POLL: Greenwich Ikea - a retail boost or a traffic disaster?

News Shopper: Campaigners at the Greenwich Ikea protest picnic Campaigners at the Greenwich Ikea protest picnic

A proposed new Ikea in Greenwich will transform the area, providing hundreds of jobs - or it could be a disaster, bringing a vast increase in traffic and pollution to an already congested area. Which side are you on?

"Unbelievable"

The campaign against a Greenwich Ikea went up a gear at the weekend with campaigners holding a protest picnic in a small open space behind the Sainsbury's on Bugsbys Way.

Ikea's plans will see the pioneering Sainsbury's eco-store demolished and moved elsewhere, despite calls for it to be listed.

Sophie Howard, whose 13-year-old daughter Izzy was instrumental in setting up the No Ikea Greenwich group, said: "What was clear was that many local residents knew little about the proposed development and were shocked that Ikea plans to demolish the Sainsbury's building and the beautiful park behind it.

"It is apparent that attempts to inform the community about this development have not succeeded."

The 45-year-old, of Humber Road, Westcombe Park, said: "The site is adjacent to the Blackwall Tunnel approach road and is likely to attract visitors from north and south of the tunnel, as well as Kent.

"The major access roads will pass through the already heavily congested Greenwich town centre and over Blackheath.

"Unbelievably, Ikea claim its store will lead to a reduction in traffic, despite an even larger Sainsbury’s being rebuilt in the same local area."

She went on: "A proposed Ikea in Sidcup was rejected adjacent to the A20 dual carriageway because it was accepted the vast majority of Ikea customers travel by car.

"That argument has fallen on deaf ears in Greenwich."

For more on the campaign, which is appealing the planning decision and has a petition with around 300 signatures, visit the campaign website.

News Shopper: Greenwich Ikea - a retail boost or a traffic disaster?

"Broad support"

Outline plans for the store were approved by a Greenwich Council planning board in March, with officers saying it will improve the area's competitiveness, while monitoring would minimise the environmental impact.

Deputy property manager for Ikea UK Steve Pettyfer said: "We have actively sought to engage with the Greenwich community and are delighted so many local residents welcome our plans.

"We received approximately 400 representations during the pre-application consultation period, with 68 per cent of people who filled in a questionnaire indicating they fully or broadly supported the proposals.

"We also recognise the concerns that were raised during the consultation process and as a result have updated our plans with a number of new measures, including the establishment of a green wall and roof, and the creation of a £750,000 fund for measures to promote the use of public transport when visiting the Greenwich store.

"An Ikea store on the Greenwich Peninsular will provide up to 400 job opportunities for local people and be the best connected Ikea store to public transport in the UK.

"We plan to recycle as much of the material in the existing building as possible to build the new store and will include technologies to help to minimise its carbon footprint.

"We welcome an ongoing open dialogue with local community groups as we work towards the next phase in the application process."

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4:24pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Hk says...

I think its a great idea. Who wants to have to travel to Lakeside just to go to an Ikea! No toll charges either!

I for one will be more likely to go shopping there now.

People just moan for the sake of moaning sometimes I think lol!
I think its a great idea. Who wants to have to travel to Lakeside just to go to an Ikea! No toll charges either! I for one will be more likely to go shopping there now. People just moan for the sake of moaning sometimes I think lol! Hk
  • Score: 12

4:41pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SidcupResident says...

You can't turn down the creation of 400 jobs.

If everyone at the Greenwich Sainsburys was being made redundant then I'd say otherwise but there not. It's only moving round the corner.

As for being Eco-friendly, even the two wind turbines out the front don't work anymore.

In ten year's people will wonder what everyone was moaning about. Ironically a bit like 15 years ago when the Sainsburys was being built....
You can't turn down the creation of 400 jobs. If everyone at the Greenwich Sainsburys was being made redundant then I'd say otherwise but there not. It's only moving round the corner. As for being Eco-friendly, even the two wind turbines out the front don't work anymore. In ten year's people will wonder what everyone was moaning about. Ironically a bit like 15 years ago when the Sainsburys was being built.... SidcupResident
  • Score: 8

6:55pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SELondon says...

You could still create jobs by letting another supermarket take over the existing building. However, Sainsbury's are preventing another supermarket from moving in, even though they don't want it any more.
You could still create jobs by letting another supermarket take over the existing building. However, Sainsbury's are preventing another supermarket from moving in, even though they don't want it any more. SELondon
  • Score: 28

8:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

reasonable75 says...

I believe the proposed Ikea at Sidcup was turned down because they're not allowed to demolish the old Klingers building
I believe the proposed Ikea at Sidcup was turned down because they're not allowed to demolish the old Klingers building reasonable75
  • Score: 0

1:49am Tue 29 Apr 14

Joelo says...

If there was plans to create a new park id bet money that someone would be complaining about it! as said previously some people simply moan for the sake of moaning.

Im sure that there are a lot more people who live in Greenwich for the Ikea than there are against it.
If there was plans to create a new park id bet money that someone would be complaining about it! as said previously some people simply moan for the sake of moaning. Im sure that there are a lot more people who live in Greenwich for the Ikea than there are against it. Joelo
  • Score: 1

8:12am Tue 29 Apr 14

Citygirl83 says...

i would welcome an Ikea in Greenwich, as someone said no toll charges to get to Lakeside.the fact it creates 400 jobs shouldn't be moaned at, with so many unemployed we need all the jobs we can get.
i would welcome an Ikea in Greenwich, as someone said no toll charges to get to Lakeside.the fact it creates 400 jobs shouldn't be moaned at, with so many unemployed we need all the jobs we can get. Citygirl83
  • Score: 0

2:31pm Tue 29 Apr 14

deadorred says...

This isn't "creating" new jobs; any retailer on the site will employ people. Any local will tell you that traffic in the area is awful, pollution is unacceptably high and double limits, and frankly I cannot conceive how the planners let this through. Sidcup was definitely rejected due to traffic - read the planning reports. Unfortunately it is clear the catchment will run right into Kent because shoppers object to paying a toll over the Dartford bridge - a point glossed over by Ikea and Greenwich... Not no to Ikea, no to Ikea in an urban area already blighted by congestion.
This isn't "creating" new jobs; any retailer on the site will employ people. Any local will tell you that traffic in the area is awful, pollution is unacceptably high and double limits, and frankly I cannot conceive how the planners let this through. Sidcup was definitely rejected due to traffic - read the planning reports. Unfortunately it is clear the catchment will run right into Kent because shoppers object to paying a toll over the Dartford bridge - a point glossed over by Ikea and Greenwich... Not no to Ikea, no to Ikea in an urban area already blighted by congestion. deadorred
  • Score: 12

3:54pm Tue 29 Apr 14

SELondon says...

In their conclusion when rejecting the Sidcup proposal, both the Mayor and TFL said that an Ikea store was 'inherently car-dependent'. Yet they've now changed their minds and believe the claim that people will be happy to get the bus to Ikea Greenwich. I'm assuming everyone here rejoicing the end of tolls will be on that bus, and not driving to Greenwich instead?
In their conclusion when rejecting the Sidcup proposal, both the Mayor and TFL said that an Ikea store was 'inherently car-dependent'. Yet they've now changed their minds and believe the claim that people will be happy to get the bus to Ikea Greenwich. I'm assuming everyone here rejoicing the end of tolls will be on that bus, and not driving to Greenwich instead? SELondon
  • Score: 10

7:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Joelo says...

SELondon wrote:
In their conclusion when rejecting the Sidcup proposal, both the Mayor and TFL said that an Ikea store was 'inherently car-dependent'. Yet they've now changed their minds and believe the claim that people will be happy to get the bus to Ikea Greenwich. I'm assuming everyone here rejoicing the end of tolls will be on that bus, and not driving to Greenwich instead?
No I will be driving to ikea from within the borough just as I do when I visit any of the retailers at that same location.
[quote][p][bold]SELondon[/bold] wrote: In their conclusion when rejecting the Sidcup proposal, both the Mayor and TFL said that an Ikea store was 'inherently car-dependent'. Yet they've now changed their minds and believe the claim that people will be happy to get the bus to Ikea Greenwich. I'm assuming everyone here rejoicing the end of tolls will be on that bus, and not driving to Greenwich instead?[/p][/quote]No I will be driving to ikea from within the borough just as I do when I visit any of the retailers at that same location. Joelo
  • Score: 3

9:35pm Tue 29 Apr 14

deadorred says...

And that's precisely the point joelo - there are housing developments going up on every inch of space - over 10000 on the peninsula itself. And everyone will drive to ikea because you can't get a billy bookcase on a bus. But IKea claim nearly 40% of customers will arrive by public transport. Believe that and you'll believe Greenwich council have really thought this through.
And that's precisely the point joelo - there are housing developments going up on every inch of space - over 10000 on the peninsula itself. And everyone will drive to ikea because you can't get a billy bookcase on a bus. But IKea claim nearly 40% of customers will arrive by public transport. Believe that and you'll believe Greenwich council have really thought this through. deadorred
  • Score: 13

10:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

From Greenwich says...

Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council.
Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council. From Greenwich
  • Score: 16

9:39am Wed 30 Apr 14

deadorred says...

From Greenwich wrote:
Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council.
Exactly - from the comments above, it looks like the News Shopper's catchment is Welling, Sidcup and Bexley. Well done (soon to be former) Cllr Roberts; what a legacy you'll leave. We shall remember you when people that live in Charlton, Greenwich and Blackheath are stuck in traffic. Again.
[quote][p][bold]From Greenwich[/bold] wrote: Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council.[/p][/quote]Exactly - from the comments above, it looks like the News Shopper's catchment is Welling, Sidcup and Bexley. Well done (soon to be former) Cllr Roberts; what a legacy you'll leave. We shall remember you when people that live in Charlton, Greenwich and Blackheath are stuck in traffic. Again. deadorred
  • Score: 13

7:30pm Thu 1 May 14

Tomzzz says...

Job creation is vital - BUT another retailer would add extra jobs and not draw customers from half of London in cars.

With the new Sainsburys just down the road, there will already be extra strain on roads.

If the Ikea proposal for Sidcup was rejected, with the store next to a dual carriageway, I don't understand the logic behind an already congested area.

All this will do is cause a total traffic jam on the roads through Greenwich, and anyone not realising how bad they already are at peak times just needs to drive down on a Saturday (let alone rush hour)!

(I personally would love an IKEA nearby, but just a bit more out-of town that's easy to drive to and where there will be lots of parking)
Job creation is vital - BUT another retailer would add extra jobs and not draw customers from half of London in cars. With the new Sainsburys just down the road, there will already be extra strain on roads. If the Ikea proposal for Sidcup was rejected, with the store next to a dual carriageway, I don't understand the logic behind an already congested area. All this will do is cause a total traffic jam on the roads through Greenwich, and anyone not realising how bad they already are at peak times just needs to drive down on a Saturday (let alone rush hour)! (I personally would love an IKEA nearby, but just a bit more out-of town that's easy to drive to and where there will be lots of parking) Tomzzz
  • Score: 14

7:43pm Thu 1 May 14

Simon bald says...

SidcupResident wrote:
You can't turn down the creation of 400 jobs.

If everyone at the Greenwich Sainsburys was being made redundant then I'd say otherwise but there not. It's only moving round the corner.

As for being Eco-friendly, even the two wind turbines out the front don't work anymore.

In ten year's people will wonder what everyone was moaning about. Ironically a bit like 15 years ago when the Sainsburys was being built....
the wind turbines when they worked powered one checkout For one week.

hot worth the effort
[quote][p][bold]SidcupResident[/bold] wrote: You can't turn down the creation of 400 jobs. If everyone at the Greenwich Sainsburys was being made redundant then I'd say otherwise but there not. It's only moving round the corner. As for being Eco-friendly, even the two wind turbines out the front don't work anymore. In ten year's people will wonder what everyone was moaning about. Ironically a bit like 15 years ago when the Sainsburys was being built....[/p][/quote]the wind turbines when they worked powered one checkout For one week. hot worth the effort Simon bald
  • Score: -5

1:06pm Fri 2 May 14

Sidcupite says...

If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls.

I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there
If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls. I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there Sidcupite
  • Score: -7

5:03pm Fri 2 May 14

ms day says...

the developer lxb retail have not come up with any firm proposals for the former council owned brocklebank ind estate TENANTS as promised to the planning board .be very careful of this IKEA PLAN .
the developer lxb retail have not come up with any firm proposals for the former council owned brocklebank ind estate TENANTS as promised to the planning board .be very careful of this IKEA PLAN . ms day
  • Score: 14

3:03pm Sat 3 May 14

sarfflondonbird says...

I am for the new Ikea at Charlton.
I am for the new Ikea at Charlton. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: -12

4:40pm Sat 3 May 14

Wombles4000 says...

From Greenwich wrote:
Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council.
I just don't understand why there are so few ikeas within London and the wider South East. Such a massive population and so few. Why they don't open one in Kent as well is beyond me. They would still clean up. Elsewhere in the UK and Europe there seems to be more ikea's per population mass.
[quote][p][bold]From Greenwich[/bold] wrote: Some of the comments here illustrate exactly the problem with this IKEA. People who usually travel to Thurrock via the Dartford Crossing intend to use IKEA Greenwich. Two friends of mine, one who lives in Ashford and the other in Tunbridge Wells, say they would use IKEA Greenwich to avoid toll charges. IKEA claim no-one would travel from Kent and did not include it in the catchment area for their traffic reports. This point was made at the meeting of the Planning Board and dismissed by IKEA and the Council.[/p][/quote]I just don't understand why there are so few ikeas within London and the wider South East. Such a massive population and so few. Why they don't open one in Kent as well is beyond me. They would still clean up. Elsewhere in the UK and Europe there seems to be more ikea's per population mass. Wombles4000
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Sat 3 May 14

mouthalmighty says...

Tomzzz wrote:
Job creation is vital - BUT another retailer would add extra jobs and not draw customers from half of London in cars.

With the new Sainsburys just down the road, there will already be extra strain on roads.

If the Ikea proposal for Sidcup was rejected, with the store next to a dual carriageway, I don't understand the logic behind an already congested area.

All this will do is cause a total traffic jam on the roads through Greenwich, and anyone not realising how bad they already are at peak times just needs to drive down on a Saturday (let alone rush hour)!

(I personally would love an IKEA nearby, but just a bit more out-of town that's easy to drive to and where there will be lots of parking)
I too would like an ikea nearby, but not at the expense of increased traffic volume, and noise, not to mention pollution. And the residents, don't they suffer enough, and the house prices would go down. It would wicked (old wicked) to do this to them.
[quote][p][bold]Tomzzz[/bold] wrote: Job creation is vital - BUT another retailer would add extra jobs and not draw customers from half of London in cars. With the new Sainsburys just down the road, there will already be extra strain on roads. If the Ikea proposal for Sidcup was rejected, with the store next to a dual carriageway, I don't understand the logic behind an already congested area. All this will do is cause a total traffic jam on the roads through Greenwich, and anyone not realising how bad they already are at peak times just needs to drive down on a Saturday (let alone rush hour)! (I personally would love an IKEA nearby, but just a bit more out-of town that's easy to drive to and where there will be lots of parking)[/p][/quote]I too would like an ikea nearby, but not at the expense of increased traffic volume, and noise, not to mention pollution. And the residents, don't they suffer enough, and the house prices would go down. It would wicked (old wicked) to do this to them. mouthalmighty
  • Score: -1

10:24pm Sun 4 May 14

deadorred says...

Sidcupite wrote:
If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls.

I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there
Ikea still owns the sidcup site so there isn't really anything to prevent them pursuing the application if they wanted to. The problem with the greenwich site is that it is a bottle neck for traffic wanting to go across the river. Local roads are frequently log jammed as it is, especially at weekends. There is less than half the parking compared to other branches of ikea and the council admits this will result in people queuing for parking with tailbacks anticipated on to the A2. There are many other suitable location both within the borough eg thamesmead, where there are underused dual carriageways and ghost roads crying out for use, or out of borough.
[quote][p][bold]Sidcupite[/bold] wrote: If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls. I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there[/p][/quote]Ikea still owns the sidcup site so there isn't really anything to prevent them pursuing the application if they wanted to. The problem with the greenwich site is that it is a bottle neck for traffic wanting to go across the river. Local roads are frequently log jammed as it is, especially at weekends. There is less than half the parking compared to other branches of ikea and the council admits this will result in people queuing for parking with tailbacks anticipated on to the A2. There are many other suitable location both within the borough eg thamesmead, where there are underused dual carriageways and ghost roads crying out for use, or out of borough. deadorred
  • Score: 6

8:22am Mon 5 May 14

Jackytalks says...

Is it really going to be that busy during the week, most of the traffic in Greenwich is caused by the rush hour commute not by shoppers, get a grip and get Blackwall Tunnel sorted out.
Is it really going to be that busy during the week, most of the traffic in Greenwich is caused by the rush hour commute not by shoppers, get a grip and get Blackwall Tunnel sorted out. Jackytalks
  • Score: -6

11:00am Mon 5 May 14

mick_a says...

deadorred wrote:
Sidcupite wrote:
If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls.

I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there
Ikea still owns the sidcup site so there isn't really anything to prevent them pursuing the application if they wanted to. The problem with the greenwich site is that it is a bottle neck for traffic wanting to go across the river. Local roads are frequently log jammed as it is, especially at weekends. There is less than half the parking compared to other branches of ikea and the council admits this will result in people queuing for parking with tailbacks anticipated on to the A2. There are many other suitable location both within the borough eg thamesmead, where there are underused dual carriageways and ghost roads crying out for use, or out of borough.
Half the parking at this location is taken up by people who then catch the bus to North Greenwich Station/O2 arena to avoid the parking charges.
[quote][p][bold]deadorred[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sidcupite[/bold] wrote: If IKEA came to Greenwich, then yes, I really would shop there from Sidcup, as would any other IKEA shopping Bexley person and NW Kent person. Closer, no tolls. I personally always wanted IKEA at the Sidcup site and traffic, predominantly road lay out was the issue for it not to go ahead at the Klinger site. Mind you, since last week's fire, there isn't much to building left for another company to go in there[/p][/quote]Ikea still owns the sidcup site so there isn't really anything to prevent them pursuing the application if they wanted to. The problem with the greenwich site is that it is a bottle neck for traffic wanting to go across the river. Local roads are frequently log jammed as it is, especially at weekends. There is less than half the parking compared to other branches of ikea and the council admits this will result in people queuing for parking with tailbacks anticipated on to the A2. There are many other suitable location both within the borough eg thamesmead, where there are underused dual carriageways and ghost roads crying out for use, or out of borough.[/p][/quote]Half the parking at this location is taken up by people who then catch the bus to North Greenwich Station/O2 arena to avoid the parking charges. mick_a
  • Score: -5

3:25pm Mon 5 May 14

mouthalmighty says...

Either or iether?
Either or iether? mouthalmighty
  • Score: 0

3:36pm Sat 10 May 14

looking160 says...

We need IKEA! Jobs for the unemployed. It will not cause smymore congestion than there already is. What about those travelling through the tunnel to go to Lakeside ikea ? Now, they wont have to! There is ample parking on site once sainsburys leave. Im a driver, live on charlton slopes & not concerned one bit. The tunnel takes 5-10 mins max at peak to get through. People make out its soo bad but its all nonsense. Bring on more choice for shoppers & prevent the whole borough having to travel for a great shopping experience. Cant wait for the other retail park to be complete!
Shame on the people protesting. People are struggling to find work & this is good for the area. Stop moaning!!
We need IKEA! Jobs for the unemployed. It will not cause smymore congestion than there already is. What about those travelling through the tunnel to go to Lakeside ikea ? Now, they wont have to! There is ample parking on site once sainsburys leave. Im a driver, live on charlton slopes & not concerned one bit. The tunnel takes 5-10 mins max at peak to get through. People make out its soo bad but its all nonsense. Bring on more choice for shoppers & prevent the whole borough having to travel for a great shopping experience. Cant wait for the other retail park to be complete! Shame on the people protesting. People are struggling to find work & this is good for the area. Stop moaning!! looking160
  • Score: -3

3:38pm Sat 10 May 14

looking160 says...

Also , everyone knew about this.. IKEA mailed everyone inviting them to the greenwich forum to see plans. They were very good to do this!
Also , everyone knew about this.. IKEA mailed everyone inviting them to the greenwich forum to see plans. They were very good to do this! looking160
  • Score: -2

6:33pm Sat 10 May 14

Major Boredom says...

What is stopping people who live in Kent from going to IKEA Croydon? I live in Lewisham and this is why I go. I don't go to Brent Cross or Thurrock. I also go by public transport even though I own a car. As pointed out, most of the traffic congestion is caused by rush hour traffic. Admittedly though, there would be more congestion at weekends and bank holidays.

I would welcome an IKEA on the Greenwich site, but I am outraged that it is proposed to knock down the present Sainsbury's store. Why cannot IKEA incorporate it into the new store. Further as someone who is presently not working, I would like to be one of the 400.
What is stopping people who live in Kent from going to IKEA Croydon? I live in Lewisham and this is why I go. I don't go to Brent Cross or Thurrock. I also go by public transport even though I own a car. As pointed out, most of the traffic congestion is caused by rush hour traffic. Admittedly though, there would be more congestion at weekends and bank holidays. I would welcome an IKEA on the Greenwich site, but I am outraged that it is proposed to knock down the present Sainsbury's store. Why cannot IKEA incorporate it into the new store. Further as someone who is presently not working, I would like to be one of the 400. Major Boredom
  • Score: 0

6:35pm Sat 10 May 14

Major Boredom says...

What is stopping people who live in Kent from going to IKEA Croydon? I live in Lewisham and this is where I go. I don't go to Brent Cross or Thurrock. I also go by public transport even though I own a car. As pointed out, most of the traffic congestion is caused by the rush hour. Admittedly though, there would be more congestion at weekends and bank holidays.

I would welcome an IKEA on the Greenwich site, but I am outraged that it is proposed to knock down the present Sainsbury's store. Why cannot IKEA incorporate it into the new store. Further as someone who is presently not working, I would like to be one of the 400.
What is stopping people who live in Kent from going to IKEA Croydon? I live in Lewisham and this is where I go. I don't go to Brent Cross or Thurrock. I also go by public transport even though I own a car. As pointed out, most of the traffic congestion is caused by the rush hour. Admittedly though, there would be more congestion at weekends and bank holidays. I would welcome an IKEA on the Greenwich site, but I am outraged that it is proposed to knock down the present Sainsbury's store. Why cannot IKEA incorporate it into the new store. Further as someone who is presently not working, I would like to be one of the 400. Major Boredom
  • Score: 2

11:31pm Sun 25 May 14

Spoon Taneous says...

An IKEA and a new Sainsbury's what an amazing idea. I still remember the objections about the O2 all long forgotten... Let's face it, New Charlton at the moment is not pretty save for the anchor and hope... what exactly is the alternative proposal of the 'no to IKEA group'?
An IKEA and a new Sainsbury's what an amazing idea. I still remember the objections about the O2 all long forgotten... Let's face it, New Charlton at the moment is not pretty save for the anchor and hope... what exactly is the alternative proposal of the 'no to IKEA group'? Spoon Taneous
  • Score: -2

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