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3:04pm Tuesday 8th January 2008
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MURDERED teenager Faridon Alizada made videos of himself happy slapping people and fighting before posting them on the internet.
The 18-year-old, who was also known by the nickname Fighterrr, was a member of a gang of teenagers who call themselves IVS and posted videos of their exploits on YouTube.
However, police say they do not think his murder was gang-related.
The video clips on YouTube featuring the murdered youth are called Fighterrr and are numbered from one to 15.
Most of the clips feature him talking to camera, posturing and bragging to camera in the style of a gangster rapper.
In some clips he smokes and attempts to break wooden planks and bricks with his hands.
One clip - Fighterrr6 - shows him fighting another youth in a piece of farce that ends with him trying to pull down the boy's tracksuit trousers.
Fighterrr8 includes a voiceover saying "happy slap TV", and shows Mr Alizada running up to a boy playing football in the park and hitting him in the head.
In a clip that features the group of youths calling themselves IVS riding on the top of a bus, Mr Alizada - aka Fighterrr - is mentioned by name and makes a gun gesture at the camera with his hand.
Other clips of the IVS gang show them involved in fights with other groups of youths.
The initals IVS apparently stand for Invincible Soldiers.
One of the brawls takes place at a bus stop in which most of the people involved are wearing school uniform and another happens in a park.
Mr Alizada, who came to the area from Afghanistan, was a pupil at Abbey Wood School, Eynsham Drive, Abbey Wood, until July 2006.
Headteacher Susan Harry said: "We are distressed to learn the sad news about Faridon, an ex-pupil, and regret that his life has been so tragically cut short.
"Our deepest sympathy and thoughts are with his family at this time."
K, says...
3:54pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Sunny, London says...
3:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08
J, London says...
4:16pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Lauren wrote:Have to agree with you! I'm a teenager myself & i don't understand most teenagers these days, All they want to do is act like animals.
He was a well nice boy ? NOT.
Rodney, pauls cray says...
4:21pm Tue 8 Jan 08
The ReV, Erith says...
5:12pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Anon, Belvedere says...
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Harry, Gravesend says...
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Harry, Bromley says...
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The ReV wrote:Maybe his parents let him down - so that's his fault right? When I saw the videos I was struck by the giggling sycophantic cameraman, and also the false bravado of the boy himself. Whilst I think he probably was a lowlife I still feel uneasy at people like you so quick to judge. Is there not potential in everyone?
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Judge not, lest ye be judged\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" er..Nope. A person is judged by their actions but then we can swap pith comments till the cows come home. If you want to play at being a \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"big boy\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" then your going to get hurt. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s harder to be a man than it is to just posturing and bully. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance and zero point to his existance. Where was his parents?
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paul, abbey wood says...
9:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08
paul, abbey wood says...
9:59pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Lozziee wrote:for christ's sake learn to spell
No matter what, Fraidon dont deservee all the hate youu people are posting on here! aint you got anything better to do other then hate on someone thats died ? You wouldnt of said it to him when he was alive so why say it now? your just proving how sad and pathetic youu are! Grow up and get a lifee RIP Fighter Another Fallen Soldier </3 x
Matt, 248-923 says...
10:09pm Tue 8 Jan 08
David, Kent says...
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J, LONDON says...
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cassie, bromley says...
10:57pm Tue 8 Jan 08
paul, se2 says...
11:07pm Tue 8 Jan 08
J wrote:i second that
Newsshopper should up-grade their shop-a-yob campaign to shop-a- violent-thug who terrorises our streets campaign.
Paul, says...
11:13pm Tue 8 Jan 08
J wrote:Thats a good idea.
Newsshopper should up-grade their shop-a-yob campaign to shop-a- violent-thug who terrorises our streets campaign.
Mum of 4, Thamesmead says...
11:20pm Tue 8 Jan 08
Lozziee wrote:Are you a small child or have you never attended school? Your spelling and grammer is appalling I could hardly read a word of your sad attempt to condone that animals behavior. Sickening! (you sound like Vicky Pollard)
OMG! Shupp bout all diss be quiet ! youu just cant handle the fact that im right and your bloody rong!.. bum lik im ? yeye rightt dhenn.. no mate your just a heartless pafetic little person that jams at the computer 24/7 hating on someone thats just died and that you noe cant fight back! Haha you wouldnt of said anything to him and you know it ! so just go away cos RIP Fighter x
Joe, Thamesmead says...
11:24pm Tue 8 Jan 08
James wrote:None of us are god! not even these gang members who belive they are! it is a waste of human life. People chose their path in life and this lad along with many others chose to be in a gang that brags about stabbing and shooting people (look on you tube) it is true that what goes around comes around. Things will only get worse until people are accountable for their actions. He chose to threaten and bully other people so it came back to him. Whilst like I say its a waste of human life I will not be losing any sleep over it. Im sick of these thugs running riot on the streets...send them all to island with their waepons and there hard man attitude and let them fight it out between them. Erith and the rest of the country will be a better place without them
Just one question for all you that have posted comments, WHICH ONE OF YOU ARE GOD? a human being as been killed by someone, be it that they where good or bad someone has killed him and all you can say is that he deserves it. NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE I feel sorry for you all and to what this country is becoming.
t, erith says...
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me lol, somewere round but not with him says...
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Clifford Etter, Orpington says...
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mum of 4, Thamesmead says...
12:18am Wed 9 Jan 08
Ben wrote:Thakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn't notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody's perfect
mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to school
DZYER, says...
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Cousin's friend, says...
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Wazpy, says...
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J, LONDON says...
12:51am Wed 9 Jan 08
DZYER IVS RIP FIGHTERRR, says...
12:54am Wed 9 Jan 08
mum of 4 wrote:OU STILL SPELL WRONG LOVE SO PLEASE SHUT UP OF IS SPELT WITH 1 F
Ben wrote:Thakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn\'t notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody\'s perfect
mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to school
BRUTAL IVS, says...
12:54am Wed 9 Jan 08
Ben, kent says...
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BILL, eltham says...
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Cynical, earth says...
2:37am Wed 9 Jan 08
lewis, Orpington says...
3:14am Wed 9 Jan 08
Lauren wrote:look if it means dat much 2 u i reported it. i dint realize it sed **** about killin wen i sent it so chill. n i aint stirred any hate up theres enuf hate here he rote dat out of hate the first comment. u gotta understand presha n fighter where like brothers picture some1 sayin dat about ure brother ud be **** 2 like b4 if dat affended u or ne1 apologies but loook at all thhe coments sayin he deserved 2 die
He was a well nice boy ? NOT.
katie, kent says...
3:24am Wed 9 Jan 08
PRESHARRR, woolwich says...
3:24am Wed 9 Jan 08
Cynical, earth says...
3:40am Wed 9 Jan 08
lenny, welling says...
4:03am Wed 9 Jan 08
Cynical, earth says...
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mr immagrant, - says...
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Erastus Piggott, The Altar says...
8:06am Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Bed says...
8:11am Wed 9 Jan 08
Cece, says...
9:06am Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee wrote:I so agree with you. I've known fighter for time & he is a cool guy. Your all wrong for sayin that he deserves to die, at the end of the day nobody deserves what happend 2 him. People who sign this & agree that he does are worthless & OBVIOUSLY don't no who he really was
No matter what, Fraidon dont deservee all the hate youu people are posting on here! aint you got anything better to do other then hate on someone thats died ? You wouldnt of said it to him when he was alive so why say it now? your just proving how sad and pathetic youu are! Grow up and get a lifee RIP Fighter Another Fallen Soldier </3 x
Mum, Abbey Wood says...
9:15am Wed 9 Jan 08
A Grown up, Thamesmead says...
9:33am Wed 9 Jan 08
DZYER IVS RIP FIGHTERRR wrote:Grow up, get a jod/education. Get help to get out of trouble or you will end up like your lover Fighterrrrrrrrr. You pick on people in the streets now you bring your silly childish games on here to bully others!! GROW UP!!
mum of 4 wrote:OU STILL SPELL WRONG LOVE SO PLEASE SHUT UP OF IS SPELT WITH 1 FBen wrote: mum of 4 from thamesmad, you cant spell either. Grammar is spelt GRAMMAR not GRAMMER and MURDERED not MURDED go back to schoolThakns for your comments BEN Point taken I can spell and went to school (most off the time) it is late I have been running round after 4 kids all day give us a break, lol. At least the content was in English unlike most on here with their unreadable street chat. I didn\'t notice my errors until I clicked post! Nobody\'s perfect
general kitchener, war office says...
10:05am Wed 9 Jan 08
baller, kent says...
10:16am Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Sofa says...
10:18am Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Armchair says...
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birchman, kent says...
10:24am Wed 9 Jan 08
Angry, Barnehurst says...
10:26am Wed 9 Jan 08
The ReV wrote:Well said! totally agree
\"Judge not, lest ye be judged\" er..Nope. A person is judged by their actions but then we can swap pith comments till the cows come home. If you want to play at being a \"big boy\" then your going to get hurt. It\'s harder to be a man than it is to just posturing and bully. Zero sympathy, zero tolerance and zero point to his existance. Where was his parents?
Erastus, The bog says...
10:27am Wed 9 Jan 08
baller, kent says...
10:28am Wed 9 Jan 08
Angry, Barnehurst says...
10:31am Wed 9 Jan 08
... wrote:He may have died but what was he upto??Perhaps he was happy slapping again and this person fought back.Deserves everything he got and one less scumbag on our streets
have some bloody respect ... the boy just died he may not have been a saint but no one deserves to die ... if it was somone related to you and you found out they done the same i bet you would not be saying this ...you people are pathetic
No name, says...
10:33am Wed 9 Jan 08
PRESHARRR wrote:Presharrr You are a member of the IVS what is going to happen now?
look all ave gotta say is dat all u lot r heartless am tellin u d boi did rong fngs but so have i ave been stabbed b4 4 no reason i dnt care but u lot juss cozz he mite ave done rong fings soon as he dies u lot get a boner i seriously dnt now how u lot can do dat even if ma worst enemy died i wud still show respect u lot dnt realise dat u r talking bad about a dead person but its kool doe memba wah goes around comes around rip ma boi 4 life till the next 1 aswell
baller, kent says...
10:34am Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:u dnt nah fighterrr den do u u helm na wun deserves ta die but e woz a horrible person n sum people will b glad ta c the bk off him
To all the toy soldiers: yawn. I would like to see all of you stabbed to death. In fact, I would pay for a ringside seat.
Angry, says...
10:35am Wed 9 Jan 08
baller wrote:What! Moron, LOSER. Obviously a no brain member of YRA. Baller go an get a life
ow yeah this messeage goes ta all the peeps finkin it woz yra n wsb man u need ta get your facts rite it wernt eny of us ow yea n yra dnt stand 4 yunger rebal attakes it is yunger rufles attak
Erastus, The Bath says...
10:36am Wed 9 Jan 08
keptkid, temple hill says...
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Erastus, The Stairs says...
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Resident, Local says...
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Angry, says...
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Matt wrote:Couldnt have said it better! Do gooders make my blood boil!!
It never surprises me that these stories are always followed up by comments from do gooders! I expect that they are all speaking from a privileged position where they have never been on the receiving end of a nasty thug. If they had been given a kicking in the street by a gang for fun they I expect they would have a different opinion!
19yroldgirl, Bexleyheath says...
11:23am Wed 9 Jan 08
Anon, says...
11:59am Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08
......., London says...
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MAN LIKE SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Reggie, plumstead says...
12:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Reggie wrote:DID I NOT SAY I DO NOT ATTACK PEOPLE, I DO NOT AIM TO HURT INNOCENT PEOPLE.. IF YOU WANT TO TRY BAD ME UP. IM NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ON THE CHIN.
Sleurrr,
Get your point to a certain extent, but there are a lot of people who are poor who DON'T choose to rob or shoot. Anyway it's one thing robbing to feed yourself, quite another punching random innocent people and generally bullying people. Not saying that's what this lad did (though some people are saying he did), but there are choices in life. Bad guidance.
BRUTAL, says...
12:33pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Wazpy, says...
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BRUTAL, says...
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Erastus, In Bed says...
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Erastus, The Bar says...
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brutal, says...
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mt to brutal, says...
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lee, orpington says...
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T, watching says...
12:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
12:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:WHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S.
I don't think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language.
Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people's relief. Real gangsters don't wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don't actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business.
These 'gangstas' are just kids who are the result of our 'caring society'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny.
The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days.
I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me.
Erastus
BRUTAL, says...
1:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08
mt to brutal wrote:2 BE HONEST ITS ALL DOWN 2 YOUTHS WANTING POWER AND RESPECT... ITS BECAUSE KIDS THESE DAYS ARE ALL THINKING THEY HAVE 2 BE SOMEONE IN LIFE AS A KID... ITS BECAUSE IF YOUR FROM A CERTAIN POSTCODE AND YOU GO TO ANOTHER POSTCODE WHO DONT LIKE A GANG FROM YOUR POSTCODE YOUR AUTOMATICALLY DRAGGED INTO AND BEAT UP WHICH BRINGS REVENGE AND REDEMPTION... THATS WHY ITS HARD 2 GO OTHER AREAS BECAUSE EVERY1 IS ON SOME BIG HYPE ABOUT BEING THE HARDEST IN THERE AREA... BUT 2 BE HONEST WHAT ARE THE GOVERNMENT DOING FOR TROUBLED YOUTHS THERE LETTIN US KILL EACHOTHER BECAUSE THATS ANOTHER "SCUM KID" OFF THE EARTH N OUT OF THERE COMMUNITY WE ARE OUTCASTS...
didnt think i would say this but i feel sorry for you and the youngsters of today, i feel scared because your generation is the future, it doesnt give us much confidence when you are all involved in this gang culture, you sound like you want out - dont blame you, if only there could be peace-what is it with this post code war ? it sounds so stupid, people are entitled to go anywhere arnt they ? so why cant they?
tasha, sidcup says...
1:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
mt, says...
1:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Steve, at work (a novel concept for some of you! says...
1:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
tasha wrote:THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS..
i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn't give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don't see anything wrong with what he did, if you don't see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don't think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!
me, erith says...
1:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Steve wrote:WHOS "PLAYGROUND SPEAKING"
Dear Erastus,
You are truly scholar keep up the good blogging!
To many of the rest of you - learn to speak and write ENGLISH, many of you are almost completely Incomprehensible. A recurring theme seems to be a desire for respect; you'll need to get people to take you seriously first - dropping the 'playground speak' might help!
SLUERRRR, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08
me wrote:IM STILL IN COLLEGE SO PLEASE COME CORRECT AND REPHRASE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT US. YOU WOULD BE SUPRISED HOW CLEVER SOME OF US ARE, WE MAY NOT SHOW IT BUT THE INTELIGENCE IS IN US.. ALL OF US THAT USED TO HANG AROUND ARE ALL AT COLLEGE OR WORKING SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT TALK RUBBISH
if these so called \'gangsters\' want respect, stop the violence, stop with the big talk and go back to school, get a good education and be nice to everyone! it is people like these that get the respect they deserve! respect isn\'t knowing people are scared of you, respect is treating others how you want to be treated and seen as a good person. i jus see this is another scum off our streets. now for the rest of them......
Steve, As before says...
1:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:Silver,
Steve wrote: Dear Erastus, You are truly scholar keep up the good blogging! To many of the rest of you - learn to speak and write ENGLISH, many of you are almost completely Incomprehensible. A recurring theme seems to be a desire for respect; you\\\'ll need to get people to take you seriously first - dropping the \\\'playground speak\\\' might help!WHOS \\\"PLAYGROUND SPEAKING\\\" IM FAR FROM AN ADULT. I WONT LIE IM STILL IN A TEENAGERS FRAME OF MIND.. IM 16.. BUT I REALISE SOME THINGS ARE WRONG SOMETHINGS ARE RITE. AT THE MOMENT I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG KEEP SLAGGING US OFF.. I WONT LIE BUT THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE GET HURT.. SILLY STUFF LIKE THIS IS WHY SOME PEOPLE NOW DAYS END UP DEAD. I DONT SEE WHY YOU HAVE TO TRY SAY THAT WE A IMMATURE OR WHATEVER YOUD LIKE TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE STOOPING DOWN TO THAT LEVEL YOURSELF BY TRYING TO MUG US OFF.. SORRY BUT YOU ARE WRONG.
Jon, Deptford- hahaha says...
1:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08
MAN LIKE SLUER wrote:Hahaha, the person is right. If the real GANGSTERS get hold of ya, you will know about it. I know as me family grew up in the area and know some of the not so nice people if you cross them or their familys. So come mess with the kids on the streets there and you never know you may cross the wrong person. Sounds like your so called mate did! haha
I CHILL IN DEPTFORD WHAT IS THIS RUBBISH UR TALKING??? AND IF I WENT TO PECKHAM ID GET KILLED.. I KNO DIS.. ITS CALLED A BOROUGH SITUATION PECKHAM AND DEPTFORD DO NOT GET ON, I THINK YOU NEED TO REALISE YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE STREETS. YOUR FAR FROM STREET WISE, AND IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH SITUATIONS LIKE SOME OF US GUYS HAVE.. SO FIX UP AND DONT TRY MUG ME OFF
Rob, London says...
1:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Jon wrote:I DONT SEE WHATS FUNNY ABOUT DEATH??
MAN LIKE SLUER wrote:Hahaha, the person is right. If the real GANGSTERS get hold of ya, you will know about it. I know as me family grew up in the area and know some of the not so nice people if you cross them or their familys. So come mess with the kids on the streets there and you never know you may cross the wrong person. Sounds like your so called mate did! haha
I CHILL IN DEPTFORD WHAT IS THIS RUBBISH UR TALKING??? AND IF I WENT TO PECKHAM ID GET KILLED.. I KNO DIS.. ITS CALLED A BOROUGH SITUATION PECKHAM AND DEPTFORD DO NOT GET ON, I THINK YOU NEED TO REALISE YOU DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE STREETS. YOUR FAR FROM STREET WISE, AND IM SURE THAT YOU HAVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH SITUATIONS LIKE SOME OF US GUYS HAVE.. SO FIX UP AND DONT TRY MUG ME OFF
Erastus, The Shed says...
1:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, the Loft says...
1:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:33pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SLUE
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper?
Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:35pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:A LOAD*
Erastus wrote:WWW.MYSPACE.COM/SLUE
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper?
Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
RBEATS
ABOUT NOT REAL GANG MEMBERS??
LAST YEAR YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN ME RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN..
LIKE IV SAID ALREADY..
IM TRYING TO CHANGE
TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION AND DO WELL.. IV NOTICED THE BAD THINGS IN LIFE AND IM STEERING CLEAR FROM THEM. "ERASTUS" PLEASE STOP TALKIN ALOUD OF ****
19yrold, Bexleyheath says...
1:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Don't talk rubbish, London says...
1:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER??
Erastus wrote: I don't think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language. Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people's relief. Real gangsters don't wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don't actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business. These 'gangstas' are just kids who are the result of our 'caring society'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny. The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days. I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me. ErastusWHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S. I CANT BARE TO READ WHAT YOUR TALKIN ABOUT EITHER.. ITS COMPLETE NONSENSE. WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER?? WHO SAID ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?? YOU JUST ASSUME A COUPLE OF KIDS HAVING A LAUGH IS ANTI SOCIAL? YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO? IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS?? REALISE YOU ARE NOT MAKING THINGS ANY BETTER BY SLAGGIN US OFF, YOUR JUST MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE. IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH. AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL PROBERLY SAY THAT IS ANTI SOCIAL ASWELL.. IM NOT GOING TO LIE I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME WAYS BUT YOU TALK ALOT OF RUBBISH ABOUT GANGSTER THIS GANGSTER THAT.. ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE. ITS ASIF YOUR STEREOTYPING ALL OF US BOYS THAT USED TO HANG AROUND TOGETHER AS THE SAME PERSON, SHOTTING TO MAKE MONEY?? ITS FAR FROM THATTTT, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO OR STILL DO HANG AROUND WITH THE GROUP.
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:42pm Wed 9 Jan 08
19yrold wrote:IM SURE I HAVNT..
All this post-code wars is nonsense. I live in Bexley, but I sure as hell could walk round where I want to. If I got mugged or stabbed or anything else it would be down to the thugs doing it, and not because of my postcode - how would they know?!?!
It's the kids going round dressed like flipping idiots and attracting attention to themselves that 9 times out of 10 will be targeted.
You go on bout post code wars, but how many friends of yours have personalised hats or t-shirts with their post-codes on?! I've seen many so I'm sure you have too!
Erastus, The Kitchen says...
1:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:47pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Don\'t talk rubbish wrote:YOU HAVNT GOT ANYTHING YOU SAID THERE RIGHT..
SLUER wrote:WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER??
Erastus wrote: I don\'t think I can bear to read anymore of this gangsta language. Let me sum up. A nasty, deviant, violent, threatening, worthless piece of trash has been snuffed out, much to the majority of people\'s relief. Real gangsters don\'t wear hoodies and hang about on street corners, neither do they attack innocent children in parks or the elderly. REAL gangsters don\'t actually want people to know about their activities and prefer to stay in the background because it makes for good business. These \'gangstas\' are just kids who are the result of our \'caring society\'. They know the police have had all their powers taken away and the PCSOs have about as much clout as my aunt Fanny. The police should be allowed to get them by the scruffs of their necks, sling them in the back of a van and giving them a good kicking, just like the good old days. I dare say this will be answered with some unreadable nonsense but I hope someone has something sensible to say. It would be even better if they agreed with me. ErastusWHY TALK RUBBISH, PLEASE JUST STOP WITH YOUR B.S. I CANT BARE TO READ WHAT YOUR TALKIN ABOUT EITHER.. ITS COMPLETE NONSENSE. WHO SAID WE WANT BE GANGSTER?? WHO SAID ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES?? YOU JUST ASSUME A COUPLE OF KIDS HAVING A LAUGH IS ANTI SOCIAL? YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO? IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS?? REALISE YOU ARE NOT MAKING THINGS ANY BETTER BY SLAGGIN US OFF, YOUR JUST MAKING THE SITUATION WORSE. IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH. AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL PROBERLY SAY THAT IS ANTI SOCIAL ASWELL.. IM NOT GOING TO LIE I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME WAYS BUT YOU TALK ALOT OF RUBBISH ABOUT GANGSTER THIS GANGSTER THAT.. ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE. ITS ASIF YOUR STEREOTYPING ALL OF US BOYS THAT USED TO HANG AROUND TOGETHER AS THE SAME PERSON, SHOTTING TO MAKE MONEY?? ITS FAR FROM THATTTT, YOU NEED TO OPEN YOUR MIND AND SEE THAT NOT ALL OF US ARE THE SAME JUST BECAUSE WE USED TO OR STILL DO HANG AROUND WITH THE GROUP.
You are in a gang so therefor you are wannabe gangsters.
YOU NEED TO REALISE THERE IS NOTHING FOR US TO DO?
Never heard of a football, the game run outs, basket ball....there is endless stuff you can do!
IF YOU HAVE NO MONEY WHERE CAN YOU GO? IS THERE FUNDS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO OTHER THINGS??
You say your 16, get a job earn some money. Also money isn\'t everything. There are things you can do without money.
IM NOT A GANGSTER, IV NEVER WANTED TO BE. ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE MY MUSIC SMOKE SOME SKUNK AND GET HIGH.
You say you have no money....you can afford DRUGS!!
ITS LIKE MILLWALL HOOLIGANS THEY GO OUT BEATING PEOPLE UP FOR NO REASON? YOU DONT MENSION THE OTHER SIDE.
Millwall/Charlton/Cr
ystal Palace and even Leeds supporters have respect for others. You pick on school kids....you think that is right.
You want people to feel sorry for you! Then get help, get off the drugs, get a job, turn your life around. Do it for your mate that got murdered.
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
1:49pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:OK THAT IS NICE TO KNOW THAT YOU WISH THAT PEOPLE GET STABBED AND THEN CALL THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT SCUM??
Dear Mr SLUER. I can honestly say I could not give a flying **** about your past or present life. Have we all got to congratulate for not 'RUNNIN AROUND THE STREETS FIGHTING AND MANY OTHER THINGS'? I wish you and all your mates could have been fatally stabbed. You no-hoperf scumbag!
Happy, Somewhere near says...
1:54pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Pavement says...
1:57pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Des, SE says...
1:58pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:YOU SHOULD BECOME A COMEDIAN..
Dear Mr Slue. I have visited your site. I like Monty Python too.
You are an excellent Troll, sir. Keep it up.
Erastus, The Greenhouse says...
2:05pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:07pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:YER DEFINATELY, VERY GOOD IDEA..
Thank you Mr Slue. Perhaps we should go into business together?
A better person than you, As far away from you as possible says...
2:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08
BRUTAL wrote:You have to earn respect don't you know? So someone who talks such sh!te like you will NEVER get any. The kids you probably look down on and beat up and intimidate are the ones who have everyones respect. NOT YOU. You've no-one but your pathetic little selves to blame.
DONT YOU LOT REALISE WE DONT RESPECT ANY1 COZ WERE NOT RESPECTED... MAYBE WHAT WEVE DONE DOESNT DESERVE RESPECT BUT WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING... ALL WE WANT IS FOR FIGHTER TO REST IN PEACE... CANT YOU SEE ITS HURTING US ALL... 2 LOSE A GOOD FREND A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY... MOST OF US ARE ON OUR LAST CHANCE 1 MORE THING WE GO PRISON... THAT IS NOTHING 2 BE PROUD OF!!! IM SURE WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY 2 MEET UP WITH THESE PPL AND TALK ABOUT GANG CULTURE N LIFE FOR TEENS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY WERE ALL OUTCASTS... NO1 HELPS US GET OUT THE STRUGGLE... SO WERE GUNNA BE THERE TIL THE DAY WE DIE OBVIOUSLY...
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08
A better person than you wrote:OK,
BRUTAL wrote:You have to earn respect don't you know? So someone who talks such sh!te like you will NEVER get any. The kids you probably look down on and beat up and intimidate are the ones who have everyones respect. NOT YOU. You've no-one but your pathetic little selves to blame.
DONT YOU LOT REALISE WE DONT RESPECT ANY1 COZ WERE NOT RESPECTED... MAYBE WHAT WEVE DONE DOESNT DESERVE RESPECT BUT WERE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING... ALL WE WANT IS FOR FIGHTER TO REST IN PEACE... CANT YOU SEE ITS HURTING US ALL... 2 LOSE A GOOD FREND A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY... MOST OF US ARE ON OUR LAST CHANCE 1 MORE THING WE GO PRISON... THAT IS NOTHING 2 BE PROUD OF!!! IM SURE WE WILL ALL BE HAPPY 2 MEET UP WITH THESE PPL AND TALK ABOUT GANG CULTURE N LIFE FOR TEENS BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY WERE ALL OUTCASTS... NO1 HELPS US GET OUT THE STRUGGLE... SO WERE GUNNA BE THERE TIL THE DAY WE DIE OBVIOUSLY...
And why are you writing in this stupid babyish language? You just make yourself look like a total w@nker to everyone. You want respect? Never in a million years mate.
You are pathetic!
tasha, sidcup says...
2:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:you think that starting fights and 'happy slapping' people are not attacks? im sorry but this sort of thing does not happen to the best of us! yes i have seen the videos and im sorry but yes it is easy to judge someone by these as you can see what he gets up to. if you don't want to be judged by others, then why put the videos on the internet or even do these things? he wanted people to see them so you must let people have their opinions.
tasha wrote: i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn\'t give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don\'t see anything wrong with what he did, if you don\'t see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don\'t think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. ME AND HIM FELL OUT.. WE WERNT KOOL.. BUT IM STILL GOING TO SHOW MY RESPECT.. AND THEY WHERE HARDLY ATTACKS.. PLAYING WITH FRIENDS. AND A TAP ON THE HEAD. TO A BOI HE KNEW? IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US.. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.. ITS NOT LIKE WE WAS ON THE STREET ATTAKING RANDOM PEOPLE.. ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT.. I CAN SEE U HAVE SEEN A BAD IMAGE OF HIM.. BUT HE WASNT AS YOU ARE PORTRAYING HIM.. YOU\'V SEEN A FEW VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE SOMEONE FROM THAT??? NOWAY! ITS FAR FROM THAT
Lee, Welling says...
2:22pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:Good point, although it's a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
Erastus, On the way to the lav says...
2:24pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08
tasha wrote:THEM VIDEOS ARENT OF ME SO ERMMM YER I THINK YOUR TELLING A DEAD PERSON THAT.. R.I.P FIGHTER
SLUER wrote:you think that starting fights and \'happy slapping\' people are not attacks? im sorry but this sort of thing does not happen to the best of us! yes i have seen the videos and im sorry but yes it is easy to judge someone by these as you can see what he gets up to. if you don\'t want to be judged by others, then why put the videos on the internet or even do these things? he wanted people to see them so you must let people have their opinions.
tasha wrote: i have never understood how people can defend those who has caused misery to others. there is video proof of him causing unprovoked attacks on innocent people and then puts it onto the internet to obv show how proud he is of it! that is pathetic and im sorry but he brought this on himself! i bet if he didn\\\'t give himself a name by doing all this s**t to people then this most probably would not of happened! i accept that his friends are proving to be good friends by defending him but you cannot honestly say that you don\\\'t see anything wrong with what he did, if you don\\\'t see anything wrong then you are as pathetic as him! i don\\\'t think parents should be blamed as they were probably not even aware of what he did, this is just how youths act these days as they seem to think they look good, but sadly it can cost people their lives, even their own!THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING IS.. ME AND HIM FELL OUT.. WE WERNT KOOL.. BUT IM STILL GOING TO SHOW MY RESPECT.. AND THEY WHERE HARDLY ATTACKS.. PLAYING WITH FRIENDS. AND A TAP ON THE HEAD. TO A BOI HE KNEW? IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US.. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL.. ITS NOT LIKE WE WAS ON THE STREET ATTAKING RANDOM PEOPLE.. ITS NOTHING LIKE THAT.. I CAN SEE U HAVE SEEN A BAD IMAGE OF HIM.. BUT HE WASNT AS YOU ARE PORTRAYING HIM.. YOU\\\'V SEEN A FEW VIDEOS AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUDGE SOMEONE FROM THAT??? NOWAY! ITS FAR FROM THAT
maybe you didn\'t pray on strangers but this does not make this behaviour anymore acceptable. you must understand that with the increase of gang violence even small groups of youths can be mistaken as a gang now because it is far too common so please don\'t be offended that you are considered as part of gang (or used to be).
you have my respect as you got out of that culture, but now get everyones. try and quit the green, instead save the EMA money for when you can start driving lessons or something else you enjoy, try harder for a job and instead of giving \'gangs\' excuses and making it look like your defending them, stop writing on here and maybe start a club or something to try and stop youths from going in the direction you did!
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee wrote:SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?
Erastus wrote:Good point, although it\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee, Welling says...
2:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:Pardon?
Lee wrote:SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?Good point, although it\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee wrote:I STRONGLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT POINT..
SLUER wrote:Pardon?
Lee wrote:SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?Good point, although it\\\\\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
:)
And back to point..... I do find it heart breaking that this life has been cut short due to street violence.
I believe it is time that the government step in and take action.
There is a great need for the 14-17 year age groups to be productively occupied.
Youth groups, social activities, community activities.... something positive should come from this lads death.
Ideas anyone?
Anita, Dartford says...
2:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08
?*?, London City says...
2:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee wrote:
SLUER wrote:Pardon? :) And back to point..... I do find it heart breaking that this life has been cut short due to street violence. I believe it is time that the government step in and take action. There is a great need for the 14-17 year age groups to be productively occupied. Youth groups, social activities, community activities.... something positive should come from this lads death. Ideas anyone?Lee wrote:SO YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING, NO?Erastus wrote: I am amazed that any of you actually believe these are real gang members typing on here. Do any of you really believe that scumbag kids will be reading an online local newspaper? Lee probably does. What is your surname Lee, Walton?Good point, although it\\\'s a shame, because if they were on here, at least we would know that they could read, as for writing, I cannot understand the language they use at all.
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
2:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Anita wrote:WEV HAD THIS ARGUEMENT AND IF YOU DIDNT GET THE POINT ALREADY..
Calling all you "brave soldiers". The British Army needs you where "real soldiers" are fighting in Iraq etc, be careful now they might notice your yellow streak running down your back! They dont take kindly to arseholes who happy slap or rob old women cos they are too thick to get a job and pay for something out of their own pocket. One down only another ? to go. Mind how you go now.
charllie, b.heath says...
3:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
zaccc, abbey wood says...
3:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
The Lord Jericho, England apparently? says...
3:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
The Lord Jericho, England - Apparently? says...
3:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
charllie wrote:I counted 20 real words there - can anyone beat that?
y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr
Anita, Dartford says...
3:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
BRUTAL, says...
3:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08
charllie wrote:I HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU ARE SO PLEASE STOP TALKING LIKE YOU KNOW ME THANKS
y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrr
tasha, sidcup says...
3:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER wrote:im glad that you are trying to make a difference but where did i say that i have never made a mistake? of course i have but i have never created violence for the sake of it and i don't talk to people that do either as i know that somehow i would get dragged into it. i wouldn't call hanging around with a group that behaves like this a mistake either. you wanted to hang around with them so it was intentional. i think mistake is the wrong word to use. maybe regret should be there.
MY BAD TASHA I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID.. THE THING IS I ACTUALLY DO I HAVE A STUDIO AND I HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LET YOUTH FROM ROUND THERE AREA USE IT. TRYING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREET ROBBIN PEOPLE AND TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING. BUT YOUR TALKIN AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER MADE MISTAKES? STOP WITH THAT TALK EVERYONE HAS..
Sue, Blackheath says...
4:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
The Lord Jericho wrote:Yes its 32 !
charllie wrote: y is every wun sain it woz yra man i am yra i na it wernt me i woz sleepin man so next people shud shut there mouths n evan thow fighterr tried stabbin me in woolwich wen i woz wif wun of mi bois na wun dseves ta die i na e woz bad but sum bois like brutal aka chris new him evan doe thay all chased me up b.heath all i gota ta saiii r.i.p fighterrrI counted 20 real words there - can anyone beat that?
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
4:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
tasha wrote:and when have i created violence for the sake of it?
SLUER wrote:im glad that you are trying to make a difference but where did i say that i have never made a mistake? of course i have but i have never created violence for the sake of it and i don't talk to people that do either as i know that somehow i would get dragged into it. i wouldn't call hanging around with a group that behaves like this a mistake either. you wanted to hang around with them so it was intentional. i think mistake is the wrong word to use. maybe regret should be there.
MY BAD TASHA I MISREAD WHAT YOU SAID.. THE THING IS I ACTUALLY DO I HAVE A STUDIO AND I HAVE THE FACILITIES TO LET YOUTH FROM ROUND THERE AREA USE IT. TRYING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREET ROBBIN PEOPLE AND TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING. BUT YOUR TALKIN AS IF YOU HAVE NEVER MADE MISTAKES? STOP WITH THAT TALK EVERYONE HAS..
FORFIT IVS, BEXLEY says...
4:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Window Ledge says...
4:45pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Garden says...
4:47pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lenny, welling says...
5:02pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, A and E says...
5:06pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lenny, welling says...
5:10pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Paul, Bexleyheath says...
5:10pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lenny wrote:There we go again.
erastus
i got your answer
yesssssssss i would
This fighter is just a scumbag.and if he wasnt dead. he would of caused many more peoples lifes hell.
so good riddance 2 him
rot in hell u scumbag
Erastus, X Ray says...
5:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lenny, welling says...
5:14pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:15pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Paul wrote:For the people that dont seem to be able to read, we are all actually either in college or working. Maybe you need educating.. You tell me???
So it appears that IVS went around asking boys if they were RA, AP, etc and being mob handed
Right so were they that stupid not to find out who the so called gangs ra, and ap were and if they had a problem with them sort it. But no they went around to groups of boys made themselves look like idiots for asking the question
Tough !! I think not
anyway why discuss their motives, who cares now.. they met their match... whats next for them ?? how about getting educated, stop having a chip on your shoulder, stop using the racist card, get employed and try to get on with your life while you can.
Continue the way you have been behaving and I dread to think what will happen to you. and this is also to the so called white boys in the gang who turned muslim FFS
Lee, orpington says...
5:15pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lewis, says...
5:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08
mt to brutal wrote:it aint a "post code war" theres was 2 sides. Racist kids known as RA racist attack who have been around for years and theres us a group of mates who aint letting them get racist to us. that post code crap is up london and that area not us get ure facts straight and now all kids are in gangs if u fink every youth is in a gang u must be very thick. Like i said earlier "ivs" hasnt been a gang and hasnt had a "gang war" for about a year and a half a lot of us have grown out of it including me it was just a phase and a laugh now this stuff with fighter will wake every1 up and realizes it aint a game
didnt think i would say this but i feel sorry for you and the youngsters of today, i feel scared because your generation is the future, it doesnt give us much confidence when you are all involved in this gang culture, you sound like you want out - dont blame you, if only there could be peace-what is it with this post code war ? it sounds so stupid, people are entitled to go anywhere arnt they ? so why cant they?
Erastus, The Ward says...
5:16pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lewis, says...
5:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee wrote:lee is ure last name sterry?
Erastus = bordering on scum. You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don\'t know whether you have kids (something tells me you don\'t) but if you do I hope they don\'t develop a drug habit. Hope they don\'t buy a hooded top too. You\'re apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these \"bullies\" - though to be fair it\'s not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
Erastus, On the bed pan says...
5:19pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lee wrote:LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Erastus = bordering on scum.
You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don't know whether you have kids (something tells me you don't) but if you do I hope they don't develop a drug habit. Hope they don't buy a hooded top too. You're apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these "bullies" - though to be fair it's not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer wrote:ahhaha my bad il take that bak i didnt read who wrote that *
Lee wrote:LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Erastus = bordering on scum.
You have no answers , just sarcastic responses. Every drug user is scum? That is plain ignorant. Don't know whether you have kids (something tells me you don't) but if you do I hope they don't develop a drug habit. Hope they don't buy a hooded top too. You're apparant self righteousness is worrying, your self delusion staggering. I dislike judgemental people like you as much as I detest these "bullies" - though to be fair it's not easy to know where one starts and the other finishes.
L
you make me laugh though
your very bias lool
your the sort of person tht would get bullied.. one that would open his mouth to much lool
Erastus, In the bog having a crafty fag says...
5:28pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:nope that was someone pretending to be me, any more smart **** comments???
Mr Sluer. I noticed that one of your comments appeared then disappeared. Did you regret what you said?
G, says...
5:30pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Anon, Erith says...
5:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Back in bed says...
5:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:Smart **** get beat up. SAY NO MORE
Only that you seem to have learned how to turn the CAPS lock off. Now all you have to do is remember that a sentence starts with a Capital letter, there is no such word as nope and that you require only ONE question mark at the end a sentence.
Erastus, The Couch says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08
w, says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08
G, says...
5:38pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Chair says...
5:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lew, says...
5:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The floor says...
5:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08
G, says...
5:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:44pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:DONT YOU STOP TALKING?
No, I think I was right, Mr Sluer. You started with CAPITALS then changed to lower case. But I think you know that in your heart of hearts, don't you?
HOS, Erith says...
5:45pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Back in bed says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lew wrote:Well said soek..
Fraiden didnt pick on kids for no reason he werent a bully the only time i saw him fight was against boys who are in ra. these racist kids jumped him so hes going to stick up for himself get your facts straight. NEWSHOPPER THERES TWO SIDES TOO EVERY STORY. I suggest you get all the facts before you start insulting kids who are dead and who cant stand up forthemselves. this is why who ever rote this article works for the news shopper haha you wouldnt get this at REAL newspapers you cant call yourself a journalist. get down the job centre and SIGN ON.
Rip Fighterrr
Ivss We werent a low life gang we just stuck up for ourselves against those racist punks from erith, north heath and bexleyheath. Just because we had the bottle to stand up to them were seen as bullies. Anyway for the record IVS stopped ages ago most of the people init have grown up out of it and unfortunatley fraidon didnt get out when he did. yove been influenced by what youve read in the papers, the papers dont like kids at the moment, they see us all as animals which isnt true where not skum bags, look what they have done here. jon cheetam has giving a negative view of fraidon hes boiling people up, thats lead 2 alot of comments saying that fraidon deserved to die and then his friends have stuck up for him.
Rest in peace though. only god can judge. whether its jesus or allah, you lot on here who are calling him skum and saying he deserved to go have no right to judge him you didnt even know the boy.
Rest In Peace Fighterr Never forgotten.
LewiS
Lewis, says...
5:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Cupboard says...
5:48pm Wed 9 Jan 08
HOS, Erirth says...
5:49pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Ring says...
5:52pm Wed 9 Jan 08
G, says...
5:52pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Corner says...
5:55pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lewis, says...
5:55pm Wed 9 Jan 08
HOS, Erith says...
5:56pm Wed 9 Jan 08
G wrote:Listen G you must be a fool aswell Fighterrr was a fool he is gone IVS are over and HOS have won... HAVE A GOOD ONE RIP
'ERASTUS' IS THAT YOUR VIRTUAL NAME SO YOU HAVE A NEW IDENTITY BECAUSE IN THE REAL WORLD YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND YOU A NOTHING BUT A ****? RIP FIGHTER
lewis, says...
6:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08
E Piggott, The middle says...
6:00pm Wed 9 Jan 08
m, erith says...
6:01pm Wed 9 Jan 08
HOS, Eirth says...
6:02pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, Wheelchair says...
6:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The corridor says...
6:08pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, says...
6:09pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Katie, kent says...
6:11pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Potato Couch says...
6:12pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:13pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Katie wrote:WELL SAID, ITS TRU STORIES STILL
All you lot are going on about how they have to earn respect?! how can they earn it if none of you will give them a chance? i used to talk to some of the people mentioned above on msn and your all saying how they are 'wanna be gangstahs' well nah not really, like brutal has said you dont know what its like. Society thinks that boys who wear hoodies and tracksuit bottoms are automaticaly a trouble maker but wait one second its just a dress sence :S and society has made them feel like they are outcasts, i mean when i was yonger 15-16 i used to stay on the streets having a laugh with my mates, but that dont mean just because i was on the streets i was causing trouble because i wernt i was having a laugh with my friends, every teenager goes through that stage and grows out of it, some quicker than others. I dont see how you lot have the right to label boys as 'gangsters' and 'thugs' because of how they dress and the fact they are on the streets. Maybe if the government had got thier finger out thier **** and made things better for the youth of today and actualy funded places for the youth to go then there wouldnt be all this ****. Some of you people should maybe try a day in their shoes and see what they are like, and see what they have to go through because i can garentee you wouldnt find it fun. I've known one of the boys mentioned above for about 3/4 years and hes never done anything to me never made me feel scared or intimidated he was always a mate there when i needed him, when i was verbaly abused by some boy he sorted it out NOT BY FIGHTING but by having a word with him. The government have stereotyped all teenage boys into being a thug when if you actualy got to know them they arent, your all having a go at these people when none of you are saying anything about the MEN 31 + who stabbed fighter :S wtf is that about?! what about the men who go round beating up young childern? vicious attacks on the elderly, have any of these boys? no. People die every single day but just because it was in a middle of a street your all making a big issue out of it, and just because he didnt exactly have a clean record your all being idiots about it. If it happend to someone who had no history you'd be devistated but it wernt so yet again your stereotype. There was nothing wrong with fighter or any of the boys above, if a 30 year old bloke done weed in his spare time you'd think nothing of it, you wouldnt think anything of a bunch of 30 year old blokes going out and being loud aslong as they where dressed smart but just because young boys where dressed in hoodies etc being loud they are classed as THUGS...well they aint so i suggest you get over urselfs. They are all nice boys you just dont give them a chance.
Katie, Kent says...
6:17pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Cucumber Couch says...
6:18pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:20pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Katie, Kent says...
6:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Carrot Couch says...
6:21pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, says...
6:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Lettuce couch says...
6:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee, says...
6:25pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, says...
6:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Pineapple Warehouse says...
6:27pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, says...
6:29pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Kitchen says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Kitchen says...
6:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus, The Off Licence says...
6:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:ERASTUS, YOU ARE A BIT OF A BONEHEAD ~_~ YOU JUST KEEP TALKIN ALOT OF RUBBISH...
Dear misguided Lozziee. I did not know him when he was alive so I am making up for lost time. Okay?
Erastus, The Pub says...
6:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee, says...
6:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08
karen, abbeywood says...
6:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUER, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
6:37pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Erastus wrote:IM SURE HE WE WOULD OF ALL BEAT YOU UP :) AND LIKE THUGS YES WE WOULD HAVE STAMPED YOU OUT IF YOU KEPT OPENIN YOUR MOUTH :)
I guess the deceased knew all about sticks and stones, didn't he? Especially when he aimed them at innocent kids and pensioners.
Lozziee, says...
6:39pm Wed 9 Jan 08
tami, se9 says...
6:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lew, eracuntus' daughters room ;) says...
6:41pm Wed 9 Jan 08
lou, kent says...
7:04pm Wed 9 Jan 08
HIZBAWLER, WTFF says...
7:07pm Wed 9 Jan 08
The Real Erastus, Out says...
7:23pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee, says...
7:24pm Wed 9 Jan 08
HIZBAWLER, AGREEIN says...
7:27pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee wrote:ALIEE
LOU.. YOUR MATE HAS TO BE ATLEAST 20 YE?
SO HOW WUD SHE NOE WHO FIGHTERR IS ?
& I DONTT BELEAVE DAHT AT ALL SORRRRRY
Lozziee, says...
7:30pm Wed 9 Jan 08
anon, erith says...
7:32pm Wed 9 Jan 08
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Hippie, woolwich says...
7:34pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lozziee, says...
7:36pm Wed 9 Jan 08
sluer, PLUMSTEAD TO DEPTFORD TO NORWOOD says...
7:40pm Wed 9 Jan 08
anon wrote:I BULLY DA BIG BULLIES NO LONGG
he got wot was coming to him he did deal drugs all types thats why he was at that flat he was a low life bully and so r his mates you cant tell any one one man stabs 3 teenagers for nothingquote
BIG ERAUT, Erirth says...
7:43pm Wed 9 Jan 08
SLUERRRR, DEPTFORDDDDDDDD says...
7:46pm Wed 9 Jan 08
BIG ERAUT wrote:IL RIDE JAIL LIKE ITS A SURF BOARD NO LONG!!!
sluer FOOL i think you will be RIP soon fool Guys all you have to do is look at You tube at the IVS they are all fools and will all end up dead or in jail they all sell drugs and why because they are idiots and that is that so IVS RIP.. in HELL
Lozziee, says...
7:50pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Tina, Bexleyheath says...
8:26pm Wed 9 Jan 08
Lauren, says...
3:40pm Tue 8 Jan 08