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VIDEO: Are crime maps welcome in your area?

2:02pm Friday 15th August 2008

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CRIME maps showing where and how often offences are committed could be seen on the internet from next month.

The Met is currently testing electronic crime mapping software and plans to launch the system in September, after a technical review.

Interactive maps will sit alongside monthly crime statistics published on the Met police website and will provide details of the number, rate and geographical location of defined crime types on a ward, borough and pan-London basis.

A test map can be viewed online at maps.met.police.uk.

By clicking on a borough, you can see the figures for burglary, robbery and vehicle crime and comparison figures from previous years.

According to the map the crime rate in the Bromley, Lewisham and Greenwich boroughs is average for London.

And Bexley is below average.

Crime maps have been used in the US - notably in Chicago, New York and Los Angeles - where police departments show incidents at a house-to-house level.

News Shopper went to Burnt Ash Hill in Lee - the scene of the murder of teenager Jimmy Mizen on May 10 - to find out what people think about crime maps.

Watch the video to hear their views.


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jayjay, here says...
3:08pm Fri 15 Aug 08

How about they just hand out leaflets on the street corner letting the thiefs know which area to target as the police are concentrating on the Crime Hot Spots!

Posh nosh, State side. says...
4:05pm Fri 15 Aug 08

Good.
At least the unsightly will move over to another neighbourhood and leave us alone.

cassie, bromley says...
9:38pm Fri 15 Aug 08

perhaps we should have maps showing 'crime related incidents' too

Diane, Bromley says...
11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
perhaps we should have maps showing \'crime related incidents\' too
Shame that they don't warn about what area boring people live in, so we can steer well clear. I bet you're a real blast at parties.

Excalibur, Bromley says...
11:29pm Fri 15 Aug 08

How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We'd know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............
....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime' in a particular area.

This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You'd be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc!

What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!

Ferrett, Bickley says...
11:31pm Fri 15 Aug 08

How about Judge - Top Trumps?

For each Judge they could have categories such as;

Age
Years in the Job
Salary
Cost to Bribe
Number of community service hours sentenced
Time spent at Lunch
Number of Perversions
Death Sentences Awarded
and
(in)Sanity Level

The kids could play against each other and learn which judges to avoid at the same time.

Gypo, says...
11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08

Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08

Gypo wrote:
Cassie and Sisyphus, the most boring people on the planet. They should move from Bromley to Borehamwood, where they could both Google stats forever.
I agree about Cassie, but Sisyphus is quite amusing.

Matt, Bromley says...
2:40pm Sat 16 Aug 08

I think that we should be focusing on what will improve the effectiveness of the police - the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner, so using it is nothing new to them and will unlikely be of any benefit in reducing crime. We will end up stigmatising areas and the only people to really benefit will be the reorters on newspapers who will be able to whip up emotions and create a mob mentality - and possibly the crafty Estate Agents who will raise prices in an area if it has below average crime.

I think the real thing we need to do is make the judiciary more open and accountable - the Police can target a high crime area time and again, nicking the criminals, only for the courts to fail to hand down any effective deterrent.

Edward, Bromley says...
3:53pm Sat 16 Aug 08

What a waste of money, money that could be spent on policing. As has already been said, the police already use crime mapping data themselves in a very sophisticated manner. Use the money elsewhere in policing. Without any computer data or police expertese I can quite easily map the crime areas - Lewisham, Croydon, Southwark........

cassie, bromley says...
2:54am Sun 17 Aug 08

Diane, Bromley on 11:24pm Fri 15 Aug 08

aw thanks and i'd similarly bet your ad hom attacks are considered the height of intelligence and wit to bullies in school playgrounds :)

cassie, bromley says...
2:59am Sun 17 Aug 08

Gypo on 11:39pm Fri 15 Aug 08

ooh more ad hom attacks, i'm sure bullies everywhere really look up to you and diane

cassie, bromley says...
3:04am Sun 17 Aug 08

Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 11:41am Sat 16 Aug 08

and yet another ad hom attack....wonder if gypo, diane and seven are in the same gang

Gypo, says...
1:24pm Sun 17 Aug 08

No gang 'cassie'. Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?
You really are a bore. Not bullying, not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.
A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
4:16pm Sun 17 Aug 08

I have to agree, Gypo. Cassie is incredibly tedious and the type you'd find in the corner of a room at a party.

Eddie, Beckenham says...
7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08

and yet another ad hom attack....
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely.

cassie, bromley says...
3:50am Tue 19 Aug 08

No gang 'cassie'

aw never mind, same mentality

Did it ever cross your mind that people really do find you and 'Sis' boring ?

did it ever cross your mind that people really do find bullying as unacceptable in adults as they do in children

of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -

the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners

You really are a bore

you really are a bully

Not bullying

actually your behaviour is well-recognised as bullying

not racist, not sexist, just hard facts you may not like.

the fact you obviously don't like is that your behaviour is no different to that of bullies in a school playground

A border line commie, socialist freaking bore. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !

oh name-calling - that's what bullies do, you've just absolutely proved i'm right :)

cassie, bromley says...
3:56am Tue 19 Aug 08

I have to agree, Gypo.

(want to look big by joining in with other bullies)

cassie, bromley says...
4:07am Tue 19 Aug 08

Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean?

lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring

Sorry, cassie

no need to be, i find human nature very interesting

I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort!

said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef

Harsh, maybe. True, definitely

due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely

Sweary Stan, Lee says...
4:42am Tue 19 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.

Chris, Penge says...
7:02am Tue 19 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
I have to agree, Gypo. (want to look big by joining in with other bullies)
You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders! However, merely calling everyone who disagrees with you or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring is stretching credibility a bit.

Sussed, Bromley says...
8:55am Tue 19 Aug 08

Sweary Stan wrote:
cassie wrote: Am I missing something here? What on earth does 'ad hom' mean? lol, i can see why you would feel my posts are boring Sorry, cassie no need to be, i find human nature very interesting I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! said the person who doesn't know what 'ad hom' means and doesn't even have the wits to look it up himslef Harsh, maybe. True, definitely due to feelings you have of being inadequate maybe, bullying definitely
Swaery Stan likes Cassie.She sure has some balls.
Two of a kind -or the same person?

Gypo, says...
10:24pm Tue 19 Aug 08

"of course people who resort to trying to bully others usually have no insight into why they feel the need to behave like that, however there are many reasons, obviously as we are complete strangers i don't know why you feel the need but for example -

the bully might have problems with their family, might be bullied themselves, might have no friends and/or feel inadequate so want to make others feel as bad as they do, have low self-esttem and get a feeling of power from bullying, want to look big by joining in with other bulliess, and/or the bully's parents had no parenting skills and never taught their offspring morals and manners "


Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me.
I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post, and whenever you dont like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children. How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.
Perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not.

cassie, bromley says...
10:58pm Tue 19 Aug 08

You certainly seem to be a well balanced sort - you've got a chip on both shoulders!

aw bless, a truly pitiful attempt at the old 'blame the victim' tactic so loved by bullies

merely calling everyone who disagrees with you

the simple point which eludes you with such astonishing success is the difference between disagreeing with someone's viewpoint on an issue and mindless ad hom attacks

or points out the irrefutable fact that you're boring

oh dear, another very simple point that eludes you, ie whether anyone is or isn't boring is of course entirely subjective...

so you see, or rather if only you could see, while you must presumably think you are incredibly interesting others find you incredibly boring, not to mention incredibly stupid and lacking in the most basic manners :)

however, if we all spent our time telling everyone we thought was boring / stupid / ignorant that they are boring / stupid / ignorant every comment board would simply be full of posts saying 'your boring / stupid / ignorant'...

while i can see that you might find that most interesting and stimulating, to the majority of people over the age of five it would be mindnumbingly boring

Eddie, Beckenham says...
11:29pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Cassie,

Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says - you could not be more wrong.

I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card. When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.

And perhaps you should practise what you preach, you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?

cassie, bromley says...
11:54pm Tue 19 Aug 08

Casssie you just could not be more wrong. Totally wrong about me

from your posts obviously i'm not though

I have read a lot of what you and your 'amigo' Sis post

oh how very dare you, you've gone waaay too far now - sis is not my 'amigo', sis is a self-confessed supremacist

and whenever you dont like a post

it isn't a matter of 'not liking' posts it is a matter of ojecting to attempts to bully

you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card.

er no...you must be confusing me with another poster

When you cannot get your own way you both winge like spoiled children

er no again...you've just made that up in your head, you seem to have forgetten that anyone can go to the top of this board, read through the comments and see that i merely commented on the story and was then mindlessly personally insulted

How can anyone bully you when you dont know me, and you also choose to read posts.

sorry don't understand that, is it gang-slang?

Perhaps you should practise what you preach

i do...well i don't practise but i do practice

you told someone they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not

no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)

Gypo, says...
12:06am Wed 20 Aug 08

"no it isn't, i'm all for bullies getting a taste of their own medicine, i'm just throwing back at the bullies what they chose to start dishing out :)"

Two wrongs don't make a right. Or do they in your twisted mind.

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This prac·tise Audio Help (prâk'tĭs) Pronunciation Key
v. & n. Chiefly British
Variant of practice.

A British variant, much like you I expect. :)

Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore. At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause. Bored on night shift are you ?

cassie, bromley says...
12:56am Wed 20 Aug 08

Have to agree entirely with what Gypo says

you've reminded me of another reason for bullying - join in because scared of becoming a target of the bullies

I have read a lot of what you post, and whenever you don't like a post you use the bulling, racist, or sexist card

that simply isn't true though, you've just made it up - or rather 'gypo' made it up and you are just mindlessly parroting it

When you cannot get your own way you whinge like a spoiled child.

lol, no i don't, although of course feel free to give an example to support your claim...if you actually can

And perhaps you should practise what you preach,

hmmmm... your post is so similar to gypo's i thought there was an echo in here and then exactly the same spelling error as 'gypo'...spookily uncanny or someone with very low-self-esteem resorting to posting comments agreeing with themself under a different name :)

you told someone (me) they haven't the wits to know what ad hom means. Thats bullying by your own standards , is it not?

no because that was said in response to you saying first "Sorry, cassie, I have to agree - looking at your posts you're not exactly an interesting sort! Harsh, maybe. True, definitely."...

i'll try to explain for you the significance of the order of the posts - you posted to me first -
Eddie, Beckenham on 7:49pm Sun 17 Aug 08...

you chose to join in with the personal attacks on me, you chose to be rude and insulting to me, even though i hadn't said anything to you or about you...

so i replied - cassie, bromley on 4:07am today - giving back what you had chosen to dish out...which i'm sure you'd agree is only fair :)

Gypo, says...
1:17am Wed 20 Aug 08

Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep.
good night, what is it you say....
"aw bless"

Feel free to carry on posting though, as I'm sure you will.

cassie, bromley says...
2:39am Wed 20 Aug 08

Two wrongs don't make a right.

oh you are a pacifist, how curious given your bullyboy behaviour...for those who are not pacifists two wrongs can and very often do make a right, for example self-defence, standing up to bullies, going to war to stop despots etc

Or do they in your twisted mind.

lol - the 'twisted mind' is obviously in the person who did the first wrong, in the person who started it...and that was you dear...

why, anyone would think you are a complete hypocrite who likes dishing it out but can't take it back...

American Heritage Dictionary...

an american pacifist, even more interesting...anyway

, oxford english dictionary - 'practice...usage it should be noted that practice is the spelling for the noun...'

so,- being british - as i said to you i don't practise what i preach i practice what i preach

Simon Bull in polite terms told you much the same, you are a bore

oh well if simon 'i'm not putting up with what i insist eveyone else puts up with' bull said it that absolutely proves it's true doesn't it - well it does to the sycophants :)

At least on this story you arn't messing up his good cause.

you mean like the bullies mess up other boards when the story is about someone trying to do good, but - as they don't have simon's power to remove posts - unlike him they just have to put up with it?

Bored on night shift are you ?

feeling so inadequate you feel the need to try to bully others are you?

cassie, bromley says...
2:48am Wed 20 Aug 08

Well cassie you've bored us all to sleep. good night, what is it you say...."aw bless"

night gypo / eddie, hope overnight you realise your bullying gets you nowhere (and makes for incredibly boring boards) and so you resolve to act like an civilised adult in future

Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
1:47pm Wed 20 Aug 08

I couldnt Agree with you more JayJay. they are trying to make improvments & move a step forward but fear like yourself that they are simply going to be taking 2 steps back if they were to implement this Idea & acutally launch it in September, bad idea, they need to go back to the drawing board & think of something else!

Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
2:20pm Wed 20 Aug 08

Excalibur wrote:
How about applying the same principles to the judiciary? Why not have a website that members of the public can log into which lists all of our magistrates and all of our judges. Upon clicking on their name, it would reveal a list by type (ie. burglary, robbery, assault) of the cases that they had been responsible for when someone had been convicted - and the sentence that was handed down. That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are. We\'d know exactly who is releasing the criminals back into our community to commit further offences............ ....and exactly who was responsible for the Fear of Crime\' in a particular area. This would have the fantastic added benefit of holding a number of politicians to account, if our experience here in Bromley is anything to go by. You\'d be amazed at the number of magistrates that are local councillors - he who speaks with a forked tongue, etc, etc! What a fantastic idea, if I may say so myself!
Its the best & most sensible idea ive read in a long time! you have my Vote!

cassie, bromley says...
1:14am Thu 21 Aug 08

That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are

not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for

Gypo, says...
1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Oh is you Little Miss Boring.

Excalibur, Bromley says...
10:17am Thu 21 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
That way we could immediately see where the weak links in the criminal justice system are not defending (as it were) magistrates/judges but the sentencing guidelines council and panel also have a lot to answer for
I hear where you're coming from, but how many times do the judges and magistrates stick to these? We read time and again about the guidelines being ignored. Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time.

Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
11:21am Thu 21 Aug 08

Cassie Answer me this Question... if magistrates/judges as it were" we faced with a case where a drink driver was behind the wheel of a car & knocked over a young child & killed them out right! Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?
There are judges out there that will throw the book at the person responsible! & Judges who just decide to give the person responsible for that crime a slap on the wrist & ill meet ya in the pub for a pint later to say thanks for the light sentence! **** to the guidelines! I say only employ the Judges who have the balls to throw the book at the Criminals of our Society! Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!

cassie, bromley says...
1:04am Fri 22 Aug 08

Gypo on 1:20am Thu 21 Aug 08 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzz
Oh is you Little Miss Boring
.

while bullying is soooo very interesting and soooo very exciting isn't it, well to big and clever and really really hard bullies like you, gosh bet all your gang-mates really look up to you :)

cassie, bromley says...
1:23am Fri 22 Aug 08

Time to take the discresion out of their hands and make the sentences mandatory. Do the crime, do the time

not too sure about mandatory same-for-every-case, i feel that as a principle of justice each case should be treated individually - perhaps we need appropriate minimums

i'd agree that far too much leniency is shown to repeat, and violent, offenders

really the whole sentencing and prison regimes need a complete overhaul

cassie, bromley says...
1:58am Fri 22 Aug 08

...Do you think that because of guidelines the magistrate/judge should be lenient or sympathetic to that driver for taking the life of that child because he/she chose to drink drive?...

no but there are many factors which have to be, or should be, taken into account, eg how much over the legal limit, culpability etc

i see on the sentencing guidelines council website they've just issued their definitive guidelines re causing death by driving, it includes drink-driving, careless driving etc, effective 4 august

i've had a v v quick look, haven't read it properly but there are lots of ins and outs mags/judges are supposed to consider when working out the sentence, the link to those new guidelines is on this page

www.sentencing-guide

lines.gov.uk/

Over crowded prisons? Then build more! Simple!

yes! the rank incompetence of this government is shocking and obviously dangerous for society, why they are not being held to account for this i don't know

Kate, Sidcup says...
7:06pm Fri 22 Aug 08

i see on the sentencing guidelines council website
Get a life, saddo.

cassie, bromley says...
4:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08

fascinating...your problem obviously stems from deep-seated feelings of inadequacy


Gypo, says...
11:24pm Sun 24 Aug 08

cassiezzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzz

cassie, bromley says...
3:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08

gypo, thanks because with your every post you prove you are a bully, keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)

Gypo, says...
7:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08

cassie you do like having the last word. You are a bore, a bore, a bore. Hows that little Miss Boring. You'r like a spoilt child," boo hoo I'm being bullied". Guess what, no one's listening or cares because you are just that, a BORE.

Gypo, says...
7:54pm Mon 25 Aug 08

"keeping on and on and on as bullies do :)"

Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity cassie. Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say ". :)

Kate, Sidcup says...
8:05pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Gypo,

You're obviously a psychiatrist - you've sussed boring cassie out perfectly!

cassie, bromley says...
11:49pm Mon 25 Aug 08

cassie you do like having the last word

er...no, i'm replying to your posts...you are the one who wants the last word, you are post first and i reply

You are a bore, a bore, a bore. /italic]

you are a bully, a bully, a bully

Hows that little Miss Boring

lol...it's pathetic but doubtless you think it makes you look really, really big and clever and sooooo hard

You'r like a spoilt child

you are the one behaving like a spoilt child, keeping on and on and on

"boo hoo I'm being bullied"

ha you wish...i'm not though, i'm just giving you back what you are choosing to dish out...which surely you would agree is only fair

you say you think i'm boring, i reply that you are a bully...and that you are still keeping on and on just proves you are

Guess what, no one's listening or cares

hmmmm....except... you obviously are and do!

because you are just that, a BORE

and you are just that, a BULLY :)

cassie, bromley says...
12:01am Tue 26 Aug 08

Jusst like you did on Simon Bulls story about his swap for charity

i didn't though, i posted a comment about the story , some then chose to keep making comments to me so i replied

Typical socialist aren't you " dont do as I do, do as I say "

as above, i was merely replying to comments made to me, ie it wasn't me keeping on it was those who kept posting to me first...

a simple enough sequence to grasp but i'm not particularly surprised you are having great difficulty understanding it

cassie, bromley says...
12:06am Tue 26 Aug 08

You're obviously a psychiatrist

you are obviously a bully kate...or should i say gypo / eddie :)

Gypo, says...
1:20am Tue 26 Aug 08

"Bully" you just love that word cassie. The same old, same old.

Boring, boring, you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores.
See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)

cassie, bromley says...
2:27am Tue 26 Aug 08

"Bully" you just love that word cassie.

"boring" you just love that word gypo

The same old, same old

you've being posting first and i'm merely replying to your 'same old same old'....i see you've still not managed to grasp the simple sequence yet

Boring, boring

bullying, bullying

you and ya pal Sisyphalus. I bet you both have black belts in being a total bores

you and ya 'pals' kate and eddie etc, i bet you all have yellow belts in being really really big and clever and soooo hard bullies

See ya, defo would not wanna be ya. :)


see ya, defo would not want to be ya, doubtless you don't want to be ya either hence the attempts to bully someone else :)

Kate, Sidcup says...
8:00am Tue 26 Aug 08

Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie. And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring? Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore. Or in your language btw you're a sad bore :)

Ridge, Stockton-On-Tees says...
10:56am Tue 26 Aug 08

I can feel the Love on this page!

Gypo, says...
8:12pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Cassie don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does, in fact most of us find you the B word. :)

cassie, bromley says...
11:50pm Tue 26 Aug 08

Definitely a number of severe mental health issues going on there cassie.

sure some counselling will help you with them

And why do you find it so hard to believe that more than one person can find you boring?

why do you find it so hard to understand the meaning of the word 'subjective'

Well reality check, most people find you a tedious bore

most people find you a really stupid little bully

Or in your language btw you're a sad bore

in your own language you're a thicko :)

cassie, bromley says...
12:10am Wed 27 Aug 08

Cassie don't take yourself so seriously

i'm not, i'm just replying to your posts

in fact most of us find you the B word.

in fact you show yet again that you are a bully...you just don't realise you are exposing your low self-esteem :)

Kate, Sidcup says...
9:00am Wed 27 Aug 08

cassie,

Get some treatment - they may release you one day. I expect you've bored the other inmates to death by now. 'Death by cassie' - you really wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy!

Gypo, says...
8:15pm Wed 27 Aug 08

"in your own language you're a thicko :)"

Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say."
Oh I remember your only giving it back.

cassie, bromley says...
2:18am Thu 28 Aug 08

Get some treatment...

you are the one needing treatment... and as i'm sooooo kind i'll try to help you see that..

first we'll identify some examples of your behaviour and then consider the cause(s)

behaviour

- bullies project their own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling

- bullies try to publicly put others down

- bullies try hard to boost their ego by undermining others

- bullies make irrational accusations and constantly repeat them

- bullies run 'witch-hunts' against those they perceive as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent

- bullies feel a strong desire to hurt / upset others

causes

- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy

- low self-esteem and jealousy

- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings

- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control

- very low iq

- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy

the good news is that research shows that some bullies can overcome their crippling mental-health problems...good luck :)

cassie, bromley says...
2:29am Thu 28 Aug 08

Once again, "don't do as I do, do as I say

lol - that's your line, you like dishing it but whinge when someone does as you do

Oh I remember your only giving it back

as even the most cursory glance through this board clearly shows - you started it, you are keeping on and on and on, i'm just replying :)

Kate, Sidcup says...
9:41am Thu 28 Aug 08

- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy

- low self-esteem and jealousy

- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings

- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control

- very low iq

- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy
Couldn't have summed you up better myself, cassie.

cassie, bromley says...
3:07am Fri 29 Aug 08

oh dear 'kate', clearly despite my kindly attempts to help you are still in denial

your posts and behaviour - that you started it and feel driven to continue it, and are exhibiting classic bully-mentality - are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts

btw your denial of the truth is a classic symptom of bullying caused by deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy, hope that insight helps you start to come to terms with reality :)

Kate, Sidcup says...
11:14am Fri 29 Aug 08

cassie, in her own words:
- deep-seated feelings of insecurity and/or inadequacy

- low self-esteem and jealousy

- inability to accept or address personal shortcomings

- feelings of utter helplessness / lack of control

- very low iq

- abnormal mental / emotional development eg constant siege mentality, lacking empathy


cassie, in everyone else's words:
dull & boring

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
6:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08

are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation!

cassie, bromley says...
11:21pm Sat 30 Aug 08

'kate' as shown by her behaviour

- projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling

- trying to publicly put others down

- trying hard to boost ego by undermining others

- making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them

- running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent

- feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others

'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully

cassie, bromley says...
11:40pm Sat 30 Aug 08

I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation !

err...what do you blame them for and why?

not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities

and indeed comment boards :)

Kate, Bromley says...
11:40pm Sat 30 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
'kate' as shown by her behaviour - projecting own inadequacies onto others, particularly via name-calling - trying to publicly put others down - trying hard to boost ego by undermining others - making irrational accusations and constantly repeating them - running a 'witch-hunt' against someone perceived as being happy and/or more successful and/or more intelligent - feeling a strong desire to hurt / upset others 'kate' in everyone else's words: sad bully
All points in my previous post fully proven.

Kate, Sidcup says...
12:04am Sun 31 Aug 08

cassie wrote:
I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation ! err...what do you blame them for and why? not saying there isn't much to blame them for, not least the 'anti-social' behaviour blighting communities and indeed comment boards :)
You really are intent on proving my assertion that you've got a low IQ, aren't you cassie? It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh!

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
2:15pm Sun 31 Aug 08

Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious.

However, what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person. Give it up, we're really not interested.

cassie, bromley says...
2:02am Mon 1 Sep 08

All points in my previous post fully proven.

lol...i appreciate you are in denial but the truth is documented in the posts above for everyone to see -

you started it with your irrational, bullying name-calling and you are the one keeping on and on and on -

which just makes you look more and more desperate and in need of help, professional help

cassie, bromley says...
2:12am Mon 1 Sep 08

It's pretty obvious to all bar an idiot that the post left by 'Rattler' is referring to your inability to communicate in English. Doh!

goodness you are thick aren't you, typical thicko unthinkingly accepting unfounded assumptions and believing them as fact...

so, doh! what exactly have blair & co got to do with my ability to communicate in english?

i wouldn't be at all surprised if they have everything to do with your appalling manners and inability to think logically though :)

cassie, bromley says...
2:21am Mon 1 Sep 08

Indeed that was exactly the point I was making, which I would think was pretty obvious

not obvious to those with the capacity to think....instead of just believing unfounded assumptions they've made up in their head and repeating them as fact...

so my question again -

err...what do you blame them for and why?

italic]what is now more obvious is that 'cassie' and 'Kate' are indeed the same person.

gypo / eddie / kate / rattler you really have gone tooooo far now, that insult is waaaayy beneath the belt :)

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
8:14am Mon 1 Sep 08

'cassie'/'Kate',

Please seek treatment, you really are urgently in need of some.

cassie, bromley says...
1:23am Tue 2 Sep 08

gypo / eddie / kate / rattler why don't you answer the question?

what do you blame blair and co for and why?

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
7:57am Tue 2 Sep 08

are writ large above for all to see, as is that i am merely replying to your posts


I blame Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Eleven years of New Labour and this is the result. Talk about the dumbing down of a nation!


Are you for real? Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.

And 'cassie/kate', looking at your previous posts, I'd say that you are pretty ill - your posts clearly reveal this. There's not a rational, well-thought out argument amonst them. All you do is respond to people's posts by saying exactly the same thing about them. Hardly the sign of a great mind! Anyway, I've got a life to lead, so I'll leave you to argue amongst your many personalities.......
.

cassie, bromley says...
1:19am Wed 3 Sep 08

Surely you cannot be so daft as to not understand this? If so, it is proof positive that 11 years of New Lie-bour have wrecked the education system.

what are you on about?

why don't you just answer the question as you claim the answer is soooo obvious?

what exactly do you believe '11 years of new labour" has to do with my education?

cassie, bromley says...
1:30am Wed 3 Sep 08

All you do is respond to people's posts by saying exactly the same thing about them.

typical irrational bully-mentality nonsense from 'rattler' - moaning about responses but totally ignoring those starting it and continuing it by saying exactly the same thing over and over and over again -

typical bully-mentality 'don't do as i do because i don't like it boo hoo'

Gypo, says...
12:48am Fri 5 Sep 08

"typical bully-mentality 'don't do as i do because i don't like it boo hoo'"

Change the tune cassie, find something new to play.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zz

cassie, bromley says...
1:56am Fri 5 Sep 08

Change the tune cassie, find something new to play. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

know you don't like it when others do as you do but tough

i am replying to your posts...you started it and you are continuing it

so you change the tune and you find something new to play...

then i won't reply

Rattler One Seven, Bromley says...
6:51am Fri 5 Sep 08

Please seek some urgent medical treatment, cassie. You really are very ill.

Gypo, says...
11:17am Fri 5 Sep 08

Cassie + Sisyphalus both say the same old crap on every post.

Get to Siberia where you both belong ya commie freaks.

Belle, Blackheath says...
11:54am Fri 5 Sep 08

Rattler, very wise words.


cassie, bromley says...
11:49pm Sat 6 Sep 08

Rattler One Seven, Bromley on 6:51am Fri 5 Sep 08
Please seek some urgent medical treatment, cassie. You really are very ill.


your ridiculous and irrational behaviour shows it is you who needs urgent medical help

cassie, bromley says...
11:56pm Sat 6 Sep 08

Gypo on 11:17am Fri 5 Sep 08 Cassie + Sisyphalus both say the same old crap on every post.

lol - aw diddums, you obviously can't stand it when others do as you do

i'm merely replying to the crap you started and the same old crap you continue on every post

cassie, bromley says...
12:01am Sun 7 Sep 08

Belle, Blackheath on 11:54am Fri 5 Sep 08
Rattler, very wise words.
Rattler, very wise words.


hmmmm....i can see that someone lacking the capacity to think logically would think they were wise words :)

Gypo, says...
1:43am Sun 7 Sep 08

Cassie go morph yourself again. Who will you be next time freak.

Rattler ne Seven, Bromley says...
8:10am Sun 7 Sep 08

Oh dear, cassie, your posts say it all. Please do seek some urgent medical treatment, you really are a very ill person.

Darren, Beckenham says...
2:00pm Sun 7 Sep 08

your ridiculous and irrational behaviour shows it is you who needs urgent medical help
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
!! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! The irony's obviously well lost on you though, looney tunes!

cassie, bromley says...
12:57am Tue 9 Sep 08

Gypo on 1:43am Sun 7 Sep 08
Cassie go morph yourself again. Who will you be next time freak.
Cassie go morph


gypo/kate/eddie/ratt
ler go morph yourself again who will you be next time bully .
gypo/kate/eddie/ratt
ler go get some professional help

cassie, bromley says...
1:06am Tue 9 Sep 08

Rattler ne Seven, Bromley on 8:10am Sun 7 Sep 08
Oh dear, cassie, your posts say it all.


yes they do don't they - they explain that i'm replying...

appreciate though that you just want to dish it out but can't stand it coming back

cassie, bromley says...
1:13am Tue 9 Sep 08

Darren, Beckenham on 2:00pm Sun 7 Sep 08...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHA!!... looney tunes...


Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

The irony's obviously well lost on you though,

the irony that the fact i'm simply replying is obviously well lost on you, is obviously well lost on you...

and makes you look extremely stupid :)

Darren, Beckenham says...
7:08am Tue 9 Sep 08

Posted by: cassie, bromley on 1:13am today

the irony that the fact i'm simply replying is obviously well lost on you, is obviously well lost on you...

and makes you look extremely stupid :)



I'm not the one incessantly posting inane comments. Take a look back through all your comments on the different stories - and then try and tell everyone - whilst keeping a straight face - that you're a perfectly rounded individual.

While you're at it, look up the definition of irony in the dictionary....

cassie, bromley says...
10:35pm Thu 11 Sep 08

I'm not the one incessantly posting inane comments.

oh dear, you don't seem able to grasp that i'm simply replying to posts to/about me...which after all is only fair isn't it

why don't you object to those who are repeatedly making inane bullying comments to/about me in the first place?

Take a look back through all your comments on the different stories...

lol - try looking at your own posts love...'perfectly rounded individuals' don't feel the need to make personal attacks, 'perfectly rounded individuals' don't try and bully with mindless insults, they address the argument ...

While you're at it, look up the definition of irony in the dictionary

i know what irony means thanks...why don't you explain exactly why you think i don't...if you can ...

Excalibur, Bromley says...
6:41pm Fri 12 Sep 08

Just looked back on this one to check something out and I can't believe it's still rumbling on! Well done, cassie, for standing your corner - I can't believe that you were given so much grief for merely posting a response to my suggestion. Good stuff for sticking to your guns! Whilst I might not agree with everything you say all the time, I respect your right to say it.

cassie, bromley says...
12:41am Sat 13 Sep 08

why thank you kind excalibur, much appreciated :)

Darren, Beckenham says...
1:47pm Sat 13 Sep 08

ca-zzzzzzzzzzz.

Gypo, says...
2:35pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Take your sword out of cassies as s Excalibur.
Morph yourself again cassie. Who will you be next ?

cassie, bromley says...
10:21pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Darren, Beckenham on 1:47pm Sat 13 Sep 08
ca-zzzzzzzzzzz.


wow, such wit, my what a lively, sparkling personality you must have, your posts are always soooooo very interesting

cassie, bromley says...
10:30pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Gypo on 2:35pm today
Take your sword out of cassies as s Excalibur. Morph yourself again cassie. Who will you be next ?


aw, judging others by your own standards again, just because you feel so inadequate you have to create imaginary friends doesn't mean everyone else is doing the same

Gypo, says...
11:27pm Sun 14 Sep 08

Next !!

cassie, bromley says...
12:21am Tue 16 Sep 08

Gypo on 11:27pm Sun 14 Sep 08 Next !!

next?

Gypo, says...
12:46am Tue 16 Sep 08

yes Next !

Excalibur, Bromley says...
1:37pm Tue 16 Sep 08

Gypo wrote:
Take your sword out of cassies as s Excalibur. Morph yourself again cassie. Who will you be next ?
A man of intellect, eh Gypo? Then let me try and explain this very simply, for your benefit - cassie and I were engaged in a meaningful discussion about the topic in question. I posted my thoughts and cassie added some revelant observations of her own. No rudeness or abuse, simple respect for each other's point of view. Unfortunately, poor cassie has suffered a deluge of unwarranted abuse for her troubles. I have then commented on this - only to receive a rather bizzare attempt at a rebuke from yourself! Behave yourself, silly boy, we don't act like that in a civilised society. Try and act like an adult!

Gypo, says...
9:48pm Tue 16 Sep 08

Silly boys is it Excalibur. Try again fool.
I along with others find 'cassie' a bore. She doesn't like being told that. If, and when, after reading your posts I feel the same way about you, I will tell you so. After reading some of your posts, ( and now your Blog, very thought provoking by the way.) I don't think you would tell me I'm a bully all the time. As you say " Try and act like an adult!" If your post was to 'cassie' she would be calling you a bully, would she not ?

cassie, bromley says...
12:13am Fri 19 Sep 08

Gypo on 12:46am Tue 16 Sep 08 yes Next !

next?

casie, bromley says...
12:45am Fri 19 Sep 08

Gypo on 9:48pm Tue 16 Sep 08...I along with others ind 'cassie' a bore.

so what if you do? what of it? do you believe only people you don't find 'boring' are allowed to post here...and if anyone you find 'boring' does dare to post then they must be subjected to your ceaseless rude and insulting posts until they go away?

She doesn't like being told that.

lol - as i've previous explained i couldn't care less what is your opinion of me, it is your bully mentality i don't like...

it's very simple, as you insisted on posting your 'view' of me i accepted the implicit invitation to post my view of you...

you then ceaselessly keep on and on and on and on and on...you are obviously the one who doesn't like it!

If, and when, after reading your posts I feel the same way about you, I will tell you so

yet when i've read your posts and feel you are a bully and told you so...you don't like it!

ok for you to post your opinion of me but when i post my opinion of you, you object...as i've said before you like dishing it out but don't like getting it back :)

I don't think you would tell me I'm a bully all the time

ha! - i was replying to your posts to/about me...if you hadn't kept posting to/about me all the time that i'm 'boring, i wouldn't have had any need to reply 'all the time' with my opinion that you are a bully

As you say " Try and act like an adult!" If your post was to 'cassie' she would be calling you a bully, would she not ?

whether i did or not would depend upon why it had been said...if i'd been behaving as a stupid bully as you have been then it would be richly deserved :)

Gypo, says...
1:54am Fri 19 Sep 08

Ohh you are back, I thought the men in white coats had caught you at last.
We must pick another story, its getting a little old this one. Your choice, ladies first.
"Frankly though my dear I don't give a ****."

Excalibur, Bromley says...
3:05pm Sat 20 Sep 08

Gypo, glad you enjoyed the blog on 'Sarah's Law - a step too far?'. My two subsequent ones may be of interest - I'm sure you'll slate me for the one on 'Manbags - a male necessity or a fashion faux-pas', but the one entitled 'Take care in the community' (about Mental Health issues) may be of interest to you, but then again you may perceive my views as being too liberal!

Gypo, says...
10:33pm Sun 21 Sep 08

Excalibur, whoever thought of Bromley as such a hotbed of liberalism ?

I never leave the house without my bag. :)

cassie, bromley says...
2:00am Wed 24 Sep 08

Gypo on 1:54am Fri 19 Sep 08 Ohh you are back

do try to grasp the very, very simple sequence...you are posting to me, i am replying ....so it's you that's 'back' :)

I thought the men in white coats had caught you at last

if only you could grasp the very, very simple sequence you'd see it is you the 'men in white coats' would be coming for

We must pick another story, its getting a little old this one

'we' didn't pick this one, you did, and it was 'a little old' from your first post to me, didn't bother you the next hundred times you repeated yourself either so don't see why you are suddenly concerned now

Your choice. ladies first

er no, you chose to post to me over and over and over and over again...it was your choice to behave as an extremely stupid bully so it's 'bullies first'

try taking responsibility for your own behaviour :)

"Frankly though my dear I don't give a ****."

but you obviously do though, you obviously can't bear getting back what you choose to dish out, you wouldn't have kept on and on and on and on otherwise

Gypo, says...
10:30pm Wed 24 Sep 08

Next !

cassie, bromley says...
10:43pm Wed 24 Sep 08

Next !

ohh you are back...

next?

Excalibur, Bromley says...
10:32pm Thu 25 Sep 08

Next......well next is my latest blog, which is entitled "Global warming....or Global con?". All comments welcome!

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