Memorial trees at Queen Mary's Hospital mistakenly chopped down

News Shopper: The trees have been removed from the Queen Mary's Hospital site The trees have been removed from the Queen Mary's Hospital site

A CEREMONIAL tree planted by the former Secretary of State in the grounds of Queen Mary’s Hospital has been chopped down and it is feared other memorial shrubs could have been removed.

Oxleas NHS Foundation Trust confessed to the works after News Shopper received an anonymous letter about the situation.

The trust said it had removed the trees because they were deemed a "high risk" but it is now hoping to preserve a cutting from the felled Turkey Oak which MP Frank Dobson planted 16 years ago.

A spokesman said: "We did not know about any specialist or memorial trees and are sorry that one had to be taken down.

"A small number of trees have been removed as they were identified as a high risk either to property or people or were affected by developments at the site.

"One of these was the Turkey Oak planted by Frank Dobson in 1998 (the Secretary of State for Health at the time).

"Since being made aware of the Turkey Oak's importance we are investigating if a cutting can be taken from the original oak tree, which is still on site.

"We are now investigating possible areas where memorial shrubs and trees may have been planted and can be preserved."

Do you know of memorial trees planted at Queen Mary’s Hospital? Call the newsdesk on call 01689 885 721.

Oxleas are also keen to hear from anyone with knowledge of memorial trees at the site. Email Denise.Webb@oxleas.nhs.uk

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7:20pm Thu 16 Jan 14

wendycherry says...

Wasn't aware of any memorial trees at the hospital; perhaps there was a new, previously undiscovered, species - the 'cereominial' tree, otherwise Heloise Wood may wish to check her spelling of 'ceremonial'...!
Wasn't aware of any memorial trees at the hospital; perhaps there was a new, previously undiscovered, species - the 'cereominial' tree, otherwise Heloise Wood may wish to check her spelling of 'ceremonial'...! wendycherry

8:03pm Thu 16 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site.
Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site. flea_in_ear

9:51pm Thu 16 Jan 14

retired QMHS nurse says...

It's a shame that who ever felled the Son of Turkey Oak tree didn't look at it's base and they would have seen the plaque commemorating the planting of the sapling.
A flowering Cherry Tree was planted in memory of a midwife who work in Kent Women's Wing many years ago. I do hope that developers do not fell this tree.
It's a shame that who ever felled the Son of Turkey Oak tree didn't look at it's base and they would have seen the plaque commemorating the planting of the sapling. A flowering Cherry Tree was planted in memory of a midwife who work in Kent Women's Wing many years ago. I do hope that developers do not fell this tree. retired QMHS nurse

11:49pm Thu 16 Jan 14

reasonable75 says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site.
Quite right "oh dear, we made a mistake and cut down a tree by mistake"

What's going to happen?
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site.[/p][/quote]Quite right "oh dear, we made a mistake and cut down a tree by mistake" What's going to happen? reasonable75

9:55am Fri 17 Jan 14

goldenbroomboy says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site.
Absolutely, it was probably done on purpose in the belief that nobody would notice.

Well done to the whisteblower & to the NS for running this story.
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: Trees are seldom cut down by accident. It is far easier for developers and others who consider them to be a nuisance to remove them and pay a microscopic fine if one is applicable, and claim oh dear they didn't know. I recall a Yew with a TPO being felled during the construction of houses on the Orpington Hospital site.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, it was probably done on purpose in the belief that nobody would notice. Well done to the whisteblower & to the NS for running this story. goldenbroomboy

12:39pm Fri 17 Jan 14

the wall says...

No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick.

So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.
No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick. So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for. the wall

2:09pm Fri 17 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

the wall wrote:
No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick.

So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.
Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick. So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.[/p][/quote]Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for. flea_in_ear

3:46pm Fri 17 Jan 14

the wall says...

flea_in_ear wrote:
the wall wrote:
No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick.

So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.
Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for.
Ok lets ignore the cockroaches running around Woolwich hospital and divert all our attention to an easily replaced tree.
[quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick. So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.[/p][/quote]Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for.[/p][/quote]Ok lets ignore the cockroaches running around Woolwich hospital and divert all our attention to an easily replaced tree. the wall

6:20pm Fri 17 Jan 14

retired QMHS nurse says...

Many trees and bushes were planted in memory of loved ones who had died in QMHS, especially rose bushes were planted in memory of babies who were either born asleep or died shortly afterwards. These trees are irreplaceable especially for the grieving parents and families.
Many trees and bushes were planted in memory of loved ones who had died in QMHS, especially rose bushes were planted in memory of babies who were either born asleep or died shortly afterwards. These trees are irreplaceable especially for the grieving parents and families. retired QMHS nurse

7:47pm Fri 17 Jan 14

flea_in_ear says...

the wall wrote:
flea_in_ear wrote:
the wall wrote:
No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick.

So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.
Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for.
Ok lets ignore the cockroaches running around Woolwich hospital and divert all our attention to an easily replaced tree.
If you give large an organisations an inch and turn a blind eye they will take ten miles. It sets a precedent well beyond trees. Trees take time to mature and grow. They absorb water and assist in reducing flooding and landslips.

There is no reason why the cockroaches cannot be addressed as well.
[quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flea_in_ear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the wall[/bold] wrote: No wounder the NHS is in a state. Forget the bloody tree and concentrate or the sick. So what Frank Dobson threw a bit of dirt on it. This is a man who lived in a council flat whilst on a six figure ministerial salary. He strongly supported the Speaker of the House in his attempts to block exposure of expenses. Hardly a credit........hang on shovelling sh1t is about all he's good for.[/p][/quote]Let us hope that no trees were planted in memory of someone who has died. If you ignore issues such as these, you eventually have no trees. Then there may be other issues you do not believe the NHS should be answerable for.[/p][/quote]Ok lets ignore the cockroaches running around Woolwich hospital and divert all our attention to an easily replaced tree.[/p][/quote]If you give large an organisations an inch and turn a blind eye they will take ten miles. It sets a precedent well beyond trees. Trees take time to mature and grow. They absorb water and assist in reducing flooding and landslips. There is no reason why the cockroaches cannot be addressed as well. flea_in_ear

2:54pm Tue 21 Jan 14

derekhope says...

retired QMHS nurse wrote:
Many trees and bushes were planted in memory of loved ones who had died in QMHS, especially rose bushes were planted in memory of babies who were either born asleep or died shortly afterwards. These trees are irreplaceable especially for the grieving parents and families.
Quite true, and I believe that there was an area to the side of the maternity wing where the ashes of children that died at birth were scattered. What has happened there now, and what will happen as and when demolition takes place.
[quote][p][bold]retired QMHS nurse[/bold] wrote: Many trees and bushes were planted in memory of loved ones who had died in QMHS, especially rose bushes were planted in memory of babies who were either born asleep or died shortly afterwards. These trees are irreplaceable especially for the grieving parents and families.[/p][/quote]Quite true, and I believe that there was an area to the side of the maternity wing where the ashes of children that died at birth were scattered. What has happened there now, and what will happen as and when demolition takes place. derekhope

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