Father, son and daughter sentenced after Dartford-bound train attack in front of terrified passengers

Alan Kinsella, pictured on CCTV on the night of the incident

Amy Kinsella, pictured on CCTV on the night of the incident

Ben Kinsella, pictured on CCTV on the night of the incident

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A father, son and daughter were sentenced today after attacking two people on a Dartford-bound train in front of terrified passengers.

Alan Kinsella, 47, Ben Kinsella, 25, and Amy Kinsella, 20, of Raleigh Close, Erith, were part of an almighty ruckus, rounding on a man and woman before punches were thrown and blood was drawn.

They pleaded guilty to affray before being sentenced at Blackfriars Crown Court.

On April 5 the Kinsellas, who had been out celebrating a family birthday, boarded the 9.56pm Charing Cross to Dartford train at Greenwich.

They took a seat near Jamie Clark and Canadian Cibelle Ribeiro.

Geoffrey Porter, prosecuting, said: "The train was reasonably busy that evening and the Kinsellas were travelling in a family group.

"Over the course of the journey words are exchanged between Amy Kinsella and Miss Ribeiro.

"Amy, who is observed as being clearly drunk by those around her, uses foul language. She says things like 'I f****** like your accent'.

"Mr Clark intervenes and eventually Amy gets out of her seat and the family walks away."

Following this, a further exchange of words sparked a standing confrontation between the family and Miss Ribeiro and Mr Clark.

Mr Porter said: "You will see the violence erupt with punches being thrown by both Ben Kinsella and his father. 

"Eventually it does calm down and, almost as unexpected as it starts, it finishes.

"Mr Clark does suffer an injury, you can see blood coming from his nose."

In July a police appeal, published by the News Shopper, resulted in Alan Kinsella handing himself in at a police station.

Recorder Julian Malins QC said: "I will start with the two younger members of the family, Amy and Ben.

"You were part of an affray which on this occasion was in a public place. There were a number of people there.

"This is a very serious offence. This was a very frightening and, for the male victim, a very damaging experience."

Amy and Ben Kinsella were sentenced to 100 hours of unpaid work and ordered to pay £400 costs and a £60 victim surcharge.

Recorder Malins added: "I am now addressing the father. You should know a good deal better.

"I have looked carefully at the CCTV and I think it is quite right you pleaded guilty to affray.

"Whatever happened later in terms of breaking things up, to start with you were part of what I can only describe as an attack."

Alan Kinsella was sentenced to two months in prison, suspended for 12 months, 50 hours unpaid work and ordered to pay £400 costs and a £80 victim surcharge.

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4:14pm Fri 29 Aug 14

highway warrior says...

I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they......

http://www.newsshopp
er.co.uk/news/113065
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Daisymay73 says...

How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion.
This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.


hahaha laughable
I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they...... http://www.newsshopp er.co.uk/news/113065 24.Woman_pictured_in _Dartford_train__ass ault__CCTV_claims_sh e_was_acting_in_self _defence/ [quote]Daisymay73 says... How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion. This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.[/quote] hahaha laughable highway warrior
  • Score: 53

4:32pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Carparkattendant says...

I love it when scum are taken out !
I love it when scum are taken out ! Carparkattendant
  • Score: 86

4:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Love London Life says...

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Laughable in the extreme, As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong...Hmmmm
Maybe not in this instance.

Families like yours brings the whole race down

Stay Cool

xx
Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Daisymay73 Laughable in the extreme, As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong...Hmmmm Maybe not in this instance. Families like yours brings the whole race down Stay Cool xx Love London Life
  • Score: 82

4:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

concerned.erith says...

What lovely family!
What lovely family! concerned.erith
  • Score: 67

5:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dean ambrose says...

Pond life,so much justice has been served. Unlucky daisymoo
Pond life,so much justice has been served. Unlucky daisymoo Dean ambrose
  • Score: 78

6:08pm Fri 29 Aug 14

The Fozziest of Bears says...

Unpaid work ?
Fines ?
Victim surcharge ?

From a family that lives in Erith ?

No chance of any of those things happening.
Unpaid work ? Fines ? Victim surcharge ? From a family that lives in Erith ? No chance of any of those things happening. The Fozziest of Bears
  • Score: -24

9:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

swanleyperson says...

Meet The family of the future every body. Inbread scum bags.
Meet The family of the future every body. Inbread scum bags. swanleyperson
  • Score: 78

10:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dean ambrose says...

highway warrior wrote:
I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they......

http://www.newsshopp

er.co.uk/news/113065

24.Woman_pictured_in

_Dartford_train__ass

ault__CCTV_claims_sh

e_was_acting_in_self

_defence/

Daisymay73 says...

How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion.
This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.


hahaha laughable
can I report this for not making any sense?
[quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they...... http://www.newsshopp er.co.uk/news/113065 24.Woman_pictured_in _Dartford_train__ass ault__CCTV_claims_sh e_was_acting_in_self _defence/ [quote]Daisymay73 says... How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion. This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.[/quote] hahaha laughable[/p][/quote]can I report this for not making any sense? Dean ambrose
  • Score: 29

10:35pm Fri 29 Aug 14

swanleyperson says...

Dean ambrose wrote:
highway warrior wrote:
I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they......

http://www.newsshopp


er.co.uk/news/113065


24.Woman_pictured_in


_Dartford_train__ass


ault__CCTV_claims_sh


e_was_acting_in_self


_defence/

Daisymay73 says...

How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion.
This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.


hahaha laughable
can I report this for not making any sense?
Yes. Send all complants to gypo joe. He will review the complant and if needs be, will personally insult the culprit or you or both or none at all.
[quote][p][bold]Dean ambrose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they...... http://www.newsshopp er.co.uk/news/113065 24.Woman_pictured_in _Dartford_train__ass ault__CCTV_claims_sh e_was_acting_in_self _defence/ [quote]Daisymay73 says... How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion. This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.[/quote] hahaha laughable[/p][/quote]can I report this for not making any sense?[/p][/quote]Yes. Send all complants to gypo joe. He will review the complant and if needs be, will personally insult the culprit or you or both or none at all. swanleyperson
  • Score: 52

11:05am Sat 30 Aug 14

Gypo.Joe says...

swanleyperson wrote:
Dean ambrose wrote:
highway warrior wrote:
I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they......

http://www.newsshopp



er.co.uk/news/113065



24.Woman_pictured_in



_Dartford_train__ass



ault__CCTV_claims_sh



e_was_acting_in_self



_defence/

Daisymay73 says...

How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion.
This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.


hahaha laughable
can I report this for not making any sense?
Yes. Send all complants to gypo joe. He will review the complant and if needs be, will personally insult the culprit or you or both or none at all.
You got me in one boi.

Insults Are Us.com

PS, is young Kinsella a ginge ?

Looks like a tinge of ginge going on to me boi.
[quote][p][bold]swanleyperson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dean ambrose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]highway warrior[/bold] wrote: I seem to recall there being a post screaming of their innocence and that it was the other peoples fault and it was self defence. Hmmmm not so innocent now are they...... http://www.newsshopp er.co.uk/news/113065 24.Woman_pictured_in _Dartford_train__ass ault__CCTV_claims_sh e_was_acting_in_self _defence/ [quote]Daisymay73 says... How come the police thought this was so serious, that when the suspects "as you all like to call them" contacted the police ASAP "the suspects " was told not to come in straight away ????? Umm let's think about that!!! Well that will be because this for some reason as been blown out of proportion. This is my family how dare you judge innocent people when none of you know the facts you are all obviously small minded people. As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original footage of what actually happened!!!! And then I hope all you small minded people might think again before making comments on nothing you know about, except from what you have read.[/quote] hahaha laughable[/p][/quote]can I report this for not making any sense?[/p][/quote]Yes. Send all complants to gypo joe. He will review the complant and if needs be, will personally insult the culprit or you or both or none at all.[/p][/quote]You got me in one boi. Insults Are Us.com PS, is young Kinsella a ginge ? Looks like a tinge of ginge going on to me boi. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -13

12:29pm Sat 30 Aug 14

swanleyperson says...

I dunno. She might be ginger but in all honistly its prob just inbreeding. Gives them all an orange hew.
I dunno. She might be ginger but in all honistly its prob just inbreeding. Gives them all an orange hew. swanleyperson
  • Score: 35

3:14pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Dean ambrose says...

Amy Kinsella 20, do me a favour that must have been one hard paper round. The forehead on that is also epic
Amy Kinsella 20, do me a favour that must have been one hard paper round. The forehead on that is also epic Dean ambrose
  • Score: 31

4:37pm Sat 30 Aug 14

mouthalmighty says...

The kinsellas look like they've done this before. There is no hesitation in their body language. Well practised bullies.
The kinsellas look like they've done this before. There is no hesitation in their body language. Well practised bullies. mouthalmighty
  • Score: 27

5:23pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Marty1979 says...

But the Kinsella's are totally innocent. Remember the comments at the time:-

Amy Kinsella called News Shopper "Ms Kinsella said she was sitting on the train when a "drunk" couple started "swearing abuse" at her and her mother, sparking an argument. She said: "She got up and slapped me. Obviously that led to a fight. We basically just had each other's hair."

and of course "I've never had a fight in my whole life" (well not until now...)

"I didn't think it was a massive thing" (obvously assaulting someone is a common occurance for this family)

So why didn't she use any of this in court?

Daisymay73 claimed her family were innocent. If they were then why did they plead guilty?

"As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original" it actually proved there guilt


Well come on Daisymay, you were there at the time, and according to your daughter were abused - yet you were not charged. Can we have your comments on the case - obviously there will be an appeal
But the Kinsella's are totally innocent. Remember the comments at the time:- Amy Kinsella called News Shopper "Ms Kinsella said she was sitting on the train when a "drunk" couple started "swearing abuse" at her and her mother, sparking an argument. She said: "She got up and slapped me. Obviously that led to a fight. We basically just had each other's hair." and of course "I've never had a fight in my whole life" (well not until now...) "I didn't think it was a massive thing" (obvously assaulting someone is a common occurance for this family) So why didn't she use any of this in court? Daisymay73 claimed her family were innocent. If they were then why did they plead guilty? "As for CCTV I will prove you all wrong when the police release the original" it actually proved there guilt Well come on Daisymay, you were there at the time, and according to your daughter were abused - yet you were not charged. Can we have your comments on the case - obviously there will be an appeal Marty1979
  • Score: 39

8:34pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Dean ambrose says...

let's be avin u daisymoo
let's be avin u daisymoo Dean ambrose
  • Score: 34

8:49pm Sat 30 Aug 14

reasonable75 says...

mouthalmighty wrote:
The kinsellas look like they've done this before. There is no hesitation in their body language. Well practised bullies.
Shame young Ben didn't get a holiday inside, the lags would have liked to make such a smiling lad welcome
[quote][p][bold]mouthalmighty[/bold] wrote: The kinsellas look like they've done this before. There is no hesitation in their body language. Well practised bullies.[/p][/quote]Shame young Ben didn't get a holiday inside, the lags would have liked to make such a smiling lad welcome reasonable75
  • Score: 28

9:07pm Sat 30 Aug 14

molsey says...

Carparkattendant wrote:
I love it when scum are taken out !
Taken out, these sentences are tantamount to being let off.
[quote][p][bold]Carparkattendant[/bold] wrote: I love it when scum are taken out ![/p][/quote]Taken out, these sentences are tantamount to being let off. molsey
  • Score: 23

11:28pm Sat 30 Aug 14

nearly right all the time says...

This is why you cant go out on Saturday night, because scum like this just want to spoil your night!

Maybe they should work in an A&E on a Saturday night so they can see the
mayhem that their kind cause
This is why you cant go out on Saturday night, because scum like this just want to spoil your night! Maybe they should work in an A&E on a Saturday night so they can see the mayhem that their kind cause nearly right all the time
  • Score: 47

9:24am Sun 31 Aug 14

Oldchap says...

In her attempts to justify her actions Ms Kinsella claimed Miss Riberio started the fight ("she got up and slapped me")

But the CCTV that Daisymay suggested would prove her family's innocence has actually proved their guilt

Or was the CCTV footage made up?
In her attempts to justify her actions Ms Kinsella claimed Miss Riberio started the fight ("she got up and slapped me") But the CCTV that Daisymay suggested would prove her family's innocence has actually proved their guilt Or was the CCTV footage made up? Oldchap
  • Score: 33

12:43pm Fri 12 Sep 14

kentlad says...

chavs - what a lovely role model the dad is and our society wonder why kids of today are turning the way they its because of scum bag parents like Alan Kinsella above!!!!
chavs - what a lovely role model the dad is and our society wonder why kids of today are turning the way they its because of scum bag parents like Alan Kinsella above!!!! kentlad
  • Score: 5
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