Burnt Ash Lane call for speed cameras on 'deadly' road after BMW lamppost crash

News Shopper: The damaged car in Burnt Ash Lane after it crashed into a lamppost The damaged car in Burnt Ash Lane after it crashed into a lamppost

Residents are begging for improved safety on a potentially “deadly” road after a BMW smashed into a lamppost in Burnt Ash Lane on Wednesday (April 23) night.

One neighbour described the “screeching” tyres and loud bang as the car spun 360 degrees - sending the hot top of a lamppost through a resident’s door during the crash at around 9.50pm.

News Shopper: Burnt Ash Lane resident Mike Cripps next to the broken lamppost

There are calls for speeding cameras along the stretch of road between Bromley and Grove Park where cars “speed as if it were a race track”.

A 25-year-old man was taken to Lewisham Hospital with hand injuries following the crash and emergency services have been criticised for their delayed response – with London Ambulance Service (LAS) arriving around an hour and a half after they were called.

Mike Cripps, 43, who lives on Burnt Ash Lane, told News Shopper: “There was a massive screeching tyre noise, within seconds there was a massive bang.

The car had obviously done 360 degrees. It was facing the wrong way.

“He had doughnuted in the middle of the road, which in itself is deadly if someone’s coming the other way. He took out the lamppost and it smashed through a neighbour’s front door.

News Shopper: The top of the lamppost went through a resident's door

“If someone had been around, they would have been a goner.

“It is a deadly, deadly road in my opinion. The consequences could have been an awful lot worse for him and other people.

“Someone will be tragically killed unless something is done about it.”

The father-of-two went on to say he has lived in the road for just five months and witnessed six crashes while he claims other residents say they can still “hear the screams” of a female cyclist hit around 18 months ago.

The sales manager for a security company added: “We have got a bit used to the crashes. It is getting beyond a joke, it is absolutely constant.

“It is a thoroughfare through to Downham but it is not a race track, it is a residential road.”

He says there were around six calls made to emergency services but it took the police around 50 minutes to arrive and LAS around an hour and a half.

Mr Cripps said: “My other concern is why it took the Met and ambulance so long.

“The LAS was an absolute joke, it was an hour and a half before they arrived. It beggars belief.

“There was a bloke with blood coming from his hands. We are not medical people, we didn’t know what internal injuries he might have had.”

An LAS spokesman apologised for the delay and says the incident was not categorised as immediately life-threatening as the patient was alert and breathing normally.

They said: “As the patient was reported to be alert and breathing normally, the incident was not categorised as immediately life threatening.

“An ambulance was originally dispatched at 10.20pm but cancelled for what we assessed as a higher priority call in the area.

“We are sorry it took longer than we would have liked to reach the patient and apologise for any distress caused but we always prioritise our response to patients in a life threatening condition.”

A Met spokesman added: “The call was assessed and was given an S grade (significant) which under national call handling standards necessitates a police officer should be at the scene within 0-60 minutes.

“Officers arrived on scene in 51 minutes within the 60 minute period.

“When officers arrived at the location a 25-year-old man was found at the scene with non-life-threatening injuries.

“Officers remained on scene until the vehicle was recovered and council attended to clear up debris.”

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11:59am Fri 25 Apr 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars.

Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents.

Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him.

Move somewhere else if you don't like it.
I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars. Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents. Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him. Move somewhere else if you don't like it. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 13

12:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

"The car had obviously done 360 degrees. It was facing the wrong way."

180 degrees maybe but 360 would mean it was facing the right way.
"The car had obviously done 360 degrees. It was facing the wrong way." 180 degrees maybe but 360 would mean it was facing the right way. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 16

12:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

Did he not notice there was a road right outside his house when he bought it ?
Did he not notice there was a road right outside his house when he bought it ? Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 12

12:29pm Fri 25 Apr 14

PaulErith says...

Hyper-Deactive wrote:
I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars.

Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents.

Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him.

Move somewhere else if you don't like it.
They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer!
[quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars. Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents. Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him. Move somewhere else if you don't like it.[/p][/quote]They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer! PaulErith
  • Score: -5

1:18pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

PaulErith wrote:
Hyper-Deactive wrote:
I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars.

Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents.

Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him.

Move somewhere else if you don't like it.
They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer!
Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them.

Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not.

The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars. Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents. Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him. Move somewhere else if you don't like it.[/p][/quote]They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer![/p][/quote]Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them. Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not. The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 14

1:29pm Fri 25 Apr 14

PaulErith says...

Hyper-Deactive wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
Hyper-Deactive wrote:
I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars.

Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents.

Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him.

Move somewhere else if you don't like it.
They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer!
Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them.

Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not.

The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is.
I don't agree. Most people that drive like an idiot, still don't want to get fines and points on their licence, so they generally slow for speed cameras.
[quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars. Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents. Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him. Move somewhere else if you don't like it.[/p][/quote]They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer![/p][/quote]Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them. Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not. The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is.[/p][/quote]I don't agree. Most people that drive like an idiot, still don't want to get fines and points on their licence, so they generally slow for speed cameras. PaulErith
  • Score: -5

8:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

“He had doughnuted in the middle of the road, which in itself is deadly if someone’s coming the other way."

So going by this bit of the story the drive was just going round ins circles before he lost control.

No speed camera is going to deter that from happening.

Seems to me he just wanted to get his picture in the papers and it looks like he has done with the typical arms folded stance.
“He had doughnuted in the middle of the road, which in itself is deadly if someone’s coming the other way." So going by this bit of the story the drive was just going round ins circles before he lost control. No speed camera is going to deter that from happening. Seems to me he just wanted to get his picture in the papers and it looks like he has done with the typical arms folded stance. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 11

4:37pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Marty1979 says...

emergency services have been criticised for their delayed response – with London Ambulance Service (LAS) arriving around an hour and a half after they were called."

Perhaps they were doing what Chelyabinsk kept demanding, that they keep to speed limit, don't go through red lights, wait patiently in traffic jams etc
emergency services have been criticised for their delayed response – with London Ambulance Service (LAS) arriving around an hour and a half after they were called." Perhaps they were doing what Chelyabinsk kept demanding, that they keep to speed limit, don't go through red lights, wait patiently in traffic jams etc Marty1979
  • Score: -5

11:09am Sun 27 Apr 14

j.j. says...

PaulErith wrote:
Hyper-Deactive wrote:
PaulErith wrote:
Hyper-Deactive wrote:
I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars.

Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents.

Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him.

Move somewhere else if you don't like it.
They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer!
Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them.

Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not.

The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is.
I don't agree. Most people that drive like an idiot, still don't want to get fines and points on their licence, so they generally slow for speed cameras.
That's right, and that's why a borough wide 20 mph limit is a complete waste of effort, even if combined with speed cameras.

Fortunately, average speed cameras and telematics will in the next few years provide better ways of encouraging people to drive safely.
[quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaulErith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: I live very close to where this happened and the only cars i hear driving down it at high speed are Police Cars. Lived round here for 40 odd years and there have hardly been any serious accidents. Now somebody who has lived round here 5 months wants everything changed to suit him. Move somewhere else if you don't like it.[/p][/quote]They're hardly asking for 'everything changed'! They just want a speed camera. Even if there's hardly any serious accidents, you should be pleased if the road is made even safer![/p][/quote]Speed cameras cause accidents not prevent them. Any idiot who is going to drive like an idiot is going to drive like an idiot whether there is a camera there or not. The road is safe enough as it is, only people who use the word "deadly" make it seem that is.[/p][/quote]I don't agree. Most people that drive like an idiot, still don't want to get fines and points on their licence, so they generally slow for speed cameras.[/p][/quote]That's right, and that's why a borough wide 20 mph limit is a complete waste of effort, even if combined with speed cameras. Fortunately, average speed cameras and telematics will in the next few years provide better ways of encouraging people to drive safely. j.j.
  • Score: -3

8:55am Tue 6 May 14

goldenbroomboy says...

This is not a quiet residential road, it is a busy main road & is essentially Plaistow High Street.

The problem in this case seems to have been the tardy service provided by the Amulance Service.
This is not a quiet residential road, it is a busy main road & is essentially Plaistow High Street. The problem in this case seems to have been the tardy service provided by the Amulance Service. goldenbroomboy
  • Score: 0

5:01pm Wed 7 May 14

BromleyDonut says...

Talking of doughnuts....Mr Cripps has eaten them all
Talking of doughnuts....Mr Cripps has eaten them all BromleyDonut
  • Score: 0

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