Queen Elizabeth Hospital and Lewisham shopping centre toilets recommended for saucy meets

Queen Elizabeth Hospital appears on the list

Toilets at Lewisham Shopping Centre are also rated

First published in News News Shopper: Photograph of the Author by , deputy news editor

A HOSPITAL toilet, supermarket and shopping centre are among the area’s top places to meet for gay sex, according to a list published online.

The Cruising Gays website has a top to bottom rundown of recommended places in Lewisham and Greenwich for cruising and cottaging - slang for romping in public loos.

Each place is given an Amazon-style star rating out of five and includes tips on how to make the most of your visit, how to get there and even whether each place has disabled access.

Surprisingly, a toilet in Queen Elizabeth Hospital gets a mention. The site advises: “Walk past the prayer room and the toilets are on the left.”

One user says: “I was looking to p*ss, the guy in the next cubicle was looking for more. Without meaning to sound cheesy, I was willing to oblige.“

Elsewhere in the borough, toilets in Woolwich’s Vincent Road and Herbert Road , Plumstead Common and Thamesmead town centre all get a favourable review.

King William Walk’s toilets are particularly popular attracting “a lot of tourists”.

Meanwhile the toilets on Charlton Park Road attract “all sorts, from gorgeous to grim”.

In Lewisham, the shopping centre’s East Walk outdoor urinals get a three-star rating for its mixed crowd of “old, young, black and white” men.

One user warns: “Genuine guys go for a p*ss, but a lot of gays and discrete enclosed urinals so you can zip up if anyone dodgy comes.”

Travellers to Hilly Fields Park are advised to head to the back of the bowls club house and warned to watch out for dog walkers.

News Shopper: Toilets by Lewisham Shopping Centre are also rated

And potential cottagers are advised that the number 47 bus stops right outside Giffin Street toilets behind Deptford’s Wavelengths leisure centre, where the middle cubicle has a spyhole, described as “small, but enough to see action in the next cubicle.”

It is not wheelchair accessible and users are warned: “On some days there's a very nosy toilet attendant, old white man in his sixties keeps his office door open and talks to passers by for hours.

“Also you get the odd crack addict coming in to have a sniff.”

Beckenham Place Park is the borough’s only hotspot to get a five-star rating.

A spokesman for South London Healthcare Trust, which runs Queen Elizabeth Hospital, said: "Our Estates Department have investigated this and can confirm that there is a gap of about 1cm near the lock on one of the cubicle doors.

"It has been reported to the on-site team and repairs to close the gap will be put into immediate effect.

"We will also be contacting the website to ask them to remove the item."

OUT AND ABOUT IN LEWISHAM

Lewisham Shopping Centre

Crystal Palace Park Parade

Ladywell Fields

Giffin Street toilets

Beckenham Place Park

Hilly Fields

....AND GREENWICH

Oxleas Woods

King William Walk toilets, Greenwich

Court Road toilets, Eltham

Arches Leisure Centre

Herbert Road toilets

Blackheath

North Greenwich tube toilets

Woolwich Sainsbury's

Plumstead Common toilets

Thamesmead town centre toilets

Maryon Wilson Park

Greenwich recreation ground

Charlton Park Road

A BRIEF HISTORY OF COTTAGING

The term comes from the appearance of old-fashioned toilet blocks which look like small cottages.

Traditionally they have been found at busy places like railway stations and university campuses.

Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 engaging in sexual activity in a public lavatory is illegal.

It is punishable by a prison sentence of up to 6 months or a fine.

Famous people caught cottaging include actor John Gielgud and pop singer George Michael.

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12:42pm Mon 9 Aug 10

Erastus says...

Absolutely disgusting!
Absolutely disgusting! Erastus
  • Score: -1

1:35pm Mon 9 Aug 10

eleanargh says...

Oh my goodness News Shopper, I love you.
Thank you for not being judge-y.
Oh my goodness News Shopper, I love you. Thank you for not being judge-y. eleanargh
  • Score: 0

1:35pm Mon 9 Aug 10

It's Me again ! says...

Erastus wrote:
Absolutely disgusting!
Totally agree and NS have just given this more publicity ! Well done
[quote][p][bold]Erastus[/bold] wrote: Absolutely disgusting![/p][/quote]Totally agree and NS have just given this more publicity ! Well done It's Me again !
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Mon 9 Aug 10

nicely says...

sick
sick nicely
  • Score: -1

2:13pm Mon 9 Aug 10

Let's Agree To Differ says...

Wouldn't this be better in the leisure or local info section? :-)

Hardly worthy of being called news.


wide-burn...well it would wouldn't it ;-)
Wouldn't this be better in the leisure or local info section? :-) Hardly worthy of being called news. wide-burn...well it would wouldn't it ;-) Let's Agree To Differ
  • Score: 1

2:25pm Mon 9 Aug 10

Biscuit says...

Let's Agree To Differ wrote:
Wouldn't this be better in the leisure or local info section? :-) Hardly worthy of being called news. wide-burn...well it would wouldn't it ;-)
Lets, please don't make me laugh when I'm at work. My boss now probably wonders why I'm chuckling at the invoicing...


hang-mass. Oh here I go again. I'm sure these are hand picked for the occasion sometimes!
[quote][p][bold]Let's Agree To Differ[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't this be better in the leisure or local info section? :-) Hardly worthy of being called news. wide-burn...well it would wouldn't it ;-)[/p][/quote]Lets, please don't make me laugh when I'm at work. My boss now probably wonders why I'm chuckling at the invoicing... hang-mass. Oh here I go again. I'm sure these are hand picked for the occasion sometimes! Biscuit
  • Score: 1

2:38pm Mon 9 Aug 10

RedRevolver says...

Seriously, people need to be far more open minded.
Seriously, people need to be far more open minded. RedRevolver
  • Score: 0

2:47pm Mon 9 Aug 10

What the!!! says...

In an earlier report on this website the was a quote form the Mayor of Lewisham that almost condonded thses goings on......they have now replaced it with a qoute from the QE. Makes my skin crawl.
In an earlier report on this website the was a quote form the Mayor of Lewisham that almost condonded thses goings on......they have now replaced it with a qoute from the QE. Makes my skin crawl. What the!!!
  • Score: 0

2:59pm Mon 9 Aug 10

Eagles_Man says...

So the NS has gone from being all moralising about removing escort ads from the classified section ... and now gives publicity to a gay cottaging website.

Double standards?
So the NS has gone from being all moralising about removing escort ads from the classified section ... and now gives publicity to a gay cottaging website. Double standards? Eagles_Man
  • Score: -1

4:17pm Mon 9 Aug 10

It's Me again ! says...

Eagles_Man wrote:
So the NS has gone from being all moralising about removing escort ads from the classified section ... and now gives publicity to a gay cottaging website. Double standards?
Ummm is NS going to respond ?
*sits back and eats popcorn*
[quote][p][bold]Eagles_Man[/bold] wrote: So the NS has gone from being all moralising about removing escort ads from the classified section ... and now gives publicity to a gay cottaging website. Double standards?[/p][/quote]Ummm is NS going to respond ? *sits back and eats popcorn* It's Me again !
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Mon 9 Aug 10

eleanargh says...

Escort ads and gay cottaging are completely different... one is entirely consensual activity between two people, the other is buying people for sex...
Escort ads and gay cottaging are completely different... one is entirely consensual activity between two people, the other is buying people for sex... eleanargh
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Mon 9 Aug 10

Eagles_Man says...

eleanargh wrote:
Escort ads and gay cottaging are completely different... one is entirely consensual activity between two people, the other is buying people for sex...
Both activities are consensual (excluding the few instances of people trafficking). That money changes hands for escort services (they would say it's technically for "time and companionship" to stay within the law) is irrelevant.

The relevant difference between the two is that cottaging is illegal.

In any case, it's the apparent moral double standards that I'm questioning.
[quote][p][bold]eleanargh[/bold] wrote: Escort ads and gay cottaging are completely different... one is entirely consensual activity between two people, the other is buying people for sex...[/p][/quote]Both activities are consensual (excluding the few instances of people trafficking). That money changes hands for escort services (they would say it's technically for "time and companionship" to stay within the law) is irrelevant. The relevant difference between the two is that cottaging is illegal. In any case, it's the apparent moral double standards that I'm questioning. Eagles_Man
  • Score: 0

8:41am Tue 10 Aug 10

The Original Ranter says...

I'm not particularly interested in the 'moral maze' this seems to have stirred up some people. I'm thoughly disgusted by the public activities of these horrible people. Get a room! Arrange a meet somewhere else. No wonder there aren't enough public lavatories - they're full up of these inadequates. There was report the other week about the activities of gay men and 'doggers' at various locations during the day and night which are preventing normal, decent people and their families from going to. One was an RSPB reserve! It may be consensual between the participants but not by the overwhelming majority. A HOSPITAL LAVATORY? Cue the faux outrage from the permanently aggireved and easily offended community.
I'm not particularly interested in the 'moral maze' this seems to have stirred up some people. I'm thoughly disgusted by the public activities of these horrible people. Get a room! Arrange a meet somewhere else. No wonder there aren't enough public lavatories - they're full up of these inadequates. There was report the other week about the activities of gay men and 'doggers' at various locations during the day and night which are preventing normal, decent people and their families from going to. One was an RSPB reserve! It may be consensual between the participants but not by the overwhelming majority. A HOSPITAL LAVATORY? Cue the faux outrage from the permanently aggireved and easily offended community. The Original Ranter
  • Score: 0

9:41am Tue 10 Aug 10

StayFrosty says...

I don't really see how this harms anyone. Even in a hospital I can't see a problem. A bigger danger is that an article like this might ruin everyone's fun. That would genuinely be a real pity.
I don't really see how this harms anyone. Even in a hospital I can't see a problem. A bigger danger is that an article like this might ruin everyone's fun. That would genuinely be a real pity. StayFrosty
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Tue 10 Aug 10

K1rky says...

Harms Anyone?. Of course I'd like to walk into one of these toilets with my young son to be greeted by these disgusting people
Harms Anyone?. Of course I'd like to walk into one of these toilets with my young son to be greeted by these disgusting people K1rky
  • Score: 0

12:15pm Tue 10 Aug 10

What the!!! says...

StayFrosty are you for real?
StayFrosty are you for real? What the!!!
  • Score: 2

12:29pm Tue 10 Aug 10

StayFrosty says...

They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok.

Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless.
They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok. Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless. StayFrosty
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Tue 10 Aug 10

GODUPERE2 says...

Thats me sorted for the weekend!!!
Thats me sorted for the weekend!!! GODUPERE2
  • Score: 2

3:24pm Tue 10 Aug 10

Erastus says...

Read my latest blog: SEX IN THE GREAT OUTDOORS: It's not always what it's cracked up to be.
You can find it in 'Opinion & Blogs'.
Wham, bam, thank you mam and man.
Erastus
Read my latest blog: SEX IN THE GREAT OUTDOORS: It's not always what it's cracked up to be. You can find it in 'Opinion & Blogs'. Wham, bam, thank you mam and man. Erastus Erastus
  • Score: 0

5:23pm Tue 10 Aug 10

K1rky says...

Frosty, what about the mess they leave behind?, do you really think they will be quiet while perfoming?. Get real, these people don't care where or when. Their sexual habits are disgusting and the stories of their antics told to me via a policeman proves to me just how vile they are.
Frosty, what about the mess they leave behind?, do you really think they will be quiet while perfoming?. Get real, these people don't care where or when. Their sexual habits are disgusting and the stories of their antics told to me via a policeman proves to me just how vile they are. K1rky
  • Score: 0

5:33pm Tue 10 Aug 10

mungia1 says...

StayFrosty wrote:
They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok.

Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless.
Are you sick, or a paedo? The problem is that normal people don't want to see/hear 2 blokes buggering one another, nor do they want their kids to. So don't try to justify such beastly behaviour, save it for the bedroom where it's private. Then, you can do what you like. Is this what a tolerent society has to put up with now??? Perhaps this sort of behaviour is behind some of the homophobic crime we keep reading abaout?
[quote][p][bold]StayFrosty[/bold] wrote: They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok. Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless.[/p][/quote]Are you sick, or a paedo? The problem is that normal people don't want to see/hear 2 blokes buggering one another, nor do they want their kids to. So don't try to justify such beastly behaviour, save it for the bedroom where it's private. Then, you can do what you like. Is this what a tolerent society has to put up with now??? Perhaps this sort of behaviour is behind some of the homophobic crime we keep reading abaout? mungia1
  • Score: -1

6:37pm Tue 10 Aug 10

Erastus says...

Read my latest blog: SEX IN THE GREAT OUTDOORS: It's not always what it's cracked up to be.
You can find it in 'Opinion & Blogs'.
Wham, bam, thank you mam and man.
Erastus
Read my latest blog: SEX IN THE GREAT OUTDOORS: It's not always what it's cracked up to be. You can find it in 'Opinion & Blogs'. Wham, bam, thank you mam and man. Erastus Erastus
  • Score: 0

11:01am Thu 12 Aug 10

activist says...

This article is hilarious and as a gay man I could find this directory very helpful.....

If you look at xtube website there are thousands of explicit amateur videos of hetrosexual couples having sexual intercourse in public toilets, changing rooms of well known department stores etc etc.
This article is hilarious and as a gay man I could find this directory very helpful..... If you look at xtube website there are thousands of explicit amateur videos of hetrosexual couples having sexual intercourse in public toilets, changing rooms of well known department stores etc etc. activist
  • Score: 1

10:14pm Tue 17 Aug 10

ginger joe says...

I cant believe there was no mention of the toilets on Elmers End Green!!
I cant believe there was no mention of the toilets on Elmers End Green!! ginger joe
  • Score: 2

3:01pm Sat 28 Aug 10

ksc says...

If you're caught getting buggered you go to prison, where you spend your six months being buggered, it's a win win situation, but seriously, I'm of the mind set live and let live, only while heterosexual people are living you don't normally see them banging away in the park, in the toilets, in Tescos, up a tree, at the bottom of a tree, no they at least have the self control and dignity to find a place to do the dirty deed where no one else can see or hear them, it's just showing respect for other people who don't share in your enthusiasm to do it there and then. so I believe that stories like the one above don't help gay people in any way, it just breeds hatred in people who would previously not thought too much about it.
If you're caught getting buggered you go to prison, where you spend your six months being buggered, it's a win win situation, but seriously, I'm of the mind set live and let live, only while heterosexual people are living you don't normally see them banging away in the park, in the toilets, in Tescos, up a tree, at the bottom of a tree, no they at least have the self control and dignity to find a place to do the dirty deed where no one else can see or hear them, it's just showing respect for other people who don't share in your enthusiasm to do it there and then. so I believe that stories like the one above don't help gay people in any way, it just breeds hatred in people who would previously not thought too much about it. ksc
  • Score: 1

3:29am Tue 31 Aug 10

redfragglerock says...

mungia1 wrote:
StayFrosty wrote:
They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok.

Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless.
Are you sick, or a paedo? The problem is that normal people don't want to see/hear 2 blokes buggering one another, nor do they want their kids to. So don't try to justify such beastly behaviour, save it for the bedroom where it's private. Then, you can do what you like. Is this what a tolerent society has to put up with now??? Perhaps this sort of behaviour is behind some of the homophobic crime we keep reading abaout?
What I can't understand is the ingrained hatred of 'normal people' who are so repulsed by same sex couples. I am not talking about the act of sex, just the reality of two men or two women together. The trouble starts, not in the toilets, but in the street. Could you imagine if two men were able to walk down the street holding hands without a fathers negative reaction, clearly seen by his son? Our children are surrounded by violence, war and hatred - yet the 'normal people' find it impossible to allow two men or two women to love each other.

A room would be nice. Very nice. I think a majority of men would prefer it. But they have a lot to lose by trying to act like a 'normal person'. It is very hard to be a couple behind closed doors, and try and be something else when in public.

As for a tolerant society, no, this isn't what you have to put up with. But an accepting society can have a great deal more.

Think about what you want and how you go about getting it. Adding more hate and anger isn't going to do it.

While this discrimination exists, men who are attracted to other men will continue to find an outlet where they are not exposed to the double-standard of 'normal people'. One day when those two men can walk down the street and 'normal people' don't notice anything different - that is when we become better people, all of us.
[quote][p][bold]mungia1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StayFrosty[/bold] wrote: They're highly likely to be in a cubicle, so I doubt very much you or your young son would notice. Hopefully your son is young enough not to be as uptight about such things. So even if he did see something it might just be ok. Seriously, what's the problem? The only danger now is that people know about it and might cause some aggro for something that's perfectly harmless.[/p][/quote]Are you sick, or a paedo? The problem is that normal people don't want to see/hear 2 blokes buggering one another, nor do they want their kids to. So don't try to justify such beastly behaviour, save it for the bedroom where it's private. Then, you can do what you like. Is this what a tolerent society has to put up with now??? Perhaps this sort of behaviour is behind some of the homophobic crime we keep reading abaout?[/p][/quote]What I can't understand is the ingrained hatred of 'normal people' who are so repulsed by same sex couples. I am not talking about the act of sex, just the reality of two men or two women together. The trouble starts, not in the toilets, but in the street. Could you imagine if two men were able to walk down the street holding hands without a fathers negative reaction, clearly seen by his son? Our children are surrounded by violence, war and hatred - yet the 'normal people' find it impossible to allow two men or two women to love each other. A room would be nice. Very nice. I think a majority of men would prefer it. But they have a lot to lose by trying to act like a 'normal person'. It is very hard to be a couple behind closed doors, and try and be something else when in public. As for a tolerant society, no, this isn't what you have to put up with. But an accepting society can have a great deal more. Think about what you want and how you go about getting it. Adding more hate and anger isn't going to do it. While this discrimination exists, men who are attracted to other men will continue to find an outlet where they are not exposed to the double-standard of 'normal people'. One day when those two men can walk down the street and 'normal people' don't notice anything different - that is when we become better people, all of us. redfragglerock
  • Score: 3

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