Father-of-four and puppy pursued by giant cat

SYDENHAM: Jogger chased through wood by Beast of Sydenham

The beast is believed by experts to be a black leopard

Roger Fleming with children Tia, 11, and Kaden, three

First published in News News Shopper: Photograph of the Author by , deputy news editor

A JOGGER was forced to run for his life after encountering the infamous Beast of Sydenham.

Father-of-four Roger Fleming, 40, was on a late night run with his puppy King on December 9 near Sydenham Hill station when a giant cat chased them through Dulwich Wood.

Mr Fleming believes the creature, which he says looked like a brown cheetah, was the Beast of Sydenham, seen several times in the area over the years.

The building services manager first saw the beast at the bottom of a path in the wood.

He said: “It was at least five or six feet long.

“I thought to myself ‘what the hell is this?’ That’s when the panic set in.

“It sat there, locked its eyes on to me, sat up and - boom - it started running towards us.”

Mr Fleming grabbed hold of his Staffordshire bull terrier and ran through the wood.

News Shopper: Roger Fleming with children Tia (11) and Kaden

He said: “I looked over my shoulder and could see it still running at me.

“I was just thinking ‘please stop’. It was knackering and I was almost ready to give up.

“I was thinking ‘this is it - I think I’m going to die’.”

After realising the beast had given up the chase, Mr Fleming rushed home to Dulwich and read about other sightings on the News Shopper website.

He said: “When I got home I was almost in tears the adrenalin was pumping through me so fast.

“I swear an oath to God never to go to that same part at night again.

“There should be signs telling people to take some caution because they’re walking around willy-nilly.”

Neil Arnold, a researcher who runs Kent Big Cat Research, said the beast is believed to be a black leopard, the offspring of pets released into the wild.

He said: “He should have stood his ground, maintained eye contact and backed off slowly - but it’s easy to say that.

“People don’t need to panic because big cats won’t harm them.

“I do this full-time to let people know that these animals aren’t a threat.”

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12:38pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Carparkattendant says...

Good job he is a fast runner. A cheeta is the fastest animal on 4 legs. He should enter for the Olympics.
Good job he is a fast runner. A cheeta is the fastest animal on 4 legs. He should enter for the Olympics. Carparkattendant
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12:59pm Mon 14 Dec 09

orpington_guy says...

I'm sorry for the cynicism but this guy managed to out run a black leopard? An animal that can run at up to speeds of 36mph.
I'm sorry for the cynicism but this guy managed to out run a black leopard? An animal that can run at up to speeds of 36mph. orpington_guy
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1:51pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

Attention seeker...
Attention seeker... Make Life
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2:06pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Excalibur says...

'tis the season to be jolly...........p*ss
ed! I reckon he was on his way home after a Christmas do. A tad too much to drink I think.
'tis the season to be jolly...........p*ss ed! I reckon he was on his way home after a Christmas do. A tad too much to drink I think. Excalibur
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3:08pm Mon 14 Dec 09

madras says...

I've seen the Beast of Sydenham. She drinks in my local. I too would run scared of her if I met her in the woods. 'He should have stood his ground, maintained eye contact and backed off slowly' - I tried that but she was having none of it, she followed me to the bar and wouldn't leave me alone until I'd bought her another lager and black...
I've seen the Beast of Sydenham. She drinks in my local. I too would run scared of her if I met her in the woods. 'He should have stood his ground, maintained eye contact and backed off slowly' - I tried that but she was having none of it, she followed me to the bar and wouldn't leave me alone until I'd bought her another lager and black... madras
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3:11pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Hi just a quick note for the non belivers, please go down their for a jog any night you please. it seems the police won't take this serious until theirs a body found. and excalibur your an idiot, what more can I say. R fleming.
Hi just a quick note for the non belivers, please go down their for a jog any night you please. it seems the police won't take this serious until theirs a body found. and excalibur your an idiot, what more can I say. R fleming. tiakaden
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3:14pm Mon 14 Dec 09

StayFrosty says...

I know were not meant to be taking this seriously but surely it cant be a coincidence that so many people have seen a giant cat around south london? Are they really all hallucinating or drunk and imagining exactly the same thing? That seems more unlikely
I know were not meant to be taking this seriously but surely it cant be a coincidence that so many people have seen a giant cat around south london? Are they really all hallucinating or drunk and imagining exactly the same thing? That seems more unlikely StayFrosty
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3:34pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Respose to make a life in your heart.
"you mug" The paper takes the pictures not me. it's the story that's important.
Respose to make a life in your heart. "you mug" The paper takes the pictures not me. it's the story that's important. tiakaden
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3:35pm Mon 14 Dec 09

RedRevolver says...

tiakaden wrote:
Hi just a quick note for the non belivers, please go down their for a jog any night you please. it seems the police won't take this serious until theirs a body found. and excalibur your an idiot, what more can I say. R fleming.
Yes, tiakaden - Excalibur is indeed an idiot, he has proven him/herself that on more than one occasion.
[quote][p][bold]tiakaden[/bold] wrote: Hi just a quick note for the non belivers, please go down their for a jog any night you please. it seems the police won't take this serious until theirs a body found. and excalibur your an idiot, what more can I say. R fleming.[/p][/quote]Yes, tiakaden - Excalibur is indeed an idiot, he has proven him/herself that on more than one occasion. RedRevolver
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3:40pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

response to Stay Frosty.

Why not? how many reports from so many different people need to be seen for this to hit home???
response to Stay Frosty. Why not? how many reports from so many different people need to be seen for this to hit home??? tiakaden
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3:45pm Mon 14 Dec 09

StayFrosty says...

Yeah I know. i was agreeing with you. In an inarticulate way. I can't imagine you were running away from a fox.

I don't see why its so hard to believe there might be some big cats out there. If people did have them as pets it seems perfectly reasonable there could be some on the loose.
Yeah I know. i was agreeing with you. In an inarticulate way. I can't imagine you were running away from a fox. I don't see why its so hard to believe there might be some big cats out there. If people did have them as pets it seems perfectly reasonable there could be some on the loose. StayFrosty
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4:29pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to Stay Frosty.
I do understand why people are in doubt. I'm still convincing myself on a daily basis. it's only the articles that I've seen that have made me realise how real it is. Belive me I wish I was reading this about somebody else. but my daughters primary school visits this woods on a regular basis, is this what it's going to take? have a look into the sightings around England, it's not just Sydenham. R.Fleming.
Response to Stay Frosty. I do understand why people are in doubt. I'm still convincing myself on a daily basis. it's only the articles that I've seen that have made me realise how real it is. Belive me I wish I was reading this about somebody else. but my daughters primary school visits this woods on a regular basis, is this what it's going to take? have a look into the sightings around England, it's not just Sydenham. R.Fleming. tiakaden
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4:39pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Thank you Red Revolver.
I expect to hear many negative comments, people are generally like that. it's just one of those stories that will always sound crazy. either you say it, or you shut up until someone else suffers for it. Rfleming
Thank you Red Revolver. I expect to hear many negative comments, people are generally like that. it's just one of those stories that will always sound crazy. either you say it, or you shut up until someone else suffers for it. Rfleming tiakaden
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4:44pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Jon' O says...

I believe you you Roger. There's been so many sightings in Sydenham.
I can't see with all the signtings how there can't be a leopard out there? I hope the police do see sense & take this matter seriously.
I believe you you Roger. There's been so many sightings in Sydenham. I can't see with all the signtings how there can't be a leopard out there? I hope the police do see sense & take this matter seriously. Jon' O
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4:49pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

response to Orpington Guy.

We didn't have a race mate ??????
response to Orpington Guy. We didn't have a race mate ?????? tiakaden
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5:05pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

tiakaden wrote:
Respose to make a life in your heart. "you mug" The paper takes the pictures not me. it's the story that's important.
Why am i a mug?? I called this person an attention seeker....please tell me how that makes me a mug? By looking at the response that you have put im thinking that you are Mr Fleming? Now, if this story is true, and you are telling the truth why would you be slagging people off? Surley if it was true wouldnt you be defending yourself and telling us about what happend. The way that you have reacted makes me think that you could be telling porkie pies.
[quote][p][bold]tiakaden[/bold] wrote: Respose to make a life in your heart. "you mug" The paper takes the pictures not me. it's the story that's important.[/p][/quote]Why am i a mug?? I called this person an attention seeker....please tell me how that makes me a mug? By looking at the response that you have put im thinking that you are Mr Fleming? Now, if this story is true, and you are telling the truth why would you be slagging people off? Surley if it was true wouldnt you be defending yourself and telling us about what happend. The way that you have reacted makes me think that you could be telling porkie pies. Make Life
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5:30pm Mon 14 Dec 09

K1rky says...

You thought you were going to be killed by a big 6ft **** cat, so the first thing you do when you get home is go onto the news shopper website.

What a tool, you could of at least smiled for the photo before coming on here getting on the defensive as part of your attention seeking. Deary me....
You thought you were going to be killed by a big 6ft **** cat, so the first thing you do when you get home is go onto the news shopper website. What a tool, you could of at least smiled for the photo before coming on here getting on the defensive as part of your attention seeking. Deary me.... K1rky
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5:31pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to Make life in your Heart.

Yes You are a mug also a smart ****! it's just the idiots I'm cursing. you never asked anything about my story you just pressume everybody bullshits to get attention.so don't get all protective. I wish you was there then I could have witnessed you getting your **** torn off. I'm sure you in bits would be more convincing than my story. and who still says porkie pies. I'm not Del Boy. R Fleming.
Response to Make life in your Heart. Yes You are a mug also a smart ****! it's just the idiots I'm cursing. you never asked anything about my story you just pressume everybody bullshits to get attention.so don't get all protective. I wish you was there then I could have witnessed you getting your **** torn off. I'm sure you in bits would be more convincing than my story. and who still says porkie pies. I'm not Del Boy. R Fleming. tiakaden
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5:36pm Mon 14 Dec 09

K1rky says...

I cant say "**** cat" without putting an * in pu*sy?

C'mon NS!
I cant say "**** cat" without putting an * in pu*sy? C'mon NS! K1rky
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5:39pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

tiakaden wrote:
Response to Make life in your Heart. Yes You are a mug also a smart ****! it's just the idiots I'm cursing. you never asked anything about my story you just pressume everybody bullshits to get attention.so don't get all protective. I wish you was there then I could have witnessed you getting your **** torn off. I'm sure you in bits would be more convincing than my story. and who still says porkie pies. I'm not Del Boy. R Fleming.
Now now, lets not burst a blood vesel over this. You have still failed to tell me how im a mug, and now a smartar$e. Also, At what point in my reply to you was I being protective? You seem like such a nice person though, you would leave someone who is being attacked, thats not nice at all now is it. I never asked anything about your story because I didnt know that you would be on here reading about yourself. Now your here though please do tell us why you went to the Newsshopper. Hows the dog coping?
[quote][p][bold]tiakaden[/bold] wrote: Response to Make life in your Heart. Yes You are a mug also a smart ****! it's just the idiots I'm cursing. you never asked anything about my story you just pressume everybody bullshits to get attention.so don't get all protective. I wish you was there then I could have witnessed you getting your **** torn off. I'm sure you in bits would be more convincing than my story. and who still says porkie pies. I'm not Del Boy. R Fleming.[/p][/quote]Now now, lets not burst a blood vesel over this. You have still failed to tell me how im a mug, and now a smartar$e. Also, At what point in my reply to you was I being protective? You seem like such a nice person though, you would leave someone who is being attacked, thats not nice at all now is it. I never asked anything about your story because I didnt know that you would be on here reading about yourself. Now your here though please do tell us why you went to the Newsshopper. Hows the dog coping? Make Life
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5:41pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

K1rky,

I think that he is trying to look like that ganster from Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Double 'ard
K1rky, I think that he is trying to look like that ganster from Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Double 'ard Make Life
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5:43pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to K1rky little lagos... NO.....The interview what I gave never said that I searched the Web when I got home. after the incident I spent a whole night sitting up after telling my wife what happened scared shitless. when I went into work the following morning I typed animal sightings crystal palace on google,that's when I saw I had something to connect with what I saw. after that I called the Police then the rspca. then I responded to a blog on one of the old sightings on the News Shopper Website. that's how they heard about me, and they called me back. if you need to know something why not just ask is this not what a Blog is for. R.fleming
Response to K1rky little lagos... NO.....The interview what I gave never said that I searched the Web when I got home. after the incident I spent a whole night sitting up after telling my wife what happened scared shitless. when I went into work the following morning I typed animal sightings crystal palace on google,that's when I saw I had something to connect with what I saw. after that I called the Police then the rspca. then I responded to a blog on one of the old sightings on the News Shopper Website. that's how they heard about me, and they called me back. if you need to know something why not just ask is this not what a Blog is for. R.fleming tiakaden
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5:43pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

Make Life wrote:
K1rky, I think that he is trying to look like that ganster from Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Double 'ard
Rory Breaker: If the milk turns out to be sour, I ain't the kinda pu**y to drink it. Classic
[quote][p][bold]Make Life[/bold] wrote: K1rky, I think that he is trying to look like that ganster from Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. Double 'ard[/p][/quote]Rory Breaker: If the milk turns out to be sour, I ain't the kinda pu**y to drink it. Classic Make Life
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5:49pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to make life in your heart.

You didn't know I would be reading this so that's why your making smartass comments about something you obviously don't care about....... your Boring me I'm trying to do something helpful here. look above and you can read yourself how New Shopper heard about this and got in touch with me not the other way around and my dog. none of your business.......
Response to make life in your heart. You didn't know I would be reading this so that's why your making smartass comments about something you obviously don't care about....... your Boring me I'm trying to do something helpful here. look above and you can read yourself how New Shopper heard about this and got in touch with me not the other way around and my dog. none of your business....... tiakaden
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5:55pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to Make Life...............I
'm trying to look like what? can you see me or something??
Response to Make Life...............I 'm trying to look like what? can you see me or something?? tiakaden
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5:56pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

tiakaden wrote:
Response to make life in your heart. You didn't know I would be reading this so that's why your making smartass comments about something you obviously don't care about....... your Boring me I'm trying to do something helpful here. look above and you can read yourself how New Shopper heard about this and got in touch with me not the other way around and my dog. none of your business.......
But how am i a mug? Yeah your right I dont care about this story to be honest, im just killing time before I go home.
[quote][p][bold]tiakaden[/bold] wrote: Response to make life in your heart. You didn't know I would be reading this so that's why your making smartass comments about something you obviously don't care about....... your Boring me I'm trying to do something helpful here. look above and you can read yourself how New Shopper heard about this and got in touch with me not the other way around and my dog. none of your business.......[/p][/quote]But how am i a mug? Yeah your right I dont care about this story to be honest, im just killing time before I go home. Make Life
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5:58pm Mon 14 Dec 09

Make Life says...

tiakaden wrote:
Response to Make Life...............I 'm trying to look like what? can you see me or something??
There is a picture of you in the article!!! You look like youve got that cocky swaggar about you. You look tough, I think that you could of had this cat, i mean beast if you tackled it one on one.
[quote][p][bold]tiakaden[/bold] wrote: Response to Make Life...............I 'm trying to look like what? can you see me or something??[/p][/quote]There is a picture of you in the article!!! You look like youve got that cocky swaggar about you. You look tough, I think that you could of had this cat, i mean beast if you tackled it one on one. Make Life
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6:13pm Mon 14 Dec 09

supergee says...

i can believe the idiot from little lagos comments. I don't think someone would go as far as this to achieve attention (what is there to gain). It sounds like you mr Kirky spends his time at home never going out and when he does sitting in his 4 by 4. If you had kids you would understand why Mr Fleming reported the incident. If you had kids or had anyone that you actually cared for you would realise that mr Fleming is trying to warn people to be more Vigilant when walking along the trial. As for comments about at least you could smile, would you smile if you were scared for your life, we obviously have a del boy plonker amongst us....
i can believe the idiot from little lagos comments. I don't think someone would go as far as this to achieve attention (what is there to gain). It sounds like you mr Kirky spends his time at home never going out and when he does sitting in his 4 by 4. If you had kids you would understand why Mr Fleming reported the incident. If you had kids or had anyone that you actually cared for you would realise that mr Fleming is trying to warn people to be more Vigilant when walking along the trial. As for comments about at least you could smile, would you smile if you were scared for your life, we obviously have a del boy plonker amongst us.... supergee
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6:15pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to Lagos, whats there to smile about?? being nearly eaten
Response to Lagos, whats there to smile about?? being nearly eaten tiakaden
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6:38pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

Response to Make life. so I look like a thug now. is that what you see from my picture with me and my kids. you've been reading the papers too much. I'm a family man and a working man. not one of the boys you avoid sitting next to on a train when you travel into work. It seems this is about more than just my story. that's a shame.
Response to Make life. so I look like a thug now. is that what you see from my picture with me and my kids. you've been reading the papers too much. I'm a family man and a working man. not one of the boys you avoid sitting next to on a train when you travel into work. It seems this is about more than just my story. that's a shame. tiakaden
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6:44pm Mon 14 Dec 09

K1rky says...

All it wanted to do was to play with the dog...
In all honesty I think Mr Fleming has got too much off a mouth on him, saying he wished to see someone get torn up by this cat. Yes Mr Fleming you maybe warning people that kids play in this area, but you ain't setting a good example to your kids by wishing someone to be torn up by this animal. Sort it out. In response to Supergee, I work full time and have a Astra hatchback thankyou... 4X4's are bad for the environment dontcha know! ;-)
All it wanted to do was to play with the dog... In all honesty I think Mr Fleming has got too much off a mouth on him, saying he wished to see someone get torn up by this cat. Yes Mr Fleming you maybe warning people that kids play in this area, but you ain't setting a good example to your kids by wishing someone to be torn up by this animal. Sort it out. In response to Supergee, I work full time and have a Astra hatchback thankyou... 4X4's are bad for the environment dontcha know! ;-) K1rky
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9:31pm Mon 14 Dec 09

tiakaden says...

reponse to Jon O Beckenham.

Thank You Jon, a little common sense at last. I have made some harsh comments on this blog to the normal trouble seekers but getting something done about this is the most important thing here. I've warned the local school about this, I'm tierd of calling the police and RSPCA. let's hope someone does something soon.
reponse to Jon O Beckenham. Thank You Jon, a little common sense at last. I have made some harsh comments on this blog to the normal trouble seekers but getting something done about this is the most important thing here. I've warned the local school about this, I'm tierd of calling the police and RSPCA. let's hope someone does something soon. tiakaden
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10:46pm Mon 14 Dec 09

memyselfi says...

I think I'd be more afraid of the man's pit bull than I would the big cat. At least the panther is, by nature, afraid of man--unless, of course, he's injured or cornered.
I think I'd be more afraid of the man's pit bull than I would the big cat. At least the panther is, by nature, afraid of man--unless, of course, he's injured or cornered. memyselfi
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7:10am Tue 15 Dec 09

Excalibur says...

Oh dear, it appears that this attention seeker is slightly upset. Please could you explain why, if this beast is so active and such a huge and noticeable monster, it has never been clearly photographed? Why has it never been seen by a normal person, only by attention seekers who run straight to the newspaper? Why has it not attacked a human, only supposedly choosing to chase the bionic man who can out run it? Why does it only decide to come out and scare people after pub closing time? I think we should be told!
Oh dear, it appears that this attention seeker is slightly upset. Please could you explain why, if this beast is so active and such a huge and noticeable monster, it has never been clearly photographed? Why has it never been seen by a normal person, only by attention seekers who run straight to the newspaper? Why has it not attacked a human, only supposedly choosing to chase the bionic man who can out run it? Why does it only decide to come out and scare people after pub closing time? I think we should be told! Excalibur
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10:44am Tue 15 Dec 09

porkpie says...

What are the Police meant to do. Surround the woods with armed coppers. Stop everyone using the woods. Build a big litter tray. Lets just educate people, we can all live along side these wonderful animals. I'm going up there with my meat suit on and a big ball of string for this kitty to play with.
What are the Police meant to do. Surround the woods with armed coppers. Stop everyone using the woods. Build a big litter tray. Lets just educate people, we can all live along side these wonderful animals. I'm going up there with my meat suit on and a big ball of string for this kitty to play with. porkpie
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3:36pm Tue 15 Dec 09

G.Thomas says...

I have seen regular Leopards in Africa though they are very hard to spot in the wild. The last one I saw was perched on a tree branch about 40 feet up in the air. If you want to go looking for it I would look in the trees. Probably wouldn't attack a human unless you startled it and I doubt you would see it coming anyway before it landed on your back. Tethering a goat or other small animal to a stake overnight and examining what remains in the morning would be a lot better than trying to tempt it with a Pork Pie.
I have seen regular Leopards in Africa though they are very hard to spot in the wild. The last one I saw was perched on a tree branch about 40 feet up in the air. If you want to go looking for it I would look in the trees. Probably wouldn't attack a human unless you startled it and I doubt you would see it coming anyway before it landed on your back. Tethering a goat or other small animal to a stake overnight and examining what remains in the morning would be a lot better than trying to tempt it with a Pork Pie. G.Thomas
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4:41pm Tue 15 Dec 09

porkpie says...

G.Thomas wrote:
I have seen regular Leopards in Africa though they are very hard to spot in the wild. The last one I saw was perched on a tree branch about 40 feet up in the air. If you want to go looking for it I would look in the trees. Probably wouldn't attack a human unless you startled it and I doubt you would see it coming anyway before it landed on your back. Tethering a goat or other small animal to a stake overnight and examining what remains in the morning would be a lot better than trying to tempt it with a Pork Pie.
Maybe it's Jewish. But very good comment. There are plenty of chavs/asbo types about can we not use one of them.
[quote][p][bold]G.Thomas[/bold] wrote: I have seen regular Leopards in Africa though they are very hard to spot in the wild. The last one I saw was perched on a tree branch about 40 feet up in the air. If you want to go looking for it I would look in the trees. Probably wouldn't attack a human unless you startled it and I doubt you would see it coming anyway before it landed on your back. Tethering a goat or other small animal to a stake overnight and examining what remains in the morning would be a lot better than trying to tempt it with a Pork Pie.[/p][/quote]Maybe it's Jewish. But very good comment. There are plenty of chavs/asbo types about can we not use one of them. porkpie
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10:20am Wed 16 Dec 09

madras says...

how about a police search helicopter one night using heat detector to search the area - although I'm sure there will be one or two sources of heat of the two legged variety!
how about a police search helicopter one night using heat detector to search the area - although I'm sure there will be one or two sources of heat of the two legged variety! madras
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12:56pm Wed 16 Dec 09

Make Life says...

madras wrote:
how about a police search helicopter one night using heat detector to search the area - although I'm sure there will be one or two sources of heat of the two legged variety!
Its a waste of Police time and money especially if it only been seen a handfull of times over a few years.
[quote][p][bold]madras[/bold] wrote: how about a police search helicopter one night using heat detector to search the area - although I'm sure there will be one or two sources of heat of the two legged variety![/p][/quote]Its a waste of Police time and money especially if it only been seen a handfull of times over a few years. Make Life
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1:01pm Thu 17 Dec 09

Beckenhamlady says...

some great comment here, Chavs and asbo kids sounds like a good idea.
some great comment here, Chavs and asbo kids sounds like a good idea. Beckenhamlady
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2:55pm Thu 17 Dec 09

Orp Boy says...

You must be quicker than usain bolt and you done it carrying a dog.

We should set up a camera where you saw it and put out some kitty Kat and see what happens
You must be quicker than usain bolt and you done it carrying a dog. We should set up a camera where you saw it and put out some kitty Kat and see what happens Orp Boy
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9:28am Sat 19 Dec 09

HelenBee says...

Tikaden - I absolutely believe you. My family and I saw what the paper called the 'palace puma' last August in Stambourne Woods in Crystal Palace in very similar circumstances. I reported it to the police and posted a warning on local forums, because I was concerned that children could be hurt. That's how the paper picked up the story.

You have to accept that people won't believe you. I must admit, if I hadn't seen a big cat myself, I'd probably be laughing at such stories. But like you, I don't have any other explanation for what we saw.

I found Neil Arnold helpful and reassuring. You can get in touch with him through his blog http://www.roadghost
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Tikaden - I absolutely believe you. My family and I saw what the paper called the 'palace puma' last August in Stambourne Woods in Crystal Palace in very similar circumstances. I reported it to the police and posted a warning on local forums, because I was concerned that children could be hurt. That's how the paper picked up the story. You have to accept that people won't believe you. I must admit, if I hadn't seen a big cat myself, I'd probably be laughing at such stories. But like you, I don't have any other explanation for what we saw. I found Neil Arnold helpful and reassuring. You can get in touch with him through his blog http://www.roadghost s.com/KentBigCatRese arch.htm HelenBee
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