'Ridiculous' Bexleyheath Broadway crossing continues to anger residents

News Shopper: 'Ridiculous' Bexleyheath Broadway crossing continues to anger residents 'Ridiculous' Bexleyheath Broadway crossing continues to anger residents

A former police inspector has labelled the refurbished Bexleyheath Broadway "ridiculous" weeks after a motorcyclist was knocked off his bike.

Last month News Shopper revealed how Francis White, 44, was hit by a car from behind when he paused to let a pedestrian cross.

Mr White said there "would be fatalities" on the busy junction which was redone by Bexley Council around a year ago.

The chairman of Bexley Voluntary Forum (BVF) Ian Lindon has echoed these concerns.

The Basing Drive resident told News Shopper he and his BVF colleagues were lobbying the council to change the crossing.

He said: "We are not going to go away.

"I think it is very dangerous and I’ve complained to Boris Johnson about it.

"When I met the man who helped design it, we walked around the space, and I noticed six near misses. He didn’t notice anything.

"I am collecting a list of incidents so I can go to Bexley Council and say the situation is getting ridiculous.

"We discussed it at a meeting last month and we had been told the local blind association had been consulted, but then one of their representatives told me they hadn’t."

News Shopper: 'Ridiculous' Bexleyheath Broadway crossing continues to anger residents

The retired police superintendent is frustrated with the lack of clarity at the crossing.

He said: "It seems like a crossing, there’s a sign showing someone crossing but it’s actually a 'shared space'. And they’ve won an award for it.

"The trouble is in the case of Mr White (pictured below) is that the person before him wouldn’t have been able to see it’s a kind of crossing and so knocks into him because that driver would not have known someone was crossing.

"We will be discussing it at our next voluntary sector meeting and I would ask anyone who has suffered accidents on this crossing to contact me."

Fellow Bexley resident Joe Clark, 26, of Conference Road, told News Shopper: “The new road layout at Bexleyheath Broadway is baffling.

“Introducing non-standard roundabouts, pedestrian crossings and pavements has led to confusion amongst drivers and pedestrians alike – this will only lead to serious accidents.”

However the council say the refurbishment has made the area safer.

News Shopper: Mr White suffered an accident on the crossing

A spokeswoman for Bexley Council said: “The incident News Shopper reported on last month is the first collision the council is aware of in the area since the scheme was completed nine months ago.

“CCTV footage of that incident has shown that a stationary motorcyclist was struck from behind by a car, which is more suggestive of careless driving rather than anything else.

“Prior to the introduction of the scheme 17 recorded personal injury collisions were recorded (five of which were serious) over a three year period, demonstrating the scheme is already providing great improvements in safety.

“The area is based on the Department for Transport’s 'shared space' concept, which aims to create a better balance of priorities between drivers and pedestrians. The 20mph zone helps facilitate this.

“The distinctly striped crossings, together with tactile paving and mounted signs show all road users where pedestrians are expected to cross.

“Legally they have the status of pedestrian refuge islands, but the striped pattern is to encourage drivers and cyclists to stop as they enter and leave the junction if pedestrians are waiting to cross.”

Email IanLindon1@aol.com if you would like to contact him about concerns over the Broadway.

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11:13am Wed 9 Apr 14

concerned.erith says...

They need to install the flashing lights at normal crossings to alert motorists.
They need to install the flashing lights at normal crossings to alert motorists. concerned.erith
  • Score: 19

12:51pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Addickted says...

I do not agree with the apparent hysteria over the new crossing. It is innotive perfectly capable and fit for use. As quite rightly stated elsewhere, if a motorist stops to allow a pedestrian passage, and is struck from behind by another, then it is the fault of the following driver, for travelling too close/too fast to the vehicle in front, whether a motorcycle or car. The area is covered by a blanket 20mph speed limit, which should give all road users a clue. Do not condone bad driving, lack of observation, by blaming the road design. Comments made by a 'former' Police Inspector, maybe promoted to Superintendent, further in the article, suggests that their former employment lends some sort of gravitas to there views. Let me assure you it does not.
The Broadway scheme, works, and is a great improvement over the old. Please don't 'dumb down' and let bad, inattentive drivers win the day.
I do not agree with the apparent hysteria over the new crossing. It is innotive perfectly capable and fit for use. As quite rightly stated elsewhere, if a motorist stops to allow a pedestrian passage, and is struck from behind by another, then it is the fault of the following driver, for travelling too close/too fast to the vehicle in front, whether a motorcycle or car. The area is covered by a blanket 20mph speed limit, which should give all road users a clue. Do not condone bad driving, lack of observation, by blaming the road design. Comments made by a 'former' Police Inspector, maybe promoted to Superintendent, further in the article, suggests that their former employment lends some sort of gravitas to there views. Let me assure you it does not. The Broadway scheme, works, and is a great improvement over the old. Please don't 'dumb down' and let bad, inattentive drivers win the day. Addickted
  • Score: -41

12:52pm Wed 9 Apr 14

ElsieH says...

This "roundabout" causes huge confusion on a daily basis, let alone with a pedestrian crossing right beside it. There may have been less personal injury claims, but I bet there have been more accidents in total.
And the junction with Mayplace Road East is just as bad - there is no signage as to who has right of way, leading to frequent near misses.
This "roundabout" causes huge confusion on a daily basis, let alone with a pedestrian crossing right beside it. There may have been less personal injury claims, but I bet there have been more accidents in total. And the junction with Mayplace Road East is just as bad - there is no signage as to who has right of way, leading to frequent near misses. ElsieH
  • Score: 18

12:56pm Wed 9 Apr 14

HearTheFacts says...

The fact is this junction is a nothing junction!. It's not a round about, its a T junction that is fact!. Bexley Councils idea of ' share', what does that mean?. Does it mean everyone giving way to each other?. Well no, if your walking or cycling and motorcycling your at risk!.

The 'shared' contexts means no fault stands in the event of a claim. As no one has a right of way!, everyone should be giving way!. So no one gets any where, its crazy but that it.

A good publicly stunt, could be on the Alboin Road/ Broadway junction. On May Day to hold May Pole Dancing. That will close the road, well its 'shared' so anyone can walk - dance where they like!.

Maybe other crazy ideas, other Easter could be considered. Remember its a crazy road layout, time for some crazy fun!.
The fact is this junction is a nothing junction!. It's not a round about, its a T junction that is fact!. Bexley Councils idea of ' share', what does that mean?. Does it mean everyone giving way to each other?. Well no, if your walking or cycling and motorcycling your at risk!. The 'shared' contexts means no fault stands in the event of a claim. As no one has a right of way!, everyone should be giving way!. So no one gets any where, its crazy but that it. A good publicly stunt, could be on the Alboin Road/ Broadway junction. On May Day to hold May Pole Dancing. That will close the road, well its 'shared' so anyone can walk - dance where they like!. Maybe other crazy ideas, other Easter could be considered. Remember its a crazy road layout, time for some crazy fun!. HearTheFacts
  • Score: 7

4:06pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Bus Driver says...

ElsieH wrote:
This "roundabout" causes huge confusion on a daily basis, let alone with a pedestrian crossing right beside it. There may have been less personal injury claims, but I bet there have been more accidents in total.
And the junction with Mayplace Road East is just as bad - there is no signage as to who has right of way, leading to frequent near misses.
That's exactly it...at BOTH junctions, NO-ONE has right of way.

Part of the problem is very few drivers observe the new 20mph speed limit.
[quote][p][bold]ElsieH[/bold] wrote: This "roundabout" causes huge confusion on a daily basis, let alone with a pedestrian crossing right beside it. There may have been less personal injury claims, but I bet there have been more accidents in total. And the junction with Mayplace Road East is just as bad - there is no signage as to who has right of way, leading to frequent near misses.[/p][/quote]That's exactly it...at BOTH junctions, NO-ONE has right of way. Part of the problem is very few drivers observe the new 20mph speed limit. Bus Driver
  • Score: 5

7:36pm Wed 9 Apr 14

HearTheFacts says...

Addickted wrote:
I do not agree with the apparent hysteria over the new crossing. It is innotive perfectly capable and fit for use. As quite rightly stated elsewhere, if a motorist stops to allow a pedestrian passage, and is struck from behind by another, then it is the fault of the following driver, for travelling too close/too fast to the vehicle in front, whether a motorcycle or car. The area is covered by a blanket 20mph speed limit, which should give all road users a clue. Do not condone bad driving, lack of observation, by blaming the road design. Comments made by a 'former' Police Inspector, maybe promoted to Superintendent, further in the article, suggests that their former employment lends some sort of gravitas to there views. Let me assure you it does not.
The Broadway scheme, works, and is a great improvement over the old. Please don't 'dumb down' and let bad, inattentive drivers win the day.
So you think is a great improvement, over the old.

Trade is down since, these ' great improvements', shops closing in Bexleyheath at an alarming rate. Even some of these shops displayed in thier Windows why!.

So what is the Alboin Road/ Broadway junction?. I would suggest you check the signs. It is a T junction, partly made to look like a round about!. If thats not confusing, what is?.

A further question are you connected to Bexley Council?.

It's a crazy road layout, designed by crazy people for crazy people!.
[quote][p][bold]Addickted[/bold] wrote: I do not agree with the apparent hysteria over the new crossing. It is innotive perfectly capable and fit for use. As quite rightly stated elsewhere, if a motorist stops to allow a pedestrian passage, and is struck from behind by another, then it is the fault of the following driver, for travelling too close/too fast to the vehicle in front, whether a motorcycle or car. The area is covered by a blanket 20mph speed limit, which should give all road users a clue. Do not condone bad driving, lack of observation, by blaming the road design. Comments made by a 'former' Police Inspector, maybe promoted to Superintendent, further in the article, suggests that their former employment lends some sort of gravitas to there views. Let me assure you it does not. The Broadway scheme, works, and is a great improvement over the old. Please don't 'dumb down' and let bad, inattentive drivers win the day.[/p][/quote]So you think is a great improvement, over the old. Trade is down since, these ' great improvements', shops closing in Bexleyheath at an alarming rate. Even some of these shops displayed in thier Windows why!. So what is the Alboin Road/ Broadway junction?. I would suggest you check the signs. It is a T junction, partly made to look like a round about!. If thats not confusing, what is?. A further question are you connected to Bexley Council?. It's a crazy road layout, designed by crazy people for crazy people!. HearTheFacts
  • Score: 11

1:23pm Thu 10 Apr 14

ACsicsek says...

The evidence released by Bexley council demonstrates that the new layout has resulted in fewer personal injury collisions, yet people continue to insist that the scheme is dangerous - perhaps their protestations have more to do with being opposed to something new and less to do with reality.

Shared schemes are a great way to chip away at the primacy of cars on Bexley's roads, particularly in town centre areas. Bring it on in Sidcup, Welling, Erith, Crayford!
The evidence released by Bexley council demonstrates that the new layout has resulted in fewer personal injury collisions, yet people continue to insist that the scheme is dangerous - perhaps their protestations have more to do with being opposed to something new and less to do with reality. Shared schemes are a great way to chip away at the primacy of cars on Bexley's roads, particularly in town centre areas. Bring it on in Sidcup, Welling, Erith, Crayford! ACsicsek
  • Score: -11

2:55pm Thu 10 Apr 14

HearTheFacts says...

ACsicsek wrote:
The evidence released by Bexley council demonstrates that the new layout has resulted in fewer personal injury collisions, yet people continue to insist that the scheme is dangerous - perhaps their protestations have more to do with being opposed to something new and less to do with reality.

Shared schemes are a great way to chip away at the primacy of cars on Bexley's roads, particularly in town centre areas. Bring it on in Sidcup, Welling, Erith, Crayford!
Bexley Council evidence, well would you believe it?. Do you think had they released data showing any thing else?. Also at what dates, such evidence was collected.

Could the reduction be because many people are avoiding Bexleyheath?.

Statistics, are a great way to fool people!. As also the claim that Bexley Council's new offices will save a million pounds a year, is claimed. But will it?. If its is wrong do you think Bexley Council will admit its figures were wrong?.

I see a big problem with Bexleyheath's road layout, for cyclists. A chance missed, by a council claiming to be cycling friendly!. What council puts a rubbish bin in a cycle lane?. Yes Bexley Council!, however now removed.
[quote][p][bold]ACsicsek[/bold] wrote: The evidence released by Bexley council demonstrates that the new layout has resulted in fewer personal injury collisions, yet people continue to insist that the scheme is dangerous - perhaps their protestations have more to do with being opposed to something new and less to do with reality. Shared schemes are a great way to chip away at the primacy of cars on Bexley's roads, particularly in town centre areas. Bring it on in Sidcup, Welling, Erith, Crayford![/p][/quote]Bexley Council evidence, well would you believe it?. Do you think had they released data showing any thing else?. Also at what dates, such evidence was collected. Could the reduction be because many people are avoiding Bexleyheath?. Statistics, are a great way to fool people!. As also the claim that Bexley Council's new offices will save a million pounds a year, is claimed. But will it?. If its is wrong do you think Bexley Council will admit its figures were wrong?. I see a big problem with Bexleyheath's road layout, for cyclists. A chance missed, by a council claiming to be cycling friendly!. What council puts a rubbish bin in a cycle lane?. Yes Bexley Council!, however now removed. HearTheFacts
  • Score: 9

12:52am Mon 14 Apr 14

Invicta58 says...

Shared space is just the latest fad that all councils slavishly follow for their expensive vanity projects. Did they really pay Parsons Brinkerhoff £4m consultancy fees for this folly?
Shared space is just the latest fad that all councils slavishly follow for their expensive vanity projects. Did they really pay Parsons Brinkerhoff £4m consultancy fees for this folly? Invicta58
  • Score: -1

10:59pm Mon 14 Apr 14

sas21 says...

It's only a matter of time before a child is knocked down and seriously injured, or worse! There is a primary school right near the junction next to the police station where young children have to cross with their parents. Most drivers don't notice the crossing until they are right on top of it. It's a danger.
It's only a matter of time before a child is knocked down and seriously injured, or worse! There is a primary school right near the junction next to the police station where young children have to cross with their parents. Most drivers don't notice the crossing until they are right on top of it. It's a danger. sas21
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Tue 15 Apr 14

mainman says...

there is no sign to say it is a roundabout, so it isnt a roundabout.
there is no sign to say it is a roundabout, so it isnt a roundabout. mainman
  • Score: 0

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