Poll: Erith man annoyed he needs permission to have four CCTV cameras

Mr Hix outside his Erith home.

Mr Hix outside his Erith home.

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AN ENGINEER from Erith cannot believe he needs permission to have four CCTV cameras at his home.

Michael Hix, 49, has been told by Bexley Council he must pay £172 to apply for planning permission for the cameras or face having them removed if they remain less than 10 metres apart.

The Town and Country Planning Act states cameras at private homes must be this far from each other or permission is required from the local planning authority.

But Mr Hix is refusing to pay for an application for his end-of-terrace home in Pearswood Road and says his security system is only moving with the times.

The father-of-one told News Shopper: "I feel I am being victimised in respect of the rules being too British, is the word I’d use.

"They do not reflect the times and they are still back in the 1980s.

"Nobody likes being filmed but everywhere you go these days you are on camera and it’s purely for your protection and everyone else’s as well.

"The policy needs to be changed to reflect how society is now."

News Shopper:

Two of the offending cameras.

Mr Hix says the cameras cost around £500 with one over his doorway, another trained on his work van and car, a third on the entrance to his driveway and a fourth facing the railway bridge at the end of his road.

He claims youths sometimes congregate there and engage in anti-social behaviour.

He said: "I don’t believe I should have to pay £172 to find out whether I can keep them.

"What difference do they make? It’s not as if they are big obstructions."

A Bexley Council spokeswoman said: "Unfortunately Mr Hix has put up a number of CCTV cameras on his property which do not comply with planning regulations.

"We have discussed the situation with Mr Hix and he has been advised to either remove the CCTV cameras that are within 10 metres of each other or make a planning application to keep them.

"Should he decide to make one his application would be dealt in the usual way."

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1:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

PaulErith says...

Didn't know that rule. Load of rubbish if you ask me. I was literally just thinking of having some cameras installed at my property. With cut backs to the police, it unfortunately does fall to the individual to look after their own property.
Didn't know that rule. Load of rubbish if you ask me. I was literally just thinking of having some cameras installed at my property. With cut backs to the police, it unfortunately does fall to the individual to look after their own property. PaulErith
  • Score: 19

1:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

As long as your cctv isn't facing into someone else's property - I'm not quite sure why anyone objects to them. If someone else's cctv provides me with a little more security/more reason for youths not to congregate outside my house - the problem with them is????
As long as your cctv isn't facing into someone else's property - I'm not quite sure why anyone objects to them. If someone else's cctv provides me with a little more security/more reason for youths not to congregate outside my house - the problem with them is???? flea_in_ear
  • Score: 17

3:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

the wall says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
As long as your cctv isn't facing into someone else's property - I'm not quite sure why anyone objects to them. If someone else's cctv provides me with a little more security/more reason for youths not to congregate outside my house - the problem with them is????
Play Jazz / Classical music and the youths will not hang about.
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: As long as your cctv isn't facing into someone else's property - I'm not quite sure why anyone objects to them. If someone else's cctv provides me with a little more security/more reason for youths not to congregate outside my house - the problem with them is????[/p][/quote]Play Jazz / Classical music and the youths will not hang about. the wall
  • Score: -22

3:29pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Simon bald says...

putting 4 cameras on his house will double its value
putting 4 cameras on his house will double its value Simon bald
  • Score: 3

4:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

The Fozziest of Bears says...

Wait till there is a missing person or an incident nearby, and they will be only too glad to review your footage !

That's the nonsense society we live in nowadays.
Wait till there is a missing person or an incident nearby, and they will be only too glad to review your footage ! That's the nonsense society we live in nowadays. The Fozziest of Bears
  • Score: 15

5:06pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

Balaclava helmets !

Face masks !

Or the old ladys stockings/tights !

The Badgers friends all carry them.

CCTV don't waste ya money. Its only a false sense of security for the insecure individuals.
Balaclava helmets ! Face masks ! Or the old ladys stockings/tights ! The Badgers friends all carry them. CCTV don't waste ya money. Its only a false sense of security for the insecure individuals. Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -26

10:18pm Tue 21 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

Gypo.Joe wrote:
Balaclava helmets !

Face masks !

Or the old ladys stockings/tights !

The Badgers friends all carry them.

CCTV don't waste ya money. Its only a false sense of security for the insecure individuals.
I'm actually rather surprised by the number of people who are still amazed to find that they have been caught on cctv whilst involved in criminal activity. If it helps to catch them afterwards, fine. It's surprising even with masks etc how easy it is for someone to recognise a person they know.

I would suggest that the insecure individuals are those wearing the balaclavas, masks or stockings.

I haven't had a problem with badgers' friends outside my property I have to say.
[quote][p][bold]Gypo.Joe[/bold] wrote: Balaclava helmets ! Face masks ! Or the old ladys stockings/tights ! The Badgers friends all carry them. CCTV don't waste ya money. Its only a false sense of security for the insecure individuals.[/p][/quote]I'm actually rather surprised by the number of people who are still amazed to find that they have been caught on cctv whilst involved in criminal activity. If it helps to catch them afterwards, fine. It's surprising even with masks etc how easy it is for someone to recognise a person they know. I would suggest that the insecure individuals are those wearing the balaclavas, masks or stockings. I haven't had a problem with badgers' friends outside my property I have to say. flea_in_ear
  • Score: 8

12:49pm Wed 22 Jan 14

kentlad says...

One rule for one and one for another as they say...... well you are winning the votes on here Michael hopefully you get to keep the CCTV there are too many pathetic rules in the UK - i think its time they were all reviewed and re-written!
One rule for one and one for another as they say...... well you are winning the votes on here Michael hopefully you get to keep the CCTV there are too many pathetic rules in the UK - i think its time they were all reviewed and re-written! kentlad
  • Score: 7

2:14pm Wed 22 Jan 14

white rabbit9 says...

Only BIG brother can spy on you. Your home is not your home anymore, you and it belong to the government. You are there stock. Why do you think they put numbers on your birth certificate! You are just a number in the machine ans work for as a slave. If you don't believe me then check out this.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=IP3Is9qLz
3c

You are nothing more than a piece of stock on the stock market.
Only BIG brother can spy on you. Your home is not your home anymore, you and it belong to the government. You are there stock. Why do you think they put numbers on your birth certificate! You are just a number in the machine ans work for as a slave. If you don't believe me then check out this. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=IP3Is9qLz 3c You are nothing more than a piece of stock on the stock market. white rabbit9
  • Score: 31

4:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

bexley-is-bonkers says...

If Mr. Hix has broken the rules then so has ex-mayor Ray Sams. Cameras only four or five feet apart and no planning application according to Bexley council.

Hypocrites.

See my blog for more details. (Google the name.)
If Mr. Hix has broken the rules then so has ex-mayor Ray Sams. Cameras only four or five feet apart and no planning application according to Bexley council. Hypocrites. See my blog for more details. (Google the name.) bexley-is-bonkers
  • Score: 7

11:01am Thu 23 Jan 14

blastfilms says...

Hi Michael - we are actually making a documentary about the use of CCTV by individuals who have anti-social neighbours. There seems to be several discrepancies about what is allowed and what isn't, resulting in many not getting CCTV when they need it! If you would be up for talking to me about this please call 0207 424 8030 or email cgillies@blastfilms.
co.uk and I will give you a call back.
Hi Michael - we are actually making a documentary about the use of CCTV by individuals who have anti-social neighbours. There seems to be several discrepancies about what is allowed and what isn't, resulting in many not getting CCTV when they need it! If you would be up for talking to me about this please call 0207 424 8030 or email cgillies@blastfilms. co.uk and I will give you a call back. blastfilms
  • Score: 2

3:31pm Sat 25 Jan 14

mouthalmighty says...

There should be a desperate law for people in end of terrace houses. They are more prone to anti social onto them. My dad put up barbed wire. In the old days some put broken glass cemented into the top of the dwells.
There should be a desperate law for people in end of terrace houses. They are more prone to anti social onto them. My dad put up barbed wire. In the old days some put broken glass cemented into the top of the dwells. mouthalmighty
  • Score: 1

11:12am Mon 27 Jan 14

Gypo.Joe says...

If you need CCTV on your house you must be worried about something. You must owe some toe rag dollar ( bankrupt or dissolved ? ) or perhaps belong to some racist organization and your name appears on a leaked list.

Karma is a b1tch aint it.

ROFLMAO
If you need CCTV on your house you must be worried about something. You must owe some toe rag dollar ( bankrupt or dissolved ? ) or perhaps belong to some racist organization and your name appears on a leaked list. Karma is a b1tch aint it. ROFLMAO Gypo.Joe
  • Score: -24

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