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VIDEO - BECKENHAM: Youth critical after police chase
11:20am Thursday 12th February 2009
A 21-YEAR-OLD man, thought to be from Eltham, is still critically ill after a high speed police chase ended in a crash in Beckenham.
The driver was being pursued by officers in an unmarked police car after he had failed to stop for them in the Lewisham part of Copers Cope Road.
He continued down the road and into The Avenue where his car collided with six parked vehicles at around 1.20am.
Police confirmed the man was alive but in a critical condtion after News Shopper contacted them at 5.15pm today (February 12).
One of the parked vehicles was hit so hard that the force of the collision caused it to push another one on to the pavement and into a brick wall which collapsed.
Firefighters spent around 40 minutes cutting the man out before he was taken to Lewisham Hospital.
He was unconscious and said to be suffering from serious head injuries.
Nearby resident Adam Walsh watched the incident from his bedroom window.
He said: "I was awoken at 1:30am by this god-almighty crash of screaming tyres, tearing metal and shattering glass.
"The noise was so loud and it made me jump and get out of bed and rush to the window unsure of what I would find but sure nonetheless that something serious had happened.
"Strewn across the street in front of my place were four absolutely wrecked cars.
"Ten seconds after I was confronted with this view five police cars screamed round the corner and screeched to a halt all sirens blazing.
"So obviously the car was being chased and he must have come round the corner too fast and crashed into one car and bounced over and smashed another on the other side and came to rest in the middle of the road.
"He was trapped inside and I was unsure as to whether he was dead.
"Cops were all over the place and then ambulances and a fire engine showed up with massive lights to assist the rescuers."
The shop assistant added: "Crowds gathered, the street was shut and the blue flashing lights illuminated my room for the next few hours.
"I can only presume the driver was alive when they took him away as they put on a neck brace and he was carted off on a stretcher."
Anthony Wood, whose flat looks over the site of the crash, was also woken in the early hours to the sound of crashing cars.
The 51-year-old said: "There were people at the scene until 8am - a few police officers directing traffic.
"People have woken up this morning to see their cars have been whacked.
"The speed he must have been driving to hit the cars like that.
"If it had happened early in the evening or in the morning when more people are about, who knows how it would have been like."
The incident is being investigated by the Met police's collision investigation unit based at Catford.
This investigation is being overseen by the Met police's directorate of professional standards, which is routine in this kind of incident.
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somebodystolemyusername, London says...
8:53am Thu 12 Feb 09
MB, local says...
9:32am Thu 12 Feb 09
Lee18, Sydenham says...
9:50am Thu 12 Feb 09
Brook, Deptford says...
10:12am Thu 12 Feb 09
Locked and Loaded, says...
11:27am Thu 12 Feb 09
Same old same old every few weeks.
davidfgj, nowhere says...
11:44am Thu 12 Feb 09
Fred12345, says...
12:08pm Thu 12 Feb 09
freear, blackheath says...
12:49pm Thu 12 Feb 09
porkpie, SE London says...
12:59pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Lee18 wrote:If the car is nicked what has the scum got to lose. It is not his car he is smashing up. Most of the time this type of person only have a few brain cells. They are the ones the rest of us want out of the gene pool. It would be nice if he had to pay for the healthcare , damage to the street, peoples property & emergency vehicles that had to turn up..........The stupid man ran of talent.......Not that he had much in the first place !
Why do people run from the police, it is obvious that it always ends up like this have people not realised that yet.
Earthling, Earth says...
1:03pm Thu 12 Feb 09
emmabr3, Beckenham says...
1:53pm Thu 12 Feb 09
No he wasn't.
What if he was my father, brother or son? - I'd want him to make a full recovery and then face the consequences of his actions. No he doesn't deserve to be seriously ill in hospital and I hope for his family's sake he makes a full recovery. Then I hope he's arrested and punished - because that is what he deserves.
Now a question for you - what if someone (your brother, son, father?)had been crossing the road when he was speeding through Beckenham (a residential part of Beckenham at that)? Okay, I know it was 1am, but people could still have been about. Would you still have been so concerned for him, telling people to be more considerate? I very much doubt it.
I'm sorry he's seriously ill in hospital, but that doesn't excuse his reckless actions.
I'll probably get shot down for this message when the comments section becomes a condolence board later on (which it no doubt will), but never mind.
I'd also be interested to know why he was so intent on doing a bunk from the police.......
It's Me again !, says...
1:58pm Thu 12 Feb 09
So until we know the facts why not keep your nasty comments to youselves
It's Me again !, says...
2:01pm Thu 12 Feb 09
What kind of sick person gets their phone out,films it and then puts it on youtube !!
MACKAY1985, MOTTINGHAM says...
2:44pm Thu 12 Feb 09
porkpie wrote:u sad sad sad man all them things can be replaced but a person cant so go do one i bet ur a sad old man all on your own get a bloody life a stop having ur say about other peoples
Lee18 wrote:If the car is nicked what has the scum got to lose. It is not his car he is smashing up. Most of the time this type of person only have a few brain cells. They are the ones the rest of us want out of the gene pool. It would be nice if he had to pay for the healthcare , damage to the street, peoples property & emergency vehicles that had to turn up..........The stupid man ran of talent.......Not that he had much in the first place !
Why do people run from the police, it is obvious that it always ends up like this have people not realised that yet.
there mum, lewisham says...
2:45pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Jon Cheetham, says...
2:47pm Thu 12 Feb 09
there mum, lewisham says...
3:01pm Thu 12 Feb 09
porkpie, SE London says...
3:01pm Thu 12 Feb 09
MACKAY1985 wrote:Freedom of speech ! If you don't like don't read it. Simple really.
porkpie wrote:u sad sad sad man all them things can be replaced but a person cant so go do one i bet ur a sad old man all on your own get a bloody life a stop having ur say about other peoplesLee18 wrote: Why do people run from the police, it is obvious that it always ends up like this have people not realised that yet.If the car is nicked what has the scum got to lose. It is not his car he is smashing up. Most of the time this type of person only have a few brain cells. They are the ones the rest of us want out of the gene pool. It would be nice if he had to pay for the healthcare , damage to the street, peoples property & emergency vehicles that had to turn up..........The stupid man ran of talent.......Not that he had much in the first place !
i-e hampz, st marys cray says...
3:09pm Thu 12 Feb 09
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Jon Cheetham, News Shopper deputy web manager says...
3:23pm Thu 12 Feb 09
there mum, lewisham says...
3:31pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Jon Cheetham wrote:oh jon seeing you work for the shopper then may be you could up date your facts , and then have a bit more repect for friends and family like you say you cant be everywere at all times but seeing its office hours you should have facts by now dont you think
There mum, I am thanking Adam for his video because it is a valuable piece of video reporting by a News Shopper reader. Our reporters can't be everywhere at all times, so when a quick thinking member of the community responds to an event by turning on a video camera, taking a photo, writing an email or just picking up the phone to the News Shopper, it means we can provide our audience with better, quicker and more accurate coverage of the news in our area. This is not a comment on the events, just an attempt to report them.
lilly29, london says...
3:55pm Thu 12 Feb 09
emily..x, says...
4:09pm Thu 12 Feb 09
You will be sadly missed by so many people. Me and Charlie was only with u last night an hour before it happened. It is so sad, you was such a laugh and soo many people loved you. Rest in Peace Jack loads of love hugs and kisses ****
max never the min, dartford says...
4:16pm Thu 12 Feb 09
All I can say is 'another one bites the dust! yee ha'
freetospeak, Gravesend says...
4:24pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Jon' O, Beckenham Kent says...
4:26pm Thu 12 Feb 09
How do you even know if Jack died?
What was his full name?
steffy, mottingham says...
4:27pm Thu 12 Feb 09
mottingham90, Mottingham says...
4:28pm Thu 12 Feb 09
porkpie, SE London says...
4:32pm Thu 12 Feb 09
mottingham90 wrote:If your a close mate, can you answer the question that everyone wants to know..... Why did he run ?
i have also just made an account so that i can comment.. the boy in this crash was one of my closest mates. for all the inconsiderate priks that only care about there cars, my friend lost there life. ur all sitting round ur computers naking ur comments in ur sad pathetic lifes, yea ur got freedom of speach but keep ur nasty spiteful comments to urself for the sake off his family!!!!
Also if it was a member of my family I wouldn't be on the web reading about, I would have more important things to be doing.
freetospeak, Gravesend says...
4:38pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Gypo, says...
4:39pm Thu 12 Feb 09
porkpie, SE London says...
4:41pm Thu 12 Feb 09
MACKAY1985 wrote:Selfish is running from the police & killing your self, leaving your mates & family to pick up the pieces of the destruction that you have left in your aftermath.
porkpie wrote:OH YEAH IM SURE IT IS U NOB I'D LIKE TO SEE IF IT HAPPENED TO U HOW U WOULD FEEL AS A PARENT......... BUT I GUESS UR ONE OF THEM PEOPLE SELF CENTRED SELFISH AND WEN ITS UR TIME TO I SURE NO ONE WILL GIVE A **** U SAD LOSER OH THIS MY FREEDOM OF SPEECHMACKAY1985 wrote:Freedom of speech ! If you don't like don't read it. Simple really.porkpie wrote:u sad sad sad man all them things can be replaced but a person cant so go do one i bet ur a sad old man all on your own get a bloody life a stop having ur say about other peoplesLee18 wrote: Why do people run from the police, it is obvious that it always ends up like this have people not realised that yet.If the car is nicked what has the scum got to lose. It is not his car he is smashing up. Most of the time this type of person only have a few brain cells. They are the ones the rest of us want out of the gene pool. It would be nice if he had to pay for the healthcare , damage to the street, peoples property & emergency vehicles that had to turn up..........The stupid man ran of talent.......Not that he had much in the first place !
You make a lot of assumption & if calling people names is how you deal with things you need to grow up. I have never needed to run from the police have you?
jca111, Bromley says...
4:46pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Why this guy ran, we can only speculate? Even if he did steal a car or something similar, he did not deserve to die. BUT he, and unfortunately his friends and family, have to accept the consequences of his actions, and if it is the case that he was up to no good, they cannot come on here with their defence of "he was so lovely" etc. Cars kill, both drivers and by-standers, and this could have been a whole lot worse if there was a group of people on the road for example.
The other side is, people should not make stupid comments about this guy being scum etc. Have some respect for the family as this is going to be a very very hard time for them, whatever the circumstances. If you were face to face with them, would you be slagging this guy off. I doubt most of you would have enough balls to do it. The anonymity of the net makes people say things they would not in real life.
So both sides, please decorum. The police are not pigs etc. and please don't upset the family of this lad.
there mum, lewisham says...
4:48pm Thu 12 Feb 09
max never the min, dartford says...
4:55pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Jodie :-(, at work says...
4:55pm Thu 12 Feb 09
I can't believe how low some of the people are that use this site and the sick comments that they come out with and how they seem to take pleasure in reading these sort of stories and making nasty comments about the dead, calling them scum... Well let me tell you, YOUR the scum bags - The lowest of the low!!!
News shopper - I'm appalled that you think it is ok to upload a video of Jack being cut from the car. It's disgusting! You also have no respect for this poor boy, his family or friends.
jaderulton362, sidcup says...
5:01pm Thu 12 Feb 09
RIP Jack will think of all the good memories! Your family and friends are gunna miss you dearley
Love ya
Jade and everyone who knows Jack especially his friends in MOTTINGHAM
LOVE YA JACK
max never the min, dartford says...
5:05pm Thu 12 Feb 09
eltham, eltham says...
5:06pm Thu 12 Feb 09
rich27 wrote:you are really that shallow to think a young 21 year old boy deserves to die, his mother deserves the heartbreak of burying her baby boy? i cant believe the police have killed yet another young boy, i thought they were spposed 2 stop chasing when it got too dangerous? jack ul be missed by every1 babe, yes ya cheeky lairy ways. r-i-p babe just cant believe ya gone. x
Serves him right im afraid.
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
5:16pm Thu 12 Feb 09
It doesn't help to make a martyr of Jack. He was silly and he has paid the price for his stupidity.
s., mottingham says...
5:28pm Thu 12 Feb 09
im not saying for one minute that any of the boys involved in these accidents were angels because we all know full well that they weren't, but what you people fail to remember is that one day these boys families will look on here and be left with not only the devestating fact that they have lost their son or brother, but they will now be left with the comments on this page about how their son was "scum".
i think its about time that you all kept your heartless opinions to yourself!
msax the min, your comment was totally inappropriate and nasty!!
rest in peace, always in our hearts xxx
mottingham90, Mottingham says...
5:39pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Lottie101, Mottingham says...
6:05pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Jack you will be sadly missed by all of your friends mate. RIP. I know that god's angels will take care of you now.
Love Charlotte Smith ****
eltham, eltham says...
6:10pm Thu 12 Feb 09
mottinghamgirl.x, mottingham says...
6:21pm Thu 12 Feb 09
all you perfetic idiots writing horrible comments you probebrly dont even no him!!
R.I.P JACK THINKING OF YOU MATE (F)
mottingham90, Mottingham says...
6:27pm Thu 12 Feb 09
charranger, hove says...
6:38pm Thu 12 Feb 09
R.I.P JACK, you will be dearly missed. My thoughts are with everyone at this extremely difficult time xxx
veemott, mottingham says...
6:50pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Im very upset by his passin as he was genuinley a lovely guy, i've known him since he was 5 years old, he did come from a really nice family and im sure his mum and sister n rest of family will be devestated by his death. I dont know why he never stopped when he was bein chased but he must have been very scared. try and put ureself in his shoes and and imagine how terrified he must have been!
im goin to miss u Jack,
god bless. xx
joel1, Grove Park says...
6:50pm Thu 12 Feb 09
ChavHater1, says...
6:59pm Thu 12 Feb 09
MACKAY1985, MOTTINGHAM says...
7:03pm Thu 12 Feb 09
.............
MACKAY1985, MOTTINGHAM says...
7:13pm Thu 12 Feb 09
ChavHater1 wrote:this is of course a grass talking / people can change u divvvvvvvv s that chav for no one want to hear ur two bob bit now go do one with the rest of the mugs
Oh give me a break you lot defending him. The majority of you don't even know him and you think you can defend someone who's actions you have no idea of? Stupid. For those of you who do know him, stop saying he was a lovely lad 'who'd do anything for anyone' Lovely lads don't nick cars, lovely lads don't get chased by the police, lovely lads don't drive stolen cars at ridiculous speeds through built up areas. Lovely lads think of others before doing stupid things - he quite blatantly didn't. Yes it's heartbreaking for his family but he should have thought about possible consequences to his - and what could have easily been other families before embarking on his little law breaking trip shouldn't he? Grow the hell up people for gods sake.
charranger, hove says...
7:15pm Thu 12 Feb 09
mottinghamgirl.x, mottingham says...
7:30pm Thu 12 Feb 09
R.I.P JACK YOU WILL BE MISEDD X
L.y, motttingham says...
7:30pm Thu 12 Feb 09
BudgieJane, Beckenham says...
7:53pm Thu 12 Feb 09
bligeyoreilly, says...
7:58pm Thu 12 Feb 09
This sentence particularly disturbs me
"One of the parked vehicles was hit so hard that the force of the collision caused it to push another one on to the pavement and into a brick wall which collapsed."
What if someone was innocently walking on the pavement and then got hit and also killed? What about all those cars that got hit? People will have to pay extra insurance premiums now.
I read about these types of accidents too much to have any sympathy - take responsibility for your actions and stop commiting crimes and you wont die or hurt anyone else.
ChavHater1, says...
8:00pm Thu 12 Feb 09
JoJo2, Blackfen says...
8:09pm Thu 12 Feb 09
To feel the need to remark with all those insults re Jack, friends & family, without Knowing them or anything in totally beyond me. Implying a poor education, being scum, spelling etc is just to personal & inappropriate. It leaves me feeling that you guys just come on here purposely to antagonise & upset people. This is indeed concerning.
It is nice to see that, like myself, some people have the maturity & intelligence to view it from both sides. Yes, maybe it is the price you pay, getting into a chase (presuming the facts on here are correct)... Yes, It could have involved other innocent by-standers & not just innocent peoples' property. I do feel for all of you. However, it is very sad that A life has been lost & family & friends are left suffering. The background, education of these people should not come into it. I would be more ashamed of your mentality if you were in my family to be honest...Everyone has feelings.
Jack...RIP.
God Bless to all friends & Family xx
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
8:23pm Thu 12 Feb 09
chislehurst, chislehurst says...
8:49pm Thu 12 Feb 09
ChavHater1 wrote:The only person who is showing themselves up on here is you. I cant help but feel that you would be better off getting a life rather than coming on here to add to people's pain and anger. And as for people needing a few English lessons, I'm not sure if you live in the real world but in the world that we live in, people use the Internet 24/7 therefore there are lots of abbreviations etc used, it's not spelling mistakes, regardless, people's bad grammar and spelling mistakes are not really the issue here. You clearly think that you are better than everyone else, why is that? because you spend your sad little life hounding grieving people? Your behaviour is frankly disgusting and I really do suggest that you seek some professional help. I'm sure your friends and family would be really proud to know that this is how you spend your days. I am VERY sure that you would not dare to say any of your comments to the faces of anyone you have insulted or upset today, it is very easy to hide behind a pseudonym on a computer. I'm sure that everyone will agree that you are a disgrace and I pray that you never have to deal with such a tragic loss. I'm a BIG believer in karma, what goes around comes around.
lolol @ all of the reactionary comments. Get off the bandwagon & stop pretending he meant something to you. By the way, I can't help but feel a lot of you would be better off having extra English lessons and reading the dictionary for a couple of hours a day rather than showing yourselves up on here.
MACKAY1985, MOTTINGHAM says...
8:53pm Thu 12 Feb 09
ChavHater1 wrote:wat ever grass
lolol @ all of the reactionary comments. Get off the bandwagon & stop pretending he meant something to you. By the way, I can't help but feel a lot of you would be better off having extra English lessons and reading the dictionary for a couple of hours a day rather than showing yourselves up on here.
JoJo2, Blackfen says...
8:53pm Thu 12 Feb 09
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
9:04pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Let's Agree To Differ, says...
9:05pm Thu 12 Feb 09
who do u think u are chavhater? its none of your big nosed business, so butt the hell out of it. This is now a site for people who knew Jack and want to leave condolence messages, not a free for all Oh dear not again.
I refer you to my previous comment on the St Mary's Cray car story.
I should probably just save it ready to post on the next oh too familiar scenario as I am sure the friends do just that.
How does it go?
Lovely lad, blah blah! Cars can be replaced blah, blah! Aint you never made a mistake, blah,blah! Fink of his family, blah, blah! You losers keep nasty comments to yourselves blah, blah! You didn't know him, blah, blah! RIP blah, blah! Get a life blah, blah! Incomprehensible text speak, blah, blah!
As for it being a condolence site, we've had this debate before too. This is the 'NEWS' section and is open to anyone to leave their opinion. If you are offended by people's opinion maybe you should all reconsider the company you keep. You chose your friends after all!
freear, blackheath says...
9:06pm Thu 12 Feb 09
emmabr3 wrote:Have u got kids u silly sad woman!! u think ur car is worth more than jack!!
Freear, blackheath: He was a "thoughtful man" was he? Was he being thoughtful when he sped away from police? Was he being thoughtful when he smashed up half of the cars on my road? No he wasn't. What if he was my father, brother or son? - I'd want him to make a full recovery and then face the consequences of his actions. No he doesn't deserve to be seriously ill in hospital and I hope for his family's sake he makes a full recovery. Then I hope he's arrested and punished - because that is what he deserves. Now a question for you - what if someone (your brother, son, father?)had been crossing the road when he was speeding through Beckenham (a residential part of Beckenham at that)? Okay, I know it was 1am, but people could still have been about. Would you still have been so concerned for him, telling people to be more considerate? I very much doubt it. I'm sorry he's seriously ill in hospital, but that doesn't excuse his reckless actions. I'll probably get shot down for this message when the comments section becomes a condolence board later on (which it no doubt will), but never mind. I'd also be interested to know why he was so intent on doing a bunk from the police.......
well he cant make a full recovery cause he died!!
Now does that feel worth losing ur car over??
Also about being punished, u are so shallow he is dead is that not enough? leave the poor man to rest in peace!!
There are no ifs, or buts he hurt himself and no one else now **** off and grieve for ur car u sad sad women......
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
9:22pm Thu 12 Feb 09
Unfortunately, there will be some people, who maybe bought their car last year at full price and now that it has been wrecked, will only recieve half what they actually still owe on it. If it wasn't for Jack (angel that he no doubt was) and others like him there would be no need for insurance premiums to keep rising. Please understand that there are wider issues to understand and, although you may be experiencing some grief, the rest of the News Shopper population is angry that yet again a young deliquent has caused mayhem on our streets.
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
9:25pm Thu 12 Feb 09
recieve = receive
deliquent = delinquent
freear, blackheath says...
9:43pm Thu 12 Feb 09
s., mottingham says...
9:45pm Thu 12 Feb 09
your very very sad people, if your idea of getting your kicks is sitting on a newsshopper website making extremely nasty comments when there is simply no need.
like others have said i'm 100% sure that NONE of you would even dare saying this to any of his family or friends!?
grow up and get real!
r.i.p jack!
xx
freear, blackheath says...
9:47pm Thu 12 Feb 09
s., mottingham says...
9:50pm Thu 12 Feb 09
i know for a fact none of this would be said to jacks fanily!
this is upsetting everyone who knew and loved jack!
grow up people and get real! this is someones life we are talking about, not a piece of metal!!
r.i.p jack! xx
emmabr3, Beckenham says...
9:58pm Thu 12 Feb 09
freear wrote:1. I don't have kids, I'm 25. I do not wish to bring children into the world whilst its in its current state.
emmabr3 wrote: Freear, blackheath: He was a "thoughtful man" was he? Was he being thoughtful when he sped away from police? Was he being thoughtful when he smashed up half of the cars on my road? No he wasn't. What if he was my father, brother or son? - I'd want him to make a full recovery and then face the consequences of his actions. No he doesn't deserve to be seriously ill in hospital and I hope for his family's sake he makes a full recovery. Then I hope he's arrested and punished - because that is what he deserves. Now a question for you - what if someone (your brother, son, father?)had been crossing the road when he was speeding through Beckenham (a residential part of Beckenham at that)? Okay, I know it was 1am, but people could still have been about. Would you still have been so concerned for him, telling people to be more considerate? I very much doubt it. I'm sorry he's seriously ill in hospital, but that doesn't excuse his reckless actions. I'll probably get shot down for this message when the comments section becomes a condolence board later on (which it no doubt will), but never mind. I'd also be interested to know why he was so intent on doing a bunk from the police.......Have u got kids u silly sad woman!! u think ur car is worth more than jack!! well he cant make a full recovery cause he died!! Now does that feel worth losing ur car over?? Also about being punished, u are so shallow he is dead is that not enough? leave the poor man to rest in peace!! There are no ifs, or buts he hurt himself and no one else now **** off and grieve for ur car u sad sad women......
2. I'm not a "silly woman". I'm a trainee solicitor who day in and day out has to deal with anti-social behaviour and the victims thereof. I admit I may be "sad" but hey, thats life..........
3. I didn't say anything about my car, I said cars on my road (and no, I'm not saying I own the road....). I don't own a car. I was making general comments about those people who had their cars wrecked. In my opinion they are entitled to be angry.
4. I am not shallow. When I wrote my post the article still said he was critically ill. It did not say he had died. If you read my post I said I hoped he made a full recovery. I am very sorry to learn that he has died - I don't think he derserved to.
5. Please do not tell me to "**** off" I am entitled to my opinion, just like you are. I was simply stating that in fact, whilst people are grieving there are people out there who have been victims of such behaviour. I personally have lost someone I loved very much. His car was crashed into by someone who was driving recklessly. He was 21 years old as well. He died because someone drove at recklessly, at speed without thought or care for anyone else. A year later I'm still angry that he killed my friend, so incidents like this do stir up a few emotions in me.
'Somebodystolemyuser
name' - Thank you for your comment. I too didn't think my post was offensive. I have not called anyone "scum" or "divvvvs". I was simply putting forward my opinion on the story. I personally thought my post was quite restrained in comparison to some (from both sides of the argument).
freear - I am entitled to my opinion - I can say what I think of this story, just like you felt you could write that I was shallow, sad etc. I'll leave this argument now as I do not feel it's right knowing that the guy has died.
freear, blackheath says...
10:06pm Thu 12 Feb 09
somebodystolemyusernJack was no angel but a nice bloke cos he was bein chased by the police dont make him a bad person, he didnt intend to smash them up or hurt did he and i'm not gonna let u blame him for how everyone else is, it aint his thought about the insurance premiums keep rising u dont know him you dont know if he has a record or not get some facts first.
ame wrote:
freear, I think you have chosen the wrong target in emmabr3. What this person said was not offensive. There are far more offensive comments made further down. Why is it assumed that all women automatically have children and therefore should understand why a child is more important than the possessions that somebody has worked all their life for. Unfortunately, there will be some people, who maybe bought their car last year at full price and now that it has been wrecked, will only recieve half what they actually still owe on it. If it wasn't for Jack (angel that he no doubt was) and others like him there would be no need for insurance premiums to keep rising. Please understand that there are wider issues to understand and, although you may be experiencing some grief, the rest of the News Shopper population is angry that yet again a young deliquent has caused mayhem on our streets.
Let's Agree To Differ, says...
10:13pm Thu 12 Feb 09
There are very few people in this world who haven't lost a loved one.
I have lost someone this week. A close friend who died whilst going about his 'lawful' business.
So as I am grieving I am allowed an opinion: you have given me permission to have my say. I thank you for that!
So here goes: When you all start respecting people and their property and stop thinking that it is OK to drive recklessly etc maybe we will stop having to read about young men killing themselves through their desire to show off, look big and 'have a laugh.' Just how many more of your friends will you have to bury before you realise that?
I am sorry that your friend has died but excusing the choices he made is not will not take away the fact that if he behaved differently he would still be alive and you would still have your mate. Be angry with him it is him that let you down unless of course you really think that the way he behaved is ok.
sophie8989, Chertsey says...
10:13pm Thu 12 Feb 09
shazza05, eltham says...
10:15pm Thu 12 Feb 09
R*I*P JACK xx
Let's Agree To Differ, says...
10:22pm Thu 12 Feb 09
I think that is technically threatening behaviour and another example of what good citizens you all are.
sim 1, essex says...
11:03pm Thu 12 Feb 09
LNN, Chislehurst says...
11:07pm Thu 12 Feb 09
For gods sake, let the man rest, nothing you say can change whats happend, whats done is done.
And to max never the min, no we're not all stupid and brainless in Mottingham, thankyou very much.
SE7, Charlton says...
11:18pm Thu 12 Feb 09
From all of us here in charlton that knew you jack, R.I.P you will be missed. Our thoughts are with all your family who we know are devastated at losing you so young. xxxxxx
SE7, Charlton says...
11:18pm Thu 12 Feb 09
From all of us here in charlton that knew you jack, R.I.P you will be missed. Our thoughts are with all your family who we know are devastated at losing you so young. xxxxxx
LNN, Chislehurst says...
11:31pm Thu 12 Feb 09
SE7 wrote:Well said SE7.
Amazing that people can be so brutal at such a sad time, yes he may have stole a car, yes he may of hurt someone else during this, but who knows? you guys certainly dont! What we all do know is that a young man of 21, someone that I have known since he was only a young boy and full of life, has died. From all of us here in charlton that knew you jack, R.I.P you will be missed. Our thoughts are with all your family who we know are devastated at losing you so young. xxxxxx
Gypo, says...
11:59pm Thu 12 Feb 09
sim 1 wrote:Haa the chavs have now found religion. Heaven are you sure you plank.
am the biggest scum bag on here am i u r such a mugggggg and willnot live a long life with all that hate in u will u yr so sad hope u get yr come uppers soon and lets face it jacks in a better place then u right witch is heaven u must b living in hell 2 hav yr type of mind set i no where yr goin lol i hope u catch a virus u and yr computer
jo-b, mottingham says...
7:02am Fri 13 Feb 09
Roman, Chislehurst says...
7:33am Fri 13 Feb 09
sh...when you are dead you are dead for a very long time, and guess what...you cant take those stupid possessions some of you seem to think are more important than a human life, with you. Life is a truly special thing, and as the saying goes it is wasted on the young. This lad made the mistake of thinking he could out run the law and paid the ultimate price.
What if he had ran down your grandad crossing the road blah blah come the pathetic excuses of those trying to justify there sick sad comments maybe if it had been at a busier time he would have been stopped ages before the accident due to traffic blah blah blah, you can say anything with a what if in front of it, so just stick to the facts, and they are he was the only one injured and lost his life. So big and brave cussing down his friends and family, some before the guy had even had a chance of recovery or news of his death had broken they have such little respect. You are the ones that are scum, you are filth, the lowest of the low, life is wasted on such common rubbish. So big and brave hiding behind your pc screen, being nasty from the saftey of your home. Why ? Because as is plain for all the decent folk posting here to see, be you man women or beast (the latter fitting most here) you must have a lot of trouble staying upright...just how do you manage it ? what with being spinless cowards ! It is wrong to wish a fellow human being suffering. But I do hope you lot get what you deserve ! Again I say it, yes you are entitled to your opinion, but there is a time and a place for it, and you know tis isnt the time or the place, but you wouldnt, couldnt do it in public, you know someone would have your head off for being so out of order, so like the big bad brave little children you are, you spout your rubbish and bile here in a bid to upset some poor soul who has just lost a friend or relative. Go take a good look at yourself in the mirror, if you have a tadge of humanity in you , well I doubt any of you have....but if by some small miracle you do...then you will be red faced with shame !
A car/lampost/brickwal
l etc are all inanimate objects, a person is alive, flesh and blood, when it is dead it can not be replaced like materials items. Just try and get that in your thick skulls for once eh. You all know you are wrong, the first few posts here prove that with comments like, no doubt his friends will be here saying he helped grannies across the road blah blah blah.DID YOU KNOW THE MAN ? No then who the hell are you to decide what he is or isnt. If he was a wife beating agressive moron then people wouldnt be here saying what a nice person he was would they eh ??? not bloody rocket science is it !
But then of course you are all so perfect arnt you ! never having broken the law, not so much as spoken on your mobile phone whilst driving, never broke the speed limit. or kept something you found, which is stealing by finding, and all are against the law. that makes you as much a criminal as a murderer. A crime is a crime a sin a sin, you can not water it down to suit yourself !
To the Newsshopper I make a request. Could you please update your message boards so we can have an ignore feature so we do not have to read comments made by such sick individuals.
eddiemeltham, eltham says...
7:53am Fri 13 Feb 09
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
8:28am Fri 13 Feb 09
What I find very sad about this whole story, and similar recent ones, is that it is all so avoidable.
1. There is no need for anyone to steal a car.
2. If you are being chased by the Police the most sensible thing you can do is stop for them to find out what they want. They are not going to give up and go away and leave you alone. Once they decide they are pursuing you they will get you. They have resources at their diposal that give them the upper hand in situations like this.
3. I was in bed asleep when this accident took place, like most law abiding citizens. There was a reason that guy was where he was at this time and I'm sure we won't be surprised when we do find out the truth.
4. What is the worst that would have happened if he had stopped for the police? He may have been arrested and locked up for the night...wouldn't that have been preferable?
Don't all you people, who loved him so much, understand that this could have been prevented so easily.
Did you know what he was up to?
Is there something that you could have done or said that would have made him not go out that night?
Is it ok if he stole a car because thats what all young men do..."boys will be boys" and all that.
If I knew that any friend or relative of mine was likely to break the law I would try my hardest to persuade them not to. I even tell my sister off if I think she may have used her mobile in her car. We all have a responsibilty to make this world a decent place to live and if we can't at least try and help others see the error of their ways then we are contributing to the shambolic society that we are currently living in.
Enigma, Orpington says...
8:32am Fri 13 Feb 09
Its freedom of speech. The PC world on this occasion turns to the favour of the people who work hard and don't sponge off the state, but have to protect everything they own due to people like this 'lovely lad', Fortunately, we can voice our opinions and thank you News Shopper for the chance to.
Sad I agree that this lad has lost his life, but he made a choice and at 21 - I would say he was able to make that choice himself, however had he stopped took what was coming to him (probably a slapped wrist and a fine!) then he would still be live and kicking and talking to his friends and planning his next 'outing'.
I agree he was not a wife beating moron or a paedophile. However he still is committing a crime which I and the majority of the people who are aged above 30 (Probably 25) are fed up of. I agree with your comments that we are not all perfect, however I and probably 95% of the NewsShopper Community would not commit a crime that required intent to hurt/deprive others such as stealing a car, stabbing someone etc etc.
Yes Cars, walls etc are inanimate objects, however they still belong to someone and will still become a cost to society for repairs through the increase in premium for car insurance to pay for accidents such as these and also the raise in Taxes for the use of the services who acted so swiftly for this young lad.
I am sure just like the other 2, to their friends,they will be just a blur in a years time, forgotten people. Different for the families of course and I feel for them.
In 10 years time, the kids of today will be the Enigma and 'others' of tomorrow and will be seeing things differntly when they are hard working people who earn their crust to be able to buy their desired items and then to see them taken by someone else who is not prepared to earn it themselves.
Kayla21, Eltham says...
9:55am Fri 13 Feb 09
Jack I'll always remember you as cheeky and funny, shame we haven't spoken in ages as you was a lovely boy.
Thinking of you and your family at this sad sad time. RIP babes xx
rich27, Lewisham says...
9:55am Fri 13 Feb 09
eltham wrote:Eltham,
rich27 wrote: Serves him right im afraid.you are really that shallow to think a young 21 year old boy deserves to die, his mother deserves the heartbreak of burying her baby boy? i cant believe the police have killed yet another young boy, i thought they were spposed 2 stop chasing when it got too dangerous? jack ul be missed by every1 babe, yes ya cheeky lairy ways. r-i-p babe just cant believe ya gone. x
At the time of writing that comment I did not know that he was dead and im sorry to hear that but it is his own fault and ive got no sympathy.
You say that the Police have killed another young boy/man, they didnt kill him, he killed himself by being a prat, stealing a car and racing it through the streets thinking that he can get away from the Police. He has paid the ultimate price for being a stupid little boy!!!
Kayla21, Eltham says...
10:36am Fri 13 Feb 09
At the time of writing that comment I did not know that he was dead and im sorry to hear that but it is his own fault and ive got no sympathy.
You say that the Police have killed another young boy/man, they didnt kill him, he killed himself by being a prat, stealing a car and racing it through the streets thinking that he can get away from the Police. He has paid the ultimate price for being a stupid little boy!!!
Eltham - if you read the article properly you would see the car was unmaked ie didn't have any seriens?? Get your facts straight before you comment you idoit.
It's Me again !, says...
11:37am Fri 13 Feb 09
I FEEL YOU SHOULD NOW REMOVE THE VIDEO AS YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE YOUNG MAN HAS DIED.
I FEEL IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO LEAVE IT ON HERE!
THIS IS NOT TV, THIS IS REAL LIFE AND THAT IS SOMEBODIES CHILD.
JD2009, Bexley says...
11:42am Fri 13 Feb 09
Is it right to steal a car and drive at high speed? Answer = No.
Do those who choose not to follow the law have to suffer any conseqiences of their wrong doing? Answer = Yes.
Do those people who suffer the consequences of their wrong doing affect the lives of those close to them? Answer = Yes
Summary: There is not justification for anyone to break the law and if they do all the upset caused is down to them.
ronan123, mottingham says...
11:55am Fri 13 Feb 09
nicevans, charlton says...
12:00pm Fri 13 Feb 09
JoJo2, Blackfen says...
12:09pm Fri 13 Feb 09
max never the min wrote:With the above comment as an example, guys please STOP the name calling & insults. It makes you look like the unintelligent ones!You are obviously quite angry inside about something or like to antagonise, i dont know. But these people are NOT morons, they just happen to know him & are sad about his loss. If someone you know does something wrong, it does not stop you from seeing the good in them or loving them. Or more to the point, feel you want to defend them when the comments are so bad. Especailly when they have died!! I really think this should stop now as it is becoming abusive & an excuse for some very angry & bitter people to vent some deeper issues !!
Listen, to all you morons supporting the actions of this Angel called Jack go and do something constructive. He's dead, it's his own fault, he was a thief, an idiot and paid with his life. Tough sh t. One less car thief is a good thing!!!!
Gypo, says...
12:35pm Fri 13 Feb 09
wood09, dagenham says...
12:36pm Fri 13 Feb 09
JoJo2 wrote:i totally agree wiv u JoJo!! Max from Dartford i really dont understand who you think you are 2 say such nasty stuff bout someone u dont even no...Jack woz a lovely boy an he werent no angel but that dont make someone a bad person everyone at one point in there life makes mistakes an im sure ur life aint so perfect...u dont no nothing bout Jack so dont talk like u no who is woz an about coz u dnt have a clue!!! Id love 2 see u try an say these nasty manipultive words 2 his friends an family 2 there face but i guess u wudnt have the guts if u came face 2 face wiv them...i suggest u keep urself 2 urself b4 makin judgements bout someone u dont even no...No matter wot his done wrong his family are still heartbroken wiv wots happened so have some respect an keep ur heartless pathetic opinions 2 yourself.....
max never the min wrote: Listen, to all you morons supporting the actions of this Angel called Jack go and do something constructive. He's dead, it's his own fault, he was a thief, an idiot and paid with his life. Tough sh t. One less car thief is a good thing!!!!With the above comment as an example, guys please STOP the name calling & insults. It makes you look like the unintelligent ones!You are obviously quite angry inside about something or like to antagonise, i dont know. But these people are NOT morons, they just happen to know him & are sad about his loss. If someone you know does something wrong, it does not stop you from seeing the good in them or loving them. Or more to the point, feel you want to defend them when the comments are so bad. Especailly when they have died!! I really think this should stop now as it is becoming abusive & an excuse for some very angry & bitter people to vent some deeper issues !!
R.I.P Jack Miss u an love you always mate x
It's Me again !, says...
12:52pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Gypo wrote:Do You have to be so rude ?
It's Me again !, who do you think you are ?? Who voted you censor for the Newsshopper. I hope they enlarge the vidio and show it around the schools in the SE, perhaps it would help put a stop to this car thieving/ joy riding nonsense. If it saved one young life it would be worth it. Maybe some good from this loss of one young life.
Anyway, If the parents of Jack gave permission then that would be a good idea.
However, at this moment in time I do not feel it is right to have this video on an open website...it's no better than a snuff video!
Lols, Beckenham says...
1:11pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Wether he 'desreved' his untimley death or not- does not matter he is dead now he paid the ultimate price. But what does matter is that a family have been devasted by this - they did not deserve it. I just hope they don't have to see what has been written here.
rich27, Lewisham says...
1:43pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Kayla21 wrote:An unmarked car means that it does not have a blue light on the roof and the stripes down the side of the car. It does have a siren and blue lights in the grill and sometimes on the side of the bumper. When the Police start the blue lights they flash in the grill, the headlights flash, the siren starts and there is sometimes a police sign in the back window. The whole point of an unmarked car is for it to blend in and not be noticed.
Eltham, At the time of writing that comment I did not know that he was dead and im sorry to hear that but it is his own fault and ive got no sympathy. You say that the Police have killed another young boy/man, they didnt kill him, he killed himself by being a prat, stealing a car and racing it through the streets thinking that he can get away from the Police. He has paid the ultimate price for being a stupid little boy!!! Eltham - if you read the article properly you would see the car was unmaked ie didn't have any seriens?? Get your facts straight before you comment you idoit.
Jon Cheetham, News Shopper deputy web manager says...
2:12pm Fri 13 Feb 09
First of all it has not been confirmed that the person involved in the crash has died. Reporters have been seeking updates from police since yesterday and they are maintaining he is still alive and in a critical condition.
Secondly what is the difference between "real life" and "tv"? Please explain. Every time I watch the news on tv my understanding is that the content and the things I see are about "real life".
mottinghamgirl, mottingham says...
2:14pm Fri 13 Feb 09
MB, local says...
2:38pm Fri 13 Feb 09
mottinghamgirl wrote:We are not posting nasty comments about him or trying to upset anyone.
RIP Jack, you will be missed. For those who are posting nasty comments, grow up, you don't know him, how would you feel if your child died and people were saying things about them? There's no need for it, let him rest in peace without critism and hate, he may have made a mistake but noone knows the truth but him. He was a decent person i remember him as a kid, i'm still so shocked you're gone. I'm sorry we lost touch, a regret that will stay with me forever. I'll never forget you, always in my heart, love you Jack xXxXxXxXx
There are just a lot of people who have had enough of car thieves, joy riders and this whole white trash attitude towards law and order.
mottinghamgirl, mottingham says...
3:09pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Angelino, Mottingham says...
3:18pm Fri 13 Feb 09
I LOVE YOU JACK WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOUR CHEEKY CHARACTER AND GRINS- RIP...
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
seg, woolwich says...
4:09pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Thinking o the family at this sad time.
RIP Jack. sleep tightxxx
Brook, Deptford says...
4:11pm Fri 13 Feb 09
LNN, Chislehurst says...
4:23pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Let Jacks friends and family leave there comments here in peace.. Go hunt down another story to fulfill your mundane lives, im sure the same user names will again be judge and jury on some other news story.
joncook, Blackheath says...
4:24pm Fri 13 Feb 09
freear wrote:Are you for real!!! Insensitive is risking other peoples lives through your own stupidity and selfishness. What is someone had been hit by this mindless idiot! If he doesn't value his life thats fine, I couldn't care less but nothing gives this moron the right to risk other peoples lives.
To all those insensitive people out there, just for your information he did not deserve it at all, he is a very loving thoughtful man, What about his family his father his mother and his sister, they all loved him very much u should never be so cruel and heartless about people u dont even know. What if it were your son or brother or even ur father.... Also to Charllotte the lady who wrote the artical, u could of also been more sensitive towards his family , all u worried about was a few cars that should be insured anyway they can be replaced he cant!!!!!!
seg, woolwich says...
4:35pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Brook wrote:You obviously didnt know Jack this report was made at half 5 last night and alot has happened since then
Where does it say this person has died?
LNN, Chislehurst says...
4:46pm Fri 13 Feb 09
joncook wrote:Im sure the man didnt go out to kill himself intentionaly joncook, he done what he done and lost his life, he chose that path and im relieved innocent people wern't caught up in it.
freear wrote: To all those insensitive people out there, just for your information he did not deserve it at all, he is a very loving thoughtful man, What about his family his father his mother and his sister, they all loved him very much u should never be so cruel and heartless about people u dont even know. What if it were your son or brother or even ur father.... Also to Charllotte the lady who wrote the artical, u could of also been more sensitive towards his family , all u worried about was a few cars that should be insured anyway they can be replaced he cant!!!!!!Are you for real!!! Insensitive is risking other peoples lives through your own stupidity and selfishness. What is someone had been hit by this mindless idiot! If he doesn't value his life thats fine, I couldn't care less but nothing gives this moron the right to risk other peoples lives.
We all (tax payers) have to pay for what he done some way or another, same as we pay for benefit fraud, killers, rapists, peadophiles ect ect and have done for years, so all this hatered people write, wont change a thing.
joncook, Blackheath says...
4:51pm Fri 13 Feb 09
LNN wrote:You're right it won't change a thing but I have the right to say what I feel just as you do and if he had done something good for someone else and it was reported I would have commented on that but he didn't so I can't.
joncook wrote:Im sure the man didnt go out to kill himself intentionaly joncook, he done what he done and lost his life, he chose that path and im relieved innocent people wern't caught up in it. We all (tax payers) have to pay for what he done some way or another, same as we pay for benefit fraud, killers, rapists, peadophiles ect ect and have done for years, so all this hatered people write, wont change a thing.freear wrote: To all those insensitive people out there, just for your information he did not deserve it at all, he is a very loving thoughtful man, What about his family his father his mother and his sister, they all loved him very much u should never be so cruel and heartless about people u dont even know. What if it were your son or brother or even ur father.... Also to Charllotte the lady who wrote the artical, u could of also been more sensitive towards his family , all u worried about was a few cars that should be insured anyway they can be replaced he cant!!!!!!Are you for real!!! Insensitive is risking other peoples lives through your own stupidity and selfishness. What is someone had been hit by this mindless idiot! If he doesn't value his life thats fine, I couldn't care less but nothing gives this moron the right to risk other peoples lives.
Brook, Deptford says...
5:29pm Fri 13 Feb 09
seg wrote:Strange that the latest report says he died this afternoon then?
Brook wrote: Where does it say this person has died?You obviously didnt know Jack this report was made at half 5 last night and alot has happened since then
Brook, Deptford says...
5:32pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Angelino wrote:You won't miss your car when you go to drive it though
Well considering you keep deleting my comments i will would just like to ask again for that video to be removed and to say one more thing I LOVE YOU JACK WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOUR CHEEKY CHARACTER AND GRINS- RIP... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
LNN, Chislehurst says...
6:24pm Fri 13 Feb 09
joncook wrote:I say as i please but i dont add insulting comments to my dialect, there's no need, it just proves how uneducated and ignorant some people are.
LNN wrote:You're right it won't change a thing but I have the right to say what I feel just as you do and if he had done something good for someone else and it was reported I would have commented on that but he didn't so I can't.joncook wrote:Im sure the man didnt go out to kill himself intentionaly joncook, he done what he done and lost his life, he chose that path and im relieved innocent people wern't caught up in it. We all (tax payers) have to pay for what he done some way or another, same as we pay for benefit fraud, killers, rapists, peadophiles ect ect and have done for years, so all this hatered people write, wont change a thing.freear wrote: To all those insensitive people out there, just for your information he did not deserve it at all, he is a very loving thoughtful man, What about his family his father his mother and his sister, they all loved him very much u should never be so cruel and heartless about people u dont even know. What if it were your son or brother or even ur father.... Also to Charllotte the lady who wrote the artical, u could of also been more sensitive towards his family , all u worried about was a few cars that should be insured anyway they can be replaced he cant!!!!!!Are you for real!!! Insensitive is risking other peoples lives through your own stupidity and selfishness. What is someone had been hit by this mindless idiot! If he doesn't value his life thats fine, I couldn't care less but nothing gives this moron the right to risk other peoples lives.
there mum, lewisham says...
6:36pm Fri 13 Feb 09
shazza05, eltham says...
6:40pm Fri 13 Feb 09
It's Me again !, says...
7:37pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Jon Cheetham wrote:When I said "TV" i meant a programme rather than news coverage!
It's me again. First of all it has not been confirmed that the person involved in the crash has died. Reporters have been seeking updates from police since yesterday and they are maintaining he is still alive and in a critical condition. Secondly what is the difference between "real life" and "tv"? Please explain. Every time I watch the news on tv my understanding is that the content and the things I see are about "real life".
Your attitude of late is getting right on my nerves. You have showed no compassion to Families who have lost Children.
oh p.s
The lad is comfirmed as dead now so are You going to report the footage ?
Gypo, says...
10:29pm Fri 13 Feb 09
12:52pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Gypo wrote:
It's Me again !, who do you think you are ?? Who voted you censor for the Newsshopper. I hope they enlarge the vidio and show it around the schools in the SE, perhaps it would help put a stop to this car thieving/ joy riding nonsense. If it saved one young life it would be worth it. Maybe some good from this loss of one young life.
Do You have to be so rude ?
Anyway, If the parents of Jack gave permission then that would be a good idea.
However, at this moment in time I do not feel it is right to have this video on an open website...it's no better than a snuff video!
It's Me again !, in a word to you YES.
As much as you may like to think it, just because you don't like something that don't make you right.
Thats your opinion, ( to which you are entitled I may add ) perhaps others ( the editor maybe )feel otherwise. Take your rose tinted specs off and get into the real world. That of course is my opinion of you. :)
SE7, Charlton says...
10:41pm Fri 13 Feb 09
He was such scum that not only once but twice requested his organs be donated in the event of his death, lets just hope that none of u that think the worse of him will benefit from his great generosity and thoughtful action of organ donation. I hope those that do benefit from his mistakes and untimely death appreciate the gift of life his mistakes have given them.
Now please leave his family to grieve in peace and remember him for the son, brother, grandson and friend that he really was and not the person he is being portrayed by those that didnt even know him.
R.I.P Jack, Kelly & Jerry will be with you all the way watching over you. ****
ifoughtthelaw, Chislehurst says...
10:47pm Fri 13 Feb 09
Roman, Chislehurst says...
6:01am Sat 14 Feb 09
Tell me, how do you know his family isnt a decent law abiding family ? What right do you have to chastise people for poor grammer and spelling ? Does having a better education make you more of a human being than someone less gifted ? Do you think you are better than me because I make typing errors or simple spelling mistakes ? Does that make me under 40 or even 30 then ? Do I come from a non law abiding family because I think you are the lowest of the low to wish a fellow human being dead ? Can you see into my life ? No you cant.
Yes he broke the law, as said before who hasnt.
If you really think that some wall or car is more important than a human life just because it costs money, well you are a very sad person and need to get out more. People are the most wonderful thing to grace this planet. Without them there would be no cars or walls. Yes he broke the law. Yes he was stupid to run. But he was a kid. Do you people have kids ? I do I have 4. Now whilst they have never broken the law or been arrested. at ages of between 7 and 22 I have witnessed them do some really stupid things. Believe it or not its called GROWING UP. We as humans live or lives making mistakes we hope to learn from. Now If you can remember being a kid..or maybe you had a crap child hood or something which explains why you are so bitter and nasty, I dont know One can only ASSUME where your inhumanity lies, but anyway, as kids when you get your driving licence, thats it man hey look at me I'm the new sterling moss. As kids you think you are invincible and that it will never happen to you. You really do think that even though you have only been driving a few months your skills are better than any other tw@ out there. Its called arrogance and ignorance. Something all children have in abundance if they are normal human beings.
People have been stealing cars for as long as I can remember and I'm over 40 so anyone under that age should stop trying to make like its a new thing to todays generation because its not ! The same as them having their own way of communicating and their own language is no different to us having cb radio and saying things were bad or wicked when we meant they was good. You have forgot what it is to be young. So some are law breakers, not all come from the broken home or home of criminals like you seem to think. You are just quick to make that assumption.
Now he broke the law, yes. but we have a judicial systm in place to punish offenders, as inept as it may seem. The punishment for aggrevated vehicle taking is something like 110 hours community service banned from the front seat of any vehicle for two years and banned from driving for a year. Possible short custodial sentance if you are already disqualified. no where does it say the sentance is death.
So just who was it died and made you lot law lords then ?
Get down from your high horses, take your head out of your ar5es..lets be honest they are so far up em you can tickle your own tonsils,and realise that at the ages you claim to be , the law abiding citizens you claim to be, you are the ones who are to blame for society being this way, you cast you vote and made the powers that be the powers that be, if you didnt vote you can dam well shut up cos you have no say anyway, to lazy to vote means you put up with what lands in your lap. You tolerate the weak sentancing, you make a few moans and groans but then move on to the next thing. Apathy is this countires down fall. Dont spout offyour fed up with cars being nicked blah blah blah, Most of you dont even lock it up properly or take your valubles out then moan when you are a victim of crime.
Yes you should be able to leave things and not worry, but you cant, so get over it, if you make it hard for them, they cant nick it can they. But your all so clever you could have worked that out for yourselfs eh. Children????? just what ones is it, the under 18's ? or the ones posting childish comments about how he had it coming for making maybe the first and biggest mistake of his life ? Do you know ? Have you seen his criminal record ? If every one was punished with death for making a mistake there would be more corpses than living, but hey, at least the Newsshopper web site might get rid of its holier than tho know it all know nothing insensitive up their own back sides judgmental numpties.
P.S.I'm dyslexic, so where exactly is this spell checker on the News shopper web site ? Cant seem to find it anywhere...or would you once more be assuming and think everyone has microsoft works or word or even has the ability to know where or how to find and use such programmes....theres that word again...assmue...wel
l if you can do it so can I...and I assume your all criminals who have done jail sentances for child abuse wife beating and mugging old granies, talk about the blind leading the blind.
It's Me again !, says...
10:47am Sat 14 Feb 09
Gypo wrote:Firstly, learn to click on "quote" as it makes you comments easier to read!
It's Me again !, says... 12:52pm Fri 13 Feb 09 Gypo wrote: It's Me again !, who do you think you are ?? Who voted you censor for the Newsshopper. I hope they enlarge the vidio and show it around the schools in the SE, perhaps it would help put a stop to this car thieving/ joy riding nonsense. If it saved one young life it would be worth it. Maybe some good from this loss of one young life. Do You have to be so rude ? Anyway, If the parents of Jack gave permission then that would be a good idea. However, at this moment in time I do not feel it is right to have this video on an open website...it's no better than a snuff video! It's Me again !, in a word to you YES. As much as you may like to think it, just because you don't like something that don't make you right. Thats your opinion, ( to which you are entitled I may add ) perhaps others ( the editor maybe )feel otherwise. Take your rose tinted specs off and get into the real world. That of course is my opinion of you. :)
Secondly, the video has now been removed!
Thirdly, if you read correctly you will see i say "i feel" ...that means its my opinion rather than a statement
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
10:52am Sat 14 Feb 09
http://www.thesoluti
oncafe.com/public-sp
ell-checker.html
localcomment, Beckenham says...
11:01am Sat 14 Feb 09
somebodystolemyusername, London says...
11:17am Sat 14 Feb 09
Gypo, says...
11:58am Sat 14 Feb 09
Well the vidio has been removed, what next the still pictures ? Get your brush and whitewash, you can paint over every thing in life YOU don't like.
ball-name....pollock
s ? :)
joeisgreat64, Beckenham says...
8:34pm Sun 22 Feb 09
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