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UPDATE - ST PAUL'S CRAY: Murder investigation after traveller killed
9:54am Monday 2nd November 2009
THIS photograph shows the scene inside the house where a father-of-two was killed at the weekend.
The 36-year-old, named locally as Moses Duvall, is believed to have been stabbed in Swallowtail Close in St Paul’s Cray some time on Friday night (October 30).
Police were called to the quiet cul-de-sac near Star Lane at around 12.30am on Saturday (October 31).
Ambulance crews and an air ambulance attended but the man was pronounced dead at the scene.
At the scene today (November 2) the man’s cousin, who did not want to be named, confirmed the man was a married traveller with children.
Floral tributes have been left outside the gated, two-storey family home, which remains behind a police cordon.
One reads: "To Mosey, we will miss you very much, so sorry this has happened, love always, Curly, Jeanette and Tanya, RIP xxxx"
Another tribute reads: "To Uncle Mosey, god bless love from Courtney."
It is thought the attack may have happened following an argument in the Priory Tavern pub in Orpington High Street.
James Bellsham-Revell, a project worker at the Bromley Gypsy and Traveller Project, representing travellers in the borough, said he became aware of Mr Duvall’s death on Saturday.
He said: “I think this is an appalling incident - someone cut down at that age.
“It will have devastated his partner and kids.
“I’m amazed - he was a likeable chap and very pleasant.”
Mr Duvall’s parents are thought to live at the travellers site in nearby Star Lane.
Chanel Walters has recently moved into the street and lives next door to where the murder happened.
She believes the man had two daughters.
The mum-of-three said: “I was not here when it happened but the man himself was lovely and would always say good morning.
“They seemed like quite nice people and a nice little family."
The 27-year-old added: “It was a bit weird coming home and seeing all this.”
A post-mortem examination took place on Sunday (November 1) at the Princess Royal University Hospital in Farnborough which revealed the man had suffered a stab wound to his chest.
Police have now launched a murder investigation and currently no arrests have been made.
An incident room has opened under the Met's homicide and serious crime command.
Anyone with any information should call 0300 123 1212 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
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lariej, swanley says...
6:01pm Mon 2 Nov 09
THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND MAY JUSTICE BE DONE XXX
It's Me again !, says...
6:34pm Mon 2 Nov 09
Thinking of his family and friends x
wish, bexley says...
6:40pm Mon 2 Nov 09
lazygirl, orpington says...
10:10pm Mon 2 Nov 09
charmaine, bromley says...
10:37pm Mon 2 Nov 09
loveumoses, bromley says...
11:14pm Mon 2 Nov 09
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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you will never be forgottenxxxxx
peter, ladywell, ladywell says...
11:17pm Mon 2 Nov 09
missmilf09, dartford says...
9:26am Tue 3 Nov 09
pumpkin123, orpington says...
11:25am Tue 3 Nov 09
Also wishing Sarah a safe recovery from such a viscous, savage attack!
****
jen4curly, lewisham says...
1:12pm Tue 3 Nov 09
xxxxxxxxxx
Beckenhamlady, beckenham says...
2:49pm Tue 3 Nov 09
Jade x, kent says...
8:26pm Tue 3 Nov 09
I can't believe people could do such horrible things in life, all over a little argument anyway. My thoughts go out to you and your loving family at this sad time. Don't worry the people that done this to you will get what is coming to them and it will not be nice, then you and your family will be the ones smiling at the end when justice is served. Rest in Peace boy Xx
k91985, orpington says...
11:46pm Tue 3 Nov 09
It's Me again !, says...
1:41pm Wed 4 Nov 09
The headline of this story is "traveller killed"
Couldnt it have been "father killed" or "husband killed"....
why make the most important thing about this story the fact that he was a traveller ??
Surely thats slightly racist ?
After all, you wouldnt put a headine saying "black boy killed" !!
Responce NS ?
pumpkin123, orpington says...
2:04pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Moses was a well known, well liked family man.
'Father of two, horrifically murdered'.
And why no mention of the savage attack on Sarah....
Lets hope that the police manage to catch the people involved.
It's Me again !, says...
2:32pm Wed 4 Nov 09
pumpkin123 wrote:And something else I've noticed.
Agree 100%. The ethinicity, colour, creed, religion is irrelevant. Moses was a well known, well liked family man. 'Father of two, horrifically murdered'. And why no mention of the savage attack on Sarah.... Lets hope that the police manage to catch the people involved.
There isn't one bad comment about Moses.
Normally on stories like these all the nasty comments start about how the person wasn't an angel or even deserved what happened.
Just goes to show that although Moses was a "Traveller" he was infact a nice fella who was respected and liked.
What a credit to his family x
pumpkin123, orpington says...
3:13pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Guilty, ashamed, scared, disgusted an disgraced are but a few that come to mind.
I'm sure some low life out there will pipe up and try to justify it... but am convinced it will fall on deaf ears.
Why no mention in the national press either... The tragic incident in Bromley on the same night was ... so was the fight in Orpington yesterday.. but nothing on this.....
RIP MOSES X
loveumoses, bromley says...
6:20pm Wed 4 Nov 09
I LOVE YOU
U WERE THE BEST DAD ENYONE COULD EVER HAVE. U WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR US AND TOLD US THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO AND WE LISTEND TO YOU. YOU HAVENT BEEN FORGOT ABOUT U R ALWAYS IN IM HEART AND ON MY MIND EVERY MINET EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY U WILL ALWAYS BE REMBERED AS A MAN WHO ALWAYS WAS LAUGHTING AND JOKING AROUND IM GONNA MISS U LOAD AND LOADS GOD TAKE THE BEST AND LEAVES THE REST SO NOW THAT PROVES YOU WERE THE BEST AND IS THE BEST LOVE YOU X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X XLOVE UR DAUGHTER SARAH X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
pumpkin123, orpington says...
6:29pm Wed 4 Nov 09
lariej, swanley says...
6:37pm Wed 4 Nov 09
Love to all your family and everyone is thinking of you xxx
I can only say what has already been said and justice will be done xxx
chipper09, dartford says...
11:03pm Thu 5 Nov 09
jen4curly, lewisham says...
1:10am Fri 6 Nov 09
reind,we was all so priviliaged to share parts of our life with you,you was a good man,and cannot believe what has happend to you and sarah,i will treasure my memores,and that smile i will never forget,thinking of you and all your family,god bless ,R.I.P.nanny lou.xxxxxxxxxxxxx
R
betty hills, swanley says...
8:22am Fri 6 Nov 09
My sincerest condolences to his family.
Atmydesk, Orpington says...
11:30am Fri 6 Nov 09
cleanupcray, st.pauls cray says...
6:11pm Fri 6 Nov 09
mcgrathy, oprington says...
6:58pm Fri 6 Nov 09
pumpkin123, orpington says...
9:00pm Fri 6 Nov 09
lariej, swanley says...
10:02pm Fri 6 Nov 09
If you have nothing nice to say you should not use this site.
Moses is no longer here and i dont think you should be putting comments like that on the site
There has been enough hurt and distress to this family already you have no respect.
cleanupcray, st.pauls cray says...
8:38am Sat 7 Nov 09
pumpkin123, orpington says...
10:36am Sat 7 Nov 09
cleanupcray, st.pauls cray says...
10:50am Sat 7 Nov 09
pumpkin123 wrote:Do you know the motive of this killing, pumpkin123? I'm not saying that taking the lives of people is right.
As have I 'clean up cray'... but why tar everybody with the same brush. Because you have been a victim in the past, does that mean it is acceptable for this man to be at the receiving end of this crime. One thinks not. What a childish, selfish, self-centred attitude!
I have tried to get on with those people but have been let down so many times I've given up with them. They are proud of themselves that they don't intergrate with normal society. Driving wrecklessley in uninsured cars, carrying firearms without a license, non tax-paying, making inoccent people's lives a misery.... I could go on. , Let them get on with their own lives and keep,out of ours.
chipper09, dartford says...
11:04am Sat 7 Nov 09
i dont think you understand what has
just happend a son husband and most of all a father has just been murderd
mossie may have been a nobody to you but he was a very well respected man. you should keep your apinunes to your self . put the boot on the other foot what would you do if some one was saying this about a very good freind of yours
have some respect
Discustedfamilymember, east sussex says...
12:37pm Sat 7 Nov 09
8:38am Sat 7 Nov 09
When you have been a victim of theft, vandalism, abuse and general anti social behaviour from travellers like I have, one tends to respect them in the way they respect me.
There is good and bad in all walks of life, Moses was a good man, and would help anyone, and he did! I am DISCUSTED with what you have written in your last two lines! May God forgive you!???? Love you always Moses, sister in law, Kelly.
mcgrathy, oprington says...
3:01pm Sat 7 Nov 09
pumpkin123, orpington says...
4:15pm Sat 7 Nov 09
Do you say this about all ethnics, backgrounds, colours or creeds... If so I suggest you put yourself on an isolated remote island and stay there so your little head can remain happy.
Am I a traveller - no. Do I know travellers - yes. Have I worked with traveller families - yes. Are they all the same - definately NOT.
Finally 'Clean up Cray' do you know about the motive for this murder?
One thinks not!!!!
loveumoses, bromley says...
6:39pm Sat 7 Nov 09
****
Hayley3132, Orpington says...
8:00pm Sat 7 Nov 09
paperpaper, Eltham says...
9:17am Mon 9 Nov 09
paperpaper, Eltham says...
9:23am Mon 9 Nov 09
maddan, kent says...
5:50pm Mon 9 Nov 09
A long term friend who I lost contact with a few years ago after moving away from the area. A true gentleman, allways had a smile. you will be sadly missed and not forgotten.
Can someone help please? I would like to pay my respects and would like to know when the funeral is?
Thank you in advance and thoughts go out to his family.
lariej, swanley says...
5:25pm Tue 10 Nov 09
R.I.P moses xx
paperpaper, Eltham says...
4:28pm Thu 12 Nov 09
willyboy, bexleyheath says...
10:41am Fri 13 Nov 09
jen4curly, lewisham says...
9:33pm Fri 13 Nov 09
glowworm5, Orpington says...
10:46pm Thu 26 Nov 09
The fact that Moses was a husband, dad and grandad and an innocent victim of a pointless attack which has wrecked the lives of his family is obviously irrelevant to you because your head is stuck so far up your backside with your own issues. Next time you think you are hard done by because you get 'abuse' from the local kids, think about Moses' family. A wife who has lost her husband, 2 children who have lost their dad and 2 baby boys who have lost their Grandad.
To be honest, with your attitude, I am not suprised you get verbally abused! I could think of a few choice words to say to you at the moment and no, I am not a Traveller!
RIP Mosey Xxx
cleanupcray, st.pauls cray says...
3:25pm Fri 27 Nov 09
glowworm5 wrote:Sir/Madam
Cleanupcray! your user name says it all really. I expect you are a one man vigilante who thinks they can set the world to rights by airing your bigotry comments on here! The fact that Moses was a husband, dad and grandad and an innocent victim of a pointless attack which has wrecked the lives of his family is obviously irrelevant to you because your head is stuck so far up your backside with your own issues. Next time you think you are hard done by because you get 'abuse' from the local kids, think about Moses' family. A wife who has lost her husband, 2 children who have lost their dad and 2 baby boys who have lost their Grandad. To be honest, with your attitude, I am not suprised you get verbally abused! I could think of a few choice words to say to you at the moment and no, I am not a Traveller! RIP Mosey Xxx
The fact that I and many others suffer abuse, theft, vandalism etc. from youths and also adults who really at their ages should know better has nothing to do with the death of this family man. It is down to people of today not showing respect. Something that should be handed down from generation to generation. Children are not taught morals now, they are taught what their rights are. Now if you do not want me to contribute to this subject, especially as it is now going off into a tangent, I suggest you don't drag me into it again. Thank you.
willyboy, bexleyheath says...
6:14pm Sat 28 Nov 09
to focus on the facts, you are showing your true feelings towards travellers and if you was talking about any other minority you would no doubt be under arrest?
The scene inside the house
Tributes left at the scene
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pumpkin123, orpington says...
2:35pm Mon 2 Nov 09
Rip Mosey..
Thoughts and prayers are with Sarah, Mosey boy and Sarah girl, along with the rest of the family.