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Clips of murdered teenager on YouTube

3:04pm Tuesday 8th January 2008

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MURDERED teenager Faridon Alizada made videos of himself happy slapping people and fighting before posting them on the internet.

The 18-year-old, who was also known by the nickname Fighterrr, was a member of a gang of teenagers who call themselves IVS and posted videos of their exploits on YouTube.

However, police say they do not think his murder was gang-related.

The video clips on YouTube featuring the murdered youth are called Fighterrr and are numbered from one to 15.

Most of the clips feature him talking to camera, posturing and bragging to camera in the style of a gangster rapper.

In some clips he smokes and attempts to break wooden planks and bricks with his hands.

One clip - Fighterrr6 - shows him fighting another youth in a piece of farce that ends with him trying to pull down the boy's tracksuit trousers.

Fighterrr8 includes a voiceover saying "happy slap TV", and shows Mr Alizada running up to a boy playing football in the park and hitting him in the head.

In a clip that features the group of youths calling themselves IVS riding on the top of a bus, Mr Alizada - aka Fighterrr - is mentioned by name and makes a gun gesture at the camera with his hand.

Other clips of the IVS gang show them involved in fights with other groups of youths.

The initals IVS apparently stand for Invincible Soldiers.

One of the brawls takes place at a bus stop in which most of the people involved are wearing school uniform and another happens in a park.

Mr Alizada, who came to the area from Afghanistan, was a pupil at Abbey Wood School, Eynsham Drive, Abbey Wood, until July 2006.

Headteacher Susan Harry said: "We are distressed to learn the sad news about Faridon, an ex-pupil, and regret that his life has been so tragically cut short.

"Our deepest sympathy and thoughts are with his family at this time."


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Lauren, says...
3:40pm Tue 8 Jan 08

He was a well nice boy ? NOT.

K, says...
3:54pm Tue 8 Jan 08

what goes around comes around. sorry but i have no sympathy.

Sunny, London says...
3:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Serves the kid right, lets see if it has a positive result to the cocky little street boys who think it is smart to be intimidating. KARMA always gets you in the end!

J, London says...
4:16pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Lauren wrote:
He was a well nice boy ? NOT.
Have to agree with you! I'm a teenager myself & i don't understand most teenagers these days, All they want to do is act like animals.

Rodney, pauls cray says...
4:21pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Misguided rather than evil.

Everybody has potential - some choose the wrong path. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

The ReV, Erith says...
5:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08

"Judge not, lest ye be judged"
er..Nope.
A person is judged by their actions but then we can swap pith comments till the cows come home.
If you want to play at being a "big boy" then your going to get hurt. It's harder to be a man than it is to just posturing and bully.
Zero sympathy, zero tolerance and zero point to his existance.
Where was his parents?

Anon, Belvedere says...
5:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08

to be honest "fighta" was known to be a foolin scum and was never loved by anyone around the whole of bexley, i remember when i saw him on my own and all he was up 4 is a fight. he's just another discrace to this country and his home country and once again tax payers money was spent on this mug. i guarentee if loads of yungsters were asked about fighta there would be known to be hatred for the boy, in my opinion i fink he was a failure and should never be remember, i do feel for his family. theres only one gang known in bexley and thats that.

Harry, Gravesend says...
5:23pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Feel sorry for ths lad at 18 I was a bit of a tear away. It's only as you get older you wise up. At 18 your not fully aware of the world and all it offers. I suppose it's the environment that makes people the way they are and act. I was very lucky and had my familiy to set me right other do not havers others to look out for them. Rest in peace.

Harry, Bromley says...
5:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08

The ReV wrote:
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Judge not, lest ye be judged\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" er..Nope. A person is judged by their actions but then we can swap pith comments till the cows come home. If you want to play at being a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"big boy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" then your going to get hurt. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s harder to be a man than it is to just posturing and bully. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance and zero point to his existance. Where was his parents?
Maybe his parents let him down - so that's his fault right? When I saw the videos I was struck by the giggling sycophantic cameraman, and also the false bravado of the boy himself. Whilst I think he probably was a lowlife I still feel uneasy at people like you so quick to judge. Is there not potential in everyone?

Amanda Huggankiss, Ben dover avenue says...
5:58pm Tue 8 Jan 08

The kid was a bully he has done alot of bad things. i feel sorry for his family perhapes they didnt no what he was up to, but at the end of the day thers alwys someone tuffer out ther, and it was kind of obvious something like this was going to happen when your constantly pushing people around and srapping i hope the over incest soljiers learn from this

sarah, says...
6:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08

No sympathy from me im afraid - im fed up of the chavs roamin erith with nothing better to do than take crack and be menaes to society. Its like the boys who were released from jail after stoning that poor guy - they are now being little sods and think they are big for what they done - lock them up along with all the other scum. I used to live in Larner road and left 5 years ago, when i lived there we didnt have any crack dens etc - now orbit have moved all the probational degenerates and pedos on the estate and its just going to get worst. there was another stabbing by the chip shop there last night - and it was a girl.. says it all really

Mrs Cross, Dunton Green says...
7:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08

I HAVE 3 BOYS WHO ATTEND THE WILDERNESSE SCHOOL IN SEVENOAKS.
LAST YEAR THIS SO CALLED GANG TURNED UP AT THE SCHOOL AND BEAT UP SOME OF THE PUPILS.
THERE IS A CLIP OF IT ON YOUTUBE, THIS IS HOW LOW THIS GANG IS, THEY EVEN FILM IT AND THEN PUT IT ON THE INTERNET.
AS I MOTHER I WOULD NOT WANT ANY CHILD TO DIE, EVEN THIS LAD. I FEEL SO SORRY FOR HIS FAMILY. I AM SURE HIS FATHER HAD NO IDEA WHAT HIS SON WAS GETTING UP TO.
YOU CAN DRESS THIS UP ALL YOU WANT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY WERE AND STILL ARE A GANG WHO BULLY PEOPLE AND MAKE PEOPLES LIVES HELL.

James, London says...
8:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Just one question for all you that have posted comments, WHICH ONE OF YOU ARE GOD? a human being as been killed by someone, be it that they where good or bad someone has killed him and all you can say is that he deserves it. NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE I feel sorry for you all and to what this country is becoming.

a mum, erith says...
8:48pm Tue 8 Jan 08

maybe if his mother and father brought him up to know right from wrong he would still be alive today to many parents let kid do what they like when they reach 16 and leave school i have brought up 2 sons and 1 daughter and my rules were while you live under my roof you do as i say, if of a night thay had nowere to go they didnt go out, they was not hanging the streets, i may have been hard but at least i still have my childre, thank god.

Lozziee, says...
8:53pm Tue 8 Jan 08

No matter what, Fraidon dont deservee all the hate youu people are posting on here! aint you got anything better to do other then hate on someone thats died ?
You wouldnt of said it to him when he was alive so why say it now?
your just proving how sad and pathetic youu are! Grow up and get a lifee
RIP Fighter
Another Fallen Soldier </3 x

Local, says...
9:01pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Natures way of cleansing the gene pool. !

..., says...
9:08pm Tue 8 Jan 08

have some bloody respect ... the boy just died he may not have been a saint but no one deserves to die ... if it was somone related to you and you found out they done the same i bet you would not be saying this ...you people are pathetic

??, charlton says...
9:09pm Tue 8 Jan 08

...this lad went to the same skool as me and i dont remember him being very nice in skool either...

but i dont wish that on someone...eva

RIP FIGHTERRR

h8in lozzie, says...
9:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08

b quiet lozzie. all u did waz bum lick im. u didnt even no im

Roanne, says...
9:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08

what are you saying that he deserves to die... have you got no respect...he has just been killed at the age of 18...no matter what he done if he was good or bad no one deserves to die...it is so horrible that you people can sit there and be glad that things like this happen...i don't know who is worse to be honest with you. You people talking about bringing your children up. when you were young i bet you didnt tell your parents half the stuff you done whos to say your children aren't out there doing the same. You Are All Just As Bad.. Rest In Peace Fighter You Will Never Be Forgotten..****

km, Etith says...
9:26pm Tue 8 Jan 08

He went to my college and nobody is sad that he is gone. Thats such a sad way to be remembered. Sad that such crime takes place in eirht too.

Lozziee, says...
9:33pm Tue 8 Jan 08

OMG! Shupp bout all diss be quiet !
youu just cant handle the fact that im right and your bloody rong!.. bum lik im ? yeye rightt dhenn.. no mate your just a heartless pafetic little person that jams at the computer 24/7 hating on someone thats just died and that you noe cant fight back!
Haha you wouldnt of said anything to him and you know it !
so just go away cos
RIP Fighter x

ravjeet, abbeywood says...
9:44pm Tue 8 Jan 08

R.I.P FIGHTER.. U WILL B MISSD.. DIS BOY WENT MY COLLEGE N NOT ONCE E SED ANYTING BAD TO ME..(w) ****

paul, abbey wood says...
9:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08

yet another big man dies .lozzie why call him a fallen soldier when hes anything but .its bad that he died but if hes been pulling stunts like those on you tube what do you expect.theres always someone bigger and badder out there waiting to get you.when these kids learn that this might stop

paul, abbey wood says...
9:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Lozziee wrote:
No matter what, Fraidon dont deservee all the hate youu people are posting on here! aint you got anything better to do other then hate on someone thats died ? You wouldnt of said it to him when he was alive so why say it now? your just proving how sad and pathetic youu are! Grow up and get a lifee RIP Fighter Another Fallen Soldier </3 x
for christ's sake learn to spell

Matt, 248-923 says...
10:09pm Tue 8 Jan 08

It never surprises me that these stories are always followed up by comments from do gooders! I expect that they are all speaking from a privileged position where they have never been on the receiving end of a nasty thug. If they had been given a kicking in the street by a gang for fun they I expect they would have a different opinion!

David, Kent says...
10:22pm Tue 8 Jan 08

What goes around comes around... its a shame that someone lost their life but it shows how many scumbags there are about these days.

Why are people calling this kid a soldier? He was nothing but a bully who probably deserved a good slap... obviously someone has gone too far but happy slapping was probably the first or a long line of assualts this kid was going to carry out... I blame todays society and the parents its kids bringing up kids! R.I.P

......, se2 says...
10:24pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Thank God this scum is off the streets, stop making him sound like he didn't deserve to die, cos he DID!!

Rodney, plumstead says...
10:36pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Someones been charged - end of.

?*?, says...
10:42pm Tue 8 Jan 08

i went to the college fighter went 2 n you no wt i dont get??
most of the clips on youtube where filmed there. where the **** were the teachers? wot did they do 2 stop them? nuffin. no wonder they gt away wiv it.

J, LONDON says...
10:50pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Newsshopper should up-grade their shop-a-yob campaign to shop-a- violent-thug who terrorises our streets campaign.

cassie, bromley says...
10:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08

j, good idea!

paul, se2 says...
11:07pm Tue 8 Jan 08

J wrote:
Newsshopper should up-grade their shop-a-yob campaign to shop-a- violent-thug who terrorises our streets campaign.
i second that

Paul, says...
11:13pm Tue 8 Jan 08

J wrote:
Newsshopper should up-grade their shop-a-yob campaign to shop-a- violent-thug who terrorises our streets campaign.
Thats a good idea.

What do you think Newshopper ?
How about a page to collect the names and photos of gangs ?

I could list most of the members of IVS

Mum of 4, Thamesmead says...
11:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Lozziee wrote:
OMG! Shupp bout all diss be quiet ! youu just cant handle the fact that im right and your bloody rong!.. bum lik im ? yeye rightt dhenn.. no mate your just a heartless pafetic little person that jams at the computer 24/7 hating on someone thats just died and that you noe cant fight back! Haha you wouldnt of said anything to him and you know it ! so just go away cos RIP Fighter x
Are you a small child or have you never attended school? Your spelling and grammer is appalling I could hardly read a word of your sad attempt to condone that animals behavior. Sickening! (you sound like Vicky Pollard)
Sadly you are a prime example of todays youth....ill educated and ignorant!

Although I don't condone peolple who go around with knives and guns etc it sounds to me like for once it wasn't a poor innocent victim who was murded, much like the ones he went round attacking is this one less potential murderer off the streets???
Also where are the comments from his family condeming the negative comments or did they washed their hands of him?
How sad that an 18 year old isn't going to be missed.

Joe, Thamesmead says...
11:24pm Tue 8 Jan 08

James wrote:
Just one question for all you that have posted comments, WHICH ONE OF YOU ARE GOD? a human being as been killed by someone, be it that they where good or bad someone has killed him and all you can say is that he deserves it. NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE I feel sorry for you all and to what this country is becoming.
None of us are god! not even these gang members who belive they are! it is a waste of human life. People chose their path in life and this lad along with many others chose to be in a gang that brags about stabbing and shooting people (look on you tube) it is true that what goes around comes around. Things will only get worse until people are accountable for their actions. He chose to threaten and bully other people so it came back to him. Whilst like I say its a waste of human life I will not be losing any sleep over it. Im sick of these thugs running riot on the streets...send them all to island with their waepons and there hard man attitude and let them fight it out between them. Erith and the rest of the country will be a better place without them

t, erith says...
11:25pm Tue 8 Jan 08

just deport them some people do deserve to die thats a FACT looks like he was 1 of them

J, LONDON says...
11:28pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Yes i think the newsshopper could play a more pro-active role using cctv to get more violent thugs off our streets.
Shop-a-yob was a good idea stopping kids vandalizing buses but there is so much violence in our society-on our streets and that should be our first priority.

Sammy, Bexleyheath says...
11:32pm Tue 8 Jan 08

Yes he chose the wrong path in life, but he has died now as a consequence of some of his actions, why can't you just let that be.
And you all go on about tax and deporting them for god sake if you have that much of a problem with it write to people in authority not on the news shopper website.
Everyone get off you high horses none of you can say you have not done bad things in life, you all think you are prim and proper well take a good look in the mirror. He has died now just let him be.

damion, hel says...
11:32pm Tue 8 Jan 08

how about shop a pervert instead let the yobs kill each other

Ben, Kent says...
11:44pm Tue 8 Jan 08

mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED

go back to school

J, LONDON says...
11:47pm Tue 8 Jan 08

The YOBS will attack anyone vunerable like someone said it could be your mother father son daughter this is why we need to take them off our streets.
They don't keep to in-fighting unfortunately...

me lol, somewere round but not with him says...
11:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08

ha ha ha ha the scum has gone thank **** he was a **** low life bully and done nothing but speak **** now hes gone the world will b 1 person better off

Clifford Etter, Orpington says...
12:01am Wed 9 Jan 08

He Gave it .......He Took it ....What Goes around Comes Around ....Good Riddance !

Jacqueline Alleyne, Catford says...
12:12am Wed 9 Jan 08

Eventhough he was bad, which a lot of teenagers are, and sometimes grow out of it. I still dont think he deserves too die. He is somebodys child. I wouldn't wish it on anyone's child. RIP Faridon, eventhough I dont know you, but I have children too. My condolences go out to your family

Wazpy, says...
12:18am Wed 9 Jan 08

Whoever killed him did the world a favor.

Good riddace to bad rubbish.

mum of 4, Thamesmead says...
12:18am Wed 9 Jan 08

Ben wrote:
mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to school
Thakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn't notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody's perfect

DZYER, says...
12:19am Wed 9 Jan 08

for all of u heartless 1s out there .. get to no the boy like i did den leave comments.. all goin on bout wah goes around comes around none of u no anything... ul all sad individuals hidin bhind a computer... i promise u this if u said that about my mate in front of me...:@ well lets jus say u will be wanting to retract ur statement... all of u lot need to learn that life is wah u make it... nd for any 1 that did no, will agree with me when i say that he was a truely great friend so all of u that wana hate nd wah not fink again, fink for his family and frineds ur all heartless

Rest In Peace Bruver

J, LONDON says...
12:27am Wed 9 Jan 08

He seemed heartless to others when he used violence should his victims show concern?

Cousin's friend, says...
12:29am Wed 9 Jan 08

This young man is dead, prematuredly. His family is suffering, though I doubt that they know about his antics on YouTube or his (alleged)gang activities. Your judgement of him is just too harsh.

Lewis, kent says...
12:29am Wed 9 Jan 08

oi you lot dat have no sympathy can go **** yourselves. end of the day he was a kid 18, u saying u where perfect when u was a kid? u never smoked? never had a fight? dont fink so..
rip fraidon xxx


MOBZ, south says...
12:33am Wed 9 Jan 08

dont see how you can all hate and play god..weve all done things we regret ...all u adults dont no wot lifes lyk for teens these days ..u sit here and tlk bout one ov my pals lyk hes stil alive to defend himself ..ivs or not..hoodlem or not..who has the right to procliam weather its rite or not for sumome to die ..specially that way ..think ov his family an friends lyk me bfore u write hateful stuff...rest in peace bro ..IVS

J, LONDON says...
12:34am Wed 9 Jan 08

Those things you say he done wrong..how would you feel if someone held a knife to you, your family would you feel that was ok?

Wazpy, says...
12:41am Wed 9 Jan 08

"...all u adults dont no wot lifes lyk for teens these days .."

I'll bet it's pretty bad with lowlifes like Fighterrr around.

If more peope like him were snuffed out then life might be a bit better for young people and everyone else.

J, LONDON says...
12:41am Wed 9 Jan 08

When did he regret his actions?
The 1st time? 2nd time?
I would like to know how you would feel if it was one of your family that was threatened.Would you still feel the same?

Wazpy, says...
12:48am Wed 9 Jan 08

I guess the wannabe thugs who call themselves Invincible Soldiers will now have to change their name because you're not invincible. Nobody is invincible.

If you keep up the fighting and harassment then even more of you will die.

J, LONDON says...
12:51am Wed 9 Jan 08

No please answer me-would you feel the same if he had threatened your family in the street?
I understand he also threatened people for no reason.
Would you feel the same if some stranger had been violent to a member of your family?
I am not asking nastily,i am asking your opinion.

DZYER IVS RIP FIGHTERRR, says...
12:54am Wed 9 Jan 08

mum of 4 wrote:
Ben wrote:
mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to school
Thakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn\'t notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody\'s perfect
OU STILL SPELL WRONG LOVE SO PLEASE SHUT UP OF IS SPELT WITH 1 F

BRUTAL IVS, says...
12:54am Wed 9 Jan 08

R.I.P FIGHTER EVERY1 LOVES N MISSES U FAM... EVERY1 SIGNING THIS WHO DIDN NO HIM DONT NO WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT... HE CARED FOR HIS FRENDS WUD ALWAYS STICK BY YOU... R.I.P FIGHTER

BRUTAL VESK TWISTER FIGHTER SKAMZ SNIPZY LEVELZ VILE PRESHA TRIMZ SOEK DZYER DONE NABZ MOBS SLUER HYPER SCALLY PHAINZER OLD SCHOOL IVS...

Ben, kent says...
1:00am Wed 9 Jan 08

People who are saying what if he held knifes up to your family etc well yeah ok he was bad to do that and it was wrong but like someone said above it was only a stupid little crew called 'r.a' he had fights with it wernt innocent people so get your facts straight + the only reason he had fights with them was because they are racist and obviously him being from another country wouldnt find it appropriate that someone was raciualy abusing him, which is fair enough because none of you would stand for it either. Na it aint easy for teenagers these days, they have to go through alot of stuff you 'adults' dont know about. He didnt deserve to be taken so young and ok he may have been into drugs etc as some of the articals state but that still dont mean he should have been killed, it was a ruthless brutal attack on an innocent person and if you say different then that basicaly means your condoling murder. He may have done wrong etc but he was only sticking up for himself and if you knew what 'r.a' where like then you would actualy agree with why there where so many fights with him and them. All the 'adults' posting vulgar abussive messages towards him should realise he was only 18 << EIGHTEEN >> teenager yes, not an adult (because ur not classed as one until ur 20). People should have some heart, yea you say he was this and that but what if it was your little boy who got stabbed, your friend, your brother, your cousin, your nephew? you would be devastated, so stop being so close minded and thing out of your little boxes. There are many nasty people out there like rapists but i dont see none of you saying how bad they are etc all i see is people being rude and discriminating against someone who can no longer stand up for himself. News shopper shouldnt of ever let people write comments on here, you should be able to express your oppinion but think before you write, think of all the people who loved him and depended on him, think of his parents and family they must be devistated. Before you write think first because if it happend to you it would be a complete and utter different story. Na you may not class him as souljah but to youth these days souljah means someone who no matter what happend to them always got back up and carried on fighting. Much love to his family + friends. R.I.P Fraiden x

BILL, eltham says...
1:04am Wed 9 Jan 08

THE SOONER SCUM LIKE HIM DIE THE BETTER.

Wazpy, says...
1:07am Wed 9 Jan 08

"Na it aint easy for teenagers these days, they have to go through alot of stuff you 'adults' dont know about."

Why do teenagers have to go through all of that stuff that you're talking about?

Isn't it precisely because of people like Fighterr who cause trouble for others?

Hopefully more people like him will meet the same fate.

JIM, says...
1:10am Wed 9 Jan 08

GOOD RIDDANCE..HE'S DEAD HE JUST ANOTHER 1 OF THESE LITTLE PUNKS WHO GO ROUND LATE AT NIGHT TRYIN 2 STAB PEOPLE AND TAKE MONEY..HE ONLY PROBALY DONE IT 2 IMPRESS HIS MATES.. AND MAKE THE GIRLS FINK HE WAS A BADBOI.. I HATED THIS ****..HE WAS A SILLY PATHETIC BULLY..
ROT IN HELL
F.I.G.H.T.E.R
WUN UP X

Lewis, Orpington says...
1:12am Wed 9 Jan 08

jus gotta back up on what Ben said. he didnt pick on kids for no reason just the racist kids that jumped him. get your facts straight. NEWSHOPPER THERES TWO SIDES TOO EVERY STORY. I suggest you get all the facts before you start insulting kids who are dead and who cant stand up forthemselves. this is why who ever rote this article works for the news shopper haha you wouldnt get this at REAL newspapers you cant call yourself a journalist. get down the job centre and SIGN ON.
Rip Fighterrr
Ivss We werent a low life gang we just stuck up for ourselves against those racist punks from erith, north heath and bexleyheath. Just because we had the bottle to stand up to them were seen as bullies. Anyway for the record IVS stopped about a 6 munths ago most of the people init have grown up out of it and unfortunatley fraidon didnt get out when he did. Rest in peace though. only god can judge. whether its jesus or allah, you adults on here have no right to judge him you didnt even know the boy.
Rest In Peace Fighterr Never forgotten.
****

Ben, kent says...
1:25am Wed 9 Jan 08

People who are saying what if he held knifes up to your family etc well yeah ok he was bad to do that and it was wrong but like someone said above it was only a stupid little crew called 'r.a' he had fights with it wernt innocent people so get your facts straight + the only reason he had fights with them was because they are racist and obviously him being from another country wouldnt find it appropriate that someone was raciualy abusing him, which is fair enough because none of you would stand for it either. Na it aint easy for teenagers these days, they have to go through alot of stuff you 'adults' dont know about. He didnt deserve to be taken so young and ok he may have been into drugs etc as some of the articals state but that still dont mean he should have been killed, it was a ruthless brutal attack on an innocent person and if you say different then that basicaly means your condoling murder. He may have done wrong etc but he was only sticking up for himself and if you knew what 'r.a' where like then you would actualy agree with why there where so many fights with him and them. All the 'adults' posting vulgar abussive messages towards him should realise he was only 18 << EIGHTEEN >> teenager yes, not an adult (because ur not classed as one until ur 20). People should have some heart, yea you say he was this and that but what if it was your little boy who got stabbed, your friend, your brother, your cousin, your nephew? you would be devastated, so stop being so close minded and thing out of your little boxes. There are many nasty people out there like rapists but i dont see none of you saying how bad they are etc all i see is people being rude and discriminating against someone who can no longer stand up for himself. News shopper shouldnt of ever let people write comments on here, you should be able to express your oppinion but think before you write, think of all the people who loved him and depended on him, think of his parents and family they must be devistated. Before you write think first because if it happend to you it would be a complete and utter different story. Na you may not class him as souljah but to youth these days souljah means someone who no matter what happend to them always got back up and carried on fighting. Much love to his family + friends. R.I.P Fraiden x

Jim shut up please (: your annoying and noone cares about your oppinion, he beefed you for some reason obviously and no preshar wont be the one whos going to die next, he has commen sence (:

jim, erith says...
1:29am Wed 9 Jan 08

all am sayin is tht this kid fought he was all tht. and fought he was cool 2start beef wid people...i was a victim 2 it.. when he started on me but he should oflistened 2 tht famous quote.
"every dog has it's day"
and more and more teenagers are gettin stabbed..so u should all listen..or do u wanna die..

anon, london says...
1:41am Wed 9 Jan 08

These are two different opinions don't treat everyone as enemies.

Cynical, earth says...
2:37am Wed 9 Jan 08

It says it all about presharrrrr and his I.P ADDRESS

lewis, Orpington says...
3:14am Wed 9 Jan 08

Lauren wrote:
He was a well nice boy ? NOT.
look if it means dat much 2 u i reported it. i dint realize it sed **** about killin wen i sent it so chill. n i aint stirred any hate up theres enuf hate here he rote dat out of hate the first comment. u gotta understand presha n fighter where like brothers picture some1 sayin dat about ure brother ud be **** 2 like b4 if dat affended u or ne1 apologies but loook at all thhe coments sayin he deserved 2 die

katie, kent says...
3:24am Wed 9 Jan 08

I personaly think that all the people saying fighter deserved it are wrong, he didnt sure he may have done wrong in life but who hasnt?! and im sure if he was alive today he could tell you that yeah he regrets somethings he's done but doesnt every humanbeing?!.
I dont think any of you have the right to judge him, you can judge someone you dont know right?!, and now all of you saying stuff about preshar, pretty silly. He's sticking up for his mate wel infact his best mate, its a hard point in his life atm he's just lost someone he spent most of his life with, have some compassion or the guy!
I'm sure if it was your son or your best friend then it would be a whole different story because it always is, preshar + fighter where and are not yutes, yes they where in a gang but the only fights they used to have where with a RACIST gang and if im honest if i was a bloke i would do the exact same if someone came up to me and raciualy abussed me i would have serious words with them etc, so not one of you can say either of them hold/held knifes up to innocent people because the people they had fights with are hardly innocent and have a bad reputation as a gang and are also known for beating women. So may i just say before you class yourselfs as judge jury and executioner put yourself in thier shoes, feel how it feels to be racialy abussed and taunted i certainly know that not one of you would like it. Every single one of you should have compassion for all the people who lost fraiden as a friend or a boyfriend a family member because if you have had someone die it doesnt feel very nice, what if fraidens mum and dad read this? its going to make them feel utterly crud about thier son who they totaly adored, so people please think about the way you talk about a young man before posting it because you could be breaking hearts with your words and ill mindedness. Fraiden was obviously a great friend to lots and will be dearly loved and missed, all the people saying it was bound to happen and your glad scum like that is off the earth, your basicaly condolling MURDER and that makes you worse than the people who done it, it makes you lower than a racist lower than a rapist it makes you utter scum. So i say you digg a little deep show some compassion for the people grieving and let them be, let him be also. He cannot defend himself against you lot (i can only describe you as a pack of dogs) he's dead, does it make you happy to bully someone whos no longer with us?! if so that makes you a pretty pathetic adult. There are many troubled teenagers out there who use drugs etc but that is because they have problems and if people like you actualy took a few mins out of your day to hear a few problems you'd realise how hard we have it, you dont see what we go through. I think its also utterly wrong that this **** newspaper would put comment boxes at the end of this for people to obviously be so vicious and attack someone so young. He made mistakes but we all do that, i know i have made plenty but to wish death on anyone is utterly discusting can you lot honeslty put your hand on your heart and say you've never made one single mistake?! if you can then your a complete liar. Fraiden lost his life so soon he wasnt even a adult yet but he was taken ok he may have been misguided by others but sometimes its just the hand we are delt, he obviously was a good bloke deep down and deserves a good name not a blackend name by you hypocrits. Think of his mum think of his dad think of his brothers/sisters, his friends you cant even imagine the grief they are feeling the hurt they are feeling so dont even try to comprohend any of it. if you say your glad he's dead you basicaly murderd him, if you wish that upon someone why not just wish a war on he world?! its vicious and nothing but a attack on someone. Fraiden you will be dearly missed by your friends + family. And i do hope that noone trys to seek revenge for his death because that would put you low aswel, it should show you all that theres more to life than what your doing you should take his death as a sign a tradigy and turn ur lifes around, show all the nasty people out there that your better than they will ever be. This is all i have to say. R.I.P <3

PRESHARRR, woolwich says...
3:24am Wed 9 Jan 08

look all ave gotta say is dat all u lot r heartless am tellin u d boi did rong fngs but so have i ave been stabbed b4 4 no reason i dnt care but u lot juss cozz he mite ave done rong fings soon as he dies u lot get a boner i seriously dnt now how u lot can do dat even if ma worst enemy died i wud still show respect u lot dnt realise dat u r talking bad about a dead person but its kool doe memba wah goes around comes around rip ma boi 4 life till the next 1 aswell

Cynical, earth says...
3:40am Wed 9 Jan 08

I know some of the comments on here are not so good.
An 18 year old has had his life brutally taken away but did he not stop and think before he attacked others?
No one deserves to have their life taken away,especialy at such a young age but he shouldn't have made life hell for other people.
He seemed to thrive on violence and maybe he should have got out of that life but he chose not to.

lenny, welling says...
4:03am Wed 9 Jan 08

he is dead good riddance 2 him... i aint gona lose sleep over his death.... not my problem that he is dead.. am out.

Cynical, earth says...
4:15am Wed 9 Jan 08

I don't know about GOOD RIDDANCE he's not a murdering scumbag.Leave it to convicted scum murderers,then i'd say good riddance.

mr immagrant, - says...
7:26am Wed 9 Jan 08

GOOD RIDDANCE SCUMBAG. YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVE. REST OF YOU HODDIE SCUM, WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH. YOU ALL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!!! LEAVE ALL YOU RUBBISH IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY

Erastus Piggott, The Altar says...
8:06am Wed 9 Jan 08

Hip hip hooray. Now this piece of crap has been dispatched, let's hope a few more will follow. Happy slappy? Not so happy now are you sonny?

Erastus, Bed says...
8:11am Wed 9 Jan 08

To Harry in Gravesend. Harry, you go on like you are Rocky and have hung your gloves up after a glorious career. I wonder how many lives you affected when you were a 'tearaway'? Let's just be grateful that this latest 'tearaway' had his career cut short before he ended some innocent person's life. Rest in peace? Rot in Hell!!

Cece, says...
9:06am Wed 9 Jan 08

Lozziee wrote:
No matter what, Fraidon dont deservee all the hate youu people are posting on here! aint you got anything better to do other then hate on someone thats died ? You wouldnt of said it to him when he was alive so why say it now? your just proving how sad and pathetic youu are! Grow up and get a lifee RIP Fighter Another Fallen Soldier </3 x
I so agree with you. I've known fighter for time & he is a cool guy. Your all wrong for sayin that he deserves to die, at the end of the day nobody deserves what happend 2 him. People who sign this & agree that he does are worthless & OBVIOUSLY don't no who he really was
RIP Fighter
Another Falleb Soldier
Always Gone Never Forgotten </3

Mum, Abbey Wood says...
9:15am Wed 9 Jan 08

Not "Invincible" anymore is he.

Good riddance.

A Grown up, Thamesmead says...
9:33am Wed 9 Jan 08

DZYER IVS RIP FIGHTERRR wrote:
mum of 4 wrote:
Ben wrote: mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to school
Thakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn\'t notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody\'s perfect
OU STILL SPELL WRONG LOVE SO PLEASE SHUT UP OF IS SPELT WITH 1 F
Grow up, get a jod/education. Get help to get out of trouble or you will end up like your lover Fighterrrrrrrrr. You pick on people in the streets now you bring your silly childish games on here to bully others!! GROW UP!!

general kitchener, war office says...
10:05am Wed 9 Jan 08

To all the remaining ivs, Ibeleive there are vacancies in Afghanistan etc. for real soldiers. No designer gear, I'm afraid, probably not as many home comforts as you're used to but if you want to call yourselves soldiers go sign up and do it properly.I for one would like to remember that I live in a country supposedly NOT at war, yet the youth of today(sorry some of the youth of today)seem to want to make London, Kent etc a battleground.Perhaps Faridon and his friends should ask their parents why they left their country of birth. Was it not to escape this type of environment and give their kids a better chance in life??

baller, kent says...
10:16am Wed 9 Jan 08

ow yeah this messeage goes ta all the peeps finkin it woz yra n wsb man u need ta get your facts rite it wernt eny of us ow yea n yra dnt stand 4 yunger rebal attakes it is yunger rufles attak

Erastus, Sofa says...
10:18am Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear General Kitchener. With all due respect, I suspect the reason that the dead scumbag's parents moved to this country was for the running water, electricity and state handouts as well as being sick of living in a hot, dusty and barren moonscape.

Erastus, Armchair says...
10:21am Wed 9 Jan 08

I do not assume for one second that baller and all the other 'soldiers' who have commented are anything other than Trolls having a laugh. As if these moronic kids would ever take the trouble to read an online local newspaper? Nice try though, guys.

birchman, kent says...
10:24am Wed 9 Jan 08

this message goes owt ta all thee ivs we told yu dat dis would happen but nun off u gaiiiswould listern all im sayiin is r.i.p fighterrr

Angry, Barnehurst says...
10:26am Wed 9 Jan 08

The ReV wrote:
\"Judge not, lest ye be judged\" er..Nope. A person is judged by their actions but then we can swap pith comments till the cows come home. If you want to play at being a \"big boy\" then your going to get hurt. It\'s harder to be a man than it is to just posturing and bully. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance and zero point to his existance. Where was his parents?
Well said! totally agree

Erastus, The bog says...
10:27am Wed 9 Jan 08

To all the toy soldiers: yawn. I would like to see all of you stabbed to death. In fact, I would pay for a ringside seat.

baller, kent says...
10:28am Wed 9 Jan 08

well ovpisly u dnt nah fitghterrr den e as tried robbin me before wen i woz up woolwich wid mi parentss

Angry, Barnehurst says...
10:31am Wed 9 Jan 08

... wrote:
have some bloody respect ... the boy just died he may not have been a saint but no one deserves to die ... if it was somone related to you and you found out they done the same i bet you would not be saying this ...you people are pathetic
He may have died but what was he upto??Perhaps he was happy slapping again and this person fought back.Deserves everything he got and one less scumbag on our streets

No name, says...
10:33am Wed 9 Jan 08

PRESHARRR wrote:
look all ave gotta say is dat all u lot r heartless am tellin u d boi did rong fngs but so have i ave been stabbed b4 4 no reason i dnt care but u lot juss cozz he mite ave done rong fings soon as he dies u lot get a boner i seriously dnt now how u lot can do dat even if ma worst enemy died i wud still show respect u lot dnt realise dat u r talking bad about a dead person but its kool doe memba wah goes around comes around rip ma boi 4 life till the next 1 aswell
Presharrr You are a member of the IVS what is going to happen now?
are things just going to get worse?
or will it stop you from behaving like you do?
cant you see the people have had enough?
I aint glad the boy is dead, i feels sorry for his family and friends but it was always going to happen!
you are all at college will you turn your lifes around now or will the IVS continue to make peoples lifes a misery?
look mate we dont need these gangs and you know the IVS do some really bad things, people are scared of you and its not right.
people are pleased that fighterrr is dead that is bad but it shows how people feel.
surely you dont want people to be like this.
you aint stupid kids you are almost adults and your familys dont want to loose you.
dont let YOU be the next one to die

baller, kent says...
10:34am Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
To all the toy soldiers: yawn. I would like to see all of you stabbed to death. In fact, I would pay for a ringside seat.
u dnt nah fighterrr den do u u helm na wun deserves ta die but e woz a horrible person n sum people will b glad ta c the bk off him

Angry, says...
10:35am Wed 9 Jan 08

baller wrote:
ow yeah this messeage goes ta all the peeps finkin it woz yra n wsb man u need ta get your facts rite it wernt eny of us ow yea n yra dnt stand 4 yunger rebal attakes it is yunger rufles attak
What! Moron, LOSER. Obviously a no brain member of YRA. Baller go an get a life

Erastus, The Bath says...
10:36am Wed 9 Jan 08

Remembering that the attack was made by a homeless person, I suspect the scumbags decided to pick on him and they got some back. Shame the poor guy has now got to go to prison; he should be given a medal. I would certainly contribute to a whip-round for him to get a flat.

keptkid, temple hill says...
10:40am Wed 9 Jan 08

YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS YUNGER MOS

Erastus, The Stairs says...
10:43am Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear keptkid. A troll living in Temple Hill? Says it all really.

Resident, Local says...
10:44am Wed 9 Jan 08

Well done Newshopper for doing a truthful article and telling it like it is, rather than bending down to "nicities" and PC.

I'm impressed!

Katie., says...
10:45am Wed 9 Jan 08

After reading some of these comments i actually cant stop laughing. "He didnt fight random people only people that jumped him like RA" What a load of crap! I have been there when we was walking down the street and he randomly walks up to OAPS or young groups of girls about 13 and punches them straight in the face, please dont tell me "they had beef" with him aswell because that is rubbish. To a number of people i no he held knifes to there throats and robbed them, he chased people i know through areas with knives BECAUSE HES FIGHTER WOT PUSSYOLE HAHAHA! Well u no wot, what goes around comes around, good riddence to him, he was a waste of space, he thought he could be a big boy and get involved in big boys games of shotting crack, he paid the price. hes had it coming for so so long, and i can safely say im glad he is dead. "Dont panik im islamic" t-shirts..what the hell is that about.? state of him and all hes little cronies known as IVS..invincible soliders? Not so invincible now are ya, hes dead, 2 are in ospital, and some of your boys got **** up for going to erith yesterday. Your all a joke you need to grow up before you end up the same as "fighterrr" ..DEAD. oh and before you all start chatting sh*t to me, yes i did know him as a person, yes i have met him before and yes i do know "the real fighter"..about respect him hes dead, why should i have respect for a little runt that had no respect for anyone but hes crew till the day he died. RIP the true soliders not fake wannabes like him.

Lee, Welling says...
10:45am Wed 9 Jan 08

Shame another child has had to die to highlight the growing problem of gang culture.

I don't understand why the youth's on here keep harping on about 'respect' when they so clearly have absolutely no respect for anyone outside of their gang.

When with they realise that the streets are in this state because of them.

The majority of adults have respect.

Respect for others.
Respect for their surroundings.
Respect for property.
RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES.

The streets will not be free of gangs until the youth contingent decide to grow up.

Sad but true.

What a waste of a life RIP Mr Alizada.

Angry, says...
10:46am Wed 9 Jan 08

Matt wrote:
It never surprises me that these stories are always followed up by comments from do gooders! I expect that they are all speaking from a privileged position where they have never been on the receiving end of a nasty thug. If they had been given a kicking in the street by a gang for fun they I expect they would have a different opinion!
Couldnt have said it better! Do gooders make my blood boil!!

19yroldgirl, Bexleyheath says...
11:23am Wed 9 Jan 08

Firstly I want to say to all the "crew" members on here, get your life straight and stop with all the slang and gang names. It's perfectly fine to hang around with a group of friends without having to have a big bad scary names and go round with your faces covered up. No-one will think any less of you, you won’t be thought of as uncool just because you act like a normal person rather than thugs.

I am 19, so a bit older than the boy killed, but I know what this area is like and what **** some of these kids can be. It doesn’t need to be happening, and it scares the hell out of me that my younger brother is out and about in the same area, using the same buses as these kids. All you “gang” members might think your different and above kids that aren’t going around causing trouble, but really your the weak ones, following older kids and then eventually younger kids will follow you.

I never got involved in the crews and stuff when I was younger, but I knew kids that were in them, and sadly not all are bad through and through – there is just nothing else to do in the area for kids of that age – between the ages of about 13 to 18 (when they can go to pubs) what else can kids do but “street-rat” and get in the way. So some of them get hooked up in the crews, it serves a purpose for them, but they don’t realise what trouble it can bring them until it’s too late.

It’s something I think needs to be looked at – there needs to be more for the kids round here, but at the same time, these kids need to take a look and realise how pathetic they are being. You all look so stupid, how you dress, how you talk and type and how you behave.

I’ve looked at the videos, and I’m sad to say I know a few of the kids in this IVS group...I hope the death of their friend shocks them into getting their lifes on track and doing something positive rather than continuing how they are on into adulthood.

It seems like he was a total ****, but at the same time, I honestly don’t think he deserves to die, all the parents on here saying “good riddance” should maybe think how they would feel if it was their child. It’s so easy to judge, but I know when I was still at school I got up to a lot my parents would not of been proud of, and I’m sure your kids are the same. Faridon went too far, but he is still a son, and clearly a friend to many.

Final thing. Calling him a soldier is an insult. Real soldiers are out there fighting and dying for their country. This kid may not of been evil, but he was a bully and caused people pain. Your also not really crews, gangs or gangsters. Look up the real meanings, or maybe take a trip to Harlem to see how hard things are out there - you wouldnt last 5 minutes. Your just immature - end of.

Anon, says...
11:59am Wed 9 Jan 08

So lets get this straight then, do nice people hang around in crack dens then???? cos thats what was going on ey!!!!bold]

SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08

DONT TALK RUBBISH.. NOT EVERYONE DOES THAT..

IM IN COLLEGE DOING MY TING GET ME..

IM ON DIS MUSIC TING PRODUCING AND STUDIO ENGINEERING..

TALK RUBBISH TO ME INIT?

IF I DIED U PPL WUD PROBERLY TALK THE SAME **** ABOUT ME ASWELL.

YOU ARE THE LOW LIFES.

FIX UP AND REALISE NOT EVERYONE IS WELL OFF.. NOT EVERYONE IS SMART.. NOT EVERYONE CAN GET A JOB.. IF U CHOOSE TO SHOT U SHOT IF U CHOOSE TO ROB U HAVE TO ROB.. YOU DONT GET HELP FROM THE GOVERMENT..

ITS ALL A BIG STRUGGLE FOR THE POORER PEOPLE..


......., London says...
12:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Oh dont talk rubbish! My family is not well off - i am not very smart - but i have still managed to get a job and pay my way and not go around robbing, stabbing or shooting people.

Get a life.

MAN LIKE SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I CHILL IN DEPTFORD WHAT IS THIS RUBBISH UR TALKING???

AND IF I WENT TO PECKHAM ID GET KILLED.. I KNO DIS..

ITS CALLED A BOROUGH SITUATION

PECKHAM AND DEPTFORD DO NOT GET ON, I THINK YOU NEED TO REALISE YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE STREETS. YOUR FAR FROM STREET WISE, AND IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH SITUATIONS LIKE SOME OF US GUYS HAVE.. SO FIX UP AND DONT TRY MUG ME OFF

Reggie, plumstead says...
12:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Sleurrr,

Get your point to a certain extent, but there are a lot of people who are poor who DON'T choose to rob or shoot. Anyway it's one thing robbing to feed yourself, quite another punching random innocent people and generally bullying people. Not saying that's what this lad did (though some people are saying he did), but there are choices in life. Bad guidance.

SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Reggie wrote:
Sleurrr,

Get your point to a certain extent, but there are a lot of people who are poor who DON'T choose to rob or shoot. Anyway it's one thing robbing to feed yourself, quite another punching random innocent people and generally bullying people. Not saying that's what this lad did (though some people are saying he did), but there are choices in life. Bad guidance.
DID I NOT SAY I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE, I DO NOT AIM TO HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE.. IF YOU WANT TO TRY BAD ME UP. IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ON THE CHIN.

YOU NEED TO REALISE IM NOT A LIL BOI NEMORE IV GROWN UP IM NOT IN THIS GANG **** U NEED TO SEE THAT IM DOING SUTTIN WITH MY LIFE SO DONT TRY SAY **** ABOUT ME.. OR MY BOIS. IV KNOWN ALOT OF PPL.. AND 90% OF DEM TURNT OUT **** IN THE AREA WE R.. THEY ROB THEY STAB THEY SHOOT.. THEY DONT CARE..

YOU NEEDA REALISE DAT IF YOUR GUNNA TALK ALL THE TALK YOU HAVE TO BACK IT UP WITH ACTION.. U MITE ASWELL JUS VOTE BNP OR SUTTIN BUT AS U SAW WHITE PEOPLE ARE ON THIS **** ASWELL U SEE IT

BRUTAL, says...
12:33pm Wed 9 Jan 08

U LOT NEED 2 REALISE NO1 KNOWS THE REAL FIGHTER BUT HIS FRENDS.. IF U WAS A FREND OF FIGHTERS U WUDDA REALISED HE IS WHAT HE IS... HE HAD THE MIND OF A ANIMAL U COULD NOT CONTAIN HIM BUT HALF THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING HERE ARE BULLSH*T... HE WAS A TRUE FREND HE WAS ALWAYS BY YOUR SIDE... EVERYTHING SLUERS SAYING IS TRUE ANY GANG MEMBER THAT DIES... YOU LOT WILL SAY ABOUT THE SAME ABOUT ALL OF THEM OH THEY DESERVED IT... PPL JOIN GANGS 2 FIT IN... IF U HAVE A GROUP OF FRENDS BY YOUR SIDE... LIFES EASIER... BUT U GET CAUGHT UP IN RONG STUFF... I LEFT THE GANG ABOUT 4MONTHS AGO... THEY ARE ALWAYS GUNNA BE MY FRENDS NO MATTER WHAT WEVE DONE... WE DO WHAT WE FEEL WE HAVE 2 DO... DERE IS NO IVS GANG ANYMORE PPL NEED 2 REALISE THAT... AND ABOUT MONEY WE DONT EARN MONEY PAAALEASEEE... DONT BE SILLYY I BEG YOU... BUT BASICALLY THE PROBLEMS BETWEEN THE GANGS WILL NEVER STOP... BUT IT AINT GUNNA EVERY1 WANTS POWER/RESPECT... REALISE LIFE FOR A TEENAGER THESE DAYS IS HARDER EVERY1 WANTS MONEY EVERY1 WANTS 2 BE TOP BOY... IVE BEEN THERE NOW IM FOCUSING ON MY LIFE!!! COLLEGE N THEM THINGS... FREE ALL MY JAIL GUYS ASWEL... 3 GLOCKMAN 3 SWYPER 3 GHOSTTT... R.I.P FIGHTER WEL BE THERE SOON HOLD IN THERE... WE ALL LOVE YOU N MISS YOU!!!

Wazpy, says...
12:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Do you guys at IVS see how hated you are?

It's not because of your race as you're whiter than the Indians or Chinese.

People hate you because of your thuggish behavior that shows no respect for anyone outside of your gang.

All of the politicians and social organizations who say there's too many youth in prison should meet up with you lot one day.

They'll be advocating three strikes programs before you know it.

BRUTAL, says...
12:42pm Wed 9 Jan 08

DONT YOU LOT REALISE WE DONT RESPECT ANY1 COZ WERE NOT RESPECTED... MAYBE WHAT WEVE DONE DOESNT DESERVE RESPECT BUT WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING... ALL WE WANT IS FOR FIGHTER TO REST IN PEACE... CANT YOU SEE ITS HURTING US ALL... 2 LOSE A GOOD FREND A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY... MOST OF US ARE ON OUR LAST CHANCE 1 MORE THING WE GO PRISON... THAT IS NOTHING 2 BE PROUD OF!!! IM SURE WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY 2 MEET UP WITH THESE PPL AND TALK ABOUT GANG CULTURE N LIFE FOR TEENS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY WERE ALL OUTCASTS... NO1 HELPS US GET OUT THE STRUGGLE... SO WERE GUNNA BE THERE TIL THE DAY WE DIE OBVIOUSLY...

Erastus, In Bed says...
12:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I don't think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language.

Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people's relief. Real gangsters don't wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don't actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business.

These 'gangstas' are just kids who are the result of our 'caring society'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny.

The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days.

I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me.

Erastus

Erastus, The Bar says...
12:50pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Yawn. I suggest we stop the discussion now so that we prevent these idiots getting any more publicity on here.

brutal, says...
12:51pm Wed 9 Jan 08

YOU ARE FUNNY... YOU ACTUALLY DONT UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH... WE NEVER ATTACKED THE ELDERLY THAT IS FOR LOW LIFE SCUM... OR DO WE ATTACK CHILDREN... EVERYBODY WEVE HAD FIGHTS WITH... HAS BEEN DOWN 2 GANG WARS OBVIOUSLY... I UNDERSTAND YOU ONLY LOOK AT IT BY READING THIS N WHAT YOUVE HEARD IF YOU WAS PART OF A GANG YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND... PLUS NO1 HERE HAS SAID WERE GANGSTERS NO1 MATE SO I DONT KNOW WERE YOUR GETTING THAT IDEA FROM... WERE ARE A GROUP OF FRENDS WHO BACK EACHOTHER NOW GO BACK 2 SLEEP N STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT... REST IN PEACE FRAIDON BROTHER

mt to brutal, says...
12:54pm Wed 9 Jan 08

didnt think i would say this but i feel sorry for you and the youngsters of today, i feel scared because your generation is the future, it doesnt give us much confidence when you are all involved in this gang culture, you sound like you want out - dont blame you, if only there could be peace-what is it with this post code war ? it sounds so stupid, people are entitled to go anywhere arnt they ? so why cant they?

lee, orpington says...
12:55pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus,

My disillusionment at these "gangstas" is only matched by my astonishment of your judgemental approach.

Who are you to suggest people stop writing theirt opinions because you have just written yours?

To the gangstas, deciphering your language is quite hard but I can gather that some of you appear intelligent enough to know that you are/were on the wrong path. And maybe when you look back on this period of your life you might have some shame and regret. But lifes problems are not about blame, but solution.

Choose to lead a good life.

T, watching says...
12:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08

he had a rep for being a thug and a bully happy slapping people with his gang thats wrong fighters should protect people not start s**t be respectfull to young and old some1 starts it then finish it be nice at all times some1 attacts you then deal with it only then will you be a true fighter let this be a lesson to all you wantabes out there BE REAL

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
I don't think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language.

Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people's relief. Real gangsters don't wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don't actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business.

These 'gangstas' are just kids who are the result of our 'caring society'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny.

The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days.

I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me.

Erastus
WHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S.

I CANT BARE TO READ WHAT YOUR TALKIN ABOUT EITHER..

ITS COMPLETE NONSENSE.

WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER??

WHO SAID ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES??

YOU JUST ASSUME A COUPLE OF KIDS HAVING A LAUGH IS ANTI SOCIAL?

YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO?

IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS??

REALISE YOU ARE NOT MAKING THINGS ANY BETTER BY SLAGGIN US OFF, YOUR JUST MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE.

IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH.

AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL PROBERLY SAY THAT IS ANTI SOCIAL ASWELL..

IM NOT GOING TO LIE I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME WAYS BUT YOU TALK ALOT OF RUBBISH ABOUT GANGSTER THIS GANGSTER THAT..

ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE.

ITS ASIF YOUR STEREOTYPING ALL OF US BOYS THAT USED TO HANG AROUND TOGETHER AS THE SAME PERSON, SHOTTING TO MAKE MONEY??

ITS FAR FROM THATTTT, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO OR STILL DO HANG AROUND WITH THE GROUP.


BRUTAL, says...
1:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08

mt to brutal wrote:
didnt think i would say this but i feel sorry for you and the youngsters of today, i feel scared because your generation is the future, it doesnt give us much confidence when you are all involved in this gang culture, you sound like you want out - dont blame you, if only there could be peace-what is it with this post code war ? it sounds so stupid, people are entitled to go anywhere arnt they ? so why cant they?
2 BE HONEST ITS ALL DOWN 2 YOUTHS WANTING POWER AND RESPECT... ITS BECAUSE KIDS THESE DAYS ARE ALL THINKING THEY HAVE 2 BE SOMEONE IN LIFE AS A KID... ITS BECAUSE IF YOUR FROM A CERTAIN POSTCODE AND YOU GO TO ANOTHER POSTCODE WHO DONT LIKE A GANG FROM YOUR POSTCODE YOUR AUTOMATICALLY DRAGGED INTO AND BEAT UP WHICH BRINGS REVENGE AND REDEMPTION... THATS WHY ITS HARD 2 GO OTHER AREAS BECAUSE EVERY1 IS ON SOME BIG HYPE ABOUT BEING THE HARDEST IN THERE AREA... BUT 2 BE HONEST WHAT ARE THE GOVERNMENT DOING FOR TROUBLED YOUTHS THERE LETTIN US KILL EACHOTHER BECAUSE THATS ANOTHER "SCUM KID" OFF THE EARTH N OUT OF THERE COMMUNITY WE ARE OUTCASTS...

tasha, sidcup says...
1:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08

i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn't give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don't see anything wrong with what he did, if you don't see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don't think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!

mt, says...
1:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08

well, there's no post code where he is now. its just a shame life is like it is. police cannot touch anyone, human rights group will free anyone, then you got the pc brigade-bl*ody hell this isnt living. i really hope your life turns out well.

Steve, at work (a novel concept for some of you! says...
1:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear Erastus,

You are truly scholar keep up the good blogging!

To many of the rest of you - learn to speak and write ENGLISH, many of you are almost completely Incomprehensible. A recurring theme seems to be ‘a desire for respect’; you'll need to get people to take you seriously first - dropping the 'playground speak' might help!

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08

tasha wrote:
i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn't give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don't see anything wrong with what he did, if you don't see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don't think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!
THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS..

ME AND HIM FELL OUT..

WE WERNT KOOL.. BUT IM STILL GOING TO SHOW MY RESPECT..

AND THEY WHERE HARDLY ATTACKS.. PLAYING WITH FRIENDS. AND A TAP ON THE HEAD. TO A BOI HE KNEW?

IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US.. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL..

ITS NOT LIKE WE WAS ON THE STREET ATTAKING RANDOM PEOPLE.. ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT..

I CAN SEE U HAVE SEEN A BAD IMAGE OF HIM.. BUT HE WASNT AS YOU ARE PORTRAYING HIM..

YOU'V SEEN A FEW VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE SOMEONE FROM THAT???

NOWAY!

ITS FAR FROM THAT

me, erith says...
1:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08

if these so called 'gangsters' want respect, stop the violence, stop with the big talk and go back to school, get a good education and be nice to everyone! it is people like these that get the respect they deserve! respect isn't knowing people are scared of you, respect is treating others how you want to be treated and seen as a good person. i jus see this is another scum off our streets. now for the rest of them......

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Steve wrote:
Dear Erastus,

You are truly scholar keep up the good blogging!

To many of the rest of you - learn to speak and write ENGLISH, many of you are almost completely Incomprehensible. A recurring theme seems to be ‘a desire for respect’; you'll need to get people to take you seriously first - dropping the 'playground speak' might help!
WHOS "PLAYGROUND SPEAKING"

IM FAR FROM AN ADULT.

I WONT LIE IM STILL IN A TEENAGERS FRAME OF MIND.. IM 16.. BUT I REALISE SOME THINGS ARE WRONG SOMETHINGS ARE RITE.

AT THE MOMENT I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG KEEP SLAGGING US OFF..

I WONT LIE BUT THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE GET HURT..

SILLY STUFF LIKE THIS IS WHY SOME PEOPLE NOW DAYS END UP DEAD.

I DONT SEE WHY YOU HAVE TO TRY SAY THAT WE A IMMATURE OR WHATEVER YOUD LIKE TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE STOOPING DOWN TO THAT LEVEL YOURSELF BY TRYING TO MUG US OFF..

SORRY BUT YOU ARE WRONG.

SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08

me wrote:
if these so called \'gangsters\' want respect, stop the violence, stop with the big talk and go back to school, get a good education and be nice to everyone! it is people like these that get the respect they deserve! respect isn\'t knowing people are scared of you, respect is treating others how you want to be treated and seen as a good person. i jus see this is another scum off our streets. now for the rest of them......
IM STILL IN COLLEGE SO PLEASE COME CORRECT AND REPHRASE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT US. YOU WOULD BE SUPRISED HOW CLEVER SOME OF US ARE, WE MAY NOT SHOW IT BUT THE INTELIGENCE IS IN US.. ALL OF US THAT USED TO HANG AROUND ARE ALL AT COLLEGE OR WORKING SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT TALK RUBBISH

Steve, As before says...
1:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
Steve wrote: Dear Erastus, You are truly scholar keep up the good blogging! To many of the rest of you - learn to speak and write ENGLISH, many of you are almost completely Incomprehensible. A recurring theme seems to be ‘a desire for respect’; you\\\'ll need to get people to take you seriously first - dropping the \\\'playground speak\\\' might help!
WHOS \\\"PLAYGROUND SPEAKING\\\" IM FAR FROM AN ADULT. I WONT LIE IM STILL IN A TEENAGERS FRAME OF MIND.. IM 16.. BUT I REALISE SOME THINGS ARE WRONG SOMETHINGS ARE RITE. AT THE MOMENT I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG KEEP SLAGGING US OFF.. I WONT LIE BUT THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE GET HURT.. SILLY STUFF LIKE THIS IS WHY SOME PEOPLE NOW DAYS END UP DEAD. I DONT SEE WHY YOU HAVE TO TRY SAY THAT WE A IMMATURE OR WHATEVER YOUD LIKE TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE STOOPING DOWN TO THAT LEVEL YOURSELF BY TRYING TO MUG US OFF.. SORRY BUT YOU ARE WRONG.
Silver,

I feel better knowing that you are sorry.

Jon, Deptford- hahaha says...
1:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08

MAN LIKE SLUER wrote:
I CHILL IN DEPTFORD WHAT IS THIS RUBBISH UR TALKING??? AND IF I WENT TO PECKHAM ID GET KILLED.. I KNO DIS.. ITS CALLED A BOROUGH SITUATION PECKHAM AND DEPTFORD DO NOT GET ON, I THINK YOU NEED TO REALISE YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE STREETS. YOUR FAR FROM STREET WISE, AND IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH SITUATIONS LIKE SOME OF US GUYS HAVE.. SO FIX UP AND DONT TRY MUG ME OFF
Hahaha, the person is right. If the real GANGSTERS get hold of ya, you will know about it. I know as me family grew up in the area and know some of the not so nice people if you cross them or their familys. So come mess with the kids on the streets there and you never know you may cross the wrong person. Sounds like your so called mate did! haha

Rob, London says...
1:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I've got mixed feelings about this one. I come from a well-off middle-class background but even i did things when i was a teenager that i regret (lighting fires, throwing stones etc), and if i'd been killed in the act of doing them maybe i'd have had dozens of people on a website saying how glad they are that i had died.

This Fighterr bloke seemed like a bad sort but it sounds like he had a crap start in life. Who knows what he saw growing up in Afghanistan and to then be uprooted from your home and placed in some south east london council estate isn't exactly ideal.

I'm no do-gooder in fact i'm quite right-wing when it comes to law and order, i just think it's wrong to glory in the death of another human being no matter who he is.

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Jon wrote:
MAN LIKE SLUER wrote:
I CHILL IN DEPTFORD WHAT IS THIS RUBBISH UR TALKING??? AND IF I WENT TO PECKHAM ID GET KILLED.. I KNO DIS.. ITS CALLED A BOROUGH SITUATION PECKHAM AND DEPTFORD DO NOT GET ON, I THINK YOU NEED TO REALISE YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE STREETS. YOUR FAR FROM STREET WISE, AND IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH SITUATIONS LIKE SOME OF US GUYS HAVE.. SO FIX UP AND DONT TRY MUG ME OFF
Hahaha, the person is right. If the real GANGSTERS get hold of ya, you will know about it. I know as me family grew up in the area and know some of the not so nice people if you cross them or their familys. So come mess with the kids on the streets there and you never know you may cross the wrong person. Sounds like your so called mate did! haha
I DONT SEE WHATS FUNNY ABOUT DEATH??

YOUR JUST A LOSER LAUGHING AT SUCH A THING..

IM NOT TRYING TO ME GANGSTER? SO IT REALLY WOULDNT MATTER..

SO SAYING I WOULDNT LAST 5 MINUTES IN DEPTFORD IS A BIG LIE IN IT SELF..

ITS ASIF YOUR TRYING TO BRING THE AREA DOWN WITH YOU???

ARE YOU THAT INSECURE???

COME ON NOW..

SO WHAT IF YOUR FAMILY GREW UP THERE??

SO HAVE MINE??

ITS NOT A BIG DEAL..

IV LIVED THERE MOST OF MY LIFE..

AND IM NOW 16 NEARLY 17.. GETTIN A GOOD EDUCATION AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ABOUT HOW IF THE REAL GANGSTERS GET HOLD OF ME??

AND YOU HAVE THE CHEEK TO TELL US WE ARE LOW??

THIS IS WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND EXPLAIN???

Erastus, The Shed says...
1:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper?

Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?

Erastus, the Loft says...
1:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I now demand that nobody else writes anything on this subject. Especially Lee Walton AKA Mr Perfect.

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:33pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper?

Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SLUE
RBEATS

ABOUT NOT REAL GANG MEMBERS??

LAST YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN ME RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN..

LIKE IV SAID ALREADY..

IM TRYING TO CHANGE

TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION AND DO WELL.. IV NOTICED THE BAD THINGS IN LIFE AND IM STEERING CLEAR FROM THEM. "ERASTUS" PLEASE STOP TALKIN ALOUD OF ****

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:35pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
Erastus wrote:
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper?

Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SLUE
RBEATS

ABOUT NOT REAL GANG MEMBERS??

LAST YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN ME RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN..

LIKE IV SAID ALREADY..

IM TRYING TO CHANGE

TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION AND DO WELL.. IV NOTICED THE BAD THINGS IN LIFE AND IM STEERING CLEAR FROM THEM. "ERASTUS" PLEASE STOP TALKIN ALOUD OF ****
A LOAD*

19yrold, Bexleyheath says...
1:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08

All this post-code wars is nonsense. I live in Bexley, but I sure as hell could walk round where I want to. If I got mugged or stabbed or anything else it would be down to the thugs doing it, and not because of my postcode - how would they know?!?!
It's the kids going round dressed like flipping idiots and attracting attention to themselves that 9 times out of 10 will be targeted.

You go on bout post code wars, but how many friends of yours have personalised hats or t-shirts with their post-codes on?! I've seen many so I'm sure you have too!

Don't talk rubbish, London says...
1:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
Erastus wrote: I don't think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language. Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people's relief. Real gangsters don't wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don't actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business. These 'gangstas' are just kids who are the result of our 'caring society'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny. The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days. I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me. Erastus
WHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S. I CANT BARE TO READ WHAT YOUR TALKIN ABOUT EITHER.. ITS COMPLETE NONSENSE. WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER?? WHO SAID ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?? YOU JUST ASSUME A COUPLE OF KIDS HAVING A LAUGH IS ANTI SOCIAL? YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO? IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS?? REALISE YOU ARE NOT MAKING THINGS ANY BETTER BY SLAGGIN US OFF, YOUR JUST MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE. IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH. AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL PROBERLY SAY THAT IS ANTI SOCIAL ASWELL.. IM NOT GOING TO LIE I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME WAYS BUT YOU TALK ALOT OF RUBBISH ABOUT GANGSTER THIS GANGSTER THAT.. ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE. ITS ASIF YOUR STEREOTYPING ALL OF US BOYS THAT USED TO HANG AROUND TOGETHER AS THE SAME PERSON, SHOTTING TO MAKE MONEY?? ITS FAR FROM THATTTT, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO OR STILL DO HANG AROUND WITH THE GROUP.
WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER??
You are in a gang so therefor you are wannabe gangsters.
YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO?
Never heard of a football, the game run outs, basket ball....there is endless stuff you can do!

IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS??
You say your 16, get a job earn some money. Also money isn't everything. There are things you can do without money.

IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH.
You say you have no money....you can afford DRUGS!!

ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE.
Millwall/Charlton/Cr
ystal Palace and even Leeds supporters have respect for others. You pick on school kids....you think that is right.

You want people to feel sorry for you! Then get help, get off the drugs, get a job, turn your life around. Do it for your mate that got murdered.


SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:42pm Wed 9 Jan 08

19yrold wrote:
All this post-code wars is nonsense. I live in Bexley, but I sure as hell could walk round where I want to. If I got mugged or stabbed or anything else it would be down to the thugs doing it, and not because of my postcode - how would they know?!?!
It's the kids going round dressed like flipping idiots and attracting attention to themselves that 9 times out of 10 will be targeted.

You go on bout post code wars, but how many friends of yours have personalised hats or t-shirts with their post-codes on?! I've seen many so I'm sure you have too!
IM SURE I HAVNT..

LOOOL

LIKE I WOULD TELL RIVAL GANGS FROM DIFFERENT POSTCODES WHO I AM SO I CAN HAVE BULLETS CHASING ME LOOOLLLL

IM NOT STUPID..

THATS A MUGS GAME IM NOT EVEN GOING TO LIE.

IL AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT..

BUT RAHH

AS SOON AS YOUR FACE IS KNOWN THAT IS WHEN YOUL START TO FEEL THE TENSION..

FU@@ GANGS.

I HAVE NO TIME FOR THAT B.S

Erastus, The Kitchen says...
1:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear Mr SLUER. I can honestly say I could not give a flying **** about your past or present life. Have we all got to congratulate for not 'RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS'? I wish you and all your mates could have been fatally stabbed. You no-hoperf scumbag!

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:47pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Don\'t talk rubbish wrote:
SLUER wrote:
Erastus wrote: I don\'t think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language. Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people\'s relief. Real gangsters don\'t wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don\'t actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business. These \'gangstas\' are just kids who are the result of our \'caring society\'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny. The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days. I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me. Erastus
WHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S. I CANT BARE TO READ WHAT YOUR TALKIN ABOUT EITHER.. ITS COMPLETE NONSENSE. WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER?? WHO SAID ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?? YOU JUST ASSUME A COUPLE OF KIDS HAVING A LAUGH IS ANTI SOCIAL? YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO? IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS?? REALISE YOU ARE NOT MAKING THINGS ANY BETTER BY SLAGGIN US OFF, YOUR JUST MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE. IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH. AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL PROBERLY SAY THAT IS ANTI SOCIAL ASWELL.. IM NOT GOING TO LIE I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME WAYS BUT YOU TALK ALOT OF RUBBISH ABOUT GANGSTER THIS GANGSTER THAT.. ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE. ITS ASIF YOUR STEREOTYPING ALL OF US BOYS THAT USED TO HANG AROUND TOGETHER AS THE SAME PERSON, SHOTTING TO MAKE MONEY?? ITS FAR FROM THATTTT, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO OR STILL DO HANG AROUND WITH THE GROUP.
WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER??
You are in a gang so therefor you are wannabe gangsters.
YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO?
Never heard of a football, the game run outs, basket ball....there is endless stuff you can do!

IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS??
You say your 16, get a job earn some money. Also money isn\'t everything. There are things you can do without money.

IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH.
You say you have no money....you can afford DRUGS!!

ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE.
Millwall/Charlton/Cr
ystal Palace and even Leeds supporters have respect for others. You pick on school kids....you think that is right.

You want people to feel sorry for you! Then get help, get off the drugs, get a job, turn your life around. Do it for your mate that got murdered.

YOU HAVNT GOT ANYTHING YOU SAID THERE RIGHT..

IF YOU HAVNT READ MY OTHER COMMENTS FIRSTLY..

IM NOT IN A GANG..

SECONDLY..

COME TO MY AREA? I DONT THINK YOUL WANT TO PLAY THEM SORT OF GAMES.. :)

THIRDLY..

IM IN COLLEGE AND I GET EMA SO I GOT MONEY FOR MY SKUNK :)

FORTH..

I DONT PICK ON INNOCENT PEOPLE..

I DONT VICTIMIE ANYONE THATS JUST NOT ME..

AND LAST OF ALL IV BEEN APPLYING FOR JOBS..

SMOKING GREEN EVERY NOW AND THEN ISNT EVEN BAD.. IT RELIEVES STRESS AND IT HELPS ME THINK CREATIVE WHEN IM MAKING A TUNE FOR THE CLUBS TO PLAY!!

ITS NOT LIKE I SNORT CRACK AND TAKE HEROIN IM FAR FROM A DRUGGY UNDER THEM CIRCUMSTANCES.

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:49pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Dear Mr SLUER. I can honestly say I could not give a flying **** about your past or present life. Have we all got to congratulate for not 'RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS'? I wish you and all your mates could have been fatally stabbed. You no-hoperf scumbag!
OK THAT IS NICE TO KNOW THAT YOU WISH THAT PEOPLE GET STABBED AND THEN CALL THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT SCUM??

I DIDNT ASK FOR YOU TO CONGRATULATE ME BUT I DONT LIKE THE WAY PEOPLE ARE SAYING IM A BAD PERSON? YOU DONT KNOW ME FROM ADAM?

IF YOU MET ME YOUD REALISE IM A POLITE GUY I MEAN NO HARM TO ANYONE APART FROM PEOPLE THAT MEAN HARM TO ME MY FAMILY OR MY FRIENDS..

SO ITS NICE TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME I THINK I KNOW WHO THE SCUM BAG IS NOW..

:)

Happy, Somewhere near says...
1:54pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I would like to congratulate SLUER on TRYING to get out of this scene, if this ‘wannabe’ gangsters death has got 1 person out of that culture than something good has come out of it, but I have to say, can people please write in English, none of this gangster / text speak.
As for saying that there is nothing to do, I was brought up in Thamesmead to a poor family, I had friends and we never called ourselves a gang, we respected our elders and there were clubs that we could attend, surely these schemes still exist or try volunteering to get some exposure to an area of interest?
At the end of the day someone has been killed for doing something that they shouldn't have been doing, and I do feel for his family, but it was HIS lifestyle as HE choose it, at 18 you are classed as an adult and are responsible for your own actions.

Erastus, The Pavement says...
1:57pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear Mr Slue. I have visited your site. I like Monty Python too.

You are an excellent Troll, sir. Keep it up.

Des, SE says...
1:58pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Some of these comments above are insane.
To say he did wrong but who has not

Yes most have to a certain degree but he went above that by all accounts

A requested for all you street gang people

Talk Fcucking English, I trust most of you do attend school so stop talking this crap keep it on the Street or MSN but not were people debate things.

I'm worried for the future of this country with the current mentality of the youth

God help us all

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Dear Mr Slue. I have visited your site. I like Monty Python too.

You are an excellent Troll, sir. Keep it up.
YOU SHOULD BECOME A COMEDIAN..

THE NEXT HARRY HILL OR LEE EVANS
THUMBS UP TO YOU

Erastus, The Greenhouse says...
2:05pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Thank you Mr Slue. Perhaps we should go into business together?

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:07pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Thank you Mr Slue. Perhaps we should go into business together?
YER DEFINATELY, VERY GOOD IDEA..

A better person than you, As far away from you as possible says...
2:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08

BRUTAL wrote:
DONT YOU LOT REALISE WE DONT RESPECT ANY1 COZ WERE NOT RESPECTED... MAYBE WHAT WEVE DONE DOESNT DESERVE RESPECT BUT WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING... ALL WE WANT IS FOR FIGHTER TO REST IN PEACE... CANT YOU SEE ITS HURTING US ALL... 2 LOSE A GOOD FREND A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY... MOST OF US ARE ON OUR LAST CHANCE 1 MORE THING WE GO PRISON... THAT IS NOTHING 2 BE PROUD OF!!! IM SURE WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY 2 MEET UP WITH THESE PPL AND TALK ABOUT GANG CULTURE N LIFE FOR TEENS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY WERE ALL OUTCASTS... NO1 HELPS US GET OUT THE STRUGGLE... SO WERE GUNNA BE THERE TIL THE DAY WE DIE OBVIOUSLY...
You have to earn respect don't you know? So someone who talks such sh!te like you will NEVER get any. The kids you probably look down on and beat up and intimidate are the ones who have everyones respect. NOT YOU. You've no-one but your pathetic little selves to blame.

And why are you writing in this stupid babyish language? You just make yourself look like a total w@nker to everyone. You want respect? Never in a million years mate.

You are pathetic!

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08

A better person than you wrote:
BRUTAL wrote:
DONT YOU LOT REALISE WE DONT RESPECT ANY1 COZ WERE NOT RESPECTED... MAYBE WHAT WEVE DONE DOESNT DESERVE RESPECT BUT WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING... ALL WE WANT IS FOR FIGHTER TO REST IN PEACE... CANT YOU SEE ITS HURTING US ALL... 2 LOSE A GOOD FREND A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY... MOST OF US ARE ON OUR LAST CHANCE 1 MORE THING WE GO PRISON... THAT IS NOTHING 2 BE PROUD OF!!! IM SURE WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY 2 MEET UP WITH THESE PPL AND TALK ABOUT GANG CULTURE N LIFE FOR TEENS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY WERE ALL OUTCASTS... NO1 HELPS US GET OUT THE STRUGGLE... SO WERE GUNNA BE THERE TIL THE DAY WE DIE OBVIOUSLY...
You have to earn respect don't you know? So someone who talks such sh!te like you will NEVER get any. The kids you probably look down on and beat up and intimidate are the ones who have everyones respect. NOT YOU. You've no-one but your pathetic little selves to blame.

And why are you writing in this stupid babyish language? You just make yourself look like a total w@nker to everyone. You want respect? Never in a million years mate.

You are pathetic!
OK,

BUT FOR THE LAST TIME WE HAVE NEVER PICKED ON LITTLE KIDS, YOU SEEM LIKE YOU CANT READ??

DONT TAR US ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN A FEW VIDEOS OF A FEW HAPPYS SLAPS DOESNT MEAN WE BULLY PEOPLE, WE ARE NOT BULLIES WE DO NOT VICTIMISE PEOPLE FOR THE LAST TIME

tasha, sidcup says...
2:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
tasha wrote: i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn\'t give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don\'t see anything wrong with what he did, if you don\'t see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don\'t think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!
THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. ME AND HIM FELL OUT.. WE WERNT KOOL.. BUT IM STILL GOING TO SHOW MY RESPECT.. AND THEY WHERE HARDLY ATTACKS.. PLAYING WITH FRIENDS. AND A TAP ON THE HEAD. TO A BOI HE KNEW? IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US.. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.. ITS NOT LIKE WE WAS ON THE STREET ATTAKING RANDOM PEOPLE.. ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT.. I CAN SEE U HAVE SEEN A BAD IMAGE OF HIM.. BUT HE WASNT AS YOU ARE PORTRAYING HIM.. YOU\'V SEEN A FEW VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE SOMEONE FROM THAT??? NOWAY! ITS FAR FROM THAT
you think that starting fights and 'happy slapping' people are not attacks? im sorry but this sort of thing does not happen to the best of us! yes i have seen the videos and im sorry but yes it is easy to judge someone by these as you can see what he gets up to. if you don't want to be judged by others, then why put the videos on the internet or even do these things? he wanted people to see them so you must let people have their opinions.
maybe you didn't pray on strangers but this does not make this behaviour anymore acceptable. you must understand that with the increase of gang violence even small groups of youths can be mistaken as a gang now because it is far too common so please don't be offended that you are considered as part of gang (or used to be).
you have my respect as you got out of that culture, but now get everyones. try and quit the green, instead save the EMA money for when you can start driving lessons or something else you enjoy, try harder for a job and instead of giving 'gangs' excuses and making it look like your defending them, stop writing on here and maybe start a club or something to try and stop youths from going in the direction you did!

Lee, Welling says...
2:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Good point, although it's a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.

Erastus, On the way to the lav says...
2:24pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I will have to rejoin this discussion as my colostomy bag has just leaked rather severely.

See you soon, Mr Sluer. Please do not ever reform.

Erastus

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08

tasha wrote:
SLUER wrote:
tasha wrote: i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn\\\'t give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don\\\'t see anything wrong with what he did, if you don\\\'t see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don\\\'t think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!
THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. ME AND HIM FELL OUT.. WE WERNT KOOL.. BUT IM STILL GOING TO SHOW MY RESPECT.. AND THEY WHERE HARDLY ATTACKS.. PLAYING WITH FRIENDS. AND A TAP ON THE HEAD. TO A BOI HE KNEW? IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US.. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.. ITS NOT LIKE WE WAS ON THE STREET ATTAKING RANDOM PEOPLE.. ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT.. I CAN SEE U HAVE SEEN A BAD IMAGE OF HIM.. BUT HE WASNT AS YOU ARE PORTRAYING HIM.. YOU\\\'V SEEN A FEW VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE SOMEONE FROM THAT??? NOWAY! ITS FAR FROM THAT
you think that starting fights and \'happy slapping\' people are not attacks? im sorry but this sort of thing does not happen to the best of us! yes i have seen the videos and im sorry but yes it is easy to judge someone by these as you can see what he gets up to. if you don\'t want to be judged by others, then why put the videos on the internet or even do these things? he wanted people to see them so you must let people have their opinions.
maybe you didn\'t pray on strangers but this does not make this behaviour anymore acceptable. you must understand that with the increase of gang violence even small groups of youths can be mistaken as a gang now because it is far too common so please don\'t be offended that you are considered as part of gang (or used to be).
you have my respect as you got out of that culture, but now get everyones. try and quit the green, instead save the EMA money for when you can start driving lessons or something else you enjoy, try harder for a job and instead of giving \'gangs\' excuses and making it look like your defending them, stop writing on here and maybe start a club or something to try and stop youths from going in the direction you did!
THEM VIDEOS ARENT OF ME SO ERMMM YER I THINK YOUR TELLING A DEAD PERSON THAT.. R.I.P FIGHTER

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lee wrote:
Erastus wrote:
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Good point, although it\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

MY BAD TASHA I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID..

THE THING IS I ACTUALLY DO I HAVE A STUDIO AND I HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LET YOUTH FROM ROUND THERE AREA USE IT. TRYING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREET ROBBIN PEOPLE AND TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING.

BUT YOUR TALKIN AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER MADE MISTAKES?

STOP WITH THAT TALK EVERYONE HAS..

Lee, Welling says...
2:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
Lee wrote:
Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Good point, although it\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?
Pardon?

:)

And back to point..... I do find it heart breaking that this life has been cut short due to street violence.

I believe it is time that the government step in and take action.

There is a great need for the 14-17 year age groups to be productively occupied.

Youth groups, social activities, community activities.... something positive should come from this lads death.

Ideas anyone?


SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lee wrote:
SLUER wrote:
Lee wrote:
Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Good point, although it\\\\\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?
Pardon?

:)

And back to point..... I do find it heart breaking that this life has been cut short due to street violence.

I believe it is time that the government step in and take action.

There is a great need for the 14-17 year age groups to be productively occupied.

Youth groups, social activities, community activities.... something positive should come from this lads death.

Ideas anyone?

I STRONGLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT POINT..

EVEN SMALL SPORTS FACILITIES OR LOCAL CLUBS ON ESTATES WOULD BE A START THERE IS NOTHING HERE WHERE I LIVE ACCEPT A RUN DOWN SWING PARK "EVELYN ESTATE" DEPTFORD!

Anita, Dartford says...
2:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Calling all you "brave soldiers". The British Army needs you where "real soldiers" are fighting in Iraq etc, be careful now they might notice your yellow streak running down your back! They dont take kindly to arseholes who happy slap or rob old women cos they are too thick to get a job and pay for something out of their own pocket. One down only another ? to go. Mind how you go now.

?*?, London City says...
2:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lee wrote:
SLUER wrote:
Lee wrote:
Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Good point, although it\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?
Pardon? :) And back to point..... I do find it heart breaking that this life has been cut short due to street violence. I believe it is time that the government step in and take action. There is a great need for the 14-17 year age groups to be productively occupied. Youth groups, social activities, community activities.... something positive should come from this lads death. Ideas anyone?

A sort of national service, where they are 'encouraged' to attend for a small weekly payment, this will teach them respect, how to take orders, and finally give them the value of earning the £ in their pocket
Nothing much about £15.00 for which their parents can take a % for their upkeep.. plus it will keep them of the street
take half for rent

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Anita wrote:
Calling all you "brave soldiers". The British Army needs you where "real soldiers" are fighting in Iraq etc, be careful now they might notice your yellow streak running down your back! They dont take kindly to arseholes who happy slap or rob old women cos they are too thick to get a job and pay for something out of their own pocket. One down only another ? to go. Mind how you go now.
WEV HAD THIS ARGUEMENT AND IF YOU DIDNT GET THE POINT ALREADY..

WE DO NOT ROB OLD WOMEN AND NOT ALL OF US ARE HAPPY SLAPPING JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON DID..

SO STOP TARING US ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH

CHEERS!

charllie, b.heath says...
3:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08

y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr

zaccc, abbey wood says...
3:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08

i remember once when i was at megabowl one weekend woth my chums. Fighter approached and started hurling abuseive language and asked if i was a member of the ra gang. i declined and he threatend to shank me. He smelt like cannabis and for this reason, i must say i dislike this myoung fellow. Sorry.

The Lord Jericho, England apparently? says...
3:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08

What????

The Lord Jericho, England - Apparently? says...
3:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08

charllie wrote:
y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr
I counted 20 real words there - can anyone beat that?

Anita, Dartford says...
3:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Who are you trying to kid!!!!!!!! yeah right

BRUTAL, says...
3:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08

charllie wrote:
y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr
I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE SO PLEASE STOP TALKING LIKE YOU KNOW ME THANKS

tasha, sidcup says...
3:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

SLUER wrote:
MY BAD TASHA I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID.. THE THING IS I ACTUALLY DO I HAVE A STUDIO AND I HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LET YOUTH FROM ROUND THERE AREA USE IT. TRYING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREET ROBBIN PEOPLE AND TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING. BUT YOUR TALKIN AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER MADE MISTAKES? STOP WITH THAT TALK EVERYONE HAS..
im glad that you are trying to make a difference but where did i say that i have never made a mistake? of course i have but i have never created violence for the sake of it and i don't talk to people that do either as i know that somehow i would get dragged into it. i wouldn't call hanging around with a group that behaves like this a mistake either. you wanted to hang around with them so it was intentional. i think mistake is the wrong word to use. maybe regret should be there.

Sue, Blackheath says...
4:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08

The Lord Jericho wrote:
charllie wrote: y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr
I counted 20 real words there - can anyone beat that?
Yes its 32 !
Read it again lol

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
4:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

tasha wrote:
SLUER wrote:
MY BAD TASHA I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID.. THE THING IS I ACTUALLY DO I HAVE A STUDIO AND I HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LET YOUTH FROM ROUND THERE AREA USE IT. TRYING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREET ROBBIN PEOPLE AND TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING. BUT YOUR TALKIN AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER MADE MISTAKES? STOP WITH THAT TALK EVERYONE HAS..
im glad that you are trying to make a difference but where did i say that i have never made a mistake? of course i have but i have never created violence for the sake of it and i don't talk to people that do either as i know that somehow i would get dragged into it. i wouldn't call hanging around with a group that behaves like this a mistake either. you wanted to hang around with them so it was intentional. i think mistake is the wrong word to use. maybe regret should be there.
and when have i created violence for the sake of it?

you do not know me to judge me :S


FORFIT IVS, BEXLEY says...
4:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

RRRIIIIPPPP FIGHTERR

ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE HEARTLESS WHO ARE SAYING HE DEZERVES TO DIE YOUR THE LOW LIFE SCUM WHO HAVE NO HEART. IVS IS A FAMILLY AS WE SAY IT AINT ABOUT GANGS WE STICK UP FOR WHATS RIGHT ANTI RASIST ALL THIS . DONT STERIO TYPE US . RIP FIGHTER U'LL BE MISSED .. FORFIT IVS X X X YOUNGER PRESHARRR .

Erastus, The Window Ledge says...
4:45pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Let us all remember this:
Hoody = Scum
Baseball Cap = Scum
Kids who attack innocent people = Scum
Drug Users = Scum
The kid who was killed = Scum

Is that plain enough for everyone? Good.

Erastus, The Garden says...
4:47pm Wed 9 Jan 08

PS: ANYONE WHO WRITES IN CAPITAL LETTERS ON THIS SITE = Scum

lenny, welling says...
5:02pm Wed 9 Jan 08

ANOTHER YOUNG HOOLIGAN WHO LIKES BULLYING PEOPLE OFF OUR STREETS AND HOPEFULLY MANY MORE 2 COME...TADA.X

Erastus, A and E says...
5:06pm Wed 9 Jan 08

If I were to organise gladatorial games which included throwing gangstas and hoodies to really quite vicious wild creatures, would any of you be interested in purchasing tickets?

lenny, welling says...
5:10pm Wed 9 Jan 08

erastus
i got your answer
yesssssssss i would

This fighter is just a scumbag.and if he wasnt dead. he would of caused many more peoples lifes hell.
so good riddance 2 him
rot in hell u scumbag

Paul, Bexleyheath says...
5:10pm Wed 9 Jan 08

So it appears that IVS went around asking boys if they were RA, AP, etc and being mob handed

Right so were they that stupid not to find out who the so called gangs ra, and ap were and if they had a problem with them sort it. But no they went around to groups of boys made themselves look like idiots for asking the question

Tough !! I think not
anyway why discuss their motives, who cares now.. they met their match... whats next for them ?? how about getting educated, stop having a chip on your shoulder, stop using the racist card, get employed and try to get on with your life while you can.

Continue the way you have been behaving and I dread to think what will happen to you. and this is also to the so called white boys in the gang who turned muslim FFS

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08

lenny wrote:
erastus
i got your answer
yesssssssss i would

This fighter is just a scumbag.and if he wasnt dead. he would of caused many more peoples lifes hell.
so good riddance 2 him
rot in hell u scumbag
There we go again.

Stooping down to lower levels..

You are the real scum.

low life. wishing death upon people.

Erastus, X Ray says...
5:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear Lenny. Thank you for being my first customer. I will try to get the telly rights and if all goes well I will provide a free chicken in a basket meal at half-time.

lenny, welling says...
5:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08

sluer your making a gd point.
but i just dont like scumbags who go round making peoples lifes hell. and they need 2 be taught a lesson.and if that means. death 2 stop them causing peoples lifes hell then so be it..

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:15pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Paul wrote:
So it appears that IVS went around asking boys if they were RA, AP, etc and being mob handed

Right so were they that stupid not to find out who the so called gangs ra, and ap were and if they had a problem with them sort it. But no they went around to groups of boys made themselves look like idiots for asking the question

Tough !! I think not
anyway why discuss their motives, who cares now.. they met their match... whats next for them ?? how about getting educated, stop having a chip on your shoulder, stop using the racist card, get employed and try to get on with your life while you can.

Continue the way you have been behaving and I dread to think what will happen to you. and this is also to the so called white boys in the gang who turned muslim FFS
For the people that dont seem to be able to read, we are all actually either in college or working. Maybe you need educating.. You tell me???

And so what if a white boy wants to convert to be a muslim?? is there a problem, do you stereotype muslims aswell???

Lee, orpington says...
5:15pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus = bordering on scum.

You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don't know whether you have kids (something tells me you don't) but if you do I hope they don't develop a drug habit. Hope they don't buy a hooded top too. You're apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these "bullies" - though to be fair it's not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.

Lewis, says...
5:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08

mt to brutal wrote:
didnt think i would say this but i feel sorry for you and the youngsters of today, i feel scared because your generation is the future, it doesnt give us much confidence when you are all involved in this gang culture, you sound like you want out - dont blame you, if only there could be peace-what is it with this post code war ? it sounds so stupid, people are entitled to go anywhere arnt they ? so why cant they?
it aint a "post code war" theres was 2 sides. Racist kids known as RA racist attack who have been around for years and theres us a group of mates who aint letting them get racist to us. that post code crap is up london and that area not us get ure facts straight and now all kids are in gangs if u fink every youth is in a gang u must be very thick. Like i said earlier "ivs" hasnt been a gang and hasnt had a "gang war" for about a year and a half a lot of us have grown out of it including me it was just a phase and a laugh now this stuff with fighter will wake every1 up and realizes it aint a game

Erastus, The Ward says...
5:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Roll up. Roll up for all the fun of the slaughter. Welcome one and all, so glad to see you here. Just have another drink, soak up the atmosphere!

Lewis, says...
5:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lee wrote:
Erastus = bordering on scum. You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don\'t know whether you have kids (something tells me you don\'t) but if you do I hope they don\'t develop a drug habit. Hope they don\'t buy a hooded top too. You\'re apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these \"bullies\" - though to be fair it\'s not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
lee is ure last name sterry?

Erastus, On the bed pan says...
5:19pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Oh, Lee. And I was just beginning to like you. I take it you will not be purchasing a ticket to the show? Shame!

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lee wrote:
Erastus = bordering on scum.

You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don't know whether you have kids (something tells me you don't) but if you do I hope they don't develop a drug habit. Hope they don't buy a hooded top too. You're apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these "bullies" - though to be fair it's not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L

you make me laugh though

your very bias lool

your the sort of person tht would get bullied.. one that would open his mouth to much lool

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08

sluer wrote:
Lee wrote:
Erastus = bordering on scum.

You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don't know whether you have kids (something tells me you don't) but if you do I hope they don't develop a drug habit. Hope they don't buy a hooded top too. You're apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these "bullies" - though to be fair it's not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L

you make me laugh though

your very bias lool

your the sort of person tht would get bullied.. one that would open his mouth to much lool
ahhaha my bad il take that bak i didnt read who wrote that *

Erastus, In the bog having a crafty fag says...
5:28pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Mr Sluer. I noticed that one of your comments appeared then disappeared. Did you regret what you said?

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Mr Sluer. I noticed that one of your comments appeared then disappeared. Did you regret what you said?
nope that was someone pretending to be me, any more smart **** comments???

G, says...
5:30pm Wed 9 Jan 08

WRITING ABOUT INCIDENTS ON YOU TUBE IS IRELEVENT TO THE ACTUAL STORY SO JON I HOPE YOU UPDATE YOUR STORY

Anon, Erith says...
5:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I think that this fool deserves all he got he is a bully and a idiot he knew this was coming to him.. And to all the IVS you are all scum and do not scare anyone... HOS all the way... 1 Down only the rest of you to go... Have fun fighterrr in hell fool i hope this is a leson to all you fools

RIP SCUM

Erastus, Back in bed says...
5:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Only that you seem to have learned how to turn the CAPS lock off. Now all you have to do is remember that a sentence starts with a Capital letter, there is no such word as nope and that you require only ONE question mark at the end a sentence.

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Only that you seem to have learned how to turn the CAPS lock off. Now all you have to do is remember that a sentence starts with a Capital letter, there is no such word as nope and that you require only ONE question mark at the end a sentence.
Smart **** get beat up. SAY NO MORE

Erastus, The Couch says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08

In my opinion, you have all had enough time on this subject now, so I think we should end the discussion.

w, says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08

youu lott are so dumb you dont no what goes on

G, says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I WRITE IN CAPITCALS AS A CHOISE AND I THINK YOU MEAN I HAVE LEARNT TO TURN THE CAPS BUTTON ON NOT OFF :)

Erastus, The Chair says...
5:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Reverting to type are we, Mr Sluer?

Lew, says...
5:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Fraiden didnt pick on kids for no reason he werent a bully the only time i saw him fight was against boys who are in ra. these racist kids jumped him so hes going to stick up for himself get your facts straight. NEWSHOPPER THERES TWO SIDES TOO EVERY STORY. I suggest you get all the facts before you start insulting kids who are dead and who cant stand up forthemselves. this is why who ever rote this article works for the news shopper haha you wouldnt get this at REAL newspapers you cant call yourself a journalist. get down the job centre and SIGN ON.
Rip Fighterrr
Ivss We werent a low life gang we just stuck up for ourselves against those racist punks from erith, north heath and bexleyheath. Just because we had the bottle to stand up to them were seen as bullies. Anyway for the record IVS stopped ages ago most of the people init have grown up out of it and unfortunatley fraidon didnt get out when he did. yove been influenced by what youve read in the papers, the papers dont like kids at the moment, they see us all as animals which isnt true where not skum bags, look what they have done here. jon cheetam has giving a negative view of fraidon hes boiling people up, thats lead 2 alot of comments saying that fraidon deserved to die and then his friends have stuck up for him.
Rest in peace though. only god can judge. whether its jesus or allah, you lot on here who are calling him skum and saying he deserved to go have no right to judge him you didnt even know the boy.
Rest In Peace Fighterr Never forgotten.
LewiS

Erastus, The floor says...
5:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08

No, I think I was right, Mr Sluer. You started with CAPITALS then changed to lower case. But I think you know that in your heart of hearts, don't you?

G, says...
5:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08

ERASTUS DO YOU HAVE A JOB ?

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
No, I think I was right, Mr Sluer. You started with CAPITALS then changed to lower case. But I think you know that in your heart of hearts, don't you?
DONT YOU STOP TALKING?

YOU GOT BULLIED IN SCHOOL DIDNT YOU?

HOS, Erith says...
5:45pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Fraiden didnt pick on kids for no reason he werent a bully the only time i saw him fight was against boys who are in ra. these racist kids jumped him so hes going to stick up for himself get your facts straight. NEWSHOPPER THERES TWO SIDES TOO EVERY STORY. I suggest you get all the facts before you start insulting kids who are dead and who cant stand up forthemselves. this is why who ever rote this article works for the news shopper haha you wouldnt get this at REAL newspapers you cant call yourself a journalist. get down the job centre and SIGN ON.
Rip Fighterrr
Ivss We werent a low life gang we just stuck up for ourselves against those racist punks from erith, north heath and bexleyheath. Just because we had the bottle to stand up to them were seen as bullies. Anyway for the record IVS stopped ages ago most of the people init have grown up out of it and unfortunatley fraidon didnt get out when he did. yove been influenced by what youve read in the papers, the papers dont like kids at the moment, they see us all as animals which isnt true where not skum bags, look what they have done here. jon cheetam has giving a negative view of fraidon hes boiling people up, thats lead 2 alot of comments saying that fraidon deserved to die and then his friends have stuck up for him.
Rest in peace though. only god can judge. whether its jesus or allah, you lot on here who are calling him skum and saying he deserved to go have no right to judge him you didnt even know the boy.
Rest In Peace Fighterr Never forgotten.
....................
.

OH FOOL he will be fogotten he is a bigup fool who thinks he can bully oh sorry NO MORE.. you must be a fool as well lew.. because you know as well as me that the IVS are still about.... why chat crap then.... 1 DOWN you all to come down as well....

RIP my Fool

Erastus, Back in bed says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lew, just get this into your thick head. Nobody likes your kind, no matter what excuses you come up with to explain your antisocial behaviour. People have to work hard to pay their bills (and your dole cheque) and they do not want to see gangs of adolescent boys roaming around in gangs being intimidating. Do you understand this. CAN you understand this? I applaud the reporter for giving a factual account of events. He should be given an award!

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lew wrote:
Fraiden didnt pick on kids for no reason he werent a bully the only time i saw him fight was against boys who are in ra. these racist kids jumped him so hes going to stick up for himself get your facts straight. NEWSHOPPER THERES TWO SIDES TOO EVERY STORY. I suggest you get all the facts before you start insulting kids who are dead and who cant stand up forthemselves. this is why who ever rote this article works for the news shopper haha you wouldnt get this at REAL newspapers you cant call yourself a journalist. get down the job centre and SIGN ON.
Rip Fighterrr
Ivss We werent a low life gang we just stuck up for ourselves against those racist punks from erith, north heath and bexleyheath. Just because we had the bottle to stand up to them were seen as bullies. Anyway for the record IVS stopped ages ago most of the people init have grown up out of it and unfortunatley fraidon didnt get out when he did. yove been influenced by what youve read in the papers, the papers dont like kids at the moment, they see us all as animals which isnt true where not skum bags, look what they have done here. jon cheetam has giving a negative view of fraidon hes boiling people up, thats lead 2 alot of comments saying that fraidon deserved to die and then his friends have stuck up for him.
Rest in peace though. only god can judge. whether its jesus or allah, you lot on here who are calling him skum and saying he deserved to go have no right to judge him you didnt even know the boy.
Rest In Peace Fighterr Never forgotten.
LewiS
Well said soek..
Long time no see though.

Lewis, says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

erastus how old r u? i honestly think you have nothing better to do then slag off and disrespect a dead boy. Seriously what are you doing? Do everyone a favour and get off the computer. I bet your one of these guys who got beat up at school and is trying to get his own back on the cruel world who terrorised him for being suck a diick

Erastus, The Cupboard says...
5:48pm Wed 9 Jan 08

No, not quite Lew. 15 years in the army actually. Boxed for my regiment too. You should try it. Go find your local recruitment office and become a man.

HOS, Erirth says...
5:49pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Listen Lew you know this kid i know i mean knew this kid he was a fool and so are you if you think that he was a good boy i think not RIP

Erastus, The Ring says...
5:52pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lew, my age is irrelevant. I could still give you the pasting of your life if I wanted to. But let's not be unpleasant, eh?

By the way, ever been to the Falkland Islands?

G, says...
5:52pm Wed 9 Jan 08

'ERASTUS' IS THAT YOUR VIRTUAL NAME SO YOU HAVE A NEW IDENTITY BECAUSE IN THE REAL WORLD YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND YOU A NOTHING BUT A ****?
RIP FIGHTER

Erastus, The Corner says...
5:55pm Wed 9 Jan 08

If it pleases you to think so, G. By the way, do you call yourself G because you have not learnt to spell the rest of your name yet?

Lewis, says...
5:55pm Wed 9 Jan 08

be a man? haha very funny im going to admit ive had my time in these gangs but that was a year ago ive grown up out of it and ive got my senses. youve jus said join the army? be a man? what so to become a man i have 2 go 2 war? to fight and kill people just because they fink different. have u ever realised that its always the older men like in their 50 + who decide to go to war but its the young who pay the price and die? e.g. winston churchill. see having a lil fight on the street is one fing but going to war is another. i respect that fact that u went 2 war i take my hat off 2 u and im being serious but your not god u dont have the rite 2 judge and yeh there is a problem with 2days kids 30 teens got stabbed jus in london las year and were alredy on 2 dis year. but slaggin them off calling them scum isnt the way 2 go by it. if your such a stand up guy and ure a hard nut your a boxer why dont u go out get some kids who are fooling around who in ure are opinion "scum" take them off the street do your part if ure so noble and patriotic. please i urge you

HOS, Erith says...
5:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08

G wrote:
'ERASTUS' IS THAT YOUR VIRTUAL NAME SO YOU HAVE A NEW IDENTITY BECAUSE IN THE REAL WORLD YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND YOU A NOTHING BUT A ****? RIP FIGHTER
Listen G you must be a fool aswell Fighterrr was a fool he is gone IVS are over and HOS have won... HAVE A GOOD ONE RIP

lewis, says...
6:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08

can i just ask who are hos? loool ive never heard of u in my life??

E Piggott, The middle says...
6:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lew, what you have to realise is that if young blokes had not gone to war 60-odd years ago, you would not be allowed to voice an opinion on this site. Some had no choice to go but others like my my father, lied about his age to enlist and went through hell for six years because he did not want the Gestapo knocking on his door in the middle of the night. Get me?

m, erith says...
6:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08

basically he looked like a mug on the videos, i know the type. never heard of this wonnabe big man. i less **** on the streets

HOS, Eirth says...
6:02pm Wed 9 Jan 08

just want you to know lewis things change in life.. ok no probs... have a good one rip fighterrr NOT

Erastus, Wheelchair says...
6:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Mr Sluer, there you are talking all that nonsense again. Tut, tut.

Erastus, The corridor says...
6:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Hush Mr Sluer. Ladies are present. Lew for example.

lew, says...
6:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08

yeh thats true piggot il acept and respect them for doing that but i havent got the problem with you erastus is going on like kids are so bad and were all going hell blah blah well if das true do something else about from takin the easy option and sitting here attacking the victims. eratus or watever his name is should get his potato coach arse off the computer and do something about it if it means that much 2 him if it dosent he has no rite to attac that but what im saying is to erastus is that hes a diick he dosent no what its like nowadays id like to see him be in the situation alot of teens are into today i reckon he got bullied big time by kids like us and dis is his lil digg back

Katie, kent says...
6:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08

All you lot are going on about how they have to earn respect?! how can they earn it if none of you will give them a chance? i used to talk to some of the people mentioned above on msn and your all saying how they are 'wanna be gangstahs' well nah not really, like brutal has said you dont know what its like. Society thinks that boys who wear hoodies and tracksuit bottoms are automaticaly a trouble maker but wait one second its just a dress sence :S and society has made them feel like they are outcasts, i mean when i was yonger 15-16 i used to stay on the streets having a laugh with my mates, but that dont mean just because i was on the streets i was causing trouble because i wernt i was having a laugh with my friends, every teenager goes through that stage and grows out of it, some quicker than others. I dont see how you lot have the right to label boys as 'gangsters' and 'thugs' because of how they dress and the fact they are on the streets. Maybe if the government had got thier finger out thier **** and made things better for the youth of today and actualy funded places for the youth to go then there wouldnt be all this ****. Some of you people should maybe try a day in their shoes and see what they are like, and see what they have to go through because i can garentee you wouldnt find it fun. I've known one of the boys mentioned above for about 3/4 years and hes never done anything to me never made me feel scared or intimidated he was always a mate there when i needed him, when i was verbaly abused by some boy he sorted it out NOT BY FIGHTING but by having a word with him. The government have stereotyped all teenage boys into being a thug when if you actualy got to know them they arent, your all having a go at these people when none of you are saying anything about the MEN 31 + who stabbed fighter :S wtf is that about?! what about the men who go round beating up young childern? vicious attacks on the elderly, have any of these boys? no. People die every single day but just because it was in a middle of a street your all making a big issue out of it, and just because he didnt exactly have a clean record your all being idiots about it. If it happend to someone who had no history you'd be devistated but it wernt so yet again your stereotype. There was nothing wrong with fighter or any of the boys above, if a 30 year old bloke done weed in his spare time you'd think nothing of it, you wouldnt think anything of a bunch of 30 year old blokes going out and being loud aslong as they where dressed smart but just because young boys where dressed in hoodies etc being loud they are classed as THUGS...well they aint so i suggest you get over urselfs. They are all nice boys you just dont give them a chance.

Erastus, The Potato Couch says...
6:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08

It seems that Miss Lew and Mr Sluer are failing in this bout of verbal sparring.

Miss Lew: try a REAL battlefield and see how you like it.

Mr Sluer: you seem to be a nice boy but a little misguided.

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:13pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Katie wrote:
All you lot are going on about how they have to earn respect?! how can they earn it if none of you will give them a chance? i used to talk to some of the people mentioned above on msn and your all saying how they are 'wanna be gangstahs' well nah not really, like brutal has said you dont know what its like. Society thinks that boys who wear hoodies and tracksuit bottoms are automaticaly a trouble maker but wait one second its just a dress sence :S and society has made them feel like they are outcasts, i mean when i was yonger 15-16 i used to stay on the streets having a laugh with my mates, but that dont mean just because i was on the streets i was causing trouble because i wernt i was having a laugh with my friends, every teenager goes through that stage and grows out of it, some quicker than others. I dont see how you lot have the right to label boys as 'gangsters' and 'thugs' because of how they dress and the fact they are on the streets. Maybe if the government had got thier finger out thier **** and made things better for the youth of today and actualy funded places for the youth to go then there wouldnt be all this ****. Some of you people should maybe try a day in their shoes and see what they are like, and see what they have to go through because i can garentee you wouldnt find it fun. I've known one of the boys mentioned above for about 3/4 years and hes never done anything to me never made me feel scared or intimidated he was always a mate there when i needed him, when i was verbaly abused by some boy he sorted it out NOT BY FIGHTING but by having a word with him. The government have stereotyped all teenage boys into being a thug when if you actualy got to know them they arent, your all having a go at these people when none of you are saying anything about the MEN 31 + who stabbed fighter :S wtf is that about?! what about the men who go round beating up young childern? vicious attacks on the elderly, have any of these boys? no. People die every single day but just because it was in a middle of a street your all making a big issue out of it, and just because he didnt exactly have a clean record your all being idiots about it. If it happend to someone who had no history you'd be devistated but it wernt so yet again your stereotype. There was nothing wrong with fighter or any of the boys above, if a 30 year old bloke done weed in his spare time you'd think nothing of it, you wouldnt think anything of a bunch of 30 year old blokes going out and being loud aslong as they where dressed smart but just because young boys where dressed in hoodies etc being loud they are classed as THUGS...well they aint so i suggest you get over urselfs. They are all nice boys you just dont give them a chance.
WELL SAID, ITS TRU STORIES STILL

Katie, Kent says...
6:17pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Thank you sluer (:
All the people who are saying everything about fighter and you lot are wrong, i used to talk to brutal and hes never done me any harm, your all decent boys with good hearts. Yeah you've made mistakes but so has everyone and they idiots should reaslise it. By the way renzo aka ben said hi lol. Everyone being stupid and vicious should shh because you really know nothing about it.

Erastus, The Cucumber Couch says...
6:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear Katie. I began to read your comment but became so bored when I reached the third line that I could stand it no longer. Hope you don't mind x

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08

ERASTUS JUST BECAUSE YOU PLAYED CALL OF DUTY DOESNT MEAN YOU WAS IN THE ARMY BY THE WAY

Katie, Kent says...
6:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus, you bore me with your crap about how you've gone to war when you obviously havent. Your a closed minded pathetic little idiot with nothing better to do than try to make a name for yourself on the news shopper website HAHA IDIOT mate, grow yourself a pair of **** and have some sympothy. Your a immature little fool so fudge off.

Erastus, The Carrot Couch says...
6:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Miss Lew, just out of interest, on average how many questions can you answer on Junior Mastermind? Or is that still a little advanced? I guess I had not bother asking you your average on Uni Challenge.

lew, says...
6:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08

oi sluer u got that straight but i reckon hes more of a medal of honour guy?

Erastus, The Lettuce couch says...
6:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Actually, Katie, it is spelt SYMPATHY. And not so much of the 'little'.

Lozziee, says...
6:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08

To thee mum of 4 from thamesmead saying that im "ignorant" and look lovee go away.. if all you wanna do is come on here and hate about someone who is DEAD then your the sick one your the one that needs to sort yourself out.. infact anyone coming on her saying he was scum.. you didnt say it when he was alive so why say it now? cos he cant fight back? no matter how many mistakes people make in their lives they dont deserve to be stabbed you stupid retard ..
RIP Fighterr x

lew, says...
6:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08

oi sluer how eracuntuss cant hack us and he has 2 try pick on the girl? lol i bet hes on halo now loool

Erastus, The Pineapple Warehouse says...
6:27pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Mr Sluer. Why are you wasting your time on here when you could be out on the street saving poor, misguided souls like our dead friend?

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

YOU ANSWER ME THE SAME QUESTION???

lew, says...
6:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08

eracuntuss? add me on msn ickle.lew@hotmail.co
.uk

Erastus, The Kitchen says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear misguided Lozziee. I did not know him when he was alive so I am making up for lost time. Okay?

lew, says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

yeh exacli sluer. hes like some spotty 13 year old who dropped out who sits around gettin **** on stella all day while playing call of duty on xbox live loool n when hes had enuf of dat he starts giving it 2 girls looooool

Erastus, The Kitchen says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Dear misguided Lozziee. I did not know him when he was alive so I am making up for lost time. Okay?

Erastus, The Off Licence says...
6:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Sticks and stones ...

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
Dear misguided Lozziee. I did not know him when he was alive so I am making up for lost time. Okay?
ERASTUS, YOU ARE A BIT OF A BONEHEAD ~_~ YOU JUST KEEP TALKIN ALOT OF RUBBISH...

Erastus, The Pub says...
6:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I guess the deceased knew all about sticks and stones, didn't he? Especially when he aimed them at innocent kids and pensioners.

Lozziee, says...
6:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Oh yeahh and to the people saying they blame the parentss well.. i bloody blame yours forr how heartless you are ! seriously.. this aint for people to HATE on retards

RIP Fighter x

karen, abbeywood says...
6:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08

The sooner people like this so called "Soilder" are off our streets the better.

When 3 young inocent teens died in tat crash on new years day people were asking where were their parents well wwhere were "fighterrrs" parents when he was out attacking OAPS and young girls

R.I.P all the true soilders who are out fighting for queen and country who have been totally disrespected by this scumbag who liked to think he was a soilder

SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Erastus wrote:
I guess the deceased knew all about sticks and stones, didn't he? Especially when he aimed them at innocent kids and pensioners.
IM SURE HE WE WOULD OF ALL BEAT YOU UP :) AND LIKE THUGS YES WE WOULD HAVE STAMPED YOU OUT IF YOU KEPT OPENIN YOUR MOUTH :)

Lozziee, says...
6:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Omg Erastus go away :|
your really do chat waffle dontt yahh..

tami, se9 says...
6:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08

i think this page only deserves messages from his friends and does not need our time. why dont u all have a look at the main headline and sit back and just take a moment to think of a INOCENT kid that lost his life today instead of giving this lad any of yr time.

lew, eracuntus' daughters room ;) says...
6:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08

seriously stop picking on chicks and add my msn u computer programmer

lou, kent says...
7:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08

my friend and her 5yr old son was walking past welling school to visit her sister one evening, fighterrr and some of his boys were hanging about. fighterrr started throwing stones at my friend and her 5yr old son. her son was crying, EVEN though the others in the group tokld him to stop because he was scaring the boy fighterrrs reply was so **** what i don't care. so i'm sorry you tell me why we should **** care about his death......?

HIZBAWLER, WTFF says...
7:07pm Wed 9 Jan 08

LOU??
UR CONFUSED
U DONT EVEN KNOW FIGHTER
WAKE UP
STOP MAKIN UR SELF SEEM IMPORTANT

The Real Erastus, Out says...
7:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08

A shame people had to stoop so low to score a point.

Bye all.

Lozziee, says...
7:24pm Wed 9 Jan 08

LOU.. YOUR MATE HAS TO BE ATLEAST 20 YE?
SO HOW WUD SHE NOE WHO FIGHTERR IS ?
& I DONTT BELEAVE DAHT AT ALL SORRRRRY

HIZBAWLER, AGREEIN says...
7:27pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Lozziee wrote:
LOU.. YOUR MATE HAS TO BE ATLEAST 20 YE?
SO HOW WUD SHE NOE WHO FIGHTERR IS ?
& I DONTT BELEAVE DAHT AT ALL SORRRRRY
ALIEE
STR8 UP WIT U ON DIS ONE B

Lozziee, says...
7:30pm Wed 9 Jan 08

I SWEAR.. PEOPLE JUSTT TRYNA FIND A REASON TO MAKEE FIGHTER LOOK BAD WEHN HE RELE WERENT

anon, erith says...
7:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08

he got wot was coming to him he did deal drugs all types thats why he was at that flat he was a low life bully and so r his mates you cant tell any one one man stabs 3 teenagers for nothing
quote

Hippie, woolwich says...
7:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08

There's a lot of love in this forum.

Increase the peace!

Lozziee, says...
7:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08

YOU WOULD BE SURPRISEDD LOVE
AND I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYIN "HE GOT WAH WAS CUMIN TO HIM"
NARR MATE.. NO ONEE DESERVES TO GET STABBEDD !
ANDD WHY YU GOTTR SAY HIS MATES ARE LOW LIFES?
YU DUNN NOEE DHEMM :S

sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
7:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08

anon wrote:
he got wot was coming to him he did deal drugs all types thats why he was at that flat he was a low life bully and so r his mates you cant tell any one one man stabs 3 teenagers for nothing
quote
I BULLY DA BIG BULLIES NO LONGG

BIG ERAUT, Erirth says...
7:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08

sluer FOOL i think you will be RIP soon fool Guys all you have to do is look at You tube at the IVS they are all fools and will all end up dead or in jail they all sell drugs and why because they are idiots and that is that so IVS RIP.. in HELL

SLUERRRR, DEPTFORDDDDDDDD says...
7:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08

BIG ERAUT wrote:
sluer FOOL i think you will be RIP soon fool Guys all you have to do is look at You tube at the IVS they are all fools and will all end up dead or in jail they all sell drugs and why because they are idiots and that is that so IVS RIP.. in HELL
IL RIDE JAIL LIKE ITS A SURF BOARD NO LONG!!!

3 ALL DA HMP MANDEM!!

GLOCKMAN
MUKIE
DARKIE
BILLY
KUET
KONAN
BIG BIKES
HEAPZ
AND DA REST OF DA RIDERSSSSSSS!!!

WHE YOU SAY RIP TO ME I HOPE YOU MEAN ROT IN PAIN!

IM GOING TO HELL.

IV BEEN A SINNER FROM DAY DOT..

BUT YOU NEED TO REALISE YOUR NOT NEWUN SPECIAL I DONT HARM PEOPLE THAT HAVNT HARMED ME I DONT ROB OLD GRANNYS JUS KEEP THAT IN MIND IM NOT A MUG.

Lozziee, says...
7:50pm Wed 9 Jan 08

WHYY HATE ONN HERE ?
SERIOUSS WAHS THE POINT?

Tina, Bexleyheath says...
8:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08

Katie, you said fund (places) for the youths of today... so i guess you meant youth clubs etc, what about all the other clubs that are available to kids also as im sure lots will agree that there is far more now for kids to do than there was 25 years ago. Judo, Aerobics, Swimming,Army Cadets, Naval Cadets,Athletics,Roc
k climbing, Football or what about evening courses for plastering, carpentry, arts and crafts or maybe even stay at home with a good book, you know its called READING, feed their brains with a bit of knowledge, not sitting on street corners talking about who's going out with who, or who is going to be beaten up next. Dont say it costs money to do these things and that they cant afford it, most of them can afford to buy fags regular and even alcohol of which we see so much of now on the streets and where do they get there money from, prob from either stealing it from their mothers purse or selling a stolen mobile or two that they have just mugged some innocent of, or maybe signing on and never trying to move on in life. They should earn their money from their parents like my kids do from me, i do 90% of things for my kids but they earn their pocket money by doing the odd little job for me which will eventually benefit their own family's one day of what they have learnt to do and be independent and not have to rely on anyone else in life as my parents did for my brothers and i. Another thing, i agree its the fashion for kids to wear hooded sweat tops tracksuits etc although i dont know why lots have to wear baggy trousers around there knees showing off their backsides for all to see and they look so ridiculous but tell me why as soon as any sign of the police they automatically pull their hoods up and walk away which so makes them look guilty of something,or that they were about to, or have been up to no good. At the end of the day i say dont let your kids be street kids full stop, keep them away from the no hopers that are out there that have been dragged up that know no different and dont want to know any different. There are lots of good kids and family's out there for sure but the bad ones that mug, intimidate, hurt, and bully innocent ones with guns and knives, well as far as im concerned ship them all off to their own island and let them all get on with mugging each other etc and leave our little darlings alone that dont interfere with or hurt anyone. I say its time that other countrys take in the refugees now.I think they should introduce public flogging, see how the scum bags out there react at being tied to the clock tower on the broadway and publicly given 30 lashes, i reckon it would sort alot of problems out pronto, but dear mr brown wont be having that will he, this country has started to go crazy.