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12:18pm Wednesday 16th January 2008
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MEMBERS of the IVS gang - which murdered teenager Faridon Alizada belonged to - have spoken to News Shopper.
The teenager, who was also known as Fighterrr, was stabbed to death in Erith on January 5 - just four days after his 18th birthday.
Since his killing hundreds of comments have been posted on News Shopper's website condemning his gang lifestyle and branding the IVS gang as thugs.
Full name the Invincibles, IVS claims to have more than 100 members in the Bexley and north Kent area.
Members of the gang contacted News Shopper wanting to defend their friend - who they had known for three years - and to tell their own story.
Reporter Jon Cheetham met them and heard how they are in jobs and college, and trying to make something of their lives.
And they told him Mr Alizada had a bright future too, studying carpentry at Shooters Hill College.
Below is a copy of the conversation. The gang members wanted only to be called by their nicknames.
News Shopper: Was Fighterrr dealing drugs?
Brutal, aged 18: Fighterrr wasn't a drug dealer. He had so much love. People killed him thinking he had drugs.
Levelz, 18: He was visiting friends. He goes there to chill with his friends. But the flat was a crack den - the whole estate is.
News Shopper: Who was Fighterrr with when he died - where they members of IVS?
Vesk, 17: They were friends of his. They weren't in IVS but one of them is associated with IVS.
News Shopper: You have asked to be called only by your nicknames. Why do you use these names? Are they gang names?
Vesk: They are just names that stick with you. Other people started calling you it. They are not necessarily gang names. It depends on what your definition of a gang is.
Levelz: The definition of our group is a family.
News Shopper: But there is a negative side to this - like the violence. Do you get involved in fights?
Brutal: We only do things we have to do. If we are getting attacked we are going to back our friends.
Skamz, 21: We don't start things for no reason.
News Shopper: What about Fighterrr - his names suggests he liked to fight?
Brutal: He came through a lot.
They all agree.
Vesk: He was very proud and would fight for what he believed in.
Levelz: It's not meant literally.
News Shopper: What do you mean when you say he came through a lot?
Brutal: Fighterrr didn't get involved with things that had nothing to do with him. But in the area that we come from - Dartford, Welling and Sidcup - some people are racist.
Skamz: We are a multicultural group and that is the problem because we have people who are black and Asian.
Brutal: Other gangs team up on us because we have other colours. Some gangs like RA are racist. And they don't care they are racist.
News Shopper: What does the name RA stand for?
Brutal: Racial Attackers.
Skamz: If you are black and live in that area you can't turn around and say something because they will attack you.
Brutal: There are a lot more white people in our area. Why are we going to bully elderly people and little kids?
Vesk: We are in the wrong by fighting back but we are not going to run away.
News Shopper: Do you carry knives?
Vesk: People make assumptions about us saying we are fighters and walk around the streets with knives. None of us carry weapons or knives.
Brutal: We are not even a gang that is out for fighting. Every gang gets it when people start talking about how many people you have. As soon as you get a name for yourselves people want to get you. Adults don't understand that. They think you just want to fight and want to be hard but we don't boast about the things we do.
News Shopper: How many people are in IVS?
Vesk: It is in treble figures.
Snipzy, 18: We started as a small group but because people are suffering they come and join our group.
News Shopper: How did you become involved in IVS?
Vesk: It all started two years ago when I was young and wanted a name for myself and started a gang and then I changed as I grew older and realised life isn't about the streets and fighting. We have girlfriends and are learning to drive and move on with life.
Levelz: Most of us have jobs or go to college. We are all trying to get on. But maybe you want to go out somewhere but you can't go there because people hate you. If you go somewhere like Bexleyheath it is going to kick off. We just want to chill.
News Shopper: Do all the members of IVS feel the same way?
Skamz: I can't say every single member of IVS is like us because we have other members who want to prove something and they give us the bad image.
Brutal: There are some members who will possibly fight for no reason.
Skamz: We are the older line so we move how we move - the youngsters don't understand.
Brutal: They are out to be like us.
News Shopper: What will IVS do now that one of its members has been killed?
Skamz: If something happens - like this - we are hurt.
Vesk: I am a Muslim and I believe that Allah decides so if I get stabbed it is my time to go. I shed tears for Fighterrr - but I will not feel the pressure for him.
Brutal: Everyone here has shed tears for Fighterrr.
Levelz: I have cried for days.
Erastus, The Kitchen says...
1:06pm Wed 16 Jan 08
mt, says...
1:14pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, The Lounge says...
1:26pm Wed 16 Jan 08
anon, anon says...
1:35pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, The Bar says...
1:41pm Wed 16 Jan 08
mt, says...
1:42pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:well Erastus - with a name like that i should imagine you are from BC times you must be ancient. i do not vomit in the gutter-drinks far to pricey to waste. roll out the barrel...another oldie, so i take back my comment about BC you prob born in the 20's ? - and you talk about me being a has been !. i am used to your sarcastic drivel, all i am saying is i hope these 5 kids stick to the right path, get jobs/behave etc. thats all.
There is a big difference between a few old has-beens leaving the pub after too many light and bitters, singing Roll Out The Barrel and hugging one another before vomiting into the gutter and a large group of intimidating kids. I think you know that in your heart of hearts, mt. PS: nice to know you can still get out.
Erastus, The Sofa says...
1:47pm Wed 16 Jan 08
dmd, says...
1:48pm Wed 16 Jan 08
A MUM, Kent says...
1:49pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Concerned, Eltham says...
1:50pm Wed 16 Jan 08
mt, says...
1:52pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:a sentence starts after someone has been found guilty....and you my "old" chum are guilty of being completely. Anal.
Yes, I do come from BC times. Do you know what the BC stands for? BC = Before Crime. By the way, in future do you think you might remember that a sentence starts with a capital letter?
Erastus, The Sofa says...
1:54pm Wed 16 Jan 08
mt, says...
1:55pm Wed 16 Jan 08
A MUM wrote:thats what i'm trying to say, you can lead a better life. glad your boy has done well.
What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!
:-), London City says...
2:06pm Wed 16 Jan 08
A MUM wrote:Well said, I left school back in the 90's with E's and F's and I now have a well paid job working in the city. I have never been out of work, and I have earned what I have. Oh and I am from Thamesmead, so there is hope if given the right push by our parents and friends
What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!
Erastus, The Hall says...
2:11pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, The Library says...
2:27pm Wed 16 Jan 08
teacher, orpington says...
2:37pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:thought you had to start a sentence with a capital, you are a fool old boy
jp, would you mind concentrating your comments on the article and not on my goodself? Incidentally, your grammar is almost as bad as your spelling. I suppose you are one of those people who think that grammar is married to granpa.
anon, anon says...
2:45pm Wed 16 Jan 08
AP, London says...
3:19pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Suz, Erith says...
3:27pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Dont Worry, Bromley says...
3:41pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Jane, Orpington says...
3:50pm Wed 16 Jan 08
........, Downham says...
3:56pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Dont Worry wrote:You claim that you don't have a choice of course you do everybody has a choice on how to live their lives. Gangs or groups of boys hanging around the streets is intimidating to younger kids, old people and women why should people have to look over their shoulder all the time to hope that some thug is not going to walk up behind them and start.
Your all aduts and you sitting here arguing with each other over about what century you come from, its pathetic. Im 16 years old, you dont underrstand what its like at all you think 'oh no they have a choice' no they really dont, these are all nice boys. fair enough yes they fight but are you reallly telling me that when you was 16/17 you wasnt having fights? and yes they hang around on streets, but where else is there for them to go? There is nothing for us to do, we are not trying to be intimidating we just want to be around with our friends. R.A is actually worst than I.V.S will ever be, R.A are just a bunch of losers who are white, act black but hate black people and attack them ..now thats just pathetic. These boys have done this to try and show there side of the story and your still going on like a bunch of ediots. Your all going on like we live in some perfect land. Nothing is going to change this.
Jane, Orpington says...
4:00pm Wed 16 Jan 08
me here, bexley says...
4:03pm Wed 16 Jan 08
:-), London city says...
4:07pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Dont Worry wrote:I can say that at 16-17 I wasn't looking for a fight, I was too busy doing a YTS at a rather well know central bank. So what you say is not true, there is opportunities for you all out there you just need to stand up and look for something and not expect it handed to you on a silver platter. Also don't come saying 'you don't know what its like well I do. I lived in Thamesmead, poor GCSE grades, hung about with the wrong people when I was 12-15, but once I left school I got a life and left my childhood behind me. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Your all aduts and you sitting here arguing with each other over about what century you come from, its pathetic. Im 16 years old, you dont underrstand what its like at all you think 'oh no they have a choice' no they really dont, these are all nice boys. fair enough yes they fight but are you reallly telling me that when you was 16/17 you wasnt having fights? and yes they hang around on streets, but where else is there for them to go? There is nothing for us to do, we are not trying to be intimidating we just want to be around with our friends. R.A is actually worst than I.V.S will ever be, R.A are just a bunch of losers who are white, act black but hate black people and attack them ..now thats just pathetic. These boys have done this to try and show there side of the story and your still going on like a bunch of ediots. Your all going on like we live in some perfect land. Nothing is going to change this.
Erastus, The Classroom says...
4:11pm Wed 16 Jan 08
me here, bexley says...
4:15pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Me, At home says...
4:15pm Wed 16 Jan 08
:-) wrote:Well said cant agree with you more!
Dont Worry wrote: Your all aduts and you sitting here arguing with each other over about what century you come from, its pathetic. Im 16 years old, you dont underrstand what its like at all you think \'oh no they have a choice\' no they really dont, these are all nice boys. fair enough yes they fight but are you reallly telling me that when you was 16/17 you wasnt having fights? and yes they hang around on streets, but where else is there for them to go? There is nothing for us to do, we are not trying to be intimidating we just want to be around with our friends. R.A is actually worst than I.V.S will ever be, R.A are just a bunch of losers who are white, act black but hate black people and attack them ..now thats just pathetic. These boys have done this to try and show there side of the story and your still going on like a bunch of ediots. Your all going on like we live in some perfect land. Nothing is going to change this.I can say that at 16-17 I wasn\'t looking for a fight, I was too busy doing a YTS at a rather well know central bank. So what you say is not true, there is opportunities for you all out there you just need to stand up and look for something and not expect it handed to you on a silver platter. Also don\'t come saying \'you don\'t know what its like well I do. I lived in Thamesmead, poor GCSE grades, hung about with the wrong people when I was 12-15, but once I left school I got a life and left my childhood behind me. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For once in my life I was treated with respect and treated like an adult, same can not be said for these guy\'s as they are still in a gang
NOT TO KEEN ON ERASTUS, London says...
4:18pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:Stop bein a prat. you lead a sad and lonely life. Maye you should join these low lifes.
I will refrain from giving you all lessons in grammar, punctuation and spelling as it is quite obvious that all my previous instruction has been in vain. JP - I addressed you as jp because that is how you sign yourself. Jane - if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, love.
Erastus, The Conservatory says...
4:18pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Jane, Orpington says...
4:35pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Laura, Thamesmead says...
4:42pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Cant fool me IVS, says...
4:45pm Wed 16 Jan 08
LIES, Bexleyheath says...
4:49pm Wed 16 Jan 08
L, says...
4:51pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Dont Worry wrote:Sorry but you DO have a choice, lots of them. My 2 children were born and brought up in Thamesmead but the eldest (19) is now working hard at London Ambulance taking the 999 calls often from distressed people beaten up, shot, stabbed etc by these nasty gangs. He also gets abuse just for doing his job, why should he be threatened for asking the questions LAS need to know when sending an ambulance out to a case? He has been mugged locally too and he has NEVER been in trouble with the police. We do not have loads of money - I am a nurse and his Dad a records clerk. Why should other kids be any different?
Your all aduts and you sitting here arguing with each other over about what century you come from, its pathetic. Im 16 years old, you dont underrstand what its like at all you think 'oh no they have a choice' no they really dont, these are all nice boys. fair enough yes they fight but are you reallly telling me that when you was 16/17 you wasnt having fights? and yes they hang around on streets, but where else is there for them to go? There is nothing for us to do, we are not trying to be intimidating we just want to be around with our friends. R.A is actually worst than I.V.S will ever be, R.A are just a bunch of losers who are white, act black but hate black people and attack them ..now thats just pathetic. These boys have done this to try and show there side of the story and your still going on like a bunch of ediots. Your all going on like we live in some perfect land. Nothing is going to change this.
Kel, Abbey Wood says...
4:57pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Lav says...
4:58pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Friedrich Nietzsche, says...
4:59pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Wendy, Welling says...
4:59pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Tardis says...
5:02pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Jane, Orpington says...
5:12pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Jane, Orpington says...
5:14pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Armchair says...
5:14pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Sauna says...
5:17pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Donna, New Eltham says...
5:35pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Steam Room says...
5:42pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Massive, erith says...
5:49pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Donna, New Eltham says...
5:49pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Potato Couch says...
5:51pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Kitchen says...
5:52pm Wed 16 Jan 08
lou, says...
5:54pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:That would be fine if your English was up to scratch. Sadly as it is not.......
Why, thank you Donna for those kind words of encouragement. It seems I am building quite a fan-base. Just let me know when you would like to book-in for some English lessons.
a mum, abbey wood says...
5:55pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Library says...
5:56pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, The Hammock says...
5:57pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, My Club says...
6:04pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
6:08pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Carrot Couch says...
6:13pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus, Cloud 9 says...
6:25pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Pink Lounge says...
6:33pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Lew, orpington says...
6:36pm Wed 16 Jan 08
AP wrote:il explain i was there. ure mates i belive there was 2 of them? this was done fanny on the hill in welling and these two blokes who are about 18-22 walked past us and started staring at us. So weve asked them who r they? they replied no1 but my brothers RA init. And at the time RA where in the park looking for us so then one of them starts getting a bit lairy so he got banged for saying hes basically RA and if it was the other way around he'd join in if he was with loads of guys and one of there enemies was there.
LIES LIES LIES- Explain why they beat up my mate for leaving the pub and FIGHTTTTTTEEEEERRRRR was one of them!
temple hill boy, n/a says...
6:38pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Lew, says...
6:42pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Made me laugh, London says...
6:56pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Massive wrote:Yeah - he looks like Cartman from Southpark!
Love the fat white boy trying to be a 'dude'.
Hey chubby - If you want to look 'bad':
1. Less doughnuts!
2. More press ups!
3. Work in that haircut!
hypacrites, says...
7:02pm Wed 16 Jan 08
ohrfb, l;kfsdh says...
7:06pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:you are just a load of boreing old farts that think your special because of some spelling how doll,.; /'[ ;..;)-(
There you go forgetting that capital letter at the start of the sentence. Also, you should not have put a full-stop after 'completely'. It totally ruined the flow of your comments. Better luck next time.
kgh, here says...
7:09pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:grammer punctuation who care you boring person fullstop
I will refrain from giving you all lessons in grammar, punctuation and spelling as it is quite obvious that all my previous instruction has been in vain. JP - I addressed you as jp because that is how you sign yourself. Jane - if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, love.
Sarah, Erith says...
7:16pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Friedrich Nietzsche, says...
8:26pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Give them an Oscar !, says...
8:29pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, On Mrs Piggott's Lap says...
8:38pm Wed 16 Jan 08
mark, deptford says...
8:41pm Wed 16 Jan 08
British bulldog NZS, says...
8:46pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Friedrich Nietzsche, says...
8:48pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:How very dare you!
Dear Friedrich. Please let me assure you that I have not been making the slightest bit of trouble but am sad to say that an imposter is trying to make my life 'uncomfortable'. I do so hope the imposter is not you, dear boy.
mum kent, says...
8:48pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:Loving the comments Erastus,keep them coming its the highlight of my day.Anyone that has a problem with them dont read or reply to them...............
Dear Friedrich. Please let me assure you that I have not been making the slightest bit of trouble but am sad to say that an imposter is trying to make my life \'uncomfortable\'. I do so hope the imposter is not you, dear boy.
TINY RASKAL!! Y.G.B, new cross says...
8:49pm Wed 16 Jan 08
SLUER IVS AND??, DEPTFORD PLUMSTEAD says...
9:29pm Wed 16 Jan 08
TINY RASKAL!! Y.G.B wrote:AHAHAHAH **** THE FAKES.
fighter tryed to stab me a few weeks ago just gose to show what gos around comes back roundand he was a drug dealer try make out he was a good boy get out of here you fools
Jenniefar, Orpington says...
9:38pm Wed 16 Jan 08
local, erith says...
10:10pm Wed 16 Jan 08
LEwiss IVS, says...
10:20pm Wed 16 Jan 08
A MUM wrote:ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!
local, erith says...
10:29pm Wed 16 Jan 08
anon, says...
10:39pm Wed 16 Jan 08
LEwiss IVS wrote:How would you know? At the end of the day no excuse for attacking anyone, if he did or said something why can't people be grown up and ignore them? Sticks and stones....... Oh and if "IVS" do not go to Danson, how come yoy were there
A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
lou, says...
10:40pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:Your point is?
Lou, 'People in glasshouses ...' I hope you know the rest.
Adrian wishing people would just GROW UP, Welling says...
10:42pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Jenniefar wrote:So you can justify IVS beating up innocent people coming out of the pub like my friend?! He wasn't racist in fact he was a black guy minding his own business having a laugh with his mates. Some people are very quick to call the race card. Hey yes there is a gang called RA. But that don't mean all on this page are the same. How come all my mates have never come across RA? I have black, aisan, chinese and white mates that go to Woolwich, Thamesmead, Bexleyheath, Welling, Lewisham, Dartford and more. GROW UP BEFORE YOU CALL THE RACE CARD!! It may have started with Race but hasen't continued with it. They have brought all this on themselves!
Its funny how IVS are being bad mouth, and i peraonaly think it is because of the race of people in it. Have you spoke about RA? (Rasist attackers) The boys that go around bexleyheath beating up people that are of a different race to them. Its obvious to many of us that IVS want to grow out of this 'gang' but they cant. Once you get a reputation it is hard to get rid of. I Have been there and done that. Although i am still only wrong i have reasied wha is right and wrong, and hae been through my street ratting days and got off the streets. But for these boys it is hard because they do try and move on in life, but they cant because of the gangs that hate them. Its mainly adults who are signing this, but you dont know what it is like to be a teenager these days. You think we all go round beating eachother up and fighting, we don't. We fight to protect areselfs. If someone hit you, you wouldn't just stand there and do nothing, weather your a teen or not. I think that alot of you adults are rasist yourselfs, you say that Fighterrr was bad and its good to see him gone. If this happened to a English boy you would be feeling sorry for them, but because he is a different race to us you think you can bad mouth him. Yes Fighterrr wasa friend of mine, and he will be missed ALOT. Im not just sticking up for him, but its what i belive in. You adults need to open your eyes and you will realise that your children are probably in a gang as well. But it would be apreciated if you could stop bad mouthing someone you didnt even no. Your all giving him this reputation, your making him sound worse than he was. Fighter was a lovley caring boy, and he looked out for us. Most of you that sign this obviously dont realise what it is like to loose a friend/family member. Fighterrr did mean alot to me and he alwayz will. Rest In Peaceee Babyeee.
FLOW, Right Now Gravesend says...
10:59pm Wed 16 Jan 08
FLOW, Right Now Gravesend says...
11:08pm Wed 16 Jan 08
MUM, Kent says...
1:50am Thu 17 Jan 08
LEwiss IVS wrote:oh little gobby boy we knew who it was cos when they come round in their van, they soon went running with their tail between their legs, it will take a lot more than a few little plastic gangsters to get us shacking in our shoes, ive never been intimidated in my life and i aint going to start now.
A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
demi, at home says...
2:16am Thu 17 Jan 08
anon wrote:my thoughts exactly!!! so your telling us IVS dont go to Bexleheath so why was you there ? was you A UNDER COVER INVINCIBLE SOLDIER ?PMSL. GET A LIFE ...GET A JOB!!! PAY YA TAXES LIKE THE REST OF US (BUM)
LEwiss IVS wrote:How would you know? At the end of the day no excuse for attacking anyone, if he did or said something why can't people be grown up and ignore them? Sticks and stones....... Oh and if "IVS" do not go to Danson, how come yoy were thereA MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
Demi, S.E says...
3:19am Thu 17 Jan 08
DEMI, Eltham says...
3:34am Thu 17 Jan 08
FLOW wrote:NO YOUR PARENTS SET YOUR STANARDS AND TONE. SO DONT BLAME OTHER PEOPLE ...YOUR PARENTS BOUGHT YOU UP NOT US!!!!
I'm ex i.v.s, dont run with gangs no more. Never the less wat makes all you people think your in any place to judge the youth of today, how bout we give you all a hoddie and some tracksuit bottems and see how long you last on the roads these days. Clothes dont make the person, yes when a group of youth come roaming towards you the first thing majority of you will do is grab hold of your phone. But why isit that if we are complient with watever bullshit your telling us were just teenagers, the second we show defience were yobs. Media blaming the problem of this **** up country on teenagers isnt right. Why dont you start blamling mayors and councill man, the people that can make a diffrence, rather then a bunch of teenagers just looking to defend them selfs. Being of ex i.v.s i can tell you for nothing we dont mug/rape and watever else that person said, people brought the fight to us, we never went looking. I dont run with i.v.s anymore, i can hold a decent convosation with any member of the public and i know when to be flow and when to be jae (jae being my real name), speaking in proper english and writing in proper english doesnt mean anything, because i still talk mojority of the time in slang. People leve us alone, you wannah blame someone, blame yourselfs, we didnt creat the world we live in, you were here first, you set the standard, you set the tone, we just follow it. Just pay your respect to Fighterrr (r.i.p family) and leve i.v.s alone!
Bernard ex SAS, says...
3:54am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, Shower says...
7:46am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, Garage says...
7:50am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Drive says...
7:51am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Loft says...
8:29am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Roof says...
8:32am Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), London City says...
8:33am Thu 17 Jan 08
lol, bexleyheath says...
8:59am Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
9:31am Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
9:38am Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:I do not have kids, as I am trying to work hard to get the money together to give them a better start in life than I had, and if I did, I would install old fashioned virtues into them. Respect elders, honesty, friendship, learn to say no and not go back on it. I mean this is what my mum taught me, and now I am a respected member of my community, a valued staff member and most of all, I can listen without prejudice, just ask anyone who knows me.
RIP MATE NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE NO MATTER WAT THEY DO WOULD U FEEL THE SAME ABOUT YOUR SON IF HE DONE SOMETHING RONG? WOULD U WANT IM TO DIE .. NO WUN DESERVES WHAT HE GOT IF HE WAS THAT BAD HE WOULD BE IN PRISION.. ALL THE ADULTS UR SAD SITTING HERE GETIN INVOLVED BET YA UR KIDS ARE IN CREWS HU AINT THESE DAIS..
..Ronni, Welling says...
9:40am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Bathroom says...
9:43am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Office says...
9:56am Thu 17 Jan 08
Laura, Thamesmead says...
10:01am Thu 17 Jan 08
Friedrich Nietzsche, says...
10:22am Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
10:22am Thu 17 Jan 08
Louise, bexley says...
10:31am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Lounge says...
10:32am Thu 17 Jan 08
me here, bexley says...
10:34am Thu 17 Jan 08
reader, bexleyheath says...
11:23am Thu 17 Jan 08
me here wrote:I also can't beieve this paper is given the gang such lime light, when it all kicks of because of all the backlash of this! i do hope you will pick up the bodys, because these kids are all scum and had you reported them in the past you would have known, they come into the bexley area all ganged up i seen this with my own eyes and beat the **** out of 1 boy on his own now tell me they are good boys i for one as a aduit will not bother to read this paper again it just making the youths build up to one hell of a fight in my eyes and i do hope that the police are reading it too! take all their names and watch this space they are muggers, they DO USE WEAPENS on other people and you let these scum has their say well your sick..
I cant believe the newsshopper has give these thugs the coverage they wanted,its only to big them selfs up.They are a waste of time and space. Before long we will probably be reading about another one of these yobs either they have had their life taken or taken someone elses.They are nothing but scum the lot of them.
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
11:26am Thu 17 Jan 08
Friedrich Nietzsche, says...
11:27am Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Gazebo says...
11:33am Thu 17 Jan 08
Reader, DARTFORD says...
11:40am Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:Dear Mr IVS BOOP BOOP,
DID U KNO HIM? NO SO WHY EVEN START PUTTING UR OPINION TOWARDS SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW AND EVEN THE MORE SO NOW THEY CANT STICK UP FOR THEMSELVES, WHY TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY YOU SAY UR GNA TEACH YOUR KIDS RITE FROM WRONG BUT THERES DISTRACTIONS AND PEOPLE AROUND THAT WILL LEAD THEM THE OTHER WAY, NO ONES PERFECT WHAT YOU HEAR ARE RUMOURS HOW CAN YOU PROVE THEIR RIGHT? YOU CANT!
:-), london City says...
11:42am Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
11:44am Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
11:56am Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
12:07pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
12:08pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Reader wrote:im a miss actually
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote: DID U KNO HIM? NO SO WHY EVEN START PUTTING UR OPINION TOWARDS SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW AND EVEN THE MORE SO NOW THEY CANT STICK UP FOR THEMSELVES, WHY TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY YOU SAY UR GNA TEACH YOUR KIDS RITE FROM WRONG BUT THERES DISTRACTIONS AND PEOPLE AROUND THAT WILL LEAD THEM THE OTHER WAY, NO ONES PERFECT WHAT YOU HEAR ARE RUMOURS HOW CAN YOU PROVE THEIR RIGHT? YOU CANT!Dear Mr IVS BOOP BOOP, Now with your kid help and this newspaper I can now go the Bexleyheath Police station.
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
12:13pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-) wrote:Ive never been a member i just put it in my title im in higher education and i knew fighter but did i go and follow his ways? im just being a friend just as i would expect others to be for me. e may have hurt people
IVS BOOP BOOP Where do you see me getting on my high-horse? And I do like conversing with you, you are stating one view, I am stating another view, thats what makes this country tick, different opinions; if everyone had the same opinion do you not think it would be boring? I truly am sorry for your loss, as I have said in another post, but the fact still remains that the guys video above is trying to portray fighterr as this nice never hurt no one kind of guy, whereas YouTube and victims of his actions have proven otherwise. I applaud your dedication to the memory of him. All I am saying is that friendship can often blind people to what is really going on. Can I also ask what you are doing with your life now? And are you still a member of IVS? Plus thanks for clearing up the Boop boop issue, I thought it meant something
., Dartford says...
12:22pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
12:24pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
12:24pm Thu 17 Jan 08
MUM wrote:yeah hes not gobby hes putting his point across which you have the right to too, but calling him offensive names is going to far DONT DO IT
LEwiss IVS wrote:oh little gobby boy we knew who it was cos when they come round in their van, they soon went running with their tail between their legs, it will take a lot more than a few little plastic gangsters to get us shacking in our shoes, ive never been intimidated in my life and i aint going to start now. all you boys go on about is if a gang want to start on us, then we are going to retaliate, all i was trying to point out is my son wasn\'t in a gang, he was with his girlfriend at a fun fair, and i don\'t care where that was he should be able to do that without being jumped. his far from stupid, he is nearly 6ft and done boxing all his life and he give as good as he got, thank god. he can hold his own but he don\'t go round bulling, and intimidating people. his at work earning a nice few quid, what you doing bully boy? pushing drugs? who\'s the idiot?, yea maybe my son is, going to work to keep your lazy druggy bully arse.A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
IVS BOOP BOOP, dartford says...
12:28pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-) wrote:no i dont agree with it, but fighter never murdered or put life threatening force on any one all the time i knew him. i dont need a reality check thankyou, being a straight a student i do know whats right and wrong and how to achieve what i desire in life, yet still accepting others at the same time
IVS BOOP BOOP I am glad that you think of him so highly and that you are defending him to the last. And I do not know if you went and followed his ways, as I do not know you from Adam, you are putting a case forward intellectually, which I would assume you didnt go down that route. So are you saying that happy slapping is right? And that the victim is never hurt? Say for instance the victim had medical issues, and that 1 happy slap would have killed them, are you saying this is right? Even if the potential victim was a healthy person, would it hurt them? What happens if that person was to turn around and hit back? Would IVS jump on him? Just because he is protecting himself? No violence is right, and if you think that the odd happy slap is ok, then I am sorry, you to need a reality check, would you like it if I done it to you? Or to one of the other members if they were by themselves?
Me, Here says...
12:29pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
12:32pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP, DARTFORD says...
12:33pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me wrote:You know where the 'x' button is.
oh shut up boop boop you berk - you are driving me mad!!
ivs boop boop, dartford says...
12:37pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:look at you thinking your gonna be pm.. pfft. if you cant take ONE view you wont pass as a pm mate
Me wrote: oh shut up boop boop you berk - you are driving me mad!!You know where the \'x\' button is.
Erastus, The Police Station says...
12:45pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Rodney, Cray says...
12:46pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
12:50pm Thu 17 Jan 08
ivs boop boop, dartford says...
12:51pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Rodney wrote:Fair point. im not in ivs it may sound daft but my friend named my title taking the mick and if i change it now people on here wont know who i am.. which emphasises having a gang like name or belonging to one you are les likely to be accepted which is a point i just proved you think im a nasty person, when im not you think im not following the right path when i am, im in a grammar school succeeding but still trying to understand why people don't accept my friend. if you have nothing nice to say dont quote me please.
Two great examples of self delusion here. The murdered fellas friends kidding theirselves that that happy slapping and the like is only minor violence and is quite harmless. And, more worryingly, this Erastus who seems to me to be of the viewpoint that he/she is amusing. To the gang members and their friends I offer this advice - the moment you cease to adopt the attitude that everyone is against you, and you refuse to take umbrage at what others might say, is the day when you are in control of your own life, and you can follow your own path. If I met any of you one on one you I believe you would all be nice people, it\'s just the gang mentality that roughs the edges a bit. When you look in the mirror you know full well that beating people up and intimidating people is a fools game. Bullies only bully to validate their own sense of worth.
Bashir, Welling says...
12:51pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Bath says...
12:53pm Thu 17 Jan 08
ivs boop boop, dartford says...
12:54pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-) wrote:i didnt say you werent accepting others i said i was.
IVS BOOP BOOP Straight A student, that is good, and I am pleased you have focus, but to quote you is a happy slap really that violent yeah its not nice but the person is still alive arnt they? that would show the intent that you think it would be ok to happy slap someone because that would be alive at the end of it? well I have stated what could have happened, and yet you mask over that comment. As I have stated NO violence should be condoned no matter how small or how feeble it is. Did fighterr ever carry any weapons as other people have suggested? If he did (even a stick) this is potentially using life threatening force. Who ever said I am not accepting of others? I work in a multicultural office, I have Americans, South Africans, Indians, I myself was not born in this country (and yes I am white), so it would be hypocritical of me, if I were not accepting of others. I dont mind other races, nationalities, ages; its these people that make life interesting, looking at other people, speaking with people who have differing views of the world. So please do not imply that I am not accepting of others, I am merely stating my opinion on the evidence I have seen and nothing more. man like dromah I have not called you that at all I asked for what you said as I couldnt read it which I still cant I am just getting the gist of what you are saying, Anyway up until this saga I have never heard of RA or IVS or anyone like that so if they thought they were well known, sadly you were not that well known
Lauren/LadySkamz, Dartford says...
1:01pm Thu 17 Jan 08
:-), london City says...
1:03pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Chair says...
1:10pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, Settee says...
1:16pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
1:25pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:I accept your offer Erastus. i think we should start by giving you a title, i think you will agree that "Sir" Erastus has quite a ring to it.......
Unfortunately, someone with very little imagination is impersonating me. If you read remarks by Erastus putting myself down, you will know it is the imposter. Me, Here: I would like to appoint you my campaign manager!
Bashir, Welling says...
1:27pm Thu 17 Jan 08
stop it now, not bexley thank god ! says...
1:30pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Bashir, Welling says...
1:33pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The garden says...
1:36pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
1:42pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Bashir, Welling says...
1:42pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Bashir, Welling says...
1:51pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Bashir, Welling says...
1:53pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Gunshop says...
2:04pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
2:04pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Aimeyy., Dartford says...
2:08pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Rico, says...
2:11pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Duncan, Sidcup says...
2:30pm Thu 17 Jan 08
L, says...
2:37pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:If that is your feeling about "Happy slapping" and you say you are in further Education then there really is no hope!!
:-) wrote: IVS BOOP BOOP Where do you see me getting on my high-horse? And I do like conversing with you, you are stating one view, I am stating another view, thats what makes this country tick, different opinions; if everyone had the same opinion do you not think it would be boring? I truly am sorry for your loss, as I have said in another post, but the fact still remains that the guys video above is trying to portray fighterr as this nice never hurt no one kind of guy, whereas YouTube and victims of his actions have proven otherwise. I applaud your dedication to the memory of him. All I am saying is that friendship can often blind people to what is really going on. Can I also ask what you are doing with your life now? And are you still a member of IVS? Plus thanks for clearing up the Boop boop issue, I thought it meant somethingIve never been a member i just put it in my title im in higher education and i knew fighter but did i go and follow his ways? im just being a friend just as i would expect others to be for me. e may have hurt people is a 'happy slap' really that violent yeah its not nice but the person is still alive arnt they? I put 'ivs boop boop' as id rather stay anon ty
Me, Here says...
2:38pm Thu 17 Jan 08
EMMARR, gravesend says...
2:42pm Thu 17 Jan 08
LOU, BEXLEY says...
2:44pm Thu 17 Jan 08
ME, Charlton says...
2:58pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Sammmm, Bexleyheath says...
3:13pm Thu 17 Jan 08
A MUM wrote:You are saying about you son getting mugged and that at danson fair and getting mugged by "black mugs" but you are saying it as if you are having ago at these boys?? Was it them though? No!
What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!
Lou, Bexley says...
3:53pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
4:04pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lou wrote:ha ha ha ha well said Lou. Marry me?
Hahaha "SKAMMZ" calm down with the capitals ;). Why do there need to be 10 ethnics in RA to make them not racist??? Keza isnt white, and one of the 1st top boys of RA was indian so stop chatting rubbish. Yea most of RA are racist but they dont call themself racist attak loool, every one of u ethnics thinks any boy that jams in welling bexleyheath eltham erith belvedere is RA "OI BLUD U RA" And have u ever wondered as to why people are racist???? have you actually looked at yourselfs, the way u act, the way you are, most people would be ashamed to say you was there race, the same as allah would be ashamed of fighter, drug dealing, fighting, swearing, and what not. U need to grow up nowonder people start on u prats
karen, says...
4:05pm Thu 17 Jan 08
MUM, Kent says...
4:08pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:Emmm read your mates post! Who started with the name calling? Dont give it if you cant take it. Im a mum with 2 kids and Ive got a little scam bag calling me a idiot, see thats what I mean my kids would NEVER talk to an adult like that YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO RESPECT NOT FOR ANYONE
MUM wrote:yeah hes not gobby hes putting his point across which you have the right to too, but calling him offensive names is going to far DONT DO ITLEwiss IVS wrote:oh little gobby boy we knew who it was cos when they come round in their van, they soon went running with their tail between their legs, it will take a lot more than a few little plastic gangsters to get us shacking in our shoes, ive never been intimidated in my life and i aint going to start now. all you boys go on about is if a gang want to start on us, then we are going to retaliate, all i was trying to point out is my son wasn\'t in a gang, he was with his girlfriend at a fun fair, and i don\'t care where that was he should be able to do that without being jumped. his far from stupid, he is nearly 6ft and done boxing all his life and he give as good as he got, thank god. he can hold his own but he don\'t go round bulling, and intimidating people. his at work earning a nice few quid, what you doing bully boy? pushing drugs? who\'s the idiot?, yea maybe my son is, going to work to keep your lazy druggy bully arse.A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
Erastus, The Club says...
4:09pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Behrang, Slade Green says...
4:20pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lou, Bexley says...
4:20pm Thu 17 Jan 08
A MUM, Kent says...
4:23pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Sammmm wrote:Ivs is a gang is it not? YES and all these gangs are the same, they all walk about trying to find an easy target to kick the sh*t out of just for fun NICE BOYS THOUGH AINT THAY? And are you telling me that ivs as NEVER jumped someone lol dont make me laugh ha ha ha
A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!You are saying about you son getting mugged and that at danson fair and getting mugged by "black mugs" but you are saying it as if you are having ago at these boys?? Was it them though? No! And listen to what they said about they are all in college! DOING SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIVES!
Maria, says...
4:28pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Matty, North West Kent says...
4:29pm Thu 17 Jan 08
........, SE London says...
4:29pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, Leather Armchair says...
4:41pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Demi, Eltham says...
4:42pm Thu 17 Jan 08
IVS BOOP BOOP wrote:He should get used to it cos if he stays in these gangs his going to get a lot worse than name calling and with his gob his going to finish up where fighter is. so tell him DONT DO IT ...DONT JOIN THE GANGS...AND GROW UP
MUM wrote:yeah hes not gobby hes putting his point across which you have the right to too, but calling him offensive names is going to far DONT DO ITLEwiss IVS wrote:oh little gobby boy we knew who it was cos when they come round in their van, they soon went running with their tail between their legs, it will take a lot more than a few little plastic gangsters to get us shacking in our shoes, ive never been intimidated in my life and i aint going to start now. all you boys go on about is if a gang want to start on us, then we are going to retaliate, all i was trying to point out is my son wasn\'t in a gang, he was with his girlfriend at a fun fair, and i don\'t care where that was he should be able to do that without being jumped. his far from stupid, he is nearly 6ft and done boxing all his life and he give as good as he got, thank god. he can hold his own but he don\'t go round bulling, and intimidating people. his at work earning a nice few quid, what you doing bully boy? pushing drugs? who\'s the idiot?, yea maybe my son is, going to work to keep your lazy druggy bully arse.A MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!ure an idiot if ure son got beat up in danson das in bexleyheath and ivs dont go bexleyheath danson is full of ra i was there at that festival so really ure slagging off the people that use 2 fight the bullies that beat ure son. there the equivelant 2 ure son gathering a few blokes 2 sort out the people who jumped him. except we aint blokes where the same age if not younger den them and i honestly doubt he got jumped and chased in a van for no reason he must have done something.
Erastus, The Bar says...
4:43pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus, The Couch says...
4:46pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Elldotstahh, says...
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Me, Here says...
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Behrang, Slade Green says...
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Erastus T. Piggott, The Bar says...
4:52pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
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Erastus T. Piggott, In the Rolls says...
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Erastus T. Piggott, The Bathroom says...
5:05pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Louise, bexley says...
5:06pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Elldotstahh wrote:"elldotstahh" Hahahahaha your another joke you little ****! crawl back out of "vesk snipzy and scamz" bum cracks, do u seriously think dey like U loool dey just tryna get into ur nikas, if they havent done so already u little runt. good person was he??? think ur the only person that thinks that, oh and hes 2 bob crew of course
IVS all day. What that are saying isnt BS actually. Fighter was a good person. R.I.P Babe. Love u vesk,snipzy and skamz =) xxx
Demi, Eltham says...
5:07pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lionel wrote:Yea Ginger Cringer.AKA Brutal. i agree with all Lionel said. and would like to add IF YOUR MUM WANTED A BLACK BOY , SHE WOULD HAVE MARRIED A BLACK MAN..so do ya self a favour talk properly
Brutal - when you look at yourself on the video, do you cringe with shame when you hear yourself talking? I know I would if I were you. Have you forgotten your own roots? Do your parents speak like that? Got no problem with your mates talking like that as they are obviously from west indian heritage, but you my friend are a white, ginger male who tries to talk like a yardie. A right shower of sh1t if you don't mind me saying so.
Behrang, Slade Green says...
5:13pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lou, bexley says...
5:24pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Railway Tavern says...
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Sophie, Erith says...
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rob, London says...
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Maria wrote:Shut up you cretin.
rite i know ppl in RA n dey aint racist trust me dey beat ppl up coz dey chat stuff down da fone n dat n dey called RED ALERT not racial attakers of w.e crap u said n fighterrr woz a drug addick he tried sellin my m8 weed bout 3 weeks ago so dnt start saying he woz a nice lad n w.e coz he werent n also he woz ganna stab my m8 coz he thought he woz in RA well he werent n wont be but my other m8s r n will beat da crap out of ppl who chat crap
Erastus T. Piggott, The Off Licence says...
5:51pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Barn says...
6:26pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Podium says...
6:38pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Sarah Cullen, Swanley Village says...
6:38pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:Get a job.
May I be so bold as to assume that the current long silence indicates that my comments have educated you all to the extent that nothing more needs to be said?
Leigh, Blackheath says...
6:45pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Couch says...
6:50pm Thu 17 Jan 08
se, ere says...
6:54pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Bashir wrote:what dss benefits that says it all
I came here from Afghanistan three years ago because of the benefits but I would never allow any of my 5 sons to become members of gangs.
Clair, Charlton says...
6:57pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Anon, yeah says...
7:02pm Thu 17 Jan 08
h, h says...
7:02pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott, The Chemist says...
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Erastus T. Piggott, The Lounger says...
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Erastus T. Piggott, The Carrot Couch says...
7:22pm Thu 17 Jan 08
h, h says...
7:23pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Erastus T. Piggott wrote:
It is me that are disparaging, h. Poor souls.
quoteo its you there talking about you need to get a life sado go join a gang
Sammmm., Bexleyheath says...
7:25pm Thu 17 Jan 08
A MUM wrote:Did I say it wasn't a gang>? Ermm No! Learn to read what people write before you comment back! Idiot
Sammmm wrote:Ivs is a gang is it not? YES and all these gangs are the same, they all walk about trying to find an easy target to kick the sh*t out of just for fun NICE BOYS THOUGH AINT THAY? And are you telling me that ivs as NEVER jumped someone lol dont make me laugh ha ha haA MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!You are saying about you son getting mugged and that at danson fair and getting mugged by \"black mugs\" but you are saying it as if you are having ago at these boys?? Was it them though? No! And listen to what they said about they are all in college! DOING SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIVES!
Lord Erastus T. Piggott, The Dining Room says...
7:31pm Thu 17 Jan 08
h, h says...
7:42pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lord Erastus T. Piggott wrote:Lets just hope you forget to come back
Oh well, people of no imagination. It is time for me to repast. But for a few, you have consistently proved that you are lower on the food chain than I. I bid you all goodnight and hope that the forthcoming night will refresh your stale minds and that in the morning, when you are refreshed, you will be literate, spontaneous and a little more 'interesting'. Night, night. Mind the bugs don't bite. Your Lord, Erastus T. Piggott.
Kerry, Home says...
8:09pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Sammmm. wrote:So where did she say it was ivs???? So get off your high horse IDIOT! READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT! DONT READ BETWEEN THE LINES READ WHAT THE LADY WROTE!
A MUM wrote:Did I say it wasn't a gang>? Ermm No! Learn to read what people write before you comment back! IdiotSammmm wrote:Ivs is a gang is it not? YES and all these gangs are the same, they all walk about trying to find an easy target to kick the sh*t out of just for fun NICE BOYS THOUGH AINT THAY? And are you telling me that ivs as NEVER jumped someone lol dont make me laugh ha ha haA MUM wrote: What aloud of crap! You say He was a nice boy, your all trying to came across like your nice boys (bullsh*t) in the video one of you say your son comes home about half 12 yeah with a black eye yeah, what was he doing out that late, why did you let him out that late, WELL let me tell you, my sons is 18, he went to the fun fair in damson park with hes girlfriend of 2 years, he got jumped by about 12 mugs for no reason at all, that was around 8 oclock in the evening, did he ask for that? NO he didnt, was in in a gang? NO he wasnt, then we had a van load of mugs looking for him, they was driving pass my house, the oldest one in the back of the van was 28 years old ha ha ha BIG MEN! I think NOT. My son should be able to go where he likes and at what time he likes and be safe. Then he got robed of hes phone by 8 black mugs, he was out walking our dog, they followed him into a shop and tried to beat him over the head with glass jars they picked up from the counter in the shop, did he ask for that too? NO HE NEVER! My son left school last year, in hes exams hes got Es & Fs but I told him it dont matter you tried your best, and as long as my son gives me hes best im happy, I told him DONT BE THE DOSSER SITING ON THE STREET CONER WITH A CAN OF BEER IN YOUR HEAD, .BE THE ONE DRIVING PASS IN A NICE CAR THAT YOU WORKED HARD FOR, he as always remembered me saying that to him. He got a job as soon as he left school and is doing well. SO IF HE CAN DO IT WITH EXAM RESULTS LIKE THAT, THAN YOU ALL CAN, GET OFF YOUR BACKSIDE AND DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFES!You are saying about you son getting mugged and that at danson fair and getting mugged by \"black mugs\" but you are saying it as if you are having ago at these boys?? Was it them though? No! And listen to what they said about they are all in college! DOING SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIVES!
mum kent, says...
8:35pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Lord Erastus T. Piggott wrote:make sure your back tomorrow,love your comments high light of my day.people just cant keep up thats why they getting angry.night
Oh well, people of no imagination. It is time for me to repast. But for a few, you have consistently proved that you are lower on the food chain than I. I bid you all goodnight and hope that the forthcoming night will refresh your stale minds and that in the morning, when you are refreshed, you will be literate, spontaneous and a little more 'interesting'. Night, night. Mind the bugs don't bite. Your Lord, Erastus T. Piggott.
HENRY, SIDCUP says...
10:16pm Thu 17 Jan 08
HENRY, SE10 says...
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average person bexleyheath, bexleyheath says...
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average person bexleyheath, bexleyheath says...
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E Piggott, The Kitchen says...
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Sarah Cullen, SWanley Village says...
7:41am Fri 18 Jan 08
E Piggott wrote:This creep got up in the night for a glass of milk and is SO SAD that he needed to turn his PC on and visit this forum!
Just up for a glass of milk and a tinkle.
Thanks for your kind words, mum.
I will be back tomorrow to give you all further lessons.
Your Lord, Sir Erastus T. Piggott.
Your Lord, Sir Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Breakfast Room says...
8:09am Fri 18 Jan 08
Your Lord, Erastus Theobald Piggott, The Bathroom says...
8:50am Fri 18 Jan 08
boot camp, Bexley says...
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Erastus, The Conservatory says...
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Me, Here says...
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Sir Erastus, The Dressing Room says...
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Sir Erastus, The Drawing Room says...
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me, home says...
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Barbie, Dartford says...
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Sir Erastus, The Classroom says...
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Sir Erastus, The Office says...
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anita, Dartford says...
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Derek, Welling says...
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Vicky, Darford says...
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Barbie =], Dartford says...
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Derek, Welling says...
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Sir Erastus, Church says...
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Vicky, Dartford says...
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Vicky, Dartford says...
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Barbie =], Dartford says...
12:38pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Derek, Welling says...
12:43pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Me, Here says...
12:45pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Vicky wrote:Zip it Pollard.
Excuse me, just because she put her name as 'Barbie' doesn't mean a thing. Maybe she doesn't want to leave her real name, which is her decision entirely not yours! :) Everyone has trouble with other people, it's life. How do you know she doesn't have a kid? She might have brothers and sisters but you don't know do you so hush your gums. :)
Anon, Dartford says...
12:48pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Vicky, Dartford says...
12:50pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Vicky, Dartford says...
12:51pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Me wrote:How about no ?
Vicky wrote: Excuse me, just because she put her name as \'Barbie\' doesn\'t mean a thing. Maybe she doesn\'t want to leave her real name, which is her decision entirely not yours! :) Everyone has trouble with other people, it\'s life. How do you know she doesn\'t have a kid? She might have brothers and sisters but you don\'t know do you so hush your gums. :)Zip it Pollard. If you dont like what he said sling your hook.
Derek, Welling says...
12:55pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Vicky, Dartford says...
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Derek, Welling says...
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SHUTUPDEREK, LONDON says...
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Derek, Welling says...
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Vicky, Dartford says...
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Derek, Welling says...
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anon, london says...
1:57pm Fri 18 Jan 08
me wrote:yeah ra do have black people in there, but they are racist towards muslims!
i like the way every asumes ra r racist i no ra very well im not a member of them but i do no racist means i dont like any1 that is not from ur culture so if RA r racist why do they have black members. RA r alot of things but racist is NOT 1 of them
Erastus, The Bar says...
2:20pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Your Lord, Sir Erastus Piggott, The Bar says...
2:34pm Fri 18 Jan 08
mt, says...
3:22pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Sir Erastus wrote:told u you was anal. by the way you seem to be on here 24 hours a day. no life, no friends except for "me,here" which i am sure is you. How sad. by the way how do you know primark customers are scummy? been there yourself have you ?.
Indeed, Mr Me, that is such a splendid idea. I hope you will join me in my repast. Unfortunately, Mrs Piggott will be at her chiropodist's having her corns attended to. She will be so disappointed that she missed you. Walk round the back way when you get here. I will leave the back door open.
mt, says...
1:02pm Wed 16 Jan 08