorders caused by wind turbines of help.

http://www.nandnsoci
ety.org.uk/Downloads
/N&NS%20Wind%20Turbi
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Good luck with any campaigns against the wind turbine. Hope you get it shut down. You might find the following report about noise, health and sleep disorders caused by wind turbines of help. http://www.nandnsoci ety.org.uk/Downloads /N&NS%20Wind%20Turbi ne%20Noise%20Sleep%2 0and%20Health%20Repo rt%20Jul%2012.pdf familystillthere
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5:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12

people of today says...

Gemmy I assume you live amongst the rich and famous by your comment , Outandabout - instead of going on google maps , why do you not visit snipe close and see for yourself that infact there are ONE row of houses that infact are in our view , that's Canada rd , you then have the Royal Mail behind them , then manor rd and on the otherside this thing , We should off been consulted about it going up , we have all been consulted about the huge new development that is in place for Sladegreen , which is great for the area , the local junior school being taken other by a very well sort after academy , new housing and no not social i might add and loads of new things that the community will Benifit from , if us residents have to put up with this then we should be allowed to build up at the back of our houses ,
Gemmy I assume you live amongst the rich and famous by your comment , Outandabout - instead of going on google maps , why do you not visit snipe close and see for yourself that infact there are ONE row of houses that infact are in our view , that's Canada rd , you then have the Royal Mail behind them , then manor rd and on the otherside this thing , We should off been consulted about it going up , we have all been consulted about the huge new development that is in place for Sladegreen , which is great for the area , the local junior school being taken other by a very well sort after academy , new housing and no not social i might add and loads of new things that the community will Benifit from , if us residents have to put up with this then we should be allowed to build up at the back of our houses , people of today
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2:07pm Thu 4 Oct 12

CityWorker1 says...

It's shocking the council allowed this. Residents should petition Bexley Council and Aggregate Industries to make their feelings known.
It's shocking the council allowed this. Residents should petition Bexley Council and Aggregate Industries to make their feelings known. CityWorker1
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3:12pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Doris2012 says...

akeitdown says...
6:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12

gemmy we have plenty of tower blocks in the surronding area you can do a running jump off...


Gemmy's point proven then methinks!
akeitdown says... 6:49pm Tue 2 Oct 12 gemmy we have plenty of tower blocks in the surronding area you can do a running jump off... Gemmy's point proven then methinks! Doris2012
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3:33pm Thu 11 Oct 12

sgreenres says...

Why do these idiots have to comment on here? ie Gemmy/Doris!
Why do these idiots have to comment on here? ie Gemmy/Doris! sgreenres
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