UPDATE: Stephen Lawrence detective 'may have acted corruptly' and Met 'spied on family'

Stephen Lawrence detective 'may have acted corruptly'

Stephen Lawrence detective 'may have acted corruptly'

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There is evidence to suspect one of the detectives on the original Stephen Lawrence murder investigation acted corruptly, a major review has found.

There was a high level of suspicion that former Detective Sergeant John Davidson was corrupt both before and after he worked on the police investigation, a report by Mark Ellison QC says.

And there are still lines of inquiry that may be capable of providing evidence of corruption among other officers, although that evidence does not currently exist, the review adds.

Stephen, 18, a would-be architect, was stabbed to death by a group of up to six white youths, in an unprovoked racist attack as he waited at a bus stop in Eltham on April 22 1993. It took more than 18 years to bring two of Stephen's killers to justice.

Mr Ellison QC, who was commissioned by the Home Secretary to conduct the review, successfully prosecuted Gary Dobson and David Norris for Stephen's murder in 2012.

The Ellison report says that, in late July 1998, Scotland Yard's Anti-Corruption Command held a debriefing with former Detective Constable Neil Putnam, in which he made claims against Mr Davidson.

The barrister says that both the intelligence picture suggesting Mr Davidson was a corrupt officer and the content of Mr Putnam's debriefing should have been revealed to the public inquiry led by Sir William Macpherson.

"It is a source of some concern to us that nobody in the MPS who was aware of the detail of what Neil Putnam was saying about Mr Davidson appears to have thought to ask him about Mr Davidson's motives in the Lawrence case," the report says.

After the Macpherson report was published in 1999, Mr Putnam, who was jailed for his own, separate corruption offences in 1998, alleged that, in the summer of 1994, Mr Davidson had admitted having a " corrupt connection" with Clifford Norris, the convicted drug-smuggling father of Stephen's murderer David.

Mr Ellison says that, while independent corroboration of Mr Putnam's allegation does not currently exist, there are " outstanding lines of inquiry" that could be investigated, which may change that assessment.

The barrister adds that "it is not impossible to envisage that the inquiry might have been driven to the conclusion that there must have been more to John Davidson's failure to develop information and evidence in the Lawrence investigation than simply an inappropriate manner and unfortunate unconscious racism".

Assuming Mr Putnam is available and willing to give evidence, there are reasonable grounds for suspecting that Mr Davidson acted corruptly, the findings said.

Mr Ellison's report adds: "Other than Mr Putnam's potential evidence, the material available which suggests that Mr Davidson may have been corrupt in the Stephen Lawrence investigation remains 'intelligence' and not 'evidence'."

In addition, Mr Ellison said his review has not been able to uncover all material evidence relating to the issue of corruption, adding that it is clear there are "significant areas" where relevant Metropolitan Police records should exist but cannot be found.

The original anti-corruption intelligence database itself cannot be accounted for, the report adds.

Considering whether a further public inquiry should be held, Mr Ellison said the potential for any such inquiry to discover more than his own review has may well be "limited".

"Fundamentally this is because of the chaotic state of the historical records held by the Metropolitan Police Service," he added.

Judge-led review

A judge-led public inquiry is to be launched into the work of undercover officers in the wake of the "profoundly shocking" findings.

In his review, Mark Ellison QC found that a Met Police "spy" was working within the "Lawrence family camp" during the course of the judicial inquiry into matters arising from Stephen's death.

The undercover officer in question, who is unnamed in the report, was deployed by the Special Demonstration Squad (SDS), a unit that has been at the heart of a wide range of allegations and will now be subject to a public inquiry.

In a review labelled "deeply troubling" by the Home Secretary, Mr Ellison said there is evidence to suspect one of the detectives on the original Stephen Lawrence murder investigation - detective sergeant John Davidson - acted corruptly.

Last June, former SDS officer Peter Francis claimed he had been deployed undercover from September 1993 and tasked to find out any intelligence that might be used to "smear" or undermine the Lawrence family campaign.

As a result, Mr Ellison's terms of reference were extended, and Operation Herne, an existing police investigation into the activities of the SDS supervised by Mick Creedon, chief constable of Derbyshire, agreed to prioritise "Lawrence-related" aspects of its work.

The SDS, a top secret squad within Special Branch which was operational from 1968 to 2006, focused on infiltrating campaign groups with the potential for public disorder, such as environmental and animal rights activists.

Undercover officers were deployed by the SDS into activist groups that then sought to attach themselves to the Lawrence's family's campaign to challenge the adequacy of the investigation into Stephen's murder.

Mr Ellison said: " The mere presence of an undercover Metropolitan Police officer in the wider Lawrence family camp in such circumstances is highly questionable in terms of the appearance it creates of the MPS having a spy in the family's camp."

The undercover officer in question - referred to as N81 - was also found to have held a meeting with acting Detective Inspector Richard Walton, who had been seconded to the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) Lawrence review team, responsible for making submissions to the Macpherson inquiry.

Mr Ellison branded this meeting "a completely improper use" of knowledge gained by the deployment of N81.

"We find the opening of such a channel of communication at that time to have been 'wrong-headed and inappropriate'," Mr Ellison added.

However, Mr Ellison said he and his review team were not able to make any "definitive findings" concerning Mr Francis's claims and a public inquiry might be better placed to do so.

The review firmly concludes that information regarding undercover policing was withheld from the Macpherson inquiry.

The QC added that he felt "bound" to flag concerns about the wider implications of the findings on SDS activities - namely that the way in which the unit operated could have ultimately tainted criminal proceedings.

Mr Ellison said the nature of undercover work placed serving officers inside groups of activists who came into conflict with the police and faced arrest and prosecution.

He added: "Having a system whereby that activity was shrouded in almost total secrecy and the role of, and intelligence gained by, the undercover officer was not considered in relation to the prosecution's duty of disclosure in criminal proceedings must, in our assessment, produce the potential for there to have been unfairness in some of those proceedings."

Mr Ellison found that both the Independent Police Complaints Commission 2006 report into corruption allegations and the Metropolitan Police?s own review in 2012 were inadequate.

He added that Scotland Yard's record-keeping on its own investigations into police corruption are a cause of concern with key evidence the subject of mass shredding in 2003.

And a hard drive containing relevant data was only discovered in November 2013 after more than a year of searching for it.

Addressing the House of Commons, the Home Secretary said: "The totality of what the report shows is deeply troubling."

Referring to Mr Ellison's comments on the work of the SDS, Mrs May said: "This meant that the SDS operated as if exempt from the proper rules of disclosure in criminal cases.

"And this means there is a real potential for miscarriages of justice to have occurred."

"In particular, Ellison says there is an inevitable potential for SDS officers to have been viewed by those they infiltrated as encouraging, and participating in, criminal behaviour," she added.

Officers in criminal trials failing to reveal their true identities and failing to correct evidence given in court which they knew was wrong meant people could have been convicted for offences when they should not have been, Mrs May warned.

"We must therefore establish if there have been miscarriages of justice," she said.

Mr Ellison will now lead a further review to identify specific cases affected, assisted by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) and Attorney General, she said.

Announcing a public inquiry into the work of the SDS and undercover officers, Mrs May said: "The picture which emerges about the SDS from this report, and from other material in the public domain, is of significant failings of judgment, intrusive supervision and leadership over a sustained period."

She added: "I don't say this lightly, but I think that the greatest possible scrutiny is now needed into what has taken place. And so, given the gravity of what now been uncovered, I have decided that a public inquiry, led by a judge, is necessary to investigate undercover policing and the operation of the SDS."

Mrs May announced that she would bring in new legislation to create a specific offence of police corruption, to replace current "outdated" misconduct in public office.

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12:04pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Techvedic says...

Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic)
Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic) Techvedic
  • Score: -23

12:55pm Thu 6 Mar 14

mouthalmighty says...

Wow what strength and determination the lawrences have shown. Their persistance will not only bring justice them, BUT for all of us, black white and indifferent. The institutions have, for a long time, relied on our emotional states and apathy in order to get away with so many injustices. I couldn't have continued this quest for justice for so long, I wouldn't have had the strength. I will say it again and continue to say it and mean it, thst persistance pays off. Doreen and co., are a fine example to us all.

If we all questioned our grievances more often, the world would be a better place.
Wow what strength and determination the lawrences have shown. Their persistance will not only bring justice them, BUT for all of us, black white and indifferent. The institutions have, for a long time, relied on our emotional states and apathy in order to get away with so many injustices. I couldn't have continued this quest for justice for so long, I wouldn't have had the strength. I will say it again and continue to say it and mean it, thst persistance pays off. Doreen and co., are a fine example to us all. If we all questioned our grievances more often, the world would be a better place. mouthalmighty
  • Score: -25

1:46pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Joelo says...

Just how many more times is this going to keep being dragged up? It was over 20 years ago FFS
Just how many more times is this going to keep being dragged up? It was over 20 years ago FFS Joelo
  • Score: 33

2:43pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

Joelo wrote:
Just how many more times is this going to keep being dragged up? It was over 20 years ago FFS
One could say the same about lots of things (including the up coming WWI anniversary), but it is important that these things are remembered and the lessons learnt thereafter also remembered.

As Stephen was a member of my former running club (Cambridge Harriers), I for one am glad his family have stuck with this - I am sure if it had been your son who was murdered in cold blood, you would feel the same. The fact that the family had to suffer the double indignity of racism and slander only goes to show what an incredibly strong and wonderful family they are. To know that their son did not die in vein may be a small comfort to them; things have changed, but full justice has yet to be served.

Long may this continue to be 'dragged up'....

Stephen Lawrence R.I.P.
[quote][p][bold]Joelo[/bold] wrote: Just how many more times is this going to keep being dragged up? It was over 20 years ago FFS[/p][/quote]One could say the same about lots of things (including the up coming WWI anniversary), but it is important that these things are remembered and the lessons learnt thereafter also remembered. As Stephen was a member of my former running club (Cambridge Harriers), I for one am glad his family have stuck with this - I am sure if it had been your son who was murdered in cold blood, you would feel the same. The fact that the family had to suffer the double indignity of racism and slander only goes to show what an incredibly strong and wonderful family they are. To know that their son did not die in vein may be a small comfort to them; things have changed, but full justice has yet to be served. Long may this continue to be 'dragged up'.... Stephen Lawrence R.I.P. Dr. Nick
  • Score: -21

6:37pm Thu 6 Mar 14

mouthalmighty says...

Yes. On the face of it things have changed for the better. Covert is the behaviour I think applies to these instititions. But, everything worth having is worth waiting for.
Yes. On the face of it things have changed for the better. Covert is the behaviour I think applies to these instititions. But, everything worth having is worth waiting for. mouthalmighty
  • Score: -14

11:42pm Thu 6 Mar 14

sarfflondonbird says...

Yet again, another lawrence witch hunt of the police force to be held at taxpayers expense no doubt. If we did away with under cover police work, how would ee ever find tbe truth about potential rscism, activists at work, drug and gang related crime and potential death targets etc and be able to stop it before it becomes a crime? It is only because this family were being carefully watched slong with the culprits who commited the crime against their son, thst they dont like it...tough. the police cant be too careful and need to observe all angles activities if madam requires a result for justice for stephen. IMHO it would not surprise me if this is not a police set up by her and her minions, as the name Stephen Lawrence has not had any so called 'juicey' scandle associated with it for some time. Lest not forget, there are of course msny other racist/gang related murders also need justice served but unfortunately do not get afforded the same year on year media coverage as the Lawtences, which Iis a bit racist Iin itself dont you think?
Yet again, another lawrence witch hunt of the police force to be held at taxpayers expense no doubt. If we did away with under cover police work, how would ee ever find tbe truth about potential rscism, activists at work, drug and gang related crime and potential death targets etc and be able to stop it before it becomes a crime? It is only because this family were being carefully watched slong with the culprits who commited the crime against their son, thst they dont like it...tough. the police cant be too careful and need to observe all angles activities if madam requires a result for justice for stephen. IMHO it would not surprise me if this is not a police set up by her and her minions, as the name Stephen Lawrence has not had any so called 'juicey' scandle associated with it for some time. Lest not forget, there are of course msny other racist/gang related murders also need justice served but unfortunately do not get afforded the same year on year media coverage as the Lawtences, which Iis a bit racist Iin itself dont you think? sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 41

9:49am Fri 7 Mar 14

commenting scoffer says...

...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal
s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!!
...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!! commenting scoffer
  • Score: -11

12:52pm Fri 7 Mar 14

molsey says...

commenting scoffer wrote:
...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal

s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!!
We can but live in hope.
[quote][p][bold]commenting scoffer[/bold] wrote: ...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!![/p][/quote]We can but live in hope. molsey
  • Score: -13

3:21pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

commenting scoffer wrote:
...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal

s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!!
'ello scoffer where ya been boi ?



" journalists/criminal s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!! "


ROFL. You aint on the square then sonny.
[quote][p][bold]commenting scoffer[/bold] wrote: ...the days of 'dodgy 'secret' handshakes' have come back to haunt the corrupt!! leveson was a gud thing - journalists/criminal s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!![/p][/quote]'ello scoffer where ya been boi ? " journalists/criminal s with 'links' to police officers are now finished!! " ROFL. You aint on the square then sonny. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -38

11:01am Wed 12 Mar 14

ความจริง says...

Techvedic wrote:
Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic)
Why ? There have been two people tried, found guilty and convicted of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

Having a re-trial is more wasted tax-payers money.

If you middle classes want to waste your own money fine, but not mine and the rest of the hard working general public.
[quote][p][bold]Techvedic[/bold] wrote: Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic)[/p][/quote]Why ? There have been two people tried, found guilty and convicted of Stephen Lawrence's murder. Having a re-trial is more wasted tax-payers money. If you middle classes want to waste your own money fine, but not mine and the rest of the hard working general public. ความจริง
  • Score: -4

12:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

kentlad says...

Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!!

Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!!
Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!! Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!! kentlad
  • Score: 13

1:06pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

kentlad wrote:
Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!!

Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!!
As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up.
Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things.

Get it.
[quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote: Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!! Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!![/p][/quote]As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up. Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things. Get it. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -22

2:00pm Wed 12 Mar 14

kentlad says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
kentlad wrote:
Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!!

Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!!
As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up.
Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things.

Get it.
haha Gypo.Joe it is you who is thick!!!! You keep telling people not to believe everything you hear in the media.... 'FACT' is I actually know more about this case than you do and lets be fair the Police have done deals with criminals for years you idiot how do you think they catch most of the BIG guys... they pay for information. There will always be favours for a favour similar to the way in which our government and others around the world are run. It’s all about who you know as this story clearly demonstrates. I am not in doubt that the Police involved in the cover were and still are corrupt but, my simple argument is that millions of pound has been spent on this enquiry and its dragged on for twenty plus years don't you think it’s time to let go???
Maybe if the Police gave Tommie Warde daily press and spent a fraction of what the Lawrence case has received on a bigger reward then maybe the so called scum as you like to call the locals would come forward and speak up!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote: Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!! Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!![/p][/quote]As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up. Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things. Get it.[/p][/quote]haha Gypo.Joe it is you who is thick!!!! You keep telling people not to believe everything you hear in the media.... 'FACT' is I actually know more about this case than you do and lets be fair the Police have done deals with criminals for years you idiot how do you think they catch most of the BIG guys... they pay for information. There will always be favours for a favour similar to the way in which our government and others around the world are run. It’s all about who you know as this story clearly demonstrates. I am not in doubt that the Police involved in the cover were and still are corrupt but, my simple argument is that millions of pound has been spent on this enquiry and its dragged on for twenty plus years don't you think it’s time to let go??? Maybe if the Police gave Tommie Warde daily press and spent a fraction of what the Lawrence case has received on a bigger reward then maybe the so called scum as you like to call the locals would come forward and speak up!!!! kentlad
  • Score: 17

3:05pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

kentlad wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
kentlad wrote:
Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!!

Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!!
As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up.
Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things.

Get it.
haha Gypo.Joe it is you who is thick!!!! You keep telling people not to believe everything you hear in the media.... 'FACT' is I actually know more about this case than you do and lets be fair the Police have done deals with criminals for years you idiot how do you think they catch most of the BIG guys... they pay for information. There will always be favours for a favour similar to the way in which our government and others around the world are run. It’s all about who you know as this story clearly demonstrates. I am not in doubt that the Police involved in the cover were and still are corrupt but, my simple argument is that millions of pound has been spent on this enquiry and its dragged on for twenty plus years don't you think it’s time to let go???
Maybe if the Police gave Tommie Warde daily press and spent a fraction of what the Lawrence case has received on a bigger reward then maybe the so called scum as you like to call the locals would come forward and speak up!!!!
Well Kentlad as you know so much about both cases ( "FACT" ) it must all be an open and shut case for you.

Please do fill us all in, and perhaps you could let the Shopper reporters know when you are ready to make an arrest Inspector Clouseau AKA Kentlad.
[quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kentlad[/bold] wrote: Firstly I’m not going to comment too much here as the last thing I want is for the Lawrence’s to come after me for the rest of my life, god forbid I would never sleep at night!!! Just out of curiosity I wondered if the same amount of Police resources and Tax payers money is being spent on finding the murderer of 'Tommie Warde' who was killed back in August 2011.... just wondered after all why is this case any different to the Stephen Lawrence case???? he was also an innocent young lad who was in the wrong place at the wrong time yet his killer is still at large!!![/p][/quote]As you are obviously too thick to work out for yourself Kentlad the huge difference with the case you refer too is there is no ' alleged' police cover up for a start. The TW case is just the local scum keeping their traps shut, no members of the Met on the ganglands payroll covering things up. Knowing who's guilty and having enough evidence to convict are two different things. Get it.[/p][/quote]haha Gypo.Joe it is you who is thick!!!! You keep telling people not to believe everything you hear in the media.... 'FACT' is I actually know more about this case than you do and lets be fair the Police have done deals with criminals for years you idiot how do you think they catch most of the BIG guys... they pay for information. There will always be favours for a favour similar to the way in which our government and others around the world are run. It’s all about who you know as this story clearly demonstrates. I am not in doubt that the Police involved in the cover were and still are corrupt but, my simple argument is that millions of pound has been spent on this enquiry and its dragged on for twenty plus years don't you think it’s time to let go??? Maybe if the Police gave Tommie Warde daily press and spent a fraction of what the Lawrence case has received on a bigger reward then maybe the so called scum as you like to call the locals would come forward and speak up!!!![/p][/quote]Well Kentlad as you know so much about both cases ( "FACT" ) it must all be an open and shut case for you. Please do fill us all in, and perhaps you could let the Shopper reporters know when you are ready to make an arrest Inspector Clouseau AKA Kentlad. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -19

3:10pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ?

Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL
Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ? Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -16

3:27pm Wed 12 Mar 14

kentlad says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ?

Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL
If you were clever then you would know that I couldn’t possibly comment on anything relating to the case for legal reasons... you just keep that little brain of yours stuck up your a@#$ and keep reading what the media write!!!

Gypo.joe the problem with you is you have small man syndrome and feel the need to abuse people constantly... truth is I am more of a man than you and we could also say a lot more mature therefore I am not going to scoop to your level. You can abuse me as much as you want but, you won’t get much of a reply!!!

People on here are sick of your constant rude and disgusting remarks especially towards the opposite sex therefore Why don’t you do us all a favour and cancel your login..... pathetic human being that you are!

Now run along and play with your little action men.... little boy!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ? Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL[/p][/quote]If you were clever then you would know that I couldn’t possibly comment on anything relating to the case for legal reasons... you just keep that little brain of yours stuck up your a@#$ and keep reading what the media write!!! Gypo.joe the problem with you is you have small man syndrome and feel the need to abuse people constantly... truth is I am more of a man than you and we could also say a lot more mature therefore I am not going to scoop to your level. You can abuse me as much as you want but, you won’t get much of a reply!!! People on here are sick of your constant rude and disgusting remarks especially towards the opposite sex therefore Why don’t you do us all a favour and cancel your login..... pathetic human being that you are! Now run along and play with your little action men.... little boy!!!! kentlad
  • Score: 21

3:32pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

" scoop "


FAIL.

Run along "Big John" you clown. Get yaself dahn the pub and impress the bar fly's.
" scoop " FAIL. Run along "Big John" you clown. Get yaself dahn the pub and impress the bar fly's. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -21

3:48pm Wed 12 Mar 14

kentlad says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
" scoop "


FAIL.

Run along "Big John" you clown. Get yaself dahn the pub and impress the bar fly's.
The joys of modern day technology and its auto correction function dont take my word for it.

There you go again calling names... difference is Gypo on many occasions i've told you where i drink or socialise and my nickname. Funny thing is you laugh because you think they call me 'Big John' because i'm fat haha quite the opposite actually!!!!

You obviously know who i am and thats the reason why you havent had the balls to come up to me face to face and just abuse me on NS.

Wowwww what a BIG man you are... NOT!!!!

No doubt you will come out with something else immediately once youve read this comment but, i wont reply Gypo i have much better things to do with my time.

Have a good evening hunting rabbits!
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: " scoop " FAIL. Run along "Big John" you clown. Get yaself dahn the pub and impress the bar fly's.[/p][/quote]The joys of modern day technology and its auto correction function dont take my word for it. There you go again calling names... difference is Gypo on many occasions i've told you where i drink or socialise and my nickname. Funny thing is you laugh because you think they call me 'Big John' because i'm fat haha quite the opposite actually!!!! You obviously know who i am and thats the reason why you havent had the balls to come up to me face to face and just abuse me on NS. Wowwww what a BIG man you are... NOT!!!! No doubt you will come out with something else immediately once youve read this comment but, i wont reply Gypo i have much better things to do with my time. Have a good evening hunting rabbits! kentlad
  • Score: 16

5:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

sarfflondonbird says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ?

Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL
SUCH a moron.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ? Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL[/p][/quote]SUCH a moron. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 21

5:48pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Gypo.Joe says...

sarfflondonbird wrote:
Gypo.Joe wrote:
Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ?

Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL
SUCH a moron.
DO YOU MIND !

Me and 'BIG JOHN' is 'aving a private conversation 'ere.

Take ya big nose and park it somewhere else sarflondonturd if ya don't mind.


THAnk YOU

PS Johnny boi, you have a good evening too sonny. I know you can't help being a muvers **** so I'll cut ya some slack this once.
[quote][p][bold]sarfflondonbird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Oh I forgot should I call you Big John Kentlad ? Oh my aching guts stop it . ROFL[/p][/quote]SUCH a moron.[/p][/quote]DO YOU MIND ! Me and 'BIG JOHN' is 'aving a private conversation 'ere. Take ya big nose and park it somewhere else sarflondonturd if ya don't mind. THAnk YOU PS Johnny boi, you have a good evening too sonny. I know you can't help being a muvers **** so I'll cut ya some slack this once. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -21

10:11pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Dr. Nick says...

ความจร
wrote:
Techvedic wrote:
Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic)
Why ? There have been two people tried, found guilty and convicted of Stephen Lawrence's murder.

Having a re-trial is more wasted tax-payers money.

If you middle classes want to waste your own money fine, but not mine and the rest of the hard working general public.
Yes two convicted so far - but remember there are five accused. Justice can only be seen to be done once all five have been convicted. This is where all the corruption comes into the story...
[quote][p][bold]ความจร ง[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techvedic[/bold] wrote: Investigation into the Stephen Lawrence murder case should be done again to ensure that culprits are nabbed, convicted and punished. (Editor, Techvedic)[/p][/quote]Why ? There have been two people tried, found guilty and convicted of Stephen Lawrence's murder. Having a re-trial is more wasted tax-payers money. If you middle classes want to waste your own money fine, but not mine and the rest of the hard working general public.[/p][/quote]Yes two convicted so far - but remember there are five accused. Justice can only be seen to be done once all five have been convicted. This is where all the corruption comes into the story... Dr. Nick
  • Score: -10

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