Bromley police arrest nine people in Operation Hawk drugs raids (From News Shopper)

How is a drug raid any different from Attila and the Huns attacking a peaceful city-state to take people prisoner and loot their homes?

SomebodySmart wrote:
How is a drug raid any different from Attila and the Huns attacking a peaceful city-state to take people prisoner and loot their homes?

The difference is law.
One is on the right side and the other is on the wrong side.
Cannot you notice the difference?

SomebodySmart wrote:
How is a drug raid any different from Attila and the Huns attacking a peaceful city-state to take people prisoner and loot their homes?

Yes I totally agree. I wonder if the Emperor Honorious, watching the Visigothic army of Alaric I in 410AD from the Palentine Hill, could truly realize that the Roman Empire was about to fall. Did Honorius ask himself, "This is really just another page of history, isn't it? Will this be the end of our civilization?". Perhaps he did in those arduous and tempestuous times. Perhaps drug dealers in Bromley ask themselves such inciteful questions and consider their place in the witting and unwitting annuals of civilisation, giving full consideration to its historical context of their own place in history. Or perhaps they grunt in their own slag language for a few more minutes of Jeremy Kyle, swig some Stella and moan that their 5% increase in dole money is being looked at - not knowing that 5% has nothing to do with their Stella. I hope the Primus Pilus of Bromley keeps up the good work. If not then “Vestrum est Britanni vos ipsos defendere”.

90 police officers plus all the other costs involved. I just wonder if they had been on the streets doing normal patrols if they would have achieved the same results, or just maybe even better.

"And another man was arrested in Petts Wood on suspicion of drink driving after drawing up outside as police conducted the raid."

So he arrived perhaps to make a purchase and instead of driving off stopped so the police could arrest him. Very smart

BillHeslop wrote:

SomebodySmart wrote: How is a drug raid any different from Attila and the Huns attacking a peaceful city-state to take people prisoner and loot their homes?

Yes I totally agree. I wonder if the Emperor Honorious, watching the Visigothic army of Alaric I in 410AD from the Palentine Hill, could truly realize that the Roman Empire was about to fall. Did Honorius ask himself, "This is really just another page of history, isn't it? Will this be the end of our civilization?". Perhaps he did in those arduous and tempestuous times. Perhaps drug dealers in Bromley ask themselves such inciteful questions and consider their place in the witting and unwitting annuals of civilisation, giving full consideration to its historical context of their own place in history. Or perhaps they grunt in their own slag language for a few more minutes of Jeremy Kyle, swig some Stella and moan that their 5% increase in dole money is being looked at - not knowing that 5% has nothing to do with their Stella. I hope the Primus Pilus of Bromley keeps up the good work. If not then “Vestrum est Britanni vos ipsos defendere”.

Comment of the year !

Love the comment BillH but I have to ask have you been smoking dem funny fags agin boi ? ;)

Absolutely disgusting, in reality what has this achieved? Giving people criminal records for a victim-less crime meaning they cant get a job and are more likely to commit crimes (increasing the amount of crimes that actually affect people), wasting police money (which I thought they were short on anyway).

You cant win the war on drugs, for every dealer you take down there are 10 to take there place.

When will this idiotic behavior stop?

Shadoww wrote:
Absolutely disgusting, in reality what has this achieved? Giving people criminal records for a victim-less crime meaning they cant get a job and are more likely to commit crimes (increasing the amount of crimes that actually affect people), wasting police money (which I thought they were short on anyway). You cant win the war on drugs, for every dealer you take down there are 10 to take there place. When will this idiotic behavior stop?

one man was arrested for suspicion of possession of a stun gun, ammunition (shot gun cartridges) and cannabis.
Result.

Getting shot is a victim-less crime is it ?


Cops arrested one man in Beckenham on suspicion of possession of Class A drugs, cannabis and handling stolen goods.
Result.

Class A and stolen goods is a victim-less crime is it ?

So when you get mugged, burgled stun gunned and shot by a drug user. You will not report it to the Police because you believe it's that persons right to take drugs and you are not a victim.

the wall wrote:

Shadoww wrote:
Absolutely disgusting, in reality what has this achieved? Giving people criminal records for a victim-less crime meaning they cant get a job and are more likely to commit crimes (increasing the amount of crimes that actually affect people), wasting police money (which I thought they were short on anyway). You cant win the war on drugs, for every dealer you take down there are 10 to take there place. When will this idiotic behavior stop?

one man was arrested for suspicion of possession of a stun gun, ammunition (shot gun cartridges) and cannabis.
Result.

Getting shot is a victim-less crime is it ?


Cops arrested one man in Beckenham on suspicion of possession of Class A drugs, cannabis and handling stolen goods.
Result.

Class A and stolen goods is a victim-less crime is it ?

So when you get mugged, burgled stun gunned and shot by a drug user. You will not report it to the Police because you believe it's that persons right to take drugs and you are not a victim.

I will agree that the stun gun, stolen goods etc. are better off the streets, but i think you missed the point. The purpose of these raids were drug raids which also happened to find weapons etc.

If i was shot by a drug user I would call the police and report that I was shot... And in alot of cases it may be, for example, a heroin addict funding his addiction, there would be a massive reduction in drug fueled crime if all drugs were legal as addicts could get help without feeling demonized and worrying about the threat of arrest.

Shadoww wrote:

the wall wrote:

Shadoww wrote:
Absolutely disgusting, in reality what has this achieved? Giving people criminal records for a victim-less crime meaning they cant get a job and are more likely to commit crimes (increasing the amount of crimes that actually affect people), wasting police money (which I thought they were short on anyway). You cant win the war on drugs, for every dealer you take down there are 10 to take there place. When will this idiotic behavior stop?

one man was arrested for suspicion of possession of a stun gun, ammunition (shot gun cartridges) and cannabis.
Result.

Getting shot is a victim-less crime is it ?


Cops arrested one man in Beckenham on suspicion of possession of Class A drugs, cannabis and handling stolen goods.
Result.

Class A and stolen goods is a victim-less crime is it ?

So when you get mugged, burgled stun gunned and shot by a drug user. You will not report it to the Police because you believe it's that persons right to take drugs and you are not a victim.

I will agree that the stun gun, stolen goods etc. are better off the streets, but i think you missed the point. The purpose of these raids were drug raids which also happened to find weapons etc.

If i was shot by a drug user I would call the police and report that I was shot... And in alot of cases it may be, for example, a heroin addict funding his addiction, there would be a massive reduction in drug fueled crime if all drugs were legal as addicts could get help without feeling demonized and worrying about the threat of arrest.

But,ALL USERS and ADDICTS know it is against the law to start with but choose to partake.
It is against the law fullstop,everyone knows it is.
If you want to change a law there are steps to do so,dont break it and the moan about it being 'unfair'.

A victimless crime?

So these people deal drugs (doesn't matter what). Their "customers" more often than not resort to robbery, burglary etc in order to feed their addiction

Try explaining to someone who has been mugged

well done to the police lets hope some of them see same bars and not just bk on the streets ....

Shadoww wrote:
Absolutely disgusting, in reality what has this achieved? Giving people criminal records for a victim-less crime meaning they cant get a job and are more likely to commit crimes (increasing the amount of crimes that actually affect people), wasting police money (which I thought they were short on anyway). You cant win the war on drugs, for every dealer you take down there are 10 to take there place. When will this idiotic behavior stop?

If these 9 people arrested each got say five years inside, and this is repeated every week across Bromley I don't think you will see another 90 people (ten for each one) quite so willing to take their place.

What are the next 90 doing right now anyway? is there some sort of waiting list?

What a waste of police time and money! 90 cops and only 2 people arrested on suspicion of intent to supply?

So if we break it down. 20 cops arrested 2 dealers. 10 cops arrested the one drink driver and the other 60 took care of the 6 stoners? What a joke!

The guy with the stolen goods probably bought them with his weed. Same as the guy with the stun gun, fair point cause London drug dealers are dodge and you gotta protect yourself. Neither of these situations would exist if drugs were decriminilized...

Atleast in Bexley they managed to actually stop some real dealers although I'm not sure what good that will do. 377,000 unemployed reading that and saying "my oh my, £24,000 in cash and 2.6mil in product. I best got signed off JSA"

Lets end the drug war and stop funding criminals!