Report reveals entrenched racism in Thamesmead and Bexley (From News Shopper)

There are other minorities than "blacks".

The most racist comments that I have heard regarding Afro Caribbean "blacks" have come from Africans.

And it is not exactly fashionable to be
Hispanic, Latino, Slav, or Mediterreanean. Or Gypsy.

As for the BNP, they do not like white people from outside their "manor".

I don't have a problem with anyone's race, religion or colour. I do have a problem with their behaviour, however. I have found the majority of African and Asian people are sociable and well-mannered, as are the majority of Eastern European people. There are the minorities of every race, including English, who are downright rude and arrogant, and think they can inflict violence on whoever they want to. Those are the people we don't need in our communities.

Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree I am a naziwhowantstokillsi
xmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Slow hand clap for theresa Pearce - what stupid comments have you got hidden away unused yet, you seem to have surpassed yourself :)
Go on Love, keep banging on about the BNP in Welling, an area you don't even represent do you? What do you actually know, didn't realise that Thamesmead and Erith were such happy areas.?
In Welling we haven't seen the Nazi's in some time, we heard they were moving back to Erith and Slade green to work there, as we don't want them here anymore. were all trying to move on, but people like you keep dragging the issue back up again and again.

FredHH

There are too many ignorant and frankly idiotic points in your post for me to even begin to address them, and I doubt you'd listen to reason anyway; however I'd like to give you a quick history lesson:

Austrailia and America didn't used to be 'white' countries (as you so elequently put it), they were invaded and colonised.

South Africa, India, Hong Kong, The Falklands, Gambia, Gold Coast, Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan, Egypt, Burma, Tonga, and Papua New Guinea have all been invaded by 'white' Britian over the years and so perhaps the reason these places aren't (according to you) being pushed to 'assimilate' is because they already are pretty **** multi-cultural?

I'd like to see your (official) sources for exactly who has prescribed that the solution to 'the race problem' is for 'white' countries to allow 'the third world' to flood in? The solution to racism is for racists to stop being racist - why not start with yourself?

Personally I have a problem with criminals, anti-social behaviour, leeching off the state and extremism no matter who is behind it - black, white, brown or green.

dizzy13 wrote:
Slow hand clap for theresa Pearce - what stupid comments have you got hidden away unused yet, you seem to have surpassed yourself :) Go on Love, keep banging on about the BNP in Welling, an area you don't even represent do you? What do you actually know, didn't realise that Thamesmead and Erith were such happy areas.? In Welling we haven't seen the Nazi's in some time, we heard they were moving back to Erith and Slade green to work there, as we don't want them here anymore. were all trying to move on, but people like you keep dragging the issue back up again and again.

...anyone see the racist comments from ms. abbott ?

bible scoffer wrote:

dizzy13 wrote: Slow hand clap for theresa Pearce - what stupid comments have you got hidden away unused yet, you seem to have surpassed yourself :) Go on Love, keep banging on about the BNP in Welling, an area you don't even represent do you? What do you actually know, didn't realise that Thamesmead and Erith were such happy areas.? In Welling we haven't seen the Nazi's in some time, we heard they were moving back to Erith and Slade green to work there, as we don't want them here anymore. were all trying to move on, but people like you keep dragging the issue back up again and again.

...anyone see the racist comments from ms. abbott ?

Got to love MPs who like to drag up issues to keep them going

The Falklands islands were uninhabited when they were discovered by Europeans.

Thanks wall! I assume that means you agree with my other points?!

The biggest problem is if you even dare speak out about certain issues,crimes or problems being caused by a certain race you are instantly labelled a racist.

The facts are that certain crimes etc are committed by certain groups or races.I bet no one complains the majority of paedophiles are white males or burglaries are by white males but mention street robbery, or mugging is perhaps trending towards being carried out by blacks and then you are labelled a racist.

(source a family member is a partner in a solicitors)

All races,religions or sex etc have those who cause problems in society so why cant we look at the facts.

For example the majority of wealthy areas in britain are predominantly white,if you disagree with that name me one that isnt.

At the end of the day we are all individuals who can think for ourselves (well most of us not in gangs) so why cant we all try to get on and recognise patterns and trends in crime etc instead of covering them up in the media ?

Am i racist ? No

Do i have prejudices ? Yes, but ive yet to meet anyone who doesnt.

Perhaps Theresa Pearce would be better investigating Labour's term of office which allowed in over 3million immigrants which has put an enormous strain on all services and certainly neverhelped already strained race relations..
Blaming the British National Party is an easy option to divert attention away from the real heart of the problem which is ? failing politicians in the three political party system we have in this country who have flooded the country with mass immigration and cheap labour and engaging in "illegal" wars in muslim countries..
There wouldnt be a need for the British National Party/Ukip if these politicians managed this country properly and stopped their political correct mandate of accusing everyone of being a "racist" who disagrees with their political policies which have been a disaster for this country!
We have seen the contempt for the electorate by the Shadow Minister for Public Health Dianne Abbott only this week.. a person who would not send her son to a local school in Hackney but chose a private school ( overwhelming white ) ..hypocrisy at its worst.. and as for "public health" .. make your own mind up if you think this lady is suitable!

BarryHarry wrote:
Perhaps Theresa Pearce would be better investigating Labour's term of office which allowed in over 3million immigrants which has put an enormous strain on all services and certainly neverhelped already strained race relations.. Blaming the British National Party is an easy option to divert attention away from the real heart of the problem which is ? failing politicians in the three political party system we have in this country who have flooded the country with mass immigration and cheap labour and engaging in "illegal" wars in muslim countries.. There wouldnt be a need for the British National Party/Ukip if these politicians managed this country properly and stopped their political correct mandate of accusing everyone of being a "racist" who disagrees with their political policies which have been a disaster for this country! We have seen the contempt for the electorate by the Shadow Minister for Public Health Dianne Abbott only this week.. a person who would not send her son to a local school in Hackney but chose a private school ( overwhelming white ) ..hypocrisy at its worst.. and as for "public health" .. make your own mind up if you think this lady is suitable!

she needs to go on a diet lol

miss sweethips wrote:

BarryHarry wrote: Perhaps Theresa Pearce would be better investigating Labour's term of office which allowed in over 3million immigrants which has put an enormous strain on all services and certainly neverhelped already strained race relations.. Blaming the British National Party is an easy option to divert attention away from the real heart of the problem which is ? failing politicians in the three political party system we have in this country who have flooded the country with mass immigration and cheap labour and engaging in "illegal" wars in muslim countries.. There wouldnt be a need for the British National Party/Ukip if these politicians managed this country properly and stopped their political correct mandate of accusing everyone of being a "racist" who disagrees with their political policies which have been a disaster for this country! We have seen the contempt for the electorate by the Shadow Minister for Public Health Dianne Abbott only this week.. a person who would not send her son to a local school in Hackney but chose a private school ( overwhelming white ) ..hypocrisy at its worst.. and as for "public health" .. make your own mind up if you think this lady is suitable!

she needs to go on a diet lol

...unlike you miss s.h. eh ? wink, wink.

Perhaps something should be done abut the manipulation of figures at Lunar House in Wellesley Road, Croydon.
Most will know what they do here, it is the first point of call for anyone claiming asylum.
My Mother-in-Law works there and tells how the figures are massaged to read a certain way. For example a family of 10 claims asylum they will all go down as 1 unit for the records, yet if that same family has their asylum refused and are subsequently deported then every member of that family are deported separately and goes down on record separately. In short if they are allowed to stay then it goes down on record as 1 case yet if they are deported it will appear as 10 separate deportations.
Something to think about when you read the levels of people being deported and granted asylum.

I feel racism is being mentioned at every opportunity, a few months back a black woman went to the papers complaining about the 99p store selling A "Sinister black child's wig" the woman claimed this was racist and offensive, demanded the shop remove all the wigs as they may cause offence to her 3 year old daughter 'Mercedes'

http://www.thisiscro
ydontoday.co.uk/Raci
sm-row-99p-Store-Hal
lowe-en-wig/story-13
622371-detail/story.
html

Silly stories like that do nothing but reinforce certain peoples beliefs
I do, however, believe there is a problem with racism (and the so called reverse racism!)

As someone else mentioned, we all know the majority of paedophiles are middle aged white males. Just as most serial killers are white males.
It also stands that most street robberies are commissioned by young black males and most arrests for possession of cannabis are also young black males but it must be mentioned that most arrests for possession of class A drugs (Cocaine, Heroin and Crack Cocaine) are white males it is worth noting, however, that most arrests for dealing class A drugs are young black males.

I don't care what colour you are, whether it be White Black, yellow, Orange (Have you ever watched TOWIE: The Only Way Is Essex) or Purple with Green Polka dots!
If you are an Idiot then you are an Idiot, it really should be as simple as that!

I have to say though, some of the most racist comments I have heard have come from West Africans towards Nigerians, I don't really know why but they seem to hate each other with a passion!!

There are good and bad in all races/nationalities. I fear this will not stop until we see people as people and not simply label them based on skin colour.

Also the insistence on using a certain word that was used by white slave traders as a term of abuse. This 'N' word is now used almost as a term of endearment in some quarters and is often used as a greeting "Wassup My N****r" and similar. I cant understand that. I wouldn't see my brother and say "How are you doing my white honky"
Can you see my point there?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


I did quote a previous post, in which someone spoke of immigration. That's why my post may appear to be non-relevant.

TheEverardedbutt wrote:
Perhaps something should be done abut the manipulation of figures at Lunar House in Wellesley Road, Croydon.
Most will know what they do here, it is the first point of call for anyone claiming asylum.
My Mother-in-Law works there and tells how the figures are massaged to read a certain way. For example a family of 10 claims asylum they will all go down as 1 unit for the records, yet if that same family has their asylum refused and are subsequently deported then every member of that family are deported separately and goes down on record separately. In short if they are allowed to stay then it goes down on record as 1 case yet if they are deported it will appear as 10 separate deportations.
Something to think about when you read the levels of people being deported and granted asylum.

I feel racism is being mentioned at every opportunity, a few months back a black woman went to the papers complaining about the 99p store selling A "Sinister black child's wig" the woman claimed this was racist and offensive, demanded the shop remove all the wigs as they may cause offence to her 3 year old daughter 'Mercedes'

http://www.thisiscro

ydontoday.co.uk/Raci

sm-row-99p-Store-Hal

lowe-en-wig/story-13

622371-detail/story.

html

Silly stories like that do nothing but reinforce certain peoples beliefs
I do, however, believe there is a problem with racism (and the so called reverse racism!)

As someone else mentioned, we all know the majority of paedophiles are middle aged white males. Just as most serial killers are white males.
It also stands that most street robberies are commissioned by young black males and most arrests for possession of cannabis are also young black males but it must be mentioned that most arrests for possession of class A drugs (Cocaine, Heroin and Crack Cocaine) are white males it is worth noting, however, that most arrests for dealing class A drugs are young black males.

I don't care what colour you are, whether it be White Black, yellow, Orange (Have you ever watched TOWIE: The Only Way Is Essex) or Purple with Green Polka dots!
If you are an Idiot then you are an Idiot, it really should be as simple as that!

I have to say though, some of the most racist comments I have heard have come from West Africans towards Nigerians, I don't really know why but they seem to hate each other with a passion!!

There are good and bad in all races/nationalities. I fear this will not stop until we see people as people and not simply label them based on skin colour.

Also the insistence on using a certain word that was used by white slave traders as a term of abuse. This 'N' word is now used almost as a term of endearment in some quarters and is often used as a greeting "Wassup My N****r" and similar. I cant understand that. I wouldn't see my brother and say "How are you doing my white honky"
Can you see my point there?

And i thought i was the only one saw it this way,with others like yourself seeing the real picture perhaps change happen.

A very intelligent post.I too see the african against african thing most weeks in my line of work.

There are a lot of angry people out there carrying a lot of attitude and anger about with them daily,they really must live miserable lives to be so angry all the time.

MsChevious wrote:
Thanks wall! I assume that means you agree with my other points?!

Sorry, yes I do agree. That is a well written post. I love Britian and all the history it has but Britian have done some shocking things.

toomush2drink wrote:

TheEverardedbutt wrote:
Perhaps something should be done abut the manipulation of figures at Lunar House in Wellesley Road, Croydon.
Most will know what they do here, it is the first point of call for anyone claiming asylum.
My Mother-in-Law works there and tells how the figures are massaged to read a certain way. For example a family of 10 claims asylum they will all go down as 1 unit for the records, yet if that same family has their asylum refused and are subsequently deported then every member of that family are deported separately and goes down on record separately. In short if they are allowed to stay then it goes down on record as 1 case yet if they are deported it will appear as 10 separate deportations.
Something to think about when you read the levels of people being deported and granted asylum.

I feel racism is being mentioned at every opportunity, a few months back a black woman went to the papers complaining about the 99p store selling A "Sinister black child's wig" the woman claimed this was racist and offensive, demanded the shop remove all the wigs as they may cause offence to her 3 year old daughter 'Mercedes'

http://www.thisiscro


ydontoday.co.uk/Raci


sm-row-99p-Store-Hal


lowe-en-wig/story-13


622371-detail/story.


html

Silly stories like that do nothing but reinforce certain peoples beliefs
I do, however, believe there is a problem with racism (and the so called reverse racism!)

As someone else mentioned, we all know the majority of paedophiles are middle aged white males. Just as most serial killers are white males.
It also stands that most street robberies are commissioned by young black males and most arrests for possession of cannabis are also young black males but it must be mentioned that most arrests for possession of class A drugs (Cocaine, Heroin and Crack Cocaine) are white males it is worth noting, however, that most arrests for dealing class A drugs are young black males.

I don't care what colour you are, whether it be White Black, yellow, Orange (Have you ever watched TOWIE: The Only Way Is Essex) or Purple with Green Polka dots!
If you are an Idiot then you are an Idiot, it really should be as simple as that!

I have to say though, some of the most racist comments I have heard have come from West Africans towards Nigerians, I don't really know why but they seem to hate each other with a passion!!

There are good and bad in all races/nationalities. I fear this will not stop until we see people as people and not simply label them based on skin colour.

Also the insistence on using a certain word that was used by white slave traders as a term of abuse. This 'N' word is now used almost as a term of endearment in some quarters and is often used as a greeting "Wassup My N****r" and similar. I cant understand that. I wouldn't see my brother and say "How are you doing my white honky"
Can you see my point there?

And i thought i was the only one saw it this way,with others like yourself seeing the real picture perhaps change happen.

A very intelligent post.I too see the african against african thing most weeks in my line of work.

There are a lot of angry people out there carrying a lot of attitude and anger about with them daily,they really must live miserable lives to be so angry all the time.

The African against African thing isn't racism, it's tribalism, which is worse than racism knows how to be. For example. take Chaka, who saw all non-Zulu tribes as his 'dogs', to slaughter and enslave as he pleased. This persecution still continues today in many African countries because it is part of their culture. This tribal bias should not be brought to this country, nor should the violent attitude. As regards violence, I have African neighbours who are very nice people. A while back they threw a party to celebrate the naming of their son. Their guests parked their cars everywhere, blocking access and egress of neighbours. When one neighbour knocked and asked politely if they would move some cars so he could get his van out for work, he was chased up the road by the 'guests', who were armed with anything they could get their hands on. They even threw a punch at his wife! This kind of behaviour is unacceptable, but if one complains, one is labelled 'racist'.

It would seem that culture is to blame for a lot of problems. I have found that the majority of African people are friendly and polite, but there are some from the Northern states especially who are arrogant and aggressive, towards women in particular. If these people are going to live in this country, that attitude must change. 'When in Rome.....'. Regardless of their country of origin, immigrants should be prepared to integrate and abide by our laws, or they should be deported.

The trouble is many are fleeing from places where violence is a way of life or civil war is the norm.
As you say plenty of nice africans and in my experience africans who have been here a few years are ok its the newer migrants that seem to get angry for no reason and use violence at the drop of a hat.The flip side is if you have grown up in a war zone and know no different then what do we expect.
Education is key just as the article reports, at least its moving in the right direction.

toomush2drink:

The difference there is that you never here people saying that an area has 'gone to the dogs' or they feel unsafe because there are too many middle-aged white men around! Even though there are certain crime, as you rightly point out, which tend to be committed more often by white people, that is not extrapolated into a generalisation about *all* white people, as so often is the case with minorities.

Why can't people see that the important thing is to bring people - whoever they are - to justice for any crime, and that stereotypes about races & skin colours are damaging to everyone?!

The irony of this issue is that if more uneducated whites, ie. the people who most commonly commit racist crimes, were to take up jobs instead of relying on benefits we would not need immigrants to do these jobs and the white people would feel better about themselves and the society. As a result, racism would not be as much of a problem...

Did anyone think of asking the good people of Thamesmead and Bexley if they wanted to live with Africans and eastern Europeans? I dont think they did, but now when we find out that the residents of those areas are not keen on sharing their towns with foreigners they are labelled racists. And we all know what racists are dont we? Ill educated pot marked, pot bellied ignoramuses that live on the dole, whilst wearing union jack shorts.

The reality is that if you enforce immigration on people to the extent that it irreparably changes a community you are asking for trouble. Living in a democratic state should mean that citizens are asked prior to this sort of fundamental change. Politicians however are much more adept at blaming those who were never consulted in the first place for their objections.

This now disparate state no longer knows who it is, we lack identity and common purpose. In America the indigenous population have reservations in which they can live amongst their own community. Perhaps we should do the same with Erith, Thamesmead and Bexley this would remove all racism at a stroke.

MsChevious wrote:
toomush2drink:

The difference there is that you never here people saying that an area has 'gone to the dogs' or they feel unsafe because there are too many middle-aged white men around! Even though there are certain crime, as you rightly point out, which tend to be committed more often by white people, that is not extrapolated into a generalisation about *all* white people, as so often is the case with minorities.

Why can't people see that the important thing is to bring people - whoever they are - to justice for any crime, and that stereotypes about races & skin colours are damaging to everyone?!

Name me one area of britain that is a sought after,wealthy,presti
gious or well to do area to live that that isnt predominantly white ? Just look at property prices and then look at the people who live in those areas.

Funny how those wanting to get away from the crime and move to a nice area seek out the white areas to relocate to.

I do agree about the generalisations though but you only have the media to blame for that.If 5 white guys attack a black person its a race crime but the other way round its just an assault, got to love the media eh ?

Loco_national wrote:
Did anyone think of asking the good people of Thamesmead and Bexley if they wanted to live with Africans and eastern Europeans? I dont think they did, but now when we find out that the residents of those areas are not keen on sharing their towns with foreigners they are labelled racists. And we all know what racists are dont we? Ill educated pot marked, pot bellied ignoramuses that live on the dole, whilst wearing union jack shorts. The reality is that if you enforce immigration on people to the extent that it irreparably changes a community you are asking for trouble. Living in a democratic state should mean that citizens are asked prior to this sort of fundamental change. Politicians however are much more adept at blaming those who were never consulted in the first place for their objections. This now disparate state no longer knows who it is, we lack identity and common purpose. In America the indigenous population have reservations in which they can live amongst their own community. Perhaps we should do the same with Erith, Thamesmead and Bexley this would remove all racism at a stroke.

The politicians probably figured out that they would gain additional voters by letting more foreigners in while at the same time dishing out more benefits to the indigenous population so that they would stay sufficiently happy to vote for them. The real victims of this are our children who have to live with the consequences and carry the financial burden that this has created. And all of this just for the sake of a couple of million votes.

j.j. wrote:

Loco_national wrote:
Did anyone think of asking the good people of Thamesmead and Bexley if they wanted to live with Africans and eastern Europeans? I dont think they did, but now when we find out that the residents of those areas are not keen on sharing their towns with foreigners they are labelled racists. And we all know what racists are dont we? Ill educated pot marked, pot bellied ignoramuses that live on the dole, whilst wearing union jack shorts. The reality is that if you enforce immigration on people to the extent that it irreparably changes a community you are asking for trouble. Living in a democratic state should mean that citizens are asked prior to this sort of fundamental change. Politicians however are much more adept at blaming those who were never consulted in the first place for their objections. This now disparate state no longer knows who it is, we lack identity and common purpose. In America the indigenous population have reservations in which they can live amongst their own community. Perhaps we should do the same with Erith, Thamesmead and Bexley this would remove all racism at a stroke.

The politicians probably figured out that they would gain additional voters by letting more foreigners in while at the same time dishing out more benefits to the indigenous population so that they would stay sufficiently happy to vote for them. The real victims of this are our children who have to live with the consequences and carry the financial burden that this has created. And all of this just for the sake of a couple of million votes.

The government's official advisers on migration say there is a link between immigration from outside the European Union and job losses among UK workers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-16484918

Going to add fuel to the fire!!

TheEverardedbutt wrote:

j.j. wrote:

Loco_national wrote: Did anyone think of asking the good people of Thamesmead and Bexley if they wanted to live with Africans and eastern Europeans? I dont think they did, but now when we find out that the residents of those areas are not keen on sharing their towns with foreigners they are labelled racists. And we all know what racists are dont we? Ill educated pot marked, pot bellied ignoramuses that live on the dole, whilst wearing union jack shorts. The reality is that if you enforce immigration on people to the extent that it irreparably changes a community you are asking for trouble. Living in a democratic state should mean that citizens are asked prior to this sort of fundamental change. Politicians however are much more adept at blaming those who were never consulted in the first place for their objections. This now disparate state no longer knows who it is, we lack identity and common purpose. In America the indigenous population have reservations in which they can live amongst their own community. Perhaps we should do the same with Erith, Thamesmead and Bexley this would remove all racism at a stroke.

The politicians probably figured out that they would gain additional voters by letting more foreigners in while at the same time dishing out more benefits to the indigenous population so that they would stay sufficiently happy to vote for them. The real victims of this are our children who have to live with the consequences and carry the financial burden that this has created. And all of this just for the sake of a couple of million votes.

The government's official advisers on migration say there is a link between immigration from outside the European Union and job losses among UK workers. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-16484918 Going to add fuel to the fire!!

And there is also a link between immigration from within the EU and job losses among UK workers, but it's politically incorrect to say this. Tony Blair's single biggest mistake was to open up our borders to new EU countries before any other major countries did that - had he not done that we would have hundrends of thousands more jobs for locals.