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Palace View attack leaves dad in hospital


TWO teenagers have relived the moments their pet dog turned on their dad in a sustained and bloody attack.

Steven and Jonathan Atkins say they were at their home in Palace View, Grove Park, on Sunday night (January 24) when year-old Buster tried to bite 14-year-old Steven.

They claim their father John Atkins, 53, intervened and pulled the dog off, sparking a 15 minute ordeal as the family battled to control their snarling dog.

Jonathan, 16, said he and his dad were barely strong enough to pin down the out-of-control animal, taken in by the family as a stray four months ago.

“Buster must have got a taste for human blood and flesh - it just wouldn’t let go of my dad,” he explained.

“Someone came in with a motorbike helmet and golf club and started bashing them over the dog’s head but it wouldn’t give up.

“My dad was losing a lot of blood. He was crying out ‘help me, help me’.

“I went and got a kitchen knife to stab the dog but my dad told me not too because the dog was so close to him.”

He added: “I eventually got the dog by its back legs and threw it into the back garden.”

Jonathan and his dad then made their way outside to their car, in an effort to get to hospital.

But Jonathan says Buster escaped from the garden and continued its attack, prompting neighbours to call 999.

GROVE PARK: Brothers describe dog attack terror

Despite being blasted with a fire extinguisher, the dog forced its way into the car and then into the back of an ambulance before police arrived at around 9pm.

Jonathan, a former pupil at Catford’s Sedgehill School, said: “The living room was like a murder scene. I was smothered in blood too.

“There was blood all over the lounge floor. Buster was white but by the end of it all he was red, soaked in blood.

“The dog was after my dad - it was trying to kill him.”

Steven, who attends Sedgehill School, was bitten on the hand at the start of the attack and says he and his brother managed to save his dad’s life by helping to beat off the pitbull-type breed.

He added: “I was crying when it was happening.

“My brother and I basically saved our dad’s life - he would have been dead if we weren’t there.

“It was terrifying.

“Buster had always been a loving and caring dog.”

GROVE PARK & PENGE: Father and son injured in dog attack

The teenagers say their dad, who works at a supermarket in Orpington, is expected to be in St Thomas' Hospital for several more weeks, recovering from fractures to his hands and arms.

They say doctors have had to put metal pins into his hands during reconstructive surgery.

The boys live with their 12-year-old sister, Louise, and claim Buster was only ever aggressive to other dogs but never to their family.

Stephen and Jonathan are staying with family in Beckenham and Elmers End while their dad recovers.

The dog is thought to have been destroyed and the Met police have confirmed they are investigating the incident.


Comments(47)

City - Square Mile says...
2:56pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Please Newsshopper tell us you are joking!!

You are giving print space over to Jonathan Atkins, the very same person you deleted all the comments from for his use of foul and threatening language!!
Are we really that short of stories in the local area that you give such vile mouthed people the attention they crave. I am sure I read a comment on the previous story where one of the relatives threatened to cripple memebers of the public that dared to voice an opinion.

Honestly an all time low…………..

Excalibur says...
3:45pm Thu 28 Jan 10

They look exactly like the type of low-life knuckle draggers who would have this type of animal in a misguided attempt to appear 'hard'. Thank heavens that it turned on one of them instead of an innocent member of the public.

pumpkinpie says...
4:00pm Thu 28 Jan 10

If the dog was so loving and caring why did it suddenly flip? I am not pointing fingers but from previous experience a dog will only bite if provoked.

jca111 says...
4:03pm Thu 28 Jan 10

I agree - look at the photo - its a BLOCK OF FLATS!

Dogs like that need a house with a garden minimum, and several walks a day as well

I feel sorry for the dog. At least it turned on them and not an infant in the local park.

City - Square Mile says...
4:14pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Please be careful what you say as the next thing you will have the relatives threatening you with violence.

I am amazed that Jonathan managed to give so an indepth account without the use of the C word!
2 for 1 in the local barbers??

pumpkinpie says...
4:23pm Thu 28 Jan 10

My sister had a english bull terrier so I know a bit about Bull breads and what they can be like. They are correct when they say it wouldn't let go, they will chomp down for all its worth.

City - Square Mile says...
4:30pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Shame it was not for all their worth as it would have let go after about 10 seconds!!

Luckily they had a superman in the house, crash helmet of no use, golf club of no use......what shall I do? Grab it by the back legs and fling it out the house....job done!!

the wall says...
4:49pm Thu 28 Jan 10

pumpkinpie wrote:
If the dog was so loving and caring why did it suddenly flip? I am not pointing fingers but from previous experience a dog will only bite if provoked.
Carefull pointing those fingers !!!

White leather type sofa say no more.

lillly says...
4:55pm Thu 28 Jan 10

OMG the same people are on here again posting comments dont you lot have a job u spongers .your on here 24/7 and putting comments on every article not just this one ,get a life oh and by the way some of you cant read they lived in a house with a garden because i know this family there my nephews .you lot are saddos get a job and grow up.

City - Square Mile says...
5:01pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Lilly may I say your nephews have a very eloquent way of using the Queens English – it is refreshing to see the use of the C word so liberally.
I especially approve of the use of the letter z instead of s to indicate a plural..or should that be pluralz.

By the way the clue of my job is in my name.

City - Square Mile says...
5:12pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Please believe my gripe is not with your family.
As you can see from my first comment I was addressing the fact the Newsshopper deemed it acceptable to interview and publish an article featuring someone who had previously been abusive on the site.

The story was printed originally – we do not really need a blow by blow account from your nephews, especially in light of the comments section previously mentioned.

lillly says...
5:17pm Thu 28 Jan 10

City - Square Mile wrote:
Lilly may I say your nephews have a very eloquent way of using the Queens English – it is refreshing to see the use of the C word so liberally. I especially approve of the use of the letter z instead of s to indicate a plural..or should that be pluralz. By the way the clue of my job is in my name.
you should change your name to billy. BILLY NO MATES

City - Square Mile says...
5:19pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Wow - Great come back!!
Are you sure you’re old enough to be an aunty......quite juvenile retort.

May I just say “Bothered, in yer face”

x-xkeeley91x-x says...
5:19pm Thu 28 Jan 10

City - Square Mile wrote:
Please believe my gripe is not with your family. As you can see from my first comment I was addressing the fact the Newsshopper deemed it acceptable to interview and publish an article featuring someone who had previously been abusive on the site. The story was printed originally – we do not really need a blow by blow account from your nephews, especially in light of the comments section previously mentioned.
Well stop commenting then and go do something actaully useful with your time other than upsetting teenager boys.

lillly says...
5:21pm Thu 28 Jan 10

he was abusive cause people were saying things that wasnt true and its unfair. to have to put up with that people should have a opinion but not be so nasty to upset people .

City - Square Mile says...
5:22pm Thu 28 Jan 10

I apologise for any upset caused and I will now retire.

lillly says...
5:23pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Locked and Loaded wrote:
"Who let the dogs out ? ", "Who let the dogs out ? " I do mean lillly, orpington, x-xkeeley91x-x, and Becky, not poor old Buster. LOL.
another saddo get a life

porkpie says...
5:24pm Thu 28 Jan 10

x-xkeeley91x-x wrote:
City - Square Mile wrote: Please believe my gripe is not with your family. As you can see from my first comment I was addressing the fact the Newsshopper deemed it acceptable to interview and publish an article featuring someone who had previously been abusive on the site. The story was printed originally – we do not really need a blow by blow account from your nephews, especially in light of the comments section previously mentioned.
Well stop commenting then and go do something actaully useful with your time other than upsetting teenager boys.
And your doing what ?????
Like someone said in the other post -
Pot - Kettle.

x-xkeeley91x-x says...
5:26pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Im not upsetting teenage boys am i, im defending!

City - Square Mile says...
5:27pm Thu 28 Jan 10

In hindsight it would have been perhaps more sensible for the young lads not to have been interviewed by the paper and then agree to it being published, especially in light of the earlier comments section when names were being bounded around by all involved.

Just a thought.

x-xkeeley91x-x says...
5:28pm Thu 28 Jan 10

City - Square Mile wrote:
In hindsight it would have been perhaps more sensible for the young lads not to have been interviewed by the paper and then agree to it being published, especially in light of the earlier comments section when names were being bounded around by all involved. Just a thought.
They did it to set it straigh! as people are being so vile

Locked and Loaded says...
5:37pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Buster has more brains than all of them put together.
Good boy Buster.

City - Square Mile says...
5:39pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Unfortunately all the rude messages they left previously are not forgotten.
The paper should have known better but you can not go around using the "C" word to people on a public site and not expect a backlash.
You also can not post threatening to cripple people and not expect people to tar you with a certain brush - it is not the reaction of a normal human being.

Hopefully a lesson learnt by all

x-xkeeley91x-x says...
6:21pm Thu 28 Jan 10

You keep going on about it, get over it, youve said your peace, many times. Now just jump off the wagon!

It's Me again ! says...
7:00pm Thu 28 Jan 10

"taken in as a stray 4months ago"

Well who in their right mind would take a stray pitbull type dog in

Local lady says...
10:09pm Thu 28 Jan 10

One assumes that the dog did not come from a reputable dog rescue organisation? Most likely swapped for drugs or something!
People who take dogs like this into a family home deserve what they get. They are giving decent dog owners a bad name.

City - Square Mile says...
8:03am Fri 29 Jan 10

x-xkeeley91x-x wrote:
You keep going on about it, get over it, youve said your peace, many times. Now just jump off the wagon!
I guess Keeley a rational argument that disagrees with your point of view is too much for some.
So I should "get over it" would you also like me to leave positive comments about how this is the best piece of reporting I have seen in a long time, and how great the teenagers in this story are.

I am sorry they decided to get the papers involved, they were happy for it all to be printed…..you are now hearing what the general public feels.

By the way no bandwagon here....just someone who tells it like it is regardless.

Get Over It!!

kae says...
9:21am Fri 29 Jan 10

jca111 wrote:
I agree - look at the photo - its a BLOCK OF FLATS! Dogs like that need a house with a garden minimum, and several walks a day as well I feel sorry for the dog. At least it turned on them and not an infant in the local park.
I don't believe that this is necessarily true. I am a married 28 year old and I live with my husband ina council flat with our 6 year old Staffie who gets plenty of excercise. I work full time and my husband has just started his own company so that we can buy our own house. I am not your typical 'chav' who has this dog to make me look 'hard'. I don't understand why someone would take in this breed of dog without knowing the dogs history. How do they knwo that someone didn't throw the dog out for agression? I do agree though luckily it wasn't a child or there would have been another fatality!!

Tinker Bell says...
1:49pm Fri 29 Jan 10

""The boys live with their 12-year-old sister, Louise, and claim Buster was only ever aggressive to other dogs but never to their family"" O that ok then if he was only aggressive to other dogs then.....

Surely that would've been a sign that if he could be agreesive to other dogs he could be agreesive to anyone.

As I have said in an early story regarding the dog who killed another dog, it is in a dog's nature to be a hunter and also a pack leader. You can never be certain with any type or breed of dog that it won't ever attack.

LawGrad02 says...
1:59pm Fri 29 Jan 10

I absolutely agree with City - Square Mile - Listen right, if you can't handle the fact that people come on here to express their views, opinions, facts and feelings then maybe you should be the ones to "get over it". Why on earth should we be subjected to a foul mouth rant and then not say another word about it! Just let them be, get over it as you say! Well hell no!! Absolutely absurd i tell you!

ds25 says...
2:07pm Fri 29 Jan 10

“Buster had always been a loving and caring dog.” - in the whole 16weeks they had lived with him!!

Who in their right mind would take in a stray pitbull type dog to live with their kids in a flat having no knowledge of it's previous upbringing - crazy fools!!

Gypo says...
9:53pm Fri 29 Jan 10

This whole story stinks to me. You just happen to find a stray staff/pitbull and out of the goodness of your heart you take it in.
No, in my mind surely you try to find the rightful owners. You hand the dog in to the police.
Its all a pack of lies to me. Stupid parent, dopey boys, cuz, and an aunt to match.
Lillley wiv 3 Ls wots that about ?

K1rky says...
12:22am Sat 30 Jan 10

Why is it always dozy foul mouthed kids who cause grief on here?. They are never your bog standard teenager either, always soppy chavs with their staffs "typin lyk dis". Lilllllllly, fact of the matter is, if you put yourself in the public eye you offer yourself out for criticism, and people will dig up nice little facts about people which they'd rather not be known. Poor Pooch

x-xkeeley91x-x says...
3:15pm Mon 1 Feb 10

ds25 wrote:
“Buster had always been a loving and caring dog.” - in the whole 16weeks they had lived with him!! Who in their right mind would take in a stray pitbull type dog to live with their kids in a flat having no knowledge of it's previous upbringing - crazy fools!!
ITS A HOUSE!

Gypo says...
6:03pm Mon 1 Feb 10

OK cuz it's a house..........a mad house, with a mad dog, and chavvy mad owners.

reptiles says...
6:32pm Tue 2 Feb 10

maybe the reporter got it wrong then but it sure looks like a block of flats to me - even when you look out of the window where the lads are But it does state in the story that they kicked the dog out in the back garden.

However i certainly would not take a stray dog in like that not with children as we all know via press ect how mental these dogs can be. And if as stated it was only aggressive to other dogs - then that must mean that its aggressive natured and as said if its a stray then why not contact the police- do dogs not have to be chipped and have a licence. Sorry not being a dog owner i have no idea But this sort of dog has a bad reputation anyways - so there is now way id take it in- kids or no kids
I also dont agree with some of the comments like they got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. Again dogs are licenced and you can get done for hurting/killing a dog. But if police destroy it then im sure its done in the correct manor.

the wall says...
10:02am Wed 3 Feb 10

reptiles wrote:
maybe the reporter got it wrong then but it sure looks like a block of flats to me - even when you look out of the window where the lads are But it does state in the story that they kicked the dog out in the back garden. However i certainly would not take a stray dog in like that not with children as we all know via press ect how mental these dogs can be. And if as stated it was only aggressive to other dogs - then that must mean that its aggressive natured and as said if its a stray then why not contact the police- do dogs not have to be chipped and have a licence. Sorry not being a dog owner i have no idea But this sort of dog has a bad reputation anyways - so there is now way id take it in- kids or no kids I also dont agree with some of the comments like they got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. Again dogs are licenced and you can get done for hurting/killing a dog. But if police destroy it then im sure its done in the correct manor.
You don't half write a load of dribble.
1. do dogs not have to be chipped and have a licence. - Licence went out 20 odd years ago. Not that they served any propose. Chipped only if going abroad.
2. They got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. If you saw a good ripping lumps of flesh out of a relative would you not use extreme force. 3. Again dogs are licensed and you can get done for hurting/killing a dog. What's with this again dogs are licensed, what the hell does that matter. Also do you not think that if a dog was attacking someone that the use of extreme force would be ok. Your in cloud cuckoo land.

Marty1979 says...
10:52am Wed 3 Feb 10

On the earlier article

http://www.newsshopp
er.co.uk/news/487008
2.GROVE_PARK___PENGE
__Father_and_son_inj
ured_in_dog_attack/

Another of the comments made was:-

BeckyParish wrote:
your all fools this dog was a staff ive seen it . also it was taken in as a stray a short time ago. it was a friendly dog they didnt bring the dog up and it was not used for fighting either. you people who put nasty comments have got sad lifes. and nothing better to do you dont know anything so keep your opinions to your self and get a life you saddos.
If it was taken in as a stray there is no way of knowing the background, also "they didn't bring it up" - so for all anyone knows it might have been bred & trained for fighting.

reptiles says...
2:11pm Wed 3 Feb 10

the wall wrote:
reptiles wrote:
maybe the reporter got it wrong then but it sure looks like a block of flats to me - even when you look out of the window where the lads are But it does state in the story that they kicked the dog out in the back garden. However i certainly would not take a stray dog in like that not with children as we all know via press ect how mental these dogs can be. And if as stated it was only aggressive to other dogs - then that must mean that its aggressive natured and as said if its a stray then why not contact the police- do dogs not have to be chipped and have a licence. Sorry not being a dog owner i have no idea But this sort of dog has a bad reputation anyways - so there is now way id take it in- kids or no kids I also dont agree with some of the comments like they got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. Again dogs are licenced and you can get done for hurting/killing a dog. But if police destroy it then im sure its done in the correct manor.
You don't half write a load of dribble.
1. do dogs not have to be chipped and have a licence. - Licence went out 20 odd years ago. Not that they served any propose. Chipped only if going abroad.
2. They got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. If you saw a good ripping lumps of flesh out of a relative would you not use extreme force. 3. Again dogs are licensed and you can get done for hurting/killing a dog. What's with this again dogs are licensed, what the hell does that matter. Also do you not think that if a dog was attacking someone that the use of extreme force would be ok. Your in cloud cuckoo land.
No i would not go to that extreme, but then i would not take in a staff type dog that was a stray. Id contact the RSPCA or police. Your answer about chips is wrong, you dont have to just have them chipped to go abroad - a passport they need yes! Lots of people have their animals chipped - YES even Reptiles. Reason people have them chipped is so if lost they can be found. As for liecnces you may recall earlier i said " i have no idea about dogs" but i know years ago if you bought a dog you had to have a licence and also with these types of dogs people usually get them chipped ect. Yes you can get done for hurting/killing a dog - unfortunate thats not the case with all animals, But. As i said i know nothing about dogs, i do know a bit about cites. But if it were a pet of mine id have it chipped. Maybe im just mad, but then being a reptile owner youd probably agree i am mad!
Your comment about if i saw someone being attacked No i would not use extreme force - reason- the more you hurt the dog the more its gonna bite and not let go!
So no need for your rude comments about me living in cuckoo land

the wall says...
4:54pm Wed 3 Feb 10

You freely say you know nothing about dogs and then give advice about dogs........ Cuckoo. I've had dogs for over 40 years. I have shown dogs at shows and but on demo to show what the animal can do. When a dog attacks it's their life or yours. What you going to doing ....roll over and die..... not me I will take it out.

reptiles says...
5:16pm Wed 3 Feb 10

no i dotn think im giving advice on dogs mearly saying my thoughts. So you show dogs and show what they can do what by brushing their coats and prancing around shows. - sorry you asked for that! Dogs like all animals walk poo sleep! sorry i dont believe they should have ribbons in their hair and wear clothes, or be paraded around shows. but thats my opinion. Like all animals if you show the dog/animal respect you like to think its gonna show it back so if you smack the dog with something like a club then you should expect to take the consequences. Sorry i dont do birds, :) and if you have had dogs for over 40 yrs you should know better that to say its ok to beat it. Like children if they are taught properly then there is no need for violence and i for 1 will NOT advocate violence so if your violent to dogs maybe you should not keep them!! END OF!!

the wall says...
9:49am Thu 4 Feb 10

Lets just go over a few points I made.
1) you write a load of dribble.
2) You are a cuckoo.
3) You know nothing about dogs.
4) I have never beaten a dog. When did say that.
5) You like to grab the wrong end of the stick.

Looking back at point 4 and 5.
I said if a dog is attacking someone then to save that persons life it would be ok to use force........ Can you get that into your thicko head. So stop twisting what I'm saying. You just make yourself look like a cockoo. You come across as very narrow minded, you watch to much Cruffs.

reptiles says...
11:33am Thu 4 Feb 10

sorry sweetie you are in cuckoo land I not watch cruffs - i have better things to do that watch dogs being paraded around. Did i say you had beaten a dog - i think not!!!!!No but according to you who obviously knows me so well i am thick headed coz unlike you i know nothing about dogs and DONT pretend to mearly giving my opinion but hey in your book thats not allowed Only your opinion is. How can i be narrow minded if i was then maybe id be doing what others are doing and slating the family - WHICH I AM NOT!!! mearly stating MY OPINION on dogs. so go do something more useful and walk your doggies around a room showing off their good points

the wall says...
12:22pm Thu 4 Feb 10

Look you fool read back what you have written " if you have had dogs for over 40 yrs you should know better that to say its ok to beat it. " THERE YOU SEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stick wrong end ........... Again Cuckoo.

reptiles says...
3:46pm Thu 4 Feb 10

im so sorry what i should have said is you say its ok to use extreme force not beat it - amounts to the same thing "They got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. If you saw a good ripping lumps of flesh out of a relative would you not use extreme force.When a dog attacks it's their life or yours. What you going to doing ....roll over and die..... not me I will take it out." = take it out meaning hurt or kill the animal
what your saying is its OK to use extreme force ( or in my words beat the poor thing)

the wall says...
4:06pm Thu 4 Feb 10

reptiles wrote:
im so sorry what i should have said is you say its ok to use extreme force not beat it - amounts to the same thing "They got a gold club etc and wanted to stab the dog with a kitchen knife. If you saw a good ripping lumps of flesh out of a relative would you not use extreme force.When a dog attacks it's their life or yours. What you going to doing ....roll over and die..... not me I will take it out." = take it out meaning hurt or kill the animal what your saying is its OK to use extreme force ( or in my words beat the poor thing)
YES WHEN YOUR LIFE IS ON THE LINE

Local lady says...
11:36pm Thu 11 Feb 10

Goodness, you two are talking a laod of nonsence between you!

If you read the Bateson report you would know that soon it will be law for ALL dogs to be micro chipped for identification. This is to protect dogs, s stop back street breeder and to identify them where dogs originated from if they are ill treated, stolen, lost or abandoned.
Furthermore dogs are shon to demonstrate their conformation. A dog is groomed so it isn't shown in a dirty state.


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