Huge multi-million plans for intu Bromley unveiled

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Huge multi-million plans for Intu Bromley unveiled

Huge multi-million plans for Intu Bromley unveiled

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Huge multi-million plans for Intu Bromley have been exclusively revealed to News Shopper.

The £24m proposals, which could change the face of the town centre, will include shopping centre refurbishments, new restaurants, a boutique cinema and a garden terrace.

Two stages of a three-tier project have already been confirmed, while renovations are scheduled to begin next month.

Meanwhile, work on an outdoor space, featuring five family restaurants, is set to begin later this year and Carluccio’s could open its doors as early as the coming summer.

Marc Myers, who was brought in as the new centre manager in December, unveiled his bold vision that he says will "transform" the town centre and turn Intu Bromley into a thriving "hub".

He told News Shopper: "It’s really exciting - it’s about making the customer experience better. It’s not just about shopping.

"We want to see people spending the day here with their families. We aim to deliver much more."

The 53-year-old mentioned a "change in emphasis" for Bromley and also touched on potential parking fears.

He noted: "This is a £24 million investment in the town - we’re a metro city and we want to maintain that status.

"Bromley is an affluent area - it’s got huge potential and we want people to stay in Bromley and shop here.

"It would be a risk to do nothing and I’m excited about what’s ahead.

"We do not anticipate parking congestion will increase significantly.

"Even after this development, Intu Bromley would still have more favourable parking standards than other recently constructed shopping malls in Greater London and well in excess of current Bromley and Great London Authority parking standards."

The project comes as a Westfield mall looks set for Croydon and Dartford’s Bluewater bosses press ahead with an expansion.

Timeline of developments

- April 2014: Wide-scale renovations are set for the shopper centre interior, which will cost £3.5 million and include 16 new toilets.

- Summer 2014: Carluccio’s restaurant is hoped to be ready for service as early as summer this year.

- October 2014: Work on a new £6 million terrace and restaurant area in Queen’s Gardens is planned to start in the autumn, expected to be completed in spring next year.

- 2015: Planning permission could be granted that will see millions more spent on a new boutique cinema and further leisure facilities that would be completed by 2017.

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10:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words.

FREE PARKING !


Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. )
I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words. FREE PARKING ! Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. ) Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -13

11:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

The way this is going it looks like Queen’s Gardens will cease to exist.
The way this is going it looks like Queen’s Gardens will cease to exist. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 37

1:20pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Bimembris says...

It could do with a face lift, but I thought the Bromley South development was having a cinema, do we need two? They should also note that paying to park will deter a high number of people, it could be free for a few hours to avoid commuters using the car park or free parking if you shop in Bromley (Canary Wharf do this at weekends, 3 hours free if you spend at least £10)
It could do with a face lift, but I thought the Bromley South development was having a cinema, do we need two? They should also note that paying to park will deter a high number of people, it could be free for a few hours to avoid commuters using the car park or free parking if you shop in Bromley (Canary Wharf do this at weekends, 3 hours free if you spend at least £10) Bimembris
  • Score: 35

2:39pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Marty1979 says...

well in excess of current Bromley and Great London Authority parking standards."

But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to find a space
well in excess of current Bromley and Great London Authority parking standards." But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to find a space Marty1979
  • Score: 16

2:46pm Wed 19 Mar 14

goldenbroomboy says...

If anywhere needs refurbishing it is Orpington, rather than Bromley. IMHO The Glades just needs to attract some more retailers

Marc is 53? He makes me look like George Clooney, I will try to have my photo taken standing to him..
If anywhere needs refurbishing it is Orpington, rather than Bromley. IMHO The Glades just needs to attract some more retailers Marc is 53? He makes me look like George Clooney, I will try to have my photo taken standing to him.. goldenbroomboy
  • Score: 8

2:50pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

Marty1979 wrote:
well in excess of current Bromley and Great London Authority parking standards."

But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to find a space
FIXED

But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to get near a car park
[quote][p][bold]Marty1979[/bold] wrote: well in excess of current Bromley and Great London Authority parking standards." But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to find a space[/p][/quote]FIXED But is that actually enough? Most weekends it's difficult to get near a car park Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 9

2:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

goldenbroomboy wrote:
If anywhere needs refurbishing it is Orpington, rather than Bromley. IMHO The Glades just needs to attract some more retailers

Marc is 53? He makes me look like George Clooney, I will try to have my photo taken standing to him..
I don't understand it either why they would expand and build more empty units.
[quote][p][bold]goldenbroomboy[/bold] wrote: If anywhere needs refurbishing it is Orpington, rather than Bromley. IMHO The Glades just needs to attract some more retailers Marc is 53? He makes me look like George Clooney, I will try to have my photo taken standing to him..[/p][/quote]I don't understand it either why they would expand and build more empty units. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 13

3:01pm Wed 19 Mar 14

GreenPea4 says...

Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers?
Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers? GreenPea4
  • Score: 9

3:03pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

GreenPea4 wrote:
Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers?
Because it is the law
[quote][p][bold]GreenPea4[/bold] wrote: Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers?[/p][/quote]Because it is the law Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 8

3:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

GreenPea4 wrote:
Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers?
To be more specific, to do the job they do they need a Door Supervisor licence, a normal Security Guard licence is not enough.

The main reason they wear them on their arms is because if they have to get into it with a shoplifter for example and restrain them then there is less chance of the licence being grabbed, lost etc.
[quote][p][bold]GreenPea4[/bold] wrote: Why do the security guards wear arm bands looking like night club bouncers?[/p][/quote]To be more specific, to do the job they do they need a Door Supervisor licence, a normal Security Guard licence is not enough. The main reason they wear them on their arms is because if they have to get into it with a shoplifter for example and restrain them then there is less chance of the licence being grabbed, lost etc. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 4

3:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Hyper-Deactive says...

That licence also needs to be visible at all times.

If it was on a neck chain of some kind it could easily be pulled away from the security personnel.
That licence also needs to be visible at all times. If it was on a neck chain of some kind it could easily be pulled away from the security personnel. Hyper-Deactive
  • Score: 2

6:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

white rabbit9 says...

Don't ask where the money is coming from, you get your question deleted. Uncovering stones reveals all the creeps.
Don't ask where the money is coming from, you get your question deleted. Uncovering stones reveals all the creeps. white rabbit9
  • Score: 19

11:10pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Stop_Whining says...

This is a great idea, attract more yobs from other borough's to Bromley. Bromley is a dive, has been for years and will continue to be for years ahead.
This is a great idea, attract more yobs from other borough's to Bromley. Bromley is a dive, has been for years and will continue to be for years ahead. Stop_Whining
  • Score: -4

8:26am Thu 20 Mar 14

goldenbroomboy says...

Stop_Whining wrote:
This is a great idea, attract more yobs from other borough's to Bromley. Bromley is a dive, has been for years and will continue to be for years ahead.
Don't be silly, I don't think anybody currently living in Bromley borough would rather live in Croydon, Bexley,or Lewisham!

As regards shopping centres, whilst The Whitgift itself is ok, the problem is getting there & having to walk the gauntlet of chavs & mongs that line the main streets of the quasi city. Broadway is basically a bigger version of The Walnuts, with customer service to match ie instead of being asked "How may I help you?" the attitude is "What do you want"?. As for The Riverdale, I only ever use the place if I am desperate for the loo.

Yes The Royal Arcade in Tunbridge Wells is perhaps more attractive than The Glades, but it only seems to sell playthings for the idle rich to waste their money on.
[quote][p][bold]Stop_Whining[/bold] wrote: This is a great idea, attract more yobs from other borough's to Bromley. Bromley is a dive, has been for years and will continue to be for years ahead.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly, I don't think anybody currently living in Bromley borough would rather live in Croydon, Bexley,or Lewisham! As regards shopping centres, whilst The Whitgift itself is ok, the problem is getting there & having to walk the gauntlet of chavs & mongs that line the main streets of the quasi city. Broadway is basically a bigger version of The Walnuts, with customer service to match ie instead of being asked "How may I help you?" the attitude is "What do you want"?. As for The Riverdale, I only ever use the place if I am desperate for the loo. Yes The Royal Arcade in Tunbridge Wells is perhaps more attractive than The Glades, but it only seems to sell playthings for the idle rich to waste their money on. goldenbroomboy
  • Score: 3

3:55pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Rockerdave says...

Because I already work for a cinema company in Croydon. I can see some pros and cons with regards to having a separate cinema in the shopping center.

One of the main pros is that it will generate a lot more jobs in the shopping center.

But one of main cons is that, depending on who has the license for the one in the shopping center, it could create a competition war between the one at Bromley South and this new proposed one.
Now since Bromley council has already invested £90million on the site in Bromley South, it could hurt its investment if it goes for this one as well.

I'm no expert on business (so correct me if I'm wrong here), but it would be smarter if the same company who has the license for the one at Bromley South also gets this one as well, if it goes ahead. That way it could split the investment between them and no one loses out.
Because I already work for a cinema company in Croydon. I can see some pros and cons with regards to having a separate cinema in the shopping center. One of the main pros is that it will generate a lot more jobs in the shopping center. But one of main cons is that, depending on who has the license for the one in the shopping center, it could create a competition war between the one at Bromley South and this new proposed one. Now since Bromley council has already invested £90million on the site in Bromley South, it could hurt its investment if it goes for this one as well. I'm no expert on business (so correct me if I'm wrong here), but it would be smarter if the same company who has the license for the one at Bromley South also gets this one as well, if it goes ahead. That way it could split the investment between them and no one loses out. Rockerdave
  • Score: 1

12:48am Fri 21 Mar 14

mseven says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words.

FREE PARKING !


Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. )
Free parking wouldn't work, in places like Bluewater they have many more parking spaces. INTU Bromley has 1,420 parking spaces (although the cinema would reduce this amount) and Bluewater has 13,000 spaces for cars and 50 for coaches. If INTU Bromley was to give free parking there would be no parking for the people who want to shop there and it will affect business for other near by car parks that need to charge for parking. Having free parking would probably result in more of the car park becoming non parking use like the toilets that were moved from opposite McDonalds, although INTU recently got planning permission to re open the toilets opposite McDonalds.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words. FREE PARKING ! Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. )[/p][/quote]Free parking wouldn't work, in places like Bluewater they have many more parking spaces. INTU Bromley has 1,420 parking spaces (although the cinema would reduce this amount) and Bluewater has 13,000 spaces for cars and 50 for coaches. If INTU Bromley was to give free parking there would be no parking for the people who want to shop there and it will affect business for other near by car parks that need to charge for parking. Having free parking would probably result in more of the car park becoming non parking use like the toilets that were moved from opposite McDonalds, although INTU recently got planning permission to re open the toilets opposite McDonalds. mseven
  • Score: 1

12:53am Fri 21 Mar 14

mseven says...

Hyper-Deactive wrote:
The way this is going it looks like Queen’s Gardens will cease to exist.
The plan is for where the Regent Arcade, Waterstones, Head, Esquires, McDonalds, Shopmobility and car parking spaces are now and not Queen's Gardens
[quote][p][bold]Hyper-Deactive[/bold] wrote: The way this is going it looks like Queen’s Gardens will cease to exist.[/p][/quote]The plan is for where the Regent Arcade, Waterstones, Head, Esquires, McDonalds, Shopmobility and car parking spaces are now and not Queen's Gardens mseven
  • Score: 2

1:00am Fri 21 Mar 14

mseven says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Don't ask where the money is coming from, you get your question deleted. Uncovering stones reveals all the creeps.
Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Don't ask where the money is coming from, you get your question deleted. Uncovering stones reveals all the creeps.[/p][/quote]Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres. mseven
  • Score: 3

1:53am Fri 21 Mar 14

mseven says...

I have worked at INTU Bromley (but not for INTU/Capital Shopping Centres). When I worked there everyday you would get people asking where the food court is.

The shops in the regent arcade will be taken away, this means that there are less smaller shops in the shopping centre.

Looking at the proposed floor plans of the new proposal there are 9 or 10 more restaurants but if the 5 new outdoor restaurants are coming why would the 9 or 10 other restaurants be needed?

I would agree with all the people who were always asking where the food court was when I worked there. With a food court families and groups of people can choose what they want to eat and eat together. If there are individual restaurants it doesn't give choice for families but a food court does. Coming from a large family when you are going out as a family with family friends someone wants McDonalds, another wants KFC, someone wants spud u like and another wants pizza and so a food court gives families and groups coming out of the cinema choice and they satisfy every member of the group. It would also attract other food outlets because some restaurants wouldn't need a large seating area all day, those who sell breakfasts would require a large amount of seating for the morning before the retail shops open for the day. If you take for example Café Gardinio on the upper mall they close half of the shop after lunch time.
I have worked at INTU Bromley (but not for INTU/Capital Shopping Centres). When I worked there everyday you would get people asking where the food court is. The shops in the regent arcade will be taken away, this means that there are less smaller shops in the shopping centre. Looking at the proposed floor plans of the new proposal there are 9 or 10 more restaurants but if the 5 new outdoor restaurants are coming why would the 9 or 10 other restaurants be needed? I would agree with all the people who were always asking where the food court was when I worked there. With a food court families and groups of people can choose what they want to eat and eat together. If there are individual restaurants it doesn't give choice for families but a food court does. Coming from a large family when you are going out as a family with family friends someone wants McDonalds, another wants KFC, someone wants spud u like and another wants pizza and so a food court gives families and groups coming out of the cinema choice and they satisfy every member of the group. It would also attract other food outlets because some restaurants wouldn't need a large seating area all day, those who sell breakfasts would require a large amount of seating for the morning before the retail shops open for the day. If you take for example Café Gardinio on the upper mall they close half of the shop after lunch time. mseven
  • Score: 5

9:52am Sat 22 Mar 14

Invicta58 says...

Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for?
Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for? Invicta58
  • Score: 4

11:44pm Sat 22 Mar 14

mseven says...

Invicta58 wrote:
Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for?
At Orpington their work was delayed because they made an amendment on the planning permission and needed to wait for it to be approved. I heard that they also needed some cables moved and they had to be moved by the electric company and BT Openreach and they are starting work on it now. From what I an aware Odeon Orpington is meant to be opening in spring 2015 so they have over a year to complete it and they are still on schedule.
[quote][p][bold]Invicta58[/bold] wrote: Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for?[/p][/quote]At Orpington their work was delayed because they made an amendment on the planning permission and needed to wait for it to be approved. I heard that they also needed some cables moved and they had to be moved by the electric company and BT Openreach and they are starting work on it now. From what I an aware Odeon Orpington is meant to be opening in spring 2015 so they have over a year to complete it and they are still on schedule. mseven
  • Score: 2

12:58am Wed 26 Mar 14

Invicta58 says...

mseven wrote:
Invicta58 wrote:
Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for?
At Orpington their work was delayed because they made an amendment on the planning permission and needed to wait for it to be approved. I heard that they also needed some cables moved and they had to be moved by the electric company and BT Openreach and they are starting work on it now. From what I an aware Odeon Orpington is meant to be opening in spring 2015 so they have over a year to complete it and they are still on schedule.
I've just checked online and the amendment was a Non Material Change simply to add drawing numbers to the consent because Bromley's Planning department missed them. It did not delay any work. The original press release said the development would be complete by Xmas 2013 and the cinema would open in spring 2014. I make it well behind schedule as a single brick hasn't been laid by the stated date. It was delayed until all the units were leased and there has been no update from the owners for 6 months. If it is starting there would be posters all over the Walnut. I'm not convinced it will still go ahead
[quote][p][bold]mseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invicta58[/bold] wrote: Looks like the Orpington cinema - started but now run out of money - is even less likely to complete. Does anyone in the Bromley Planning Department have a clue what they are granting permission for?[/p][/quote]At Orpington their work was delayed because they made an amendment on the planning permission and needed to wait for it to be approved. I heard that they also needed some cables moved and they had to be moved by the electric company and BT Openreach and they are starting work on it now. From what I an aware Odeon Orpington is meant to be opening in spring 2015 so they have over a year to complete it and they are still on schedule.[/p][/quote]I've just checked online and the amendment was a Non Material Change simply to add drawing numbers to the consent because Bromley's Planning department missed them. It did not delay any work. The original press release said the development would be complete by Xmas 2013 and the cinema would open in spring 2014. I make it well behind schedule as a single brick hasn't been laid by the stated date. It was delayed until all the units were leased and there has been no update from the owners for 6 months. If it is starting there would be posters all over the Walnut. I'm not convinced it will still go ahead Invicta58
  • Score: 0

8:33pm Wed 26 Mar 14

white rabbit9 says...

Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres.
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Yeah right, do you know how the system works? NO!! Keep the animals busy on the farm while the banksters carry on stealing. george orwell was 100% correct.
Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres. -------------------- - Yeah right, do you know how the system works? NO!! Keep the animals busy on the farm while the banksters carry on stealing. george orwell was 100% correct. white rabbit9
  • Score: -2

8:32am Thu 27 Mar 14

mseven says...

white rabbit9 wrote:
Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres.
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Yeah right, do you know how the system works? NO!! Keep the animals busy on the farm while the banksters carry on stealing. george orwell was 100% correct.
I am not sure you know how it works. I have rented and researched renting units in shopping centres and understand logic so I know what I am talking about. I am not sure what you mean. It is a logically and legitimate business. A shopping centre company buys land and builds a shopping centre on it and rents the units to companies for shops and restaurants.
[quote][p][bold]white rabbit9[/bold] wrote: Why would someone ask such a silly question? According to their accounts INTU Properties PLC has a net worth of over £3.5 billion and £317.5 Million in cash. They get money from shops renting spaces in their shopping centres. -------------------- - Yeah right, do you know how the system works? NO!! Keep the animals busy on the farm while the banksters carry on stealing. george orwell was 100% correct.[/p][/quote]I am not sure you know how it works. I have rented and researched renting units in shopping centres and understand logic so I know what I am talking about. I am not sure what you mean. It is a logically and legitimate business. A shopping centre company buys land and builds a shopping centre on it and rents the units to companies for shops and restaurants. mseven
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Sat 5 Apr 14

mseven says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words.

FREE PARKING !


Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. )
I would say three words, longer opening hours for all shops. Shopping centres like Bluewater, Lakeside and the two London Westfields close at 9pm or 10pm on weekdays which means people who work 9 to 5 jobs have the ability to do more shopping. In Bromley there are shops in the high street that close at 7pm but INTU Bromley closes at 6pm on weekdays (excluding Thursday). Marks and Spencer and Boots are open later and they're still busy at their closing times.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: I'll give you an easy fix to generate business for Bromley in two words. FREE PARKING ! Forget the turd polishing. ( Well some of it. )[/p][/quote]I would say three words, longer opening hours for all shops. Shopping centres like Bluewater, Lakeside and the two London Westfields close at 9pm or 10pm on weekdays which means people who work 9 to 5 jobs have the ability to do more shopping. In Bromley there are shops in the high street that close at 7pm but INTU Bromley closes at 6pm on weekdays (excluding Thursday). Marks and Spencer and Boots are open later and they're still busy at their closing times. mseven
  • Score: -2

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