'Why are you f***ing stopping at the roundabout?' - Bexleyheath Albion Road junction causes yet another crash

News Shopper: 'Why are you f***king stopping at the roundabout?' - Albion Road junction in Bexleyheath causes yet more problems 'Why are you f***king stopping at the roundabout?' - Albion Road junction in Bexleyheath causes yet more problems

A woman was sworn at by a Mercedes driver following yet another crash at the new Albion Road junction in Bexleyheath.

Graham and his wife were on their way back from the post office yesterday at 10.21am when they stopped at a pedestrian crossing near the roundabout to let a man cross the road.

While waiting they were hit from behind by a black Mercedes car before Mrs Nicklas, who was driving, got out to inspect the damage.

Mr Nicklas, aged 46, of Yorkland Avenue, Blackfen, said: “The guy in the Mercedes got out of his car and was quite abusive to my wife.

“He said: ‘why are you f***king stopping at the roundabout? Have you not seen the stories in the News Shopper about the new junction?’

“I then got out of the car and said ‘If you had read the story in News Shopper properly you should have known there was a new crossing’.

“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Mr Nicklas says Bexley Council has not put enough thought into the planning of the junction and that there are near misses every week.

The father-of-one added: “I had warned my wife about the new layout but it doesn’t make any difference if people are going to drive into the back of you.

“When it’s wet it is particularly bad because you can’t see the lines properly.

“I have spoken to lots of other drivers who have had problems because they don’t see the crossing.”

Last month News Shopper reported how Welling’s Francis White was hospitalised after a car drove into the back of him at the same junction.

He too had paused to allow a pedestrian to cross at the pedestrian crossing.

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2:39pm Sat 26 Apr 14

B L Zeebub says...

Did he mean *uck*** ?
Did he mean *uck*** ? B L Zeebub
  • Score: 20

3:23pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Gypo.Joe says...

“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Oh my sides.
“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.” Oh my sides. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 91

4:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Gin21 says...

According to Bexley Council this is a 'Shared Space' for pedestrians and vehicles. If that is the case then it is a shame there is nothing giving that instructions!!!!
According to Bexley Council this is a 'Shared Space' for pedestrians and vehicles. If that is the case then it is a shame there is nothing giving that instructions!!!! Gin21
  • Score: 31

5:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

rabbit55 says...

Yet another accident at this junction, at least there minor. Lets have the correct markings for a zebra crossing and make it safe for drivers and pedestrians. And I would hate to be a blind person walking to find a zebra crossing as i am sure i would trip over the huge zebra crossing sign
Yet another accident at this junction, at least there minor. Lets have the correct markings for a zebra crossing and make it safe for drivers and pedestrians. And I would hate to be a blind person walking to find a zebra crossing as i am sure i would trip over the huge zebra crossing sign rabbit55
  • Score: 30

6:14pm Sat 26 Apr 14

dja0810 says...

I didn't think it was a roundabout there, there are no signs to say that it's a roundabout, the layout is totally stupid and it's down to the council who designed it this was, what were they thinking? It's the same as up near the police station, that isn't a roundabout but everyone thinks it is and expect you to give way to them so the just come speeding out of may place road west. Wish the council would get their facts straight and issue a formal statement telling everyone exactly what is a roundabout and what isn't and the same with crossings, also put the correct clear signage up. Council tax is going towards this shambles of a road layout.
I didn't think it was a roundabout there, there are no signs to say that it's a roundabout, the layout is totally stupid and it's down to the council who designed it this was, what were they thinking? It's the same as up near the police station, that isn't a roundabout but everyone thinks it is and expect you to give way to them so the just come speeding out of may place road west. Wish the council would get their facts straight and issue a formal statement telling everyone exactly what is a roundabout and what isn't and the same with crossings, also put the correct clear signage up. Council tax is going towards this shambles of a road layout. dja0810
  • Score: 45

7:01pm Sat 26 Apr 14

danm5577 says...

More like the merc driver was on his phone and didn't the stopped car! If the car in front has stopped then do not slow down / stop?
More like the merc driver was on his phone and didn't the stopped car! If the car in front has stopped then do not slow down / stop? danm5577
  • Score: 21

8:15pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Marty1979 says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Oh my sides.
I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened?

Or is there a threat of intimidation?
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: “He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.” Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened? Or is there a threat of intimidation? Marty1979
  • Score: 31

11:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Security22 says...

The point being an accident was cause by poor judgement by the driver who struck them and the poor design of the junction/roundabout.
. If the driver had not stopped there could have been a far more serious accident if they had hit the person crossing. This is the second accident in the last two weeks as well as many near misses. The redesign of these junctions in Bexleyheath need looking at ASAP, before someone is killed.
The point being an accident was cause by poor judgement by the driver who struck them and the poor design of the junction/roundabout. . If the driver had not stopped there could have been a far more serious accident if they had hit the person crossing. This is the second accident in the last two weeks as well as many near misses. The redesign of these junctions in Bexleyheath need looking at ASAP, before someone is killed. Security22
  • Score: 31

10:50am Sun 27 Apr 14

j.j. says...

Marty1979 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Oh my sides.
I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened?

Or is there a threat of intimidation?
This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation.
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: “He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.” Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened? Or is there a threat of intimidation?[/p][/quote]This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation. j.j.
  • Score: 25

1:46pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Bestbaz says...

The News Shopper should apply to Bexley Council and under the FOI request how many complaints have been lodged regarding the new road layout in Bexleyheath and run a story on that. Now that would be interesting reading compared to some of the rubbish NS report on
The News Shopper should apply to Bexley Council and under the FOI request how many complaints have been lodged regarding the new road layout in Bexleyheath and run a story on that. Now that would be interesting reading compared to some of the rubbish NS report on Bestbaz
  • Score: 20

1:48pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Bestbaz says...

B L Zeebub wrote:
Did he mean *uck*** ?
I think he said "FLIPPING", I cannot imagine any van driver using expletives. or the news shopper journalist, like so many could not spell the actual word.
[quote][p][bold]B L Zeebub[/bold] wrote: Did he mean *uck*** ?[/p][/quote]I think he said "FLIPPING", I cannot imagine any van driver using expletives. or the news shopper journalist, like so many could not spell the actual word. Bestbaz
  • Score: 9

3:01pm Sun 27 Apr 14

HearTheFacts says...

This junction is not a roundabout, its a T junction!. The crossings are not clearly marked out. Since Friday the contractor has removed the stupid yellow signs by the crossings!. What replaces them is steel posts, what they do is anyone guess?.

Conway, the contractor for the works in Bexleyheath. Must be laughing all the way to the bank!. Because since this layout went in, many changes have taken place.

We now await Bexley Councils Gareth Bacon comments, which I cannot wait!.
This junction is not a roundabout, its a T junction!. The crossings are not clearly marked out. Since Friday the contractor has removed the stupid yellow signs by the crossings!. What replaces them is steel posts, what they do is anyone guess?. Conway, the contractor for the works in Bexleyheath. Must be laughing all the way to the bank!. Because since this layout went in, many changes have taken place. We now await Bexley Councils Gareth Bacon comments, which I cannot wait!. HearTheFacts
  • Score: 17

3:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Slonik says...

I hope Bexley Council gets better value for money for its taxpayers than Bromley managed to obtain from the ££££££££'s wasted on Orpington High Street.
I hope Bexley Council gets better value for money for its taxpayers than Bromley managed to obtain from the ££££££££'s wasted on Orpington High Street. Slonik
  • Score: 11

8:31pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Security22 says...

j.j. wrote:
Marty1979 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Oh my sides.
I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened?

Or is there a threat of intimidation?
This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation.
No threat or intimidation ,it was to protect his wife for the abusive outburst of the driver at fault..no one should have to put up with that.
[quote][p][bold]j.j.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: “He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.” Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened? Or is there a threat of intimidation?[/p][/quote]This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation.[/p][/quote]No threat or intimidation ,it was to protect his wife for the abusive outburst of the driver at fault..no one should have to put up with that. Security22
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

oBLiVioN 70 says...

The so called roundabout is easy enough for cars, where road markings don't say otherwise then give way to traffic from the right. I can see it's a nightmare for pedestrians though and surely it was done with them in mind.

As for the merc driver, at what point is it wrong to stop for someone in an act of thoughtfulness and where is it said that if you disagree with someone stopping you should ram them?

Totally unnecessary incident that road planning by bexley and paying attention to the road could have avoided.
The so called roundabout is easy enough for cars, where road markings don't say otherwise then give way to traffic from the right. I can see it's a nightmare for pedestrians though and surely it was done with them in mind. As for the merc driver, at what point is it wrong to stop for someone in an act of thoughtfulness and where is it said that if you disagree with someone stopping you should ram them? Totally unnecessary incident that road planning by bexley and paying attention to the road could have avoided. oBLiVioN 70
  • Score: 15

12:06am Mon 28 Apr 14

Sidcupman says...

Although the junction is different to what we are used to there are many reasons for a car or bike stopping including breakdown/stalling or emergency stop. It is no excuse for the driver behind to drive into you. Clearly not paying attention and having the crossing marked better would make no difference what so ever.
Although the junction is different to what we are used to there are many reasons for a car or bike stopping including breakdown/stalling or emergency stop. It is no excuse for the driver behind to drive into you. Clearly not paying attention and having the crossing marked better would make no difference what so ever. Sidcupman
  • Score: 28

12:10am Mon 28 Apr 14

Sidcupman says...

And I object to Newsshopper blaming it on the junction everytime.
And I object to Newsshopper blaming it on the junction everytime. Sidcupman
  • Score: -28

9:47am Mon 28 Apr 14

mick_a says...

Gin21 wrote:
According to Bexley Council this is a 'Shared Space' for pedestrians and vehicles. If that is the case then it is a shame there is nothing giving that instructions!!!!
There is. It is called the Highway Code. Driving into the back of another vehicle is classed as an absolute offence. In other words it does not matter what the vehicle in front has done if you run into the back of them you are at fault, it is nothing to do with the layout of the junction.
[quote][p][bold]Gin21[/bold] wrote: According to Bexley Council this is a 'Shared Space' for pedestrians and vehicles. If that is the case then it is a shame there is nothing giving that instructions!!!![/p][/quote]There is. It is called the Highway Code. Driving into the back of another vehicle is classed as an absolute offence. In other words it does not matter what the vehicle in front has done if you run into the back of them you are at fault, it is nothing to do with the layout of the junction. mick_a
  • Score: 26

10:27am Mon 28 Apr 14

kids1st says...

we all rely so much on road markings we end up not being able to make sensible decisions! if you were walking down the road & someone stopped in front of you would you walk straight in to them? NO. People that cant drive blame everyone else!
we all rely so much on road markings we end up not being able to make sensible decisions! if you were walking down the road & someone stopped in front of you would you walk straight in to them? NO. People that cant drive blame everyone else! kids1st
  • Score: 28

11:06am Mon 28 Apr 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Security22 wrote:
j.j. wrote:
Marty1979 wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
“He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.”

Oh my sides.
I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened?

Or is there a threat of intimidation?
This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation.
No threat or intimidation ,it was to protect his wife for the abusive outburst of the driver at fault..no one should have to put up with that.
Me thinks someone doth protest too hard.

Touched a raw nerve boi did we ?
[quote][p][bold]Security22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]j.j.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: “He shut up after that because I am a lot bigger than him.” Oh my sides.[/p][/quote]I had a laugh about that - so if Mr Nicklas was smaller what would have happened? Or is there a threat of intimidation?[/p][/quote]This is what happens when 2 idiots collide. One doesn't know the rules and the other one assumes that physical intimidation is the way to deal with the situation.[/p][/quote]No threat or intimidation ,it was to protect his wife for the abusive outburst of the driver at fault..no one should have to put up with that.[/p][/quote]Me thinks someone doth protest too hard. Touched a raw nerve boi did we ? Gypo.Joe
  • Score: 50

1:28pm Mon 28 Apr 14

nuxleyresident says...

Have another look at the bottom left of the photo - that blistered pavement, practically on the "roundabout", indicates if you're visually impaired that it's a safe place to cross. Beyond belief.
Have another look at the bottom left of the photo - that blistered pavement, practically on the "roundabout", indicates if you're visually impaired that it's a safe place to cross. Beyond belief. nuxleyresident
  • Score: 22

2:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

ACsicsek says...

Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough.
Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough. ACsicsek
  • Score: -55

9:51am Wed 30 Apr 14

PaulErith says...

ACsicsek wrote:
Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough.
Please enlighten us and supply a link to your source information about accidents being down.
[quote][p][bold]ACsicsek[/bold] wrote: Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough.[/p][/quote]Please enlighten us and supply a link to your source information about accidents being down. PaulErith
  • Score: 25

10:21am Wed 30 Apr 14

neighbour says...

Total lack of manners, no respect for one's fellow man (or in this case, woman), bullying and aggressive rudeness: The main reasons to move out of Sexleybeath.
Total lack of manners, no respect for one's fellow man (or in this case, woman), bullying and aggressive rudeness: The main reasons to move out of Sexleybeath. neighbour
  • Score: -29

7:11pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Teaspoon says...

If you drive down the Broadway and turn left at the roundabout, you cannot even see the sign that shows its a pedestrian crossing, the sign is facing the people who need to cross. Thats why drivers are stopping so suddenly.

BEXLEY COUNCIL SORT THIS OUT BEFORE SOMEONE IS KILLED
If you drive down the Broadway and turn left at the roundabout, you cannot even see the sign that shows its a pedestrian crossing, the sign is facing the people who need to cross. Thats why drivers are stopping so suddenly. BEXLEY COUNCIL SORT THIS OUT BEFORE SOMEONE IS KILLED Teaspoon
  • Score: 22

7:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Simon bald says...

Teaspoon wrote:
If you drive down the Broadway and turn left at the roundabout, you cannot even see the sign that shows its a pedestrian crossing, the sign is facing the people who need to cross. Thats why drivers are stopping so suddenly.

BEXLEY COUNCIL SORT THIS OUT BEFORE SOMEONE IS KILLED
someone has been killed by that "roundabout"
[quote][p][bold]Teaspoon[/bold] wrote: If you drive down the Broadway and turn left at the roundabout, you cannot even see the sign that shows its a pedestrian crossing, the sign is facing the people who need to cross. Thats why drivers are stopping so suddenly. BEXLEY COUNCIL SORT THIS OUT BEFORE SOMEONE IS KILLED[/p][/quote]someone has been killed by that "roundabout" Simon bald
  • Score: 17

11:53am Thu 1 May 14

ความจริง says...

This junction is an absolute joke. Another example of the Bexley Council retards wasting Coucil money. On more than one occasion I've witnessed people driving straight across the crossings and not stopping for pedestrians.

SORT IT OUT BEXLEY COUNCIL !
This junction is an absolute joke. Another example of the Bexley Council retards wasting Coucil money. On more than one occasion I've witnessed people driving straight across the crossings and not stopping for pedestrians. SORT IT OUT BEXLEY COUNCIL ! ความจริง
  • Score: 17

12:19pm Thu 1 May 14

neighbour says...

neighbour wrote:
Total lack of manners, no respect for one's fellow man (or in this case, woman), bullying and aggressive rudeness: The main reasons to move out of Sexleybeath.
Exactly why is it that I've received 2 thumbs down?

It all goes to show. The reason I moved a hundred miles away from that cess-pit of rudeness, bad manners and bullies.

Do your worst, that's if you haven't already done so.
[quote][p][bold]neighbour[/bold] wrote: Total lack of manners, no respect for one's fellow man (or in this case, woman), bullying and aggressive rudeness: The main reasons to move out of Sexleybeath.[/p][/quote]Exactly why is it that I've received 2 thumbs down? It all goes to show. The reason I moved a hundred miles away from that cess-pit of rudeness, bad manners and bullies. Do your worst, that's if you haven't already done so. neighbour
  • Score: -24

10:51am Fri 2 May 14

Invicta58 says...

ACsicsek wrote:
Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough.
Lets have some sources to back up this incredible claim that accidents are down at this junction. Shared space is no more than a money wasting fad to keep Conways in business. Just making travel deliberately unpleasant and consusing for drivers does not make them jump onto cycles to reduce their "modal share". It either shifts the traffic elsewhere, or just doubles the congestion. See Orpington High Street if you want to see what a badly implemented shared space does for a town. Absolute madness and lets stop this fad right now.
[quote][p][bold]ACsicsek[/bold] wrote: Accidents at the junction are down since the new layout was introduced. Shared space is a key component to tackling the distressingly high level of the modal share that cars have in Bexley, and should be rolled out across the borough.[/p][/quote]Lets have some sources to back up this incredible claim that accidents are down at this junction. Shared space is no more than a money wasting fad to keep Conways in business. Just making travel deliberately unpleasant and consusing for drivers does not make them jump onto cycles to reduce their "modal share". It either shifts the traffic elsewhere, or just doubles the congestion. See Orpington High Street if you want to see what a badly implemented shared space does for a town. Absolute madness and lets stop this fad right now. Invicta58
  • Score: 23

9:03am Sun 18 May 14

Major Boredom says...

There is no excuse for driving into the back of another car. Pay attention and keep your distance.
There is no excuse for driving into the back of another car. Pay attention and keep your distance. Major Boredom
  • Score: 6

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