UPDATE: Lidl bid to demolish Mottingham's Porcupine pub rejected

The Porcupine pub in Mottingham Road, Mottingham.

The Porcupine pub in Mottingham Road, Mottingham.

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A BID by supermarket chain Lidl to knock down the Porcupine pub in Mottingham has been rejected.

Lidl had hoped to replace the Mottinham Road pub with a supermarket and submitted a planning application to Bromley Council.

The application was discussed and rejected at a council meeting last night.

MP for Bromley and Chislehurst Bob Neill tweeted: "Porcupine application thrown out unanimously. 

"Huge turnout in public gallery, and gd support from local Cllrs.

"Right result for Mottingham!!"

Russell Jackson, chairman of Bromley Council's planning sub committee said: "We have made our position very clear on the site of the Porcupine public house and the application was refused. 

"The council must protect community facilities where appropriate and ensure a wide range of services within town centres. 

"We also had serious concerns about the traffic safety at this site, the risk of overdevelopment in the area and the loss of two important mature trees."

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5:29pm Fri 21 Feb 14

mottinghamresident1 says...

The 'Right result for Mottingham' indeed! The community must now be vigilant for a likely appeal, but hopefully LiDL will now realise it's a lost cause for them here and sell to a real Pub chain. It's about time a proper business owned and ran the Pub!
The 'Right result for Mottingham' indeed! The community must now be vigilant for a likely appeal, but hopefully LiDL will now realise it's a lost cause for them here and sell to a real Pub chain. It's about time a proper business owned and ran the Pub! mottinghamresident1
  • Score: 15

9:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

RightSaidFrank says...

Oh come on, no right minded pub chain would want to put money into this building. It closed because it wasn't making a profit = not enough customers.

Face facts it will never be a pub again.. Hopefully someone will come up with a proposal that would be successful without expecting financial support from the Council or us Community Tax payers.

Any ideas?
Oh come on, no right minded pub chain would want to put money into this building. It closed because it wasn't making a profit = not enough customers. Face facts it will never be a pub again.. Hopefully someone will come up with a proposal that would be successful without expecting financial support from the Council or us Community Tax payers. Any ideas? RightSaidFrank
  • Score: 7

9:09pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Demo it and build flats.

My old Mum see it in her tea leaves.
Demo it and build flats. My old Mum see it in her tea leaves. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -33

11:21am Sat 22 Feb 14

joncook says...

This really winds me up! People who appeal against something just for the sake of it! The pub was a dump, it wasn't making money so it closes, simple. A supermarket want to build there which will bring employment and convenience to the area and people complain and appeal. So what will happen is it will sit there for ages looking like an eyesore and cheapening the area even more.
This really winds me up! People who appeal against something just for the sake of it! The pub was a dump, it wasn't making money so it closes, simple. A supermarket want to build there which will bring employment and convenience to the area and people complain and appeal. So what will happen is it will sit there for ages looking like an eyesore and cheapening the area even more. joncook
  • Score: 12

12:28pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Marty1979 says...

So how many of those in the public gallery actually go there? Sad but it happens all the time, people simply don't go to pubs so they close

What do the residents want, building to be boarded up & derelict - or perhaps squatters?

Or is the problem because it's Lidl? If it was Waitrose would they object?
So how many of those in the public gallery actually go there? Sad but it happens all the time, people simply don't go to pubs so they close What do the residents want, building to be boarded up & derelict - or perhaps squatters? Or is the problem because it's Lidl? If it was Waitrose would they object? Marty1979
  • Score: 6

1:18pm Sat 22 Feb 14

auntyval says...

Quite a lot of people I have spoken to would like to see the building saved, refurbished and used as a 'Harvester' sort of restaurant. We do not have a nice place in the village where we could take family or friends for lunch or dinner. Not everyone likes Chinese or Indian food. This could be a good opportunity to turn The Porcupine around and make it a place where residents and visitors could enjoy a social snack or a meal with a drink. We do not need Lidl, Waitrose or any other supermarket here when we already have the existing shops, and we're only a short distance from Eltham where there is a really good branch of Lidl ready to serve us..
Quite a lot of people I have spoken to would like to see the building saved, refurbished and used as a 'Harvester' sort of restaurant. We do not have a nice place in the village where we could take family or friends for lunch or dinner. Not everyone likes Chinese or Indian food. This could be a good opportunity to turn The Porcupine around and make it a place where residents and visitors could enjoy a social snack or a meal with a drink. We do not need Lidl, Waitrose or any other supermarket here when we already have the existing shops, and we're only a short distance from Eltham where there is a really good branch of Lidl ready to serve us.. auntyval
  • Score: 17

2:16pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Gypo.Joe says...

I have to agree with a couple of the poster above, the few times I ever went in this pub it was as good as empty. The normal half a dozen old bar fly's in dire need of a shave and change of clothes making a pint last for two hours or more, a couple of the local toe rags stuck on a mobile phone sorting out the deal of the day. It closed for a reason, it was not a viable business. You can only polish a turd so much and no matter what it's still a turd in the end.

As it's walking distance to the station my money is on flats.
I have to agree with a couple of the poster above, the few times I ever went in this pub it was as good as empty. The normal half a dozen old bar fly's in dire need of a shave and change of clothes making a pint last for two hours or more, a couple of the local toe rags stuck on a mobile phone sorting out the deal of the day. It closed for a reason, it was not a viable business. You can only polish a turd so much and no matter what it's still a turd in the end. As it's walking distance to the station my money is on flats. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -32

5:59pm Sat 22 Feb 14

sarfflondonbird says...

Save it, turn it into a carvery.
Save it, turn it into a carvery. sarfflondonbird
  • Score: 29

9:06am Sun 23 Feb 14

brassmoonkey says...

Not even Wetherspoon would touch it with a bargepole lol
Not even Wetherspoon would touch it with a bargepole lol brassmoonkey
  • Score: -10

7:33am Mon 24 Feb 14

molsey says...

auntyval wrote:
Quite a lot of people I have spoken to would like to see the building saved, refurbished and used as a 'Harvester' sort of restaurant. We do not have a nice place in the village where we could take family or friends for lunch or dinner. Not everyone likes Chinese or Indian food. This could be a good opportunity to turn The Porcupine around and make it a place where residents and visitors could enjoy a social snack or a meal with a drink. We do not need Lidl, Waitrose or any other supermarket here when we already have the existing shops, and we're only a short distance from Eltham where there is a really good branch of Lidl ready to serve us..
Oh Aunty Val, so naive. Well get 'the people you have spoken to' like all two of them, and open it as a'sort of restaurant'. easy, what you waiting for?
[quote][p][bold]auntyval[/bold] wrote: Quite a lot of people I have spoken to would like to see the building saved, refurbished and used as a 'Harvester' sort of restaurant. We do not have a nice place in the village where we could take family or friends for lunch or dinner. Not everyone likes Chinese or Indian food. This could be a good opportunity to turn The Porcupine around and make it a place where residents and visitors could enjoy a social snack or a meal with a drink. We do not need Lidl, Waitrose or any other supermarket here when we already have the existing shops, and we're only a short distance from Eltham where there is a really good branch of Lidl ready to serve us..[/p][/quote]Oh Aunty Val, so naive. Well get 'the people you have spoken to' like all two of them, and open it as a'sort of restaurant'. easy, what you waiting for? molsey
  • Score: -14

12:36am Sat 8 Mar 14

mottinghamresident1 says...

we shall see. my moneys on a wetherspoon
we shall see. my moneys on a wetherspoon mottinghamresident1
  • Score: 3

5:09pm Sat 8 Mar 14

auntyval says...

mottinghamresident1 wrote:
we shall see. my moneys on a wetherspoon
Here, here. Or a Brewers Fayre, Harvester, etc.
[quote][p][bold]mottinghamresident1[/bold] wrote: we shall see. my moneys on a wetherspoon[/p][/quote]Here, here. Or a Brewers Fayre, Harvester, etc. auntyval
  • Score: 2

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