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10:51am Wednesday 28th May 2008
THE Sidcup bar where teenage actor Rob Knox was stabbed to death has had its drinks licence suspended for a week to "allow tensions to diminish."
Bexley police made an interim application for the temporary closure of the Metro Bar in Station Road, Sidcup, at a hastily convened emergency meeting of Bexley Council's licensing sub-committee at the civic offices in Bexleyheath Broadway last night.
When it reopens next Tuesday (June 2) the bar will have to abide by new licensing conditions.
These include the use of hand-held metal detectors on customers entering the bar, to check for weapons such as knives.
Mr Knox, aged 18, of Maidstone Road, Sidcup, was killed and five others were injured in the incident outside the bar.
In the interim application, presented by Bexley police's licensing officer PC Eddy Boston, police stated: "Police would suggest that alcohol, mixed with a young clientele, some of whom are underage, might have been a cause of this terrible tragedy."
The application continued: "As a result of the murder and woundings, tension is high throughout Sidcup.
"Police are of the opinion that if the premises were open to the public, it may be a flashpoint for further incidents of serious crime and disorder."
Other conditions imposed by the licensing sub-committee include the requirement for customers who look under the age of 25 to produce ID and a ban on the sale of alcohol if the bar's upgraded CCTV system is not in operation.
A full review of the licence will take place on June 20.
Karl Bishop, aged 21, of Beaver Lodge, Carlton Road, Sidcup, appeared before Bexley Magistrates Court yesterday, charged with the murder of Mr Knox and five charges of wounding with intent.
Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru, The Armchair says...
12:01pm Wed 28 May 08
A, says...
12:13pm Wed 28 May 08
S, Sidcup says...
1:05pm Wed 28 May 08
bb, Sidcup says...
1:07pm Wed 28 May 08
J***, London says...
1:07pm Wed 28 May 08
27, Sidcup says...
1:59pm Wed 28 May 08
Sidcup drinker, Sidcup says...
2:13pm Wed 28 May 08
Debbie, Bex;ley says...
2:27pm Wed 28 May 08
., Sidcup says...
3:21pm Wed 28 May 08
Debbie wrote:Debbie, closing the pub won't do anything. The idiots will just find somewhere else to cause trouble. The British Justice system is a shambles, so the Government needs to address that, to put these idiots off causing trouble. They just get a slap on the wrist and thats it. Also, the parents need to be educated on how to teach their kids respect for others.
This pub needs to be closed for good, my x-partner was bottled in this pub about 8 years ago when it was called the Iron Horse, the pub has always had a bad name for trouble, how can you give a pub back a license that has always had trouble around it!!! Wake up! how many more lives need to be taken before something is done!
Ali, Bromley says...
3:46pm Wed 28 May 08
Can Crusher, London says...
3:54pm Wed 28 May 08
me, Dartford says...
4:29pm Wed 28 May 08
anon, says...
4:50pm Wed 28 May 08
Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The Angry, The Study says...
4:51pm Wed 28 May 08
Reader, Of the News Shopper says...
4:51pm Wed 28 May 08
They should bring back hanging its what the scum who commit these sort of crimes deserve
Ellie, says...
5:23pm Wed 28 May 08
Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:I am surprised You know what the place is like ?
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
Agog, Kent says...
5:24pm Wed 28 May 08
Stop Scaremongering, Sidcup says...
5:29pm Wed 28 May 08
Steve, says...
7:12pm Wed 28 May 08
James, Staring in horror at this report says...
7:19pm Wed 28 May 08
Paul Evans, Sidcup says...
8:08pm Wed 28 May 08
Jo, St Pauls Cray says...
10:15pm Wed 28 May 08
Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:You are really getting on my nerves (you seem to not live in the real world) get a life and stop commenting on other peoples misfortunes (wake up ans smell the S''T)
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
name, here says...
10:18pm Wed 28 May 08
Jo, St pauls Cray says...
10:19pm Wed 28 May 08
Paul Evans wrote:You are another one let people grieve for pittens sake one day you may lose someone close to you and you may want to grieve where ever that person died (as for larking about they are teenagers) was you never a teenager !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Sidcup Local, Sidcup says...
10:47pm Wed 28 May 08
a mum, says...
10:48pm Wed 28 May 08
Tanya, Bexley says...
10:50pm Wed 28 May 08
Sue, Bromley says...
10:52pm Wed 28 May 08
Mark, says...
10:56pm Wed 28 May 08
Sidcup Local wrote:The vast marjority of people probably are paying their respects but you may well get a few people hanging around.
With out wishing to sound harsh Paul is correct, obviously there are people going to the site to grieve but there is also an element of youngsters going there because of the attention the area is receiving. This element is the same element that used to terrorise people waiting for the buses outside the Tesco by the stations and not true friends of relatives of the deceased.
Tom, says...
10:57pm Wed 28 May 08
a mum wrote:Agreed...if there are a few casuing problems or showing disrepect just ignore them but I know a lot of people of all ages are thinking of Rob and hais family.
Well said Jo! Let them grieve in their own way. For some of these youngsters it maybe the first experience of a death of a close friend and so tragically at that. The flowers and balloons, etc are doing no harm, they just show what a remarkable person Rob was and that he was much loved by all his friends. RIP Rob xxx
R.I.P ROB KNOXS, says...
1:32am Thu 29 May 08
Paul Evans wrote:DO YOU NOT HAVE A HART YOU SICK PERSON ALL THESES PEOPLE ARE GRIEVEING YOU IF THERE ARE LOADS OF PEOPLE THERE DOESNT IT SHOW HOW MUCH ROB WAS LOVED BY ALL I HOPE YOU FIND IT HARD TO SLEEP AT NITE YOU HARTLESS CREEP
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Sidcup Local, Local says...
6:42am Thu 29 May 08
Curious, says...
8:18am Thu 29 May 08
Mark Abbott, Sidcup says...
9:19am Thu 29 May 08
Paul Evans wrote:Well paul if you are a sidcup resident you are an heartless one. These teenagers are coming to terms with the death of a friend or acquaintance or just someone they recognised on the street - some cant belive it has happened - so sorry if a few balloons and flowers and hanging around annoys you well tough because in your area there have been 2 stabbings
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Sidcup Local, Local says...
9:31am Thu 29 May 08
anita, dartford says...
10:03am Thu 29 May 08
JS, Sidcup says...
10:18am Thu 29 May 08
PG, Sidcup says...
10:51am Thu 29 May 08
JS wrote:I agree. I wanted to go into Somerfield last night after getting off the train, and found it very intimidating. If Tesco's had been open, i would have gone there instead. There's 1.. yes only 1 community police officer standing there, yet there were at least 20 youths there. What good is 1 officer going to be if anything kicks off. It doesn't help that it is half term and they have no where to go. I agree with earlier comments. They've had their time to grieve. Time to let things get back to normal.
I Agree with Paul. Most of the people now hanging around are trouble makers. I have noticed some of the graffitiing and really not paying much respect. It does seem to be the place to hang around and cause trouble at the moment.... Move them along.......
not tonight gents, orpington says...
11:04am Thu 29 May 08
bb wrote:yes but door staff and pub managers are wise to tis and now days most door staff if they suspect the id will check it for the uv markings which is an excellent way of telling fakes so i dont think this would be the case
Just because under 25s are asked for ID, doesn\'t mean that the ID provided will be legitimate. You would be surprised at the extent of underage drinking in commercial premises, catered for by the wide availability of fake ID
not tonight gents, says...
11:12am Thu 29 May 08
Hannah wrote:make you totally 100 percent right if it was to shut they would appear in the portrait hogs head and ye olde black horse so closing it wont make any difference
90% of the clientele at the metro are lovely people. Unfortunatly you get the occasional scum bag like Kyle Bishop (who was not a regular)as does every pub!! closing the metro wont make any difference, the scum bags will still appear.
Lizzielooloo, says...
11:15am Thu 29 May 08
RASHERS, Bexley says...
11:21am Thu 29 May 08
pinky, chislehurst says...
11:23am Thu 29 May 08
Sidcup Local, Local says...
11:28am Thu 29 May 08
PG, Sidcup says...
12:57pm Thu 29 May 08
clare, sidcup says...
1:34pm Thu 29 May 08
george, sidcup says...
2:50pm Thu 29 May 08
Sue wrote:The doormen had barred this individual a week before and he was not allowed to enter the premises.You may want to ask why the police did not search him when told of him ?I.D checks are stringent at the metro bar but if someone has a brothers passport who is two years older,what do you suggest then ?Please do not believe all you read in the paper.
Why shouldn\'t the pub management take some of the responsibility for what happened? They employ bouncers for a reason. So if this thing charged with murder had been checked on the way in to the pub the knives may have been found? Also why are there underage people in there? Surely the management should take the responsibility for that. There are so many pubs/clubs in Bromley and surrounding areas that allow underage drinkers in I find it amazing that it\'s allowed to go on.
george, sidcup says...
2:57pm Thu 29 May 08
clare wrote:The police were called 30 minutes before it happened,dont believe all you read in the papers
The night Rob knox was killed there was rumours that men were coming down with knifes. Rob and his friends told the bouncers and they simply told them "not to worry." If they had done their job they would have called the police and Rob may still be here today. Something needs to be done fast, and if they had these detectors for knifes originally that would also have helped! I'm not going back to that place again.
george, sidcup says...
3:08pm Thu 29 May 08
Your Lord Erastus Theobald Piggott The All Knowing Guru wrote:Thanks for those costructive views !
Close the dive down for good, not just for a week. Let us hope it fails to get another licence in June. Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott
george, sidcup says...
3:22pm Thu 29 May 08
Steve wrote:the pub will comply and work with the council and policw forever !to try to make sure another tragic incident doesn't happen outside again
The pub will just comply with the conditions, for a while, then it'll be back to chaos as usual
Bill, Sidcup says...
4:53pm Thu 29 May 08
Don Logan, says...
5:28pm Thu 29 May 08
Sidcup Local, Local says...
7:04pm Thu 29 May 08
anniemac, sidcup says...
8:37pm Thu 29 May 08
mwah, dartford says...
12:01am Fri 30 May 08
Ali, Bromley says...
4:35pm Fri 30 May 08
GOD, UP ERE says...
12:05am Sun 1 Jun 08
Ali wrote:Mmmm, your views are worth reading you TW%T. The only thing worth anything is RIP ROB.
Why are all these comment about you lot!!! it suprises me how selfish most of u r!! im glad the youths are havin where he died its respect!! you was a teen ones! GET OVER IT your views dont count!! R I P ROB xxx
GOD, UP ERE says...
12:31am Tue 3 Jun 08
Mark, says...
4:40pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Paul Evans wrote:Rob's Mum/Dad and friends have spent the day taking some of the tributes and messages of support away from said area as memories of their son.
When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.
Sam, says...
4:54pm Tue 3 Jun 08
Tom, says...
10:45am Wed 4 Jun 08
Mark wrote:Going by the comments made in the latest article on here it seems some must have had a word with Rob's family and suggested that people had a problem with the tributes being laid outside Sommerfields which is sad and rather selfish I feel.
Paul Evans wrote: When can we expect the area around Somerfield to be cleared? They are not grieving, they are larking around, wanting the attention. Give Sidcup back to the residents, not the scooter riding low life.Rob's Mum/Dad and friends have spent the day taking some of the tributes and messages of support away from said area as memories of their son. Now you can get on with your life as you wish... Just hope you never have to do the same thing.
Fan of Metro Bar, Sidcup says...
3:13pm Thu 5 Jun 08
C*, Sidcup says...
2:03pm Wed 11 Jun 08
A, Sidcup says...
10:03pm Wed 11 Jun 08
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11:10am Wed 28 May 08